Home
Creators
Search Recent Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register Favorites Keys Review DMs Logout
Community
Telegram ThePornDude
Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Seminar 22: Part 2 (Patreon)

Published:
2021-02-17 05:29:34
Imported:
2026-06
Tags:
haven't archived this post yet. have a subscription? use the importer!

Content

Part 2  continues with a more in-depth discussion about how others can best choose a camera to meet their own needs. Part 2 will then conclude with a discussion about the topic of 'Straight Out Of Camera' or SOOC. Is a photographer being more honest if they don't edit their images and is there any value in claiming an image is straight out of camera.

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/SOYLb7Vj8A4 

Lightroom Classic 2-Hour Editing Masterclass: https://youtu.be/VF_e55Q742k 

Files

Previews only

Seminar 22 Part 2

Seminar 22 Part 2 YouTube

Comments

Higgins Dan

Very timely, Mark, as I have been trying to understand how the a1 compares to my a7r3. So many of the YouTube reviewers are comparing the a1 to cameras from other manufacturers. I'm over that. I shot Canon (1d and 5D models) for years. I made the switch to Sony as I moved from shooting sports to shooting landscape and wanted a smaller, lighter kit. I'm not going to switch again. So I don't care about Canon or Nikon or whatever. But what I DO want to understand is how the a1 compares to my a7r3 for landscape photography. If I move to the a1 it will be largely because I will be returning to shooting soccer action (now for the grandkids rather than the kids) and would also like to get a bit more serious about wildlife and birds - things I never considered with my a7r3. The a1 looks very promising. But landscape photography will continue to be my primary focus and I don't want to give up too much capability in that arena. So I guess my real question is, how do the a7r3 and the a1 compare for landscape photography? I should add that with my a7r3 I do prints as wide or tall as 5' so the 42 megapixels of the a7r3 is certainly adequate. Even with some cropping. So I don't feel the need for the 63 megapixels of the a7r4. For me I believe the 50 megapixels in the a1 would be "enough" of an improvement.

Mark Galer
>>53818033

I only had an opportunity to switch brands twice in my 40-year career as a photographer (once when everything was stolen and second when Sony invited me to be an Ambassador). It always amazes me how many amateurs consider switching because one brand is slightly better at one thing for one year. Most Photographers cannot switch because their biggest investment is in their lenses and not the camera body. The transition from DSLR to mirrorless, and Canon to Sony, was made easier for many photographers only because of the lens adapter market (Metabones, MC11 etc). Switching between Mirrorless systems is not going to be so easy and will hurt photographers financially. When reviewing the A1, I made the point that even if you never buy this camera the technologies in the A1 should give you confidence that the investment you made in E Mount glass was well founded. The A1 and A7RIII will be very very close in terms of IQ for landscape now that Sony have managed to close the Dynamic Range. One stop difference between the A9II and A1 is significant but one-tenth of a stop between the A7RIII and A7RIV is not.

Tyler Tarbet

Great seminar, Mark! Just finished both videos! Hopefully no early retirement for you! ;-) I also got a kick out of your SOOC camera discussion when you said you'd still be stuck at the beach! Too funny!

Ramin

Dear Mark, upon SOOC section and your explanations, and based on colour-science a brand-camera/sensor engineering, could we claim that x-brand is processing a JPG or RAW image better than another camera? Because in some of brands JPG SOOC is more rich and for some cameras RAW +post is providing better result. Please clarify. Thank you

Mark Galer
>>53951213

Yes - that is correct. Each manufacturer will have different ideas about how the Raw file should be processed but each manufacturer offers lots of settings to modify this processing in numerous ways. None of them actually use any science - it is a word coined by Canon to impress the buying public. If they were to employ any science they would need to create a custom profile for each camera rolling off the production line rather than the 'one size fits all' approach for the entire production line. Some companies realise that if you add more clarity and vibrance to a JPEG file it please most, but not all, users.

Jaya

Going thru yr A7iii ebook and finally set my zebra to lower limit 109+! Excited cuz I've been adjusting my backlog clipping all week (christ in vain) hopefully this will help.

HaPeKa

Hi Mark, how do you process your raw files? Imaging Edge or do you have the prerelease of ACR 13.2? I'll get my α1 next week and hope, Adobe is adding the support for α1 very soon ...

Mark Galer
>>54038756

I am a beta tester for Adobe so I am using a prerelease version of Lightroom. Hopefully this will be released soon.

Jeff Goldner

Hi Mark. On this video or maybe Part 1, you made a comment about not scaling monitor text. Unfortunately, my eyes not being so sharp now, I have been using 150% for my 4K, and 125% for my 2.5k monitors. How much does this matter wrt Lightroom zooming to 100%? Can I just use a slightly smaller scale factor for my 1:1 pixel-peeping?

Mark Galer
>>54066482

Turn scaling off and zoom to 100% on a photo - either take a screen grab or just remember the zoom level. Now turn scaling back on and zoom to 50% and compare this zoom level with the previous one. You should now get an idea for the appropriate zoom level in Lightroom when pixel peeping.

HaPeKa

I can confirm this. Lightroom shows 100%view the same now, regardless of the Windows screen scaling.

Cheryl

Hi Mark, this is off topic. It appears my HVL-F60M has died. It doesn't see new batteries. Several months ago my Sony Ring light died and then the front ring of my 90mm fell off. With the ring light and the 90mm lens Sony told me too bad. They could not re-glue the front ring onto the 90mm and I had to wait for a new lens at no small expense. I wanted to write this privately because I don't want to bad mouth Sony. I also have a Pro-Support membership and I've asked them this question: I used to believe that what I purchased for my camera was an investment. Am I crazy? Is a 5 year life expectancy normal for equipment. I know you'll tell me about your older bodies and lenses, but the concept of no repair and just re-buy, is this normal?Are all Sony accessories just an up priced version of the cheap models?

Mark Galer
>>54533644

Sorry to hear you run of bad luck with Sony items. I can only really advise you of my own experiences with Sony products over the last 9 years where I have used the equipment on an almost daily basis. I owned two Sony HVL-F60M flash units and sold them last month in full working order. They never missed a beat during a 7-year life of service. I would expect Sony to have given some thought to the front ring on your 90mm Macro lens if the Sony Ring Light was attached to this lens. If there was no impact damage I would expect Sony to consider repairing the lens even out of warranty. This decision would be regional and I am pretty sure Australia Pro Support services would have done the right thing and looked into the matter before making decision - If in doubt I would expect Sony to trust the customer. If you are not happy with their decision I would be inclined to take it further. I personally have had no item of equipment fail on the job, although I had to return my A7RII for servicing when the rear dials would sometimes not make the required adjustment. My A9 was recalled due to a Multi Interface shoe issue, although I personally experienced no problem. I have also had two lenses recalled because of known issues. All were returned within one week of pickup. My last experience with Sony PRO Support was with my A7RIV this year. I wanted the sensor to be professionally cleaned before selling it to a friend. The Pro Support service found a mark on the IR filter that could not be removed. When they found there was a wait for the part they replaced the camera with brand new one. The pro Support services here in Australia are extremely helpful and efficient. Couriers arrive the same day to my home for pickup and I receive notifications of where my product is and the repair schedule on an almost daily basis until I get it back (usually no longer than 7 days). I hope you have better experiences in the future.

Cheryl

Are you using large flashes now? I only use the flash occasionally, besides the new small flash for the Sony a7c which other flash or flashes do you use or recommend for the a7rIV or a1?

Mark Galer
>>54853492

I don't use large flashes or light stands as I don't work with an assistant. I predominantly use the ambient light but will occasionally use my HVL-F45RM off-camera. I used to use the Sony commander to control this flash but have now switched to using the very small HVL-F28RM on the camera as a commander. This is plenty powerful enough to provide fill light should I ever need it. Even when working events on Sunny day, where I typically put the sun behind the subject, I still rarely feel the need to add fill-flash as the shadows recover really well in post production. My HVL-F45RM can be diffused by a hand-held diffuser if I have someone to hold these two items or will be used inside a collapsible hand-held soft box. This type of approach to flash will prevent me from photographing huge subjects or large family groups but I don't take on this type of work.

Caitlin and Chris Forsyth

Good stuff on SOOC. I've been asked this multiple times. Most of my interactions are with cell phone photographers who want to get more into photography but are worried about learning curve of "photoshop." I normally tell them at "Oh no, cameras are dumb. They want to make everything grey." It gets a laugh 75% of the time, which can start a conversation about middle grey, JPGs are your camera guessing, why RAW processing is so important.

Mark Galer
>>61489716

SOOC is useful to check things like lens performance but there is no more 'honesty' to a SOOC as one that has been Photoshopped in many instances. I used to run a lecture at a University showing images where the 'Photoshopped' image was closer to reality than the SOOC image because of the ways that cameras and certain lenses have a different way of seeing compared to human vision. As higher education students they were simply asked to carefully think about where their own personal lines exist and whether these lines should be crossed to meet a client's expectations. Photographers and Picture editors of fashion, beauty and photojournalism should work within codes of ethics but these lines are often blurry and poor decisions are frequently made. As an Artist, however, we are free to use whatever tools are at our disposal to allow us to achieve the intended communication we are aiming for.