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BondCast: No Time To Die - Special Report (Patreon)

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We review the final film of the Daniel Craig era including the characters, cars, plot and Bond girls. Plus, all the twists and surprises, including the shocking conclusion. Expect strong opinions and debate as we share our first impressions of No Time To Die.

Brought to you by Bond In Motion at the Petersen Auto Museum, the largest official Bond vehicle exhibit in the United States.

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We review the final film of the Daniel Craig era including the characters, cars, plot and Bond girls. We talk about all the twists and surprises, including the shocking conclusion. Expect opinions and debate as we share our first impressions of No Time To Die.

Comments

Nolan Gunnink

Been looking forward to this one!

Eric from Phoenix

Just started listening and couldn’t agree more with Jason’s thoughts. I was so disappointed in this movie. More to come as I listen to rest of show. Completed rest of the show and overall would feel similar to Jason. Movie was too long, I don’t really understand the motive of the bad guy, the action was awesome but I got numb to it after a while and you don’t kill Bond. Just my thoughts after seeing it only once. Here’s the thing, regardless I’m still a huge Bond fan. This movie just was disappointing to me.

Peter Beisser

Listen, the ending was more the producers letting Craig definitively walk away from the franchise. They put the actor above the role. Personally, I enjoyed the entire ride from "Casino" to "NTTD". But I loved hearing the guys having differing views in this episode. To be honest, I'm kind of happy to have a jumping off point (as they say in comic book reading). Seen all the movies countless times. Read all the Fleming novels. Met Sam Mendes and Roger Deakins. Even been to GoldenEye and toured the bedroom where he wrote everything (wearing an RFR shirt of all things). I love 007, but it's time to say goodbye. Almost like how I felt post "Avengers: End Game." No gripes. Just ready to move onward.

Justin Harrell

I agree with Jimmy on this one. I was scared it would say “007 will return” at the end…but when I saw “James Bond will return” I was relieved. Boy did those end credits make you wait. I thought it would never show up.

Kurt Shimala

Jason spot on. I told everyone it was very traditional Bond (1st (1/2) but also very untraditional (2nd 1/2). Not on board with the Bond actor being a producer…too much ego there and also ready for some new writers. Purvis and Wade have some good ones in there, but more misses than hits. As much as I like Skyfall as a movie, didn’t Bond fail his mission since the bad guy got exactly what he wanted? (M’s death). I also still put SPECTRE at the very, very bottom of my Bond movie list. /rantover

Jeremy Hopper
>>71609771

I loved how they made us wait! Longer than ever. After everything. And then those beautiful words: JAMES BOND will return. My theater cheered

Jeremy Hopper

I'm so glad JMac was there to calm Jason down and get him to reconsider, and I say this as a huge Bond fan and someone who normally always agrees with Swank. But his take I couldn't be more opposed. I would say, see it again! I've seen it three times now. It hasn't slowed down or gotten boring yet, but my appreciation has increased. NTTD has connections to the other Craig films for sure, but they weren't as shoehorned in as SPECTRE was. I was confused a bit listening because the criticism of making Blofeld Bond's brother and revenge wasn't even relevant to this movie. In fact, I felt like this movie made SPECTRE way better, rescuing some of the weaker bits and making it matter more. The callbacks all felt earned in this one. And yes, it was more emotional and not a fun go-happy time like Swank referenced, but honestly none of the Craig films have been like that. Casino is hyper emotional, Quantum is pure emotionless revenge. Swank said you wanted to have more fun but Skyfall is terribly dark, personal with the connection to M and Bond’s childhood, with a bad side plot about new age of security. It has very little of the fun. Despite the (bad) retcon of Blofeld doing everything to punish Bond, SPECTRE movie actually has Bond doing alot of fun things, and here in NTTD I think he got to do alot of fun and explore all the Bond tropes on his way out. This movie was in line with the Craig movies that came before, and I think it was actually the best and most earnest and most heartfelt and most fun of all the Craig films. It followed through on all the Craig films promised with perfect execution. On killing him, was it unconventional - absolutely. And unfortunately I had it spoiled for me so I don't know what it's like to have it occur completely out of left field. But let's face it, these movies have never had serious continuity. What has happened in one rarely if ever connects or matters in the next, especially when they bring in a new actor. So why not try killing him? Also, this is the first (maybe second) time only ever where they made a Bond movie knowing for sure the actor would never return. Normally the final movies for the actors are kind of flame outs and duds, but this one was an opportunity to go out on a bang. Also it's the one thing you assume will never happen, so trying it once is surprising, it's risky, and it ups the stakes. Furthermore, while the idea of him being unable to live without his family is a beautiful sentiment and I think that's certainly relevant, I actually think there's more to his decision. Earlier in the film, we saw how the nanobots can pass person to person passively until it reaches its target. We saw this expressed when the Blofeld target went on Madeleine and she passed it to Bond who killed him. Considering this, the ONLY way for Bond to ensure the safety of his family is to let himself be blown up. Even if he escapes and lives in seclusion, eventually he will come in contact with someone who would get infected and it would pass around the population and spread and eventually endanger his daughter. He had to remove himself from the equation, which is why Safin's final gambit is so heartbreaking while also allowing Bond to do the one thing the Craig films have deprived him of - being able to save not only the world, but the women he loves, which he was unable to do with Vesper nor with M. On Mathilde, the bit about mosquitos having friends was an intentional red herring. This movie had death plastered all over it, and the references to OHMSS were meant to make you think maybe Madelein would die. The bit about the mosquitos was to make you think Mathilde was perhaps infected and she was going to die. Also I think they specifically made him have a daughter so that you wouldn't be thinking "oh his son will grow up and be the next James Bond." Speaking of, I was so glad after ALL those credits when the words JAMES BOND will return popped up. And look, the next Bond movie will ignore all this just like when Brosnan took over, and be just a next movie. Yes, Bond is a spy and not a family man, and normally it would never work to do that. But knowing Craig was we knew this was deiniftely his last one, this was the one opportunity we had to try out this version of Bond as a dad. On Madeleine, I think it makes perfect sense she would say to Bond "She’s not yours." She has raised this girl as a single mom, alone and hiding, for 5 years. Bond broke her heart and abandoned her, and literally appeared again a few hours ago. She's protecting herself. She's protecting her daughter. She's not ready emotionally to bring him in right there and start treating him like her dad. I think it's quite realistic. As far as the song goes, it fits so well with that moment where Bond says goodbye and leaves her on the train, and she chases after his image as he fades away. Full of heartbreak, and the soul of this movie, which really is a love story, and honestly way better of a love story than Vesper. I don't know why she gets so much credit as one of the 'best' Bond girls. She was with another man, and she betrayed Bond. This movie has a real tragic and beautiful love story that becomes a family, and the NTTD song just encapsulates that all so well. Also, Lea Seydoux's acting in that opening sequence in the car and on the train was some of the best acting I've ever seen in a Bond film. On Safin, I can see why he may not be your favorite, but I think you're being a bit hard on him. Sometimes Bond villains are just crazy villains. They aren't all super interesting with well-thought out plans and ideas. He was interesting, had his own take, a cool costume, and had a freaking lair on an island! Agree about not wanting multiple origin stories. Agree about this movie being an ending to the entire Craig saga. Disagree that it didn’t have a good ending because I thought the final moment was amazing. "I'm going to tell you a story about a man named Bond, James Bond." How can anyone with kids not get teary-eyed at that. Also it's interesting because in that moment Bond goes from being an action hero to a bit of a myth, where you could read any other Bond movie as just a story Madeleine is telling about him. Disagree that necessarily every actor will have his own saga we may go back to just standalones but this one was definitely all one contained saga and unique, and this movie wrapped it up. I feel like the next Bond will go away from this serious take and go back to a more fun, quippy, light Bond, just for something different. -Jeremy

Eric from Phoenix
>>71581431

That is awesome that you’ve been to Goldeneye. Wow! I only read Dr. No and it’s a great book.

David Fieldsend

Finally got around to listening to this, and I enjoyed hearing Jimmy and Jason's different takes. In terms of memorable action sequences and stunts, one of my favorites was the lab heist with the gravity-defying fall through the elevator shaft. Also Jason, if you're a fan of Lea Seydoux, you should check out 'The French Dispatch' that came out relatively recently because she has a very revealing role in that one.