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This one was a slog; I find the topic absolutely fascinating, but perhaps as a result I struggled really hard to make it come out right. I shot this episode two months ago, then proceeded to shoot two more littles guy after that (hence why I uploaded episodes 7 and 8 without a 6; this was 6) but it just... stuck in my craw. I did not like the energy of it, so I reshot it a few weeks later. I hated the energy of that one too, so I reshot it again a couple days ago. I hated the energy of that one as well, so I finally reshot it again yesterday and got it right, I think.

I think the video speaks for itself; I hope you find it entertaining, or even possibly educational, but in any case I'm so glad that I have the luxury of being able to reshoot a video when that's what needs to be done, instead of forcing myself to release crap. I am forever thinking about how miserable it must be to be one of those youtubers who has to upload four times a week and doesn't have time to polish anything or do-over mistakes. It was bad enough when I had the day job; this is so, so much better than being on a constant deadline. Thank you all, so much, for making this possible.

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Djof

Thank you for your dedication!

cathoderaydude

ty! i went through a few and picked one that's a good split of cheap and serviceable from the looks of it. this will make things MUCH easier. I still want to get an OPS TV, specifically one of the touch-enabled "digital whiteboard" ones, but I wouldn't have room for it in my office at home anyway.

cathoderaydude

You know what's weird is that I've found these "standalone adapters" from several companies, including one from LG, but they're all discontinued and *nobody* has one. It's such a bummer, but fortunately I've been made aware of the various aliexpress OPS breakout boards and I think that'll solve my problem.

cathoderaydude

oh lol oops, I *shot* ep8, haven't edited it yet. can't even keep track of my own videos!

Kerne

Nice vid... definitely scratches my nerd behind-the-scenes itch. Like the first time I went on the Universal Studios Florida Harry Potter rides I was so busy looking at the ride mechs I missed most of the show. Never even put on the 3D glasses. 😆

Noah

Sweet! Super interested in seeing a video on an obs box with the adapter. I test drove a digital whiteboard for my school and it was pretty trash. It did support ops though.

schtiehve

A 1h and 6 min Little Guys video. That's the perfect length. I actually don't think they should make videos shorter than that. ;)

Matt Falcon

Musing on the little breakout board in the front: looks like it could support an SoC of its own, maybe? An ARM chip maybe? And that unpopulated SMD port header could be HDMI, couldn't it? Put it all together and you could have a really low-power display of some kind there. Possibly a system management interface or another computer-to-help-the-computer that just wasn't necessary. Or could be an ultra-low-budget off-shoot of the same idea, optioning that VGA connector and USB connectors with 0-ohm resistors. Hmm.

Matt Falcon

Ooh, ooh. The Atom! The Atom 230/330 were indeed the *very* first Atom chips, and I had an Intel motherboard equipped with one. Those chips were actually *before* the Atom became an all-in-one chip. That Atom actually did need an external memory controller/interface chip and peripheral interface chip (typically a northbridge/southbridge). The Atom 330 desktop board I had (look up D945GCLF2) actually used an Intel chipset that had a HIGHER TDP (and a larger heat sink, and an actual fan) than the CPU itself. The Atom was just a magnificently stripped-down CPU at insanely low TDP. That Atom actually has two dies because it's literally two Atom 230s welded together on one chip. Each one is a single core with hyperthreading. So you literally see your two cores there. And that means the nVidia Ion is actually the northbridge (memory interface/GPU) - and given what I see there, it looks like the southbridge (storage/USB/Eth/etc controller) as well. Probably solving the impossibly absurd situation Intel got themselves into by having a northbridge that consumes more power than the CPU.

Chas Becht

I've got a few laying around. What's the procedure for mailing you donations?

cathoderaydude

Shoot me an email please! cathoderaydude@gmail.com - include a picture / model number and if it fits my needs I'll let you know where to send it. Thanks!

cathoderaydude

OH RIGHT, SHOOT, I had read about the 330 being a pair of 220s, and I mentioned that in the SECOND take, but that was two months ago and I completely forgot it! Oh well, I'm sure I'll have a chance to mention it in a future episode. Makes sense that the 330 wasn't fully SOCified, explains some things!

Torbjörn Lindgren

You wonder why they didn't use regular XP licenses - MS stopped selling normal XP licenses June 30, 2008 (17 months after Vista launch) which is well before this was built. So LG's choice of OS from MS at the time this was sold was Windows Vista, Windows Server (also switched to Vista), Embedded 2009 (aka Vista Embedded), Windows 7 (!) or... XP Embedded. Guess which of these option will work best on limited hardware - that's the one they went for. But even before the XP "stop sell license" date lots of manufacturer preferred XP Embedded for these kind of systems over regular XP even if they didn't bother customize what was included since it was a lot easier to manage the licenses for than "consumer" versions of Windows for them. Matrix of signage computers - it's done to get higher resolution or because it ends up being cheaper than the matrix splitter. From what I can tell likely both would have been true for this, the Ion probably max out at 2048x1536 which quickly gets fairly low resolution when split and I wouldn't be surprised if a video wall processor at the time cost more than just going with more boxes. To a large extent it probably still cost more than "just add boxes".

cathoderaydude

Ahhhh! Of course, I just thought "XP era machine - why not use XP?" not realizing that it's... not really an XP era machine.

Mat Fordon

I'm probably the only one who loves the asking google theme song.... but I do.

Rodville

That half slim SATA drive did come in a commercial product. I bought a ASUS EeePC that had an 8gb one with Linux on it. I got it for the wife and she wanted XP. So I took it out, removed the standoffs and put a 120gb laptop spinning disk in it (it's what she wanted).

Danny Forche

So this may be a stupid request, but I have a collection of OEM desktop wallpapers I've taken from various PCs - I have nearly every major brand starting with Windows 10 (and now 11), but I didn't start doing it until around 2015. I notice that cool SuperSign wallpaper your "little guy" has, could you upload the image file for me please? It's almost always in C:/Windows/Web, often under a subfolder. Or if there are any other non-standard ones in there too. Thanks!

Sammy B.

I'm glad you've run across BrightSigns finally. I work with them for part of my job. I have some interesting notes about most devices in the BrightSign family. 1. BrightSigns are professional Rokus. Roku actually owns BrightSign and created their first signage player (HD2000). Roku and BrightSign actually share a scripting language called BrightScript. This language is for creating custom plugins. 2. There is an ecosystem of plugins and scripts that can be used when further customizing the user experience outside of the WYSIWYG content editor. These plugins run BrightSign's own scripting language called BrightScript. I write BrightScript plugins for part of my job. Having this separate scripting language is helpful for a few reasons. 1 - It allows for easy access to the hardware devices in the signage player. These can include GPIO, system timers, interrupts. 2 - This allows the scripts to be model-agnostic. 3 - It is hard for the script to crash the player. If a custom script crashes the player, Linux is still running so you can SSH in and check the logs for what broke. 3. The signage players can run a Node JS webserver. Some solutions like Appspace use this approach to render the signage content directly as a full screen webpage on the player. Appspace is a cloud content delivery manager that uses signage players and computers as content endpoints. The webserver on the signage player is responsible for talking to Appspace's servers, grabbing appropriate content for the that location, and rendering the content directly, or presenting the content as channels for users to select. Some of these features aren't built into BrightScript, so having a JavaScript interpreter at your fingertips allows for great customization. I'm really enjoying the Little Guys series! Greetings from Maryland

Nageeb

RaspberryPi based systems were/are also quote common in digital signage. A few companies popped up which leveraged the RPi's small form-factor, and with easy network connectivity to provide centrally managed or on-prem solutions. I used one back in 2015 for a few clients and found it was easy to use and manage.

Chas Becht

I sent an email, and haven't heard back yet. No worries if you're busy, but if the attachments sent it to spam folder purgatory I don't want you to think I flaked out.

J H

wife: "are you really watching a guy on youtube talk about a computer that controls menu signs right now..?" me: "SHHHHHHHH!" true story.

Dante Blando

Adding an ATSC tuner module makes sense in countries where you pay for TV licenses -- the UK and Sweden, for example. We don't have Federal TV channels, so we don't have TV licenses in the US. The sysadmin at my old job learned about this the hard way. He was Swedish, as was most of the company. He got flown out to Tulsa to set up and reconfigure our network at our little branch office. He comes in one day and sets up what looks to us like a TV. It's tied to our new Zoom equipment, so its fate is obvious otherwise. Our boss says, "ah, so let's set it to channel 2 and make sure it works." "You can't do that with this monitor!" the admin exclaimed with pride. "I found a monitor-only screen, which was trickier here for some reason. Now we won't have to pay for the license." I had to tell this man with crazy Linux cred and hipster TV shirts far better than mine, "you know we don't have TV licenses in the US, right?" He did not. His jaw dropped so hard. So did a couple others in the room. Lifetime Tulsans were thinking, "what good will it be when we need StormCenter 8 during a tornado?"