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Hill to Die On - Apple’s a Bad Company (Patreon)

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Ryan Burge is here to tarnish Apple as anti-American— and he’s brought research. Can Nijay Gupta be convinced to drop his Apple loyalties?

Comments

Gena Erin Copeland

Ryan is correct. My husband is an IT director and he hates Apple. We also have Pixel phones too and love them!

Jay Smorey

Ryan and I could be best friends!

Sarah Moore

Can't wait to listen! Certified Apple hater here, Android 4 lyfe!

Jessica Thomas

Watching on my Google phone, and I'm with you Ryan! I have always been anti-Apple. If all your friends have iPhones, you need new friends! Maybe this is the new way to divide the nation instead of politically?

Jonathan Greene

All computers Mac, all phones Pixel over here.

Joel Kidwell

Happy denizen of Apple World here. 100% all in. Been here for 22 years and I’m not planning on leaving - but I’m totally ready to switch if ever needed.

Erica Leeds

I agree with Ryan's frustrations! I am quite literally the only person in my family and in my friends group that has an Android. I tell everyone I will never switch. I, too, will die on this hill!

Cannon Ingalls

As a 70's, 80's school kid, all the computers in the computer labs (when we started having them) back then were Apple. They used to have big partnerships with the schools. But I think that ended when Steve died.

Steve Sethi

Ryan is me! I've had this conversation with Nijay before, and probably every friend who has dared bring up the Android vs Apple debate. Apple is a behemoth that manipulates people into buying their overpriced stuff. The reason my kids have iPhones is the green bubble in group chats.

William Wood

The choices aren’t good. There’s the evil empire of Google sucking up all our privacy (and our brains if we let them). Chrome is not open source. Then there’s the Redmond monopoly (at least they try really to be). And Ryan makes the case for Apple really well.

Jennifer Blazis

I can buy used apple products that still survive longer than pcs or android for a deep discount. I bought a 5 year old iMac 7 years ago and finally had to upgrade it. I have never had such longevity with a pc. And I love safari and hate chrome. Google drives me insane! I’m with Nijay!

Chris McHorney

I have similar opinions about Amazon. I really try to avoid using any Amazon products. But my husband is the opposite and loves using Amazon.

Lila Mehlhaff

Totally agree, Ryan! Not an Apple fan. I've had a Pixel since the beginning and have had no issues. Loved this conversation :).

Brian Twigg

I work for Apple. Any time people tell me they are going to go to a different company , I highly encourage they do so. You have options and the Apple ecosystem isn’t for you. The Apple vs. whoever thing is just tiring AND it’s oddly deep rooted.

Aaron SirLemming

I used to have much more of an opinion on this, but these days the companies are all putting out pretty homogenized stuff so it's harder to care. However, every time I hear about the green bubble controversy it's just... I can't even fathom why anyone would care. It was dumb of Apple to do it in the first place but it's even dumber that people apparently make fun of other people for it. I don't even understand how this is a thing.

Nicole Linhardt

This was fun! Definitely Team Ryan here!

Firiel Gardner

Hot take: basically all big tech companies partake in unethical business practices and until some smaller, more ethical companies emerge, the best course of action is to buy used/refurbished items. Recently cancelled the few remaining streaming subscriptions I had left and intend to use my local library instead. Working on switching over from Google Chrome to Ecosia. Eventually I'd like to be able to use a dumb phone for most things (and just keep a smart phone on hand for things like concert/train tickets, occasional Google maps needs, etc.). There usually aren't easy/simple/fun solutions to these problems but it's still worth taking baby steps in the right direction.

Kenneth S

These are the reasons that Apple is the worst company? Sorry, I rather think this was the worst Hill to die on.

Colin and Kerry Flemington

I’ll add that Apple is not on your side to make it easy to limit your kids screen intake. Their screen time limits on apps keep “not working”, despite so many trouble shooting methods. But I get it, as a business why would they help you limit them.

Justin V

I agree, Apple stopped innovating quite a few years ago and is more about exploitation at this point. Android's got issues as well but at least there's some interoperability and not quite the insane walled garden of Apple products. Also I can use any browser, any program, and do what I want to with a Android without having to hack it to pieces.

Sidney Davies

I agree. I use an iPhone but I have been deeply annoyed by several of the features you mention. Here’s another. Forcing purchase of upgraded charging cords because Apple changes the connection. But I use my Amazon Fire (not an IPad) it’s much better for me and does not cause migraines and I use a PC!

Joseph Braun

While Chromebooks probably won't be running high end CAD software, you wont find too many Apple computers running it either. Maybe its changed from when i was in college, but engineers exclusively used Windows instead Apple. I think I remember some installation instructions for a student club give the steps for Windows, but basically say "just get a Windows computer" for Apple.

Kenneth S
>>170598272

Now here is a good reason to die on this hill! And not just screen time but the content. There are rumors you can keep kids away from dangerous content or drivel, but I think it takes brilliance to navigate the technology to make that happen.

Eddie Smock

Ryan is for real about to die on this hill. Everyone else is being silly about these. Ryan is living that life. I agree with him. Especially the idea that kids get bullied for not having one. Ridiculous.

Kyle Pellét

Hilarious to defend Google as if they're an honorable company. They gave a million dollars to Trump's inauguration just like the rest of the tech companies.

Mariana

I have to agree that I like my MacBook but I got it as a gift. It doesn't crash. It works smoothly. Better processing... but a lot of things I need don't work on the MacOS 🤷🏻‍♀️ for work and for gaming... I'm an android girl. My Android phone last years. Will never pay money in an iPhone

Amy Tanner

Oh no! It's very sad that Apple people don't know that Google makes it's own phones and that they're actually designed by engineers who don't use Apple computers😂 as are many other products. I guess it shows how good Apple's marketing has been?!!

Luke

To be fair, I used my Apple Beats headphones with an Android no problem... Also you can get a $200 old Macbook... Newegg refreshed or similar.