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Sexy Vampires & Bisexual Activism - Verily Podcasty - Ep 8 (Patreon)

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2024-06-04 13:39:38
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Part 3 of answering patrons' questions! We finally get around to discussing the new Interview with the Vampire series, the state of bisexual activism, what we think about Bottoms, and wondering in too much detail, "what would Twitter be like if J.R.R. Tolkien were still alive?"

We mention this video in the last question:

The NGO-ization of resistance

 

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Abbie F

Have you seen Work In Progress? If you’re looking for chaotic queers and morally complex main characters, I think it provides both! Would love to know your thoughts if you’ve seen it :)

Jules Inkwell (edited)

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2026-09-08 07:00 The podcast format is wonderful. I enjoy listening to you talk about bisexual issues because it’s not just the same stuff over and over. I think messy characters are so much more interesting. Thank you for the book and show recommendations! I’m also a mid 30s gender queer bisexual and I really appreciate your perspective on community.
2024-06-04 17:02

Alex Mannix

I love the Facebook Watch series Strangers staring Zoë Chao. Season 1 is great and season 2 is also great. I don’t even know if Facebook Watch is still a thing so I hope it’s still available somewhere.

Niamh

Haha I KNEW that you guys felt that way about making videos about things you liked! It's interesting bc I listen to many review podcasts and they talk about how their numbers go down and people respond poorly when they DON'T like things. I wonder whether that's just a different audience generally or if some people prefer to listen to praise and watch criticism? Idk, I literally always find your takes interesting, and I also seek out analysis when I don't like something and want help figuring out why, but generally I spend much more time consuming analysis of things I do like made by other people who also generally like it. I don't know, I think the fact that people keep recommending things to you that they think you might like might be an indication that at least some of us are actually yearning for more of that kind of thing from you! Not to pressure or anything, obviously only do what interests you and fair enough if you prefer to enjoy things privately, but I know I loved when you talked about Carmilla, Desiree Akhavan, trans Galadriel, all of your Doctor Who coverage, where even when you're criticizing it's clear that you're a fan, even all your history stuff where you're basically like these people were cool and did cool stuff in this place and time. Like, idk anything about YouTube metrics, but could you be understimating how smart and interesting you both are? I know that you have unique thoughts about the things you like and I for one, would love to hear them.

allykitten87

Glad you enjoyed Bottoms (the movie)!

allykitten87

Comparing the Interview with a Vampire show and movie you could look at which format show/movie worked better for that story and how the characters were portrayed, or how the time it was made affected how things were represented, maybe? But that isn't quite what you guys normally do.

allykitten87

I would watch a video on bisexual activism... But I am specific person very much in target audience. Maybe a podcast?

Jae H

I’d 100% watch a video on why bisexual activism sucks, but then I really enjoyed the trans Doctor Who and queer LOTR episodes, so I’m forced to conclude I am Not Representative of the Wider YouTube Audience

Jae H

Also the last book I read was literally The Buddha of Suburbia, which I was also rereading for the first time in adulthood having read it in my teens, so I was very excited to hear that get a shoutout

Verity Ritchie

Oh no, we haven't watched it but we've heard of it! We will check it out, thanks, Abbie!

Karoliina Ollikainen

I prefer the podcasts - I often listen to these at work, and it’s easier to sneakily listen to a podcast than to sneakily watch a video!

Niamh

Ooh for something with a villain (hopefully), have you watched Hazbin Hotel? It's hailed all over the Internet for its great messy queer rep but I think it's an abominable sex negative, Extremely sex-work negative (with a racist pimp caricature to boot), anti-kink, hypocritical, sensationalist, ultimately puritanical nightmare of a show. And the only people who do criticize it at all seem to be coming from even purer places - like they're like don't show sexual abuse in a fun song, which fair enough, but absolutely no one seems to have a problem with the idea that all sex work IS sexual abuse according to the show, and the only acceptable gays are besties who hold hands sometimes and didn't even commit any "sins" to get into hell.

Muireann McGlynn

Personally I love the podcast formula because it seems more relaxed and conversational! If that means we hear from you more often that's a bonus! But the appeal of Patreon for me is the freedom it gives creators, so ultimately do whatever you enjoy most whether that's podcasts, videos or a mix. Do you read comics much? The Wicked + The Divine is one of my favourite queer pieces of media

Hold my kombucha

Love the idea of NGO funding as a theme. Have you thought of a Collab with Abigail Thorn on that? Sounds pretty philosophy-esque in my humble view. Also Abigail in a video demonstrated that discrimination and bias influence the charities we give to, which is something I have tried to be more conscious of since.

Verity Ritchie

I don't even think Abigail Thorn knows we exist! But you're right, that does sound like a PhilosophyTube video!

Verity Ritchie

I used to be a big comic reader and we both still read some comics. I'll have to check out The Wicked + The Divine, thanks Muireann!

Verity Ritchie

Gosh, I had no idea about all this! I'd heard about the show, but I hadn't heard about the controversies, that is interesting! Thanks Niamh!

Verity Ritchie

Oh you're too kind! I do think it's possible to make anything interesting if done right, some things are just easier to make interesting than others!

Keya

i love your video essays and think the podcast is really cool too! i’ve been obsessively consuming your work and learning new ways to watch the media i consume <3 its a lot i did not think of before in terms of bisexuality esp. re: Sort Of! I understand the desire to see more complex behaviour from the characters but I thinkkkk you both glossed over the fact that it was about a Pakistani-Canadian trans person. And the desi identity instantly demands a different reading of what constitutes a “complex” behaviour. I am a ciswoman + desi and for me, it was a really refreshing show + very heartwarming. Of course, this doesn’t mean that I don’t expect complexity from desi shows but I do feel it’s important to consider that complex behaviour looks different for different cultures.

Verity Ritchie

Fair enough! We didn't watch very much of the show and we didn't read about it, this was just our initial impression, and I'm sure there's stuff we didn't pick up on or read differently. Thanks for your support and the kind words, Keya!

Nat Sto

how did you know i was cooking? also i love the podcasts

Marrim

Just wanted to weigh in and say I also think Sort Of is definitely worth watching! I loved it and wish there was more. Hope the creator gets more work.

Nadi

I really enjoy both videos and podcasts at different moments. I'm embroidering while listening right now.