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Video: Niveus, Part 2 (Patreon)

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2024-05-04 00:55:25
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2026-06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjrcB2qMbYU

I'll give this a proper title later, but: at long last, part two of the NiveusMedia saga arrives! And it's not quite the end, either; there will be a third video a bit later, but that one's a surprise. :)

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Niveus Part 2

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Comments

OPAL

we are so back

Elsie Hupp

Fun fact: this computer also doubles as a nice facial moisturizer!

Gumby

you know what ima say, play a game on it!

0xBEEFBABE

btw, at 2:53 there's a caption error, belt drive(n). Don't think it matters but in case you reupload when doing the general release

Bulk Bogan

If that conclusion hints at what the 3rd video is, I'm super hyped lol

Torbjörn Lindgren

Running a 12V on 5V fan - yeah, that's often pushing it too low especially as they age, many fans won't reliably start that low AND if they don't start they'll BURN the motor! 7V is generally considered to be safe for 12V fans in general, 5V not so much. So yeah, probably why one of the fans are dead. Better fan controllers can safely run 12V fans on 5V, it just need to apply a higher voltage for a few seconds to get them started (running is much easier, often possible down to 4V or so). Even better controllers instead monitor the fan and gradually bump voltage any time it's slowing down too much. Around this time my PC had a 5.25" bay fan controller which did the full adaptive thing (on IIRC three independent channels) so I know they could have gotten one from shelf if they knew/thought about it, this was before MB integrated good fan controllers. And yes, at the lowest setting the fans spun up and down due to this, setting 2 (of 10) was actually the quietest. Or just wired the fans between the 5V and 12V rails - a neat way to get 7V for safe fan usage with just standard voltages. These days at mostly PWM fans which behaves differently (and most MB will do the "initial boost" on DC fans).

asecondduck

Great video, and the idea of a tiny AV company making a passively cooled 360 that could play games is just too amazing to pass up. I hope you can figure out a way to get games running on it! I'm at a loss at how myself--discs aren't really an option since the original drive is rotting in a landfill somewhere, and even with a jtag, would it be possible to run homebrew that could launch a game from a USB drive on firmware this old?

KazTastic222

It's quite funny that you got rid of The Edge around the same time as you purchased this Edge.

Xaviette Katzenfrau

My takeaway from this is that the Xbox 360 should've been a passively cooled fifteen pound block of massive aluminum. but they probably couldn't sell that for $300 lol

Ian

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned already, but this company still sells similar products: https://www.atechfabrication.com/ I bought one of their products recently, so they are still in business. This other company figured out how to fix the cooling for the motherboard: https://www.monsterlabo.com/ They put the heatsinks above the motherboard and use the convection currents from the hot heatsinks to cool the motherboard.

Twenty After Four

Fun fact: the original storage server was 100% passively cooled. It even had an elaborate suspension system to keep the hard drive noise down by avoiding coupling the vibrations into the external case. The drives floated on their own aluminum plate which used thermally conductive rubber to cushion the vibrations while still cooling the drives.

qdoggie

Hello mr Ray Dude, loved the video as always. I have a few pedantries about the 360 if you are interested. I assume you already know this but it wasn't explicitly stated in the video (or I missed the annotation). I'm sure someone out there will go "well if you wanted to test a game on the 360, why not just pull the wire out of the drive port and hook up your parts drive?" and the answer is, naturally, that 360 optical drives are paired to the motherboard for antipiracy reasons and without a lot of fuckery, you can't mix and match drives to boards. It might still play DVDs??? On the theme of "a lot of fuckery", you could swap the entire motherboard for a hacked board and run a game off of USB, all without spoiling the sacrad Blades Dash, but that's a lot of work to make a fancy heater. (I would enjoy seeing the fancy heater) Personally, I find 360 DVD drives to be comically loud, so if I was guessing I'd put that down for the reason not to include it rather than heat, although this era of 360 wasn't out of the park for mass failures so maybe trying to avoid heat as much as possible was still important. All speculation. Finally, while I think it is "close enough" there are a lot of (other) big pedants online; the 360 failures were I believe due to the balls/bumps between the die and the package failing, not the package and the motherboard. This was confirmed, as confirmed as these things get, kind of in passing in some xbox retrospective marketing fluff video a year or two back for some annivesary. I think people get fussy over this because it shifts the blame from microsoft to, I guess whoever fabbed the chips, assuming they did the packaging too? It's thermal stress either way, the point still stands. Some people will argue that the joins were so bad that a lower power use would have saved them, I'd argue the 360 used a crazy amount of power and something dumb was bound to happen!

_Pai

The power supply hack is pretty reckless. Even if you're an underdog who has to cut corners here and there, you should never cut corners on safety.

Erik Williams

I second this, swap the board out with another one and run a game on it!

Paul Warren

for my early PS3, I think I remember having to accept a license agreement about xvid and mpeg4 codecs, wonder if the 360 did something similar? I also remember it didn't support mkv containers for h264, only mp4 I think?

Chickenbread

Ho boy. Nothing could've prepared me for the jank that this thing packs o.O

cdigames

You did, but specifically it came bundled with later dashboards. As part of the whole speel for the new experience that they offered.

Chris Jeter

This video was highly informative and wildly entertaining. Bravo!

Twenty After Four

In a slight defense of Niveus, that genuinely might not be a final production unit. It is quite possible or even likely that you got your hands on a prototype unit. I say this because I know many of the beta testers and company insiders were located in the Seattle area. That doesn't really excuse giving dangerous devices to insiders but it's maybe slightly better than selling them to customers.

Evan Grove

So glad we got the follow-up. The first Niveus video was how I discovered the channel, and it's still one of my favorites