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Ethan, Olivia, Micah and Moriah celebrate Ethan's birthday in Jamaica, but the trip takes a turn when Micah and Moriah confront Olivia about her issues with Kim; Barry arranges a river trip and Olivia makes a tough decision.

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Summer

The Oklahoma references are my favorite. McGeeHee’s!

Amy Diehl

Ethan is so weird. In the driveway scene he was like a grown ass man standing up to Slenderman, but then goes back to being a child 😩😩 also Olivia was totally wrong at the river. I kept yelling "just go up there and say hi!!!"

Amy Diehl

MORIAH IS THE 👑 QUEEN

ElizaDarlene

I wonder if Mohammed’s mother told him to keep his voice "low and slow" because lots of folks are "scared of Arabs"!

BRITNEY PORTER

There is no way Kim will be able to or want to take care of that house and those kids by herself. Without Lydia there to pick up the slack the responsibility will fall to next oldest girl and this cycle for continue.

Jennifer Riester

Wait - did Matty say Pig Royalty not get renewed???? 😥😥 No with a brain is in charge over there - Family Chantal should never been green lit in the first place 😡

Jamie Katherine

The Mama Plath driving/dead Joshua jokes, the opera, Lydia marrying Barry… *chef’s kiss*

Jennifer Riester

Before I watched I saw so many people commenting about how awful Moriah, Micah, and Ethan were this episode but I didn't see it so I'm glad I'm not alone. I thought the 3 of them handled everything as well as possible and have just found Olivia too much these past few episodes. If she had not left early for the tubing she might have known the plans.

Jessica Cagnolatti

The whole “communal” thing with Olivia could be why she was so triggered by Kim having control on Ethan’s money… I’m not condoning Kim’s behavior but I understand Olivia more!

Courtney Donovan

I think Ethan moving back to Cairo is him leaving Olivia to try and force her to be the one to file for divorce. But if he leaves her to sleep with his cars, she might find a man who’s better suited to her and that could motivate her to file for divorce on grounds of abandonment and move on.

mess_this_blessica

Amber looks like a mini Evan Rachel Wood. Mama Plath stealing Ethan’s identity is a new fucking low.

Jessica Pyper

Sometimes I think we all forget how Ethan and Olivia were forced to date before they got married. In no way was it even close to a normal relationship. Everything was very controlled and orchestrated by both their parents. I think the Plaths are very reserved and withholding of how restrictive and conservative their lives were prior to the show. We only see a tiny sliver. And it’s very surface level. I feel for Olivia. I’m glad mattie and Poodle are able to discuss it with nuance.

Peggy Ann

Have children pay the bills? That’s some Renee and Bella shit in Twilight. In the books Bella talks about how she started balancing the checkbook at age 10 because her mom kept forgetting to pay the bills

Jolene

Mattie: "We had a very... I would say Rastafarian inspired outfits because I thought MC Hammer pants were appropriate." Poodle: "Very Authentic" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mattie: "There wasn't a nomination. I stepped up & did what no one else could." Meanwhile.... Me: 🤔🤔🤔 I wonder if Mattie knows MC Hammer is from Oakland.

Heather D.

I completely agree, and discussing “it with nuance” is the perfect way to put it. I feel for Olivia and all the Plath kids—I am rooting for all of them. There is so much more that we aren’t aware of, like you said. My theory is that Olivia saw lots of f—ed up things happening with the Plaths and the treatment of their children (the credit card being one example, but you know it goes much deeper..) And I wonder if a part of her is surprised at how quickly Micah and Moriah especially seem to forgive their parents and move on. As a viewer, I am surprised! But of course they want their parents’ love and acceptance. Gosh, this was the most compelling season to me… I just want those kids to find their paths to whatever happiness looks like for them (and therapy… keep the therapy coming! 😂)

Jolene

My daughter is an alto and always complains about what she gets to sing.. lol

Tara Fisher

Oh I thought it was only my family had Intellivision. I remember Pitfall and their version of Dungeons and Dragons

Robin black

Poodle not Topanga- move to Sedona with me!

karla

How do I find the Olivia’s family you tube video?

Jill

Olivia seems histrionic or something to me. I don’t think she’s just soooo sensitive and fragile. I think she weaponizes her tears and holds people hostage emotionally. She and Kim repel each other because they’re they same pole of the bipolar magnet of codependency.

Mary Scheske

The credit card story just seals it for me - mamma Plath is after that money grab after pappa Plath didnt bring in the money she wanted. *Cue Cindy lauper in that flying trash can* 🎶 money 🎶 money changes everythingggg 🎶 papa thinks he knows what hes doing 🎶 he dont pull the strings 🎶 its all in the past now, mamma changes everyyythinnnnng 🎶

Cathy SJ

Does anyone else feel like it’s time for the show to be over. Something happens in all these shows when they start to make some money. Authenticity starts to go away and so much feels so forced. That’s how I am feeling with Plathville.

Heather D.

I appreciate reading your point of view, just because I saw things very differently with Olivia. I am biased in a way, since I suffer from PTSD and panic attacks (not childhood related) so it was easy for me to think, “Oh that’s where Olivia is coming from.” But that’s what’s great about the podcasts and comments… being challenged to see things in different ways. I wonder if there is (discarded) footage that would shed light on this matter, because either way, I feel like we are all missing important parts of what happened between Olivia and Kim.

Heather D.

Wait… I found it last night (or part of it.) Let me try to find it again!

Ms-Metal

Elvis Costello - What's So Funny about Peace, Love and Understandin

Anna

More goss… Nathan’s DUI was after Micah’s birthday party

Jeff Nagel

As a city kid from a land-locked province in the Canadian prairies, I feel read by Poodle chastising Mattie for his questions about diving into the salt water and skinning one’s nose on the bottom. 😂😂😂

Edward Lloyd

I’m with Mattie! I’d love to see Micah blowing smoke on Picklefinder.net😍🥵🤤

Elizabeth Reichert

The episode Leaving Eden podcast did about the Plaths, did a deep dice into Olivia’s family and they talked about an interview with her sisters, where the sisters talked about how Olivia feels that she is the one responsible for her family leaving fundamentalism and pulling them out, etc but according to the sisters that isn’t exactly what happened so it makes sense that she feels like she is the more worldly one and needs to guide the Plath kids, etc and almost has that air of superiority and that they should all just follow her lead

Marcy Rodenborn

It sure seems like Micah and Moriah are all “hey you do what you want Olivia but everyone’s invited” then accuse her of drama when she’s not behaving just like them. And Olivia was emotionally preyed upon as a needy 16 year old - it’s a very different toxicity than with Mama Kim’s kids. And Ethan is a terrible husband - he needs a slightly older divorcee whose happy to be in Cairo with a lot of land. Olivia needs to be free with the Scotsman per her Instagram

karla

Thank you @heather d for the link!!