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Premium Access: The Sopranos 6x19 -Group Reaction+Uncut (Patreon)

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"He Really Seems to Be Doing Well" | The Sopranos - 6x19 The Second Coming | Group Reaction

Suraj, Navi, Chris and Pat present their review and reaction to season 6 episode 19 of The Sopranos "The Second Coming." In this episode, Tony (James Gandolfini) deals with AJ (Robert Iler) and his worsening mental health, causing Carmela (Edie Falco) to reflect on the soprano family curse. Meanwhile, Dr. Melfi (Lorraine Bracco) learns of a study on sociopaths that may affect her treatment of Tony. BECOME A Normies Premium or No Fomo MEMBER: Get 6 WEEKS AHEAD on most shows (excluding premier shows), exclusive movies and vote on what we watch: https://www.thenormies.com/ Pick up your Coffee here: "TheNormies" 10% OFF https://www.coincoffee.life/ TokyoTreat: “THENORMIES” to receive $5 off for your first #TokyoTreat box https://team.tokyotreat.com/TheNormies SEND US LETTERS/GIFTS: PO Box 785 Fishers, IN 46038 FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: linktr.ee/the_normies

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Taco

Canonically Chris went to hell…

Jamaal Ellison

Is AJ too woke? Or performative woke basically.....

Armani 🐢

The scene with Tony and Coco might be the most justified beating Tony gave someone in the entire show. Satisfying as hell to watch.

SergeTroy

You guys are giving way too much love to Chris. He beat the shit out of Adriana on a regular basis, strangling her on the day she was finally able to talk to him. His big accomplishment, which showed he “loved her,” was being unable to kill her himself. So instead he farmed that off to Tony and Sil and was just a conspirator to murder her. What a guy. Tony is obviously worse, but that doesn’t make Chris a complicated guy or someone you would ever want in your life.

Jamaal Ellison

It's crazy that AJ ended up in a place like Junior, I swear, and I've seen this show so many times, but only just now did I make the correlation.

SergeTroy

I remember being so pissed A.J. lived, I absolutely hated him more and more as the series went on.

Stan the Man

How many times is she going to yell “WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO TO WITH ANYTHING??” lol Like…you think a kid who just tried to KILL himself talking about how his grandmother who tried to MURDER his father, her son, says things like “it’s all a big nothing” might be relevant?

Stan the Man

The lack of reaction to “you’re at the precipice Tony of an enormous crossroads” was soo disappointing lol. That is a great line. One of Little Carmines great malapropisms. And nothing. I don’t think they reacted to “sacred and propane” either.

Veya

so it's been said in the past before, what separates the sopranos from a lot of future crime dramas, isn't whether tony quits the mafia or not. that was not a huge part of the original premise of the show. it started out with the showrunner wanting to do a show about a mobster with mother issues who went to therapy because david chase himself had those issues. if you go back and watch the pilot episode, it put significantly more emphasis on tony squaring his family issues than having moral issues with the mafia. that particular (and most focused on) vector of change is fundamentally different than what walt from breaking bad and some other anti-heroes goes through. and in relation to some of the above, it is essential to contrast what tony does at the pool with aj to livia's words. whether tony is aware of it or not, it is a deliberate counter to what livia said to aj all those years ago. it's also why the reading of "well tony's just a sociopath" is a bit reductive and the show plays with the perspectives of therapists and what they believe. they don't see moments like what happened at the pool. they don't see tony's dreams. they don't see his most private moments that we've seen where he has displayed some empathy, introspection, or guilt regarding other people and animals. with tony, there is stuff to read into besides what is just being said in therapy and what he says privately. the very central premise of the show involves him having panic attacks and mental illnesses and how that relates to the type of self-deception these people engage in. why are there even panic attacks and the need to engage in rationalization and cognitive dissonance if he doesn't actually feel anything. that's not typically how the term is used in most colloquial settings. the stuff that's said about aj, have basically applied to tony at some point (the show even links them through exact phrases), so if aj isn't devoid of empathy, the reading for tony shouldn't really be he's devoid of empathy. rather what are the main differences in circumstances that lead to different outcomes, whether it's a difference in expression of said emotions or how deeply they feel feel it. it is important to remember past interpersonal interactions and lines that were said by the characters to make some of these connections that fully expresses some of the themes.

Veya

so it's been said in the past before, what separates the sopranos from a lot of future crime dramas, isn't whether tony quits the mafia or not. that was not a huge part of the original premise of the show. it started out with the showrunner wanting to do a show about a mobster with mother issues who went to therapy because david chase himself had those issues. if you go back and watch the pilot episode, it put significantly more emphasis on tony squaring his family issues than having moral issues with the mafia. that particular (and most focused on) vector of change is fundamentally different than what walt from breaking bad and some other anti-heroes goes through. and in relation to some of the above, it is essential to contrast what tony does at the pool with aj to livia's words. whether tony is aware of it or not, it is a deliberate counter to what livia said to aj all those years ago. it's also why the reading of "well tony's just a sociopath" is a bit reductive and the show plays with the perspectives of therapists and what they believe. they don't see moments like what happened at the pool. they don't see tony's dreams. they don't see his most private moments that we've seen where he has displayed some empathy, introspection, or guilt regarding other people and animals. with tony, there is stuff to read into besides what is just being said in therapy and what he says privately. the very central premise of the show involves him having panic attacks and mental illnesses and how that relates to the type of self-deception these people engage in. why are there even panic attacks and the need to engage in rationalization and cognitive dissonance if he doesn't actually feel anything. that's not typically how the term is used in most colloquial settings. the stuff that's said about aj, have basically applied to tony at some point (the show even links them through exact phrases), so if aj isn't devoid of empathy, the reading for tony shouldn't really be he's devoid of empathy. rather what are the main differences in circumstances that lead to different outcomes, whether it's a difference in expression of said emotions or how deeply they feel feel it. it is important to remember past interpersonal interactions and lines that were said by the characters to make some of these connections that fully expresses some of the themes.

Veya

they don't seem to be as tapped into the malapropisms on this show, but on the office, these types of jokes got more laughs. it's funny because bj novak (who was played ryan and was part of the writing staff of that show) has named sopranos as an influence on that part of the office's humor. i think maybe the accents and the genre blending on this show is making it less obvious at times.

SunnydaleClassof99 (edited)

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2026-11-05 00:00 NGL Pretty disappointed Deadwood didn't even make the new show poll. It's in the top echelon of prestige HBO shows you haven't watched.
2026-11-03 05:06 NGL pretty disappointed Deadwood didn't even make the new show poll. It's in the top echelon of prestige HBO shows you haven't watched.

NGL pretty disappointed Deadwood didn't even make the new show poll. It's in the top echelon of prestige HBO shows you haven't watched.

Hank Scorpio

Phil transforming into a house, whatever happened there....

Veya

so it's been said in the past before, what separates the sopranos from a lot of future crime dramas, isn't whether tony quits the mafia or not. that was not a huge part of the original premise of the show. it started out with the showrunner wanting to do a show about a mobster with mother issues who went to therapy because david chase himself had those issues. if you go back and watch the pilot episode, it put significantly more emphasis on tony squaring his family issues than having moral issues with the mafia. that particular (and most focused on) vector of change is fundamentally different than what walt from breaking bad and some other anti-heroes goes through. and in relation to some of the above, it is essential to contrast what tony does at the pool with aj to livia's words. whether tony is aware of it or not, it is a deliberate counter to what livia said to aj all those years ago. it's also why the reading of "well tony's just a sociopath" is a bit reductive and the show plays with the perspectives of therapists and what they believe. they don't see moments like what happened at the pool. they don't see tony's dreams. they don't see his most private moments that we've seen where he has displayed some empathy, introspection, or guilt regarding other people and animals. with tony, there is stuff to read into besides what is just being said in therapy and what he says privately. a large part of the premise of the show involves him having panic attacks and other mental illnesses and how that relates to the type of self-deception that he and other people engage in. why are there even panic attacks and the need to engage in rationalization and cognitive dissonance if he doesn't actually feel anything. that's not typically how the term is used in most colloquial settings. the stuff that's said about aj, have basically applied to tony at some point (the show even links them through exact phrases), so if aj isn't devoid of empathy, the reading for tony shouldn't really be he's devoid of empathy. rather what are the main differences in circumstances that lead to different outcomes, whether it's a difference in expression of said emotions or how deeply they feel it. it is important to remember past interpersonal interactions and lines that were said by the characters to make some of these connections that fully expresses some of the themes.

Hank Scorpio

Carmine Jr is just too damn likeable as a character lol.

Adam Vialpando

He wanted to be the can. He compromised. He became a two story townhouse instead.

Hank Scorpio (edited)

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2026-11-03 12:00 I wanted to be a mansion. I compromised, I became a 2 story house instead.
2026-11-03 08:20 I wanted to be a mansion. I compromised. I became a 2 story house instead.

I wanted to be a mansion. I compromised. I became a 2 story house instead.

Hank Scorpio

The curb stomping was a bit too far. But otherwise, I agree. However, by mafia rules , Tony can't touch him because he's a made guy. The proper procedure for something like this is to have a sit down and discuss a payment as a type of "sorry". If Phil wanted to be an asshole about it and not make his guy pay ( which is probably exactly what was going to happen). Then Tony would have been justified even though it still probably leads to a war.

Stan the Man

I think we’ve seen enough evidence Tony doesn’t give a shit about any “rules” unless it benefits him. Just this episode he ratted to the FBI. Plus they establish messing with family is reason for touching mad men. This is part of the problem when Tony hits Ralphie over Tracee

Stan the Man

Frankly I’m depressed and ashamed. I was really hoping for that too. They have to complete the HBO David trifecta. David Simon created The Wire. David Chase created The Sopranos. David Milch created Deadwood. And look, I’m not saying they are unintelligent, but based on some of the comments from them while watching Soprano’s? I’m fairly confident like half of Deadwood would go over the heads of 2 out of the 4 Normies(I’ll let u guess which 2. Ok. One is clearly Pat). The dialogue is damn near Shakespearean with “fuck” “cock” and “cunt” tossed in. Not to mention you need a passing knowledge of US history & “Manifest Destiny”.

Gaius Frakking Baltar

Happy b-day, Pat! What better way to celebrate than reacting to the Sopranos? The most tragic thing about Christopher's death is that we'll never get Cleaver II; there's little doubt that the sequel to Cleaver would have been a cinema epic to rival Godfather II. By the way, there's sort of a reference to an Angel episode at 7:17. "Slouching Toward Bethlehem" is the title of episode 4x4, and A.J. is reading from the apocalyptic W.B. Yeats poem that the episode title was derived from. #UselessTrivia

Adam Vialpando

The term sociopath is itself kind of an overgeneralization. Over the years there have been examples of sociopaths who have genuine feelings of care for those close to them, they just lack that same level of care and empathy for most other people. I don't think Tony is a full on sociopath. We've seen moments of genuine care and insight from him. To me that just makes him MORE frustrating. Because we KNOW he has the potential for true change. We SEE it. But we also see that things like the study Eli talked about are super relevant too. We HAVE seen Tony use what he learns in therapy in his criminal work. Use it to manipulate people around him.

Hank Scorpio

Technically, what he did wasn't ratting, TECHNICALLY. 1) He didn't put away any of his friends or colleagues. And especially to save his own ass. 2) He brought up a suspicion not a fact, he never made any definitive statements about the individuals, everything was implied.

Shihi

The one bright spot about Tony is that he loves his kids. Every time Tony does something horrible, he never directs it to his kids. He knows AJ isn't built out for the life, even if he's implying to AJ that he'll be the heir accordant. Hell, the same could be said about Meadow's boyfriends. When someone in 'The Life' is dating her he keeps an eye on them. When she had Finn as her boyfriend, he was much more tolerant of him, almost as if he was hoping Finn and Meadow would run away together.

Veya

sure but my point wasn't that tony isn't some of the bad things you've described. it's that based on the discussion, there's a pretty reductive summary of his character that isn't really supported by the show, AND the show is tying him to aj in a number of subtle ways that challenges said summary. so if they're not making the connections, but then making very big distinction such as aj has empathy and tony doesn't, then there is some nuance missing. again, this is worth pointing out since they don't remember much of the early show, when this final season has a lot of tie backs to the first season, some of which are pretty crucial for some of the larger thematic readings. and yes, tony does use therapy like that, but we have also, and even suraj has pointed this out numerous times, seen genuine growth and emotions from him as a result of those sessions. the point isn't that there isn't any truth to some of the negative descriptions about him, more that it's reductive if those are the only defining traits being considered and mentioned.

Veya

it's likely supposed to evoke the image of a kid shouting from a tree house. a lot people seem to miss it.

Veya

when it comes stuff going over their heads, a large part of the issue is they don't really seem to read patreon comments. and no, two comments from sunday rundown doesn't count, especially when half the time they've read repeat comments about the hierarchy of the mob or comments about scheduling or some shorter quip comments. it got to the point that i've stopped regularly watching those and only tuned in once in a while. they would fill a lot of easily fixable gaps in knowledge if they actually browse the comment sections for clarifying comments about past show details, narrative frameworks, or behind the scenes information. i've seen chris repeat certain incorrect things about the show multiple times across seasons which could have been rectified if he had just once come across comments that have repeatedly clarified some things. same with some of the others when it comes to certain details as well.