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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFSlkQS31n8

In which I disassemble a cop-puter. Not the loveliest subject but the machine has a few interesting qualities. There's one significant correction I have to add before release, which is that the spring mechanism is clearly meant to press the CPU against the heatsink; very odd!

"Where's episode 6?" I decided to reshoot it but I already had a bunch of folders named that way so it'll stay ep 6 even if I release it later.

In case anyone's uncertain what I mean by Motorola being a bunch of bastards, I will not be elaborating. I don't know what their public history is, but I knew someone who worked there and they told me about some pretty dark stuff they'd heard in re military contracts. Can't remember it, didn't wanna talk about it, just left me with a pretty bitter taste regarding this company. Hope the video's fun anyway.

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xodium

I want to watch it, but man. That title is making me laugh way harder than I should be, I can't stop. Well played.

cathoderaydude

oh lmao i remarked that i was having trouble keeping track of which of my uploads were patron-only and someone proposed that and i couldn't think of a reason why not

Kerne

I've worked on an ambulance since 2003. We've only used mobile computers and laptops in our service since the trucks don't really have trunks. Back in '03 we had incredibly crappy little 7" Windows CE tablets, but since then we've used ruggedized Panasonic, Toshiba and Dell laptops, and even iPads for a time. There's nothing really interesting about ruggedized laptops except that they're heavy and overbuilt yet still break fairly easily.

cathoderaydude

Hah, that's what I've heard, that the Toughbooks aren't nearly as tough as they claim and the ruggedized Latitudes are a joke. Surely someone, somewhere, must make The Real Deal, but I haven't heard of it yet.

Lindon Slaght

Very interesting design. It's crazy to see things like this from a consumer standpoint. Computers are very reliable for most people now, but I wonder how much more reliable they'd be if atleast the PCBs were made to this level of quality. It's clearly possible. So why not? I'm sure people would pay more if one broke in 5 years and the other literally never broke. Also, near the start you say "Motorola is kind of a rancid company, a bunch of bastards who do a bunch of terrible things." I'm curious if you could elaborate on this further. I can't pretend to know a lot about motorola, I've only ever bought walkie talkies from them, but I was under the impression that they were a pretty ok bog standard company.

Keisi

Probably 70-80% of Motorola users, excluding their cell phones, are either military (including police here) or small-time operations using second-hand Motorola systems hacked to bypass licensing, and the rest are public safety like fire and EMS piggybacking on the cop systems. Just based on the market there’s no wonder they’re bastards.

Kerne

Would be nice, but I don't know of one. I haven't used MiTACs much. GRiDs were nice back in the day. But as you well know, companies with these big, plush, exclusive, anticompetitive contracts care even less about quality and innovation than companies who sell to the public.

cathoderaydude

I genuinely can't remember *what* I heard about them specifically, it was about a decade ago, but I knew someone who worked for them who said they were involved in some pretty dark military shit that soured the name for me.

Lindon Slaght

Huh, interesting. I will do my own research then I'm sure there's info about it out there somewhere.

Kerne

Two quick entirely speculative comments. The complete sealing of the unit-while it may be bad for thermals-may contribute to water resistance. The only reason I can think of for marking the Intel I/O chip "secret" might be for a custom Intel Management Engine firmware which could give authorized clients additional controls or management hooks.

cathoderaydude

Oh that's an interesting take, I can never really remember where the ME is from version to version but I believe at this point it would have been in the southbridge, so that would make sense.

Aidan Rayner

My grandad once had a PC with Vista Home Basic. It barely met the requirements with a 3.33GHz Celeron D, 1GB RAM, and *an* hard drive of some sort. It was crap. No Aero features at all, I really don’t get what the point was.

Aidan Rayner

It was an “EI Systems” machine and as far as I remember that was a label made by “The Tech Guys”, a computer repair shop brand that was a part of PC World, a big computer store brand in the UK until Currys consumed them. The brand is called “Knowhow” now. It probably had a 160GB WD drive or something. The motherboard was a Foxconn model IIRC with the world’s loudest CPU cooler on it. It overclocked well though, I got 3.73GHz out of it through a base clock OC before it started having overheating issues lol

Elsie Hupp

All Computers Are Bastards?

Elsie Hupp

Assigned Cop At BIOS?

cathoderaydude

...that one's really good. i might use that in the thumbnail

Adam Demasi

To somewhat solve the Vista Home Basic mystery: The way BASIC was printed large and in Arial on that sticker was extremely weird, because I had a laptop that was stickered for Vista Home Basic, and the BASIC text was much smaller and in the correct Segoe brand font. It seems, or at least at the time seemed, that to use volume licensed Windows, you need hardware with *any* existing Windows license. No existing per-machine license, no VL allowed. Yeah, it’s Microsoft having their cake and eating it too, what do you expect. They ran 7 Enterprise, not Vista, so I guess it doesn’t even need to be licensed for a comparable edition like 7 Professional. Specs were a 1st gen Core i3 with 4GB RAM and 500GB 7200rpm HDD, so a little low-end, but not a slouch by any means. Just the company buying the cheapest license option for an OS they plan to immediately wipe anyway. edit: Just noticed the entire sticker is in Arial with the XP logo, lol. Who knows what happened with that sticker then. edit 2: That’s my photo at 37:44 🙃 I bought one for the Wikipedia photo while researching the 2005 Apple Developer Transition Kit, which for some reason uses this card for its display output!

AstralPhnx

INVADED BY DARK SPIRIT SOBA

BTGDelta

It's still often the case, because Windows Enterprise is not a full version any more, it's just an upgrade license. The only thing that seems to have changed is: the computer has to come with Professional license to be legally safe.

Danny Forche

Wow, those weird connectors on the back look oddly familiar. I got a NEC PC-98 laptop from e-waste (Japanese, obviously) and it has those style of connectors on the back. I never figured out what they did since I can't find a user manual, but there are no DB-25 or DE-9 connectors at all, so I suspect it's just a breakout cable that can be adapted to serial or parallel. Why, though? I don't really know. Been meaning to play with that machine but the floppy drive is broken and there's no other way of getting data onto it. (Also, PC-98 uses a nonstandard partition format so I can't even just plug the drive into my modern PC with an IDE adapter, it shows up as unformatted when I do that) Speaking of Japanese electronics, I sent you an email about a LS-240 drive I can send your way if you're interested.

Sue-Doe Nimm

I now desire usb ports that screw in. I don't have a real need for it, but I want to feel like a pro.

Gumby

Okay, i like that one a lot 🤣