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Drew Dyck, future Canadian dictator, brings us tales of technological terror: loved ones back from the dead, dire wolves back from extinction, and cultural Christianity back from unpopularity! Skye and Drew muse about Al Mohler’s old opinions on Trump being repeated back to him. Why did his public statements change so much? And who will win the fight between church and youth sports?

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KrisAnne Swartley

Customizing discipleship to the families and their schedules sounds good in one sense, but the gathered community still needs to gather. Little silos of families is not the people of God. I don't think we are going to have much success over coming the youth sports "kingdom" but we need to bring singles and families and all the diversity of the Body together for worship, communion and discipleship. Families by themselves doing worship and discipleship is not Jesus' Body, not the Kingdom of God.

KrisAnne Swartley

One of the main things the young families with kids in lots of the sports miss out on when they miss gathering with the wider community of faith is the wisdom and love of the older generations. I don't have the answers for how to convince people of the value of letting the elderly love them and their children, but it's so important!

Lori Copeland

Like, didn’t we make those movies and didn’t they end really badly?!

David Rogers

I’m hoping I can have a Chihuawolf What could go wrong?

Cannon Ingalls

Regarding 'AI Taxidermy, ' haven't y'all seen Upload on A-Prime? Uploading your consciousness into a VR Program as an afterlife. So many flaws explored.

Mandalorian of Christ

I mean this Silicon Valley thing with getting closer to Jesus, I wouldn't put much faith in those that are former military, straight laced or edge folk. My time in the Army ive seen many soldiers that are very lukewarm or use it for their own basis. I hope this isn't the case but my cynical side comes out

David Rogers

On youth sports vs. church, I preferred the company of the sports families. I wasn’t seeking to discover this week’s shibboleth on a sideline. The music was a lot less stressful, too

Barb Reed

For the digital taxidermy concept (great name!)- JK Rowling was ahead of her time in addressing this pull to immortalize losses loved ones when Harry stumbles on the mirror that shows him his parents- and dumbledor tells him the mirror does not offer us a future- instead it will keep us stuck in the past. I can’t remember the exact quote- but it feels relevant to the convo

Mandalorian of Christ

I've also seen the opposite of the ministry issue and church attending. With all the non seminary trained folks starting YouTube "churches". Majority of folk are getting their "church" fix from YouTube and podcasts and thinking YouTube "service " that's Live is gathering with believers

Chris McHorney

This rarely happens, but I disagree on the youth sports thing. It doesn’t only take their Sundays, but often many of their weeknights. If families have several children, their children might be involved in more than one sport and it takes up their whole life. They’re every evening driving kids to various activities And sports are no longer seasonal. It seems but last all year long. I could understand why it is called an idol. People are not just missing Sunday services, but any small group throughout the week or whatever as you mentioned as an alternative. And are Christians really are mission field?

Christina S Gagnon

I used to listen to Al Mohler's podcast before Trump came on the scene. Unsurprisingly, my respect for Mohler has plummeted dramatically. Thank God for The Holy Post 🙏

Brian Twigg

Competitive youth sports are weird. Your kid isn't THAT good and the likelihood they will go pro is very small. A lot of time, effort and money for little to no outcome. Unless your desired outcome is that your kid grows up to relate everything to sports and use analogies like, "I give 110% and leave it all out on the field" when talking about their job in car sales.

Morgan Feddes Satre

Skye was getting at this, but I think the Sunday sports/worship debate will always be a problem if the primary experience of people's time at church on Sunday is if it's mostly experiential. If I'm not going to be missed at Sunday service because it's a darkened room with multiple services and I don't stay after it's done to fellowship with others, then why would I feel like I had to be there when I could listen to a thoughtful podcast and visit with my Bible study group later in the week? We need to have time together in fellowship with other believers but we don't seem to make it easy to fellowship with other believers in Sunday mornings, at least once churches get bigger and/or need to have multiple services (which is quite common in my area)

Joe

For an interesting take on "digital taxidermy," check out the Black Mirror season 2 episode "Be Right Back."

Mark

One problem that non-profits and volunteer organizations have, at least in our area, is in understanding their value proposition. I'm not talking about the homeless shelter or the food bank, but the homeschool groups, churches, etc. They don't realize that to gain and keep members they need to provide value to those members. One group we were in let anyone participate in the "free" activities, leaving those of us who paid dues feeling rather silly for paying. Churches are the same way, what is the value beyond Sunday morning? Does anyone stop by when you're in the hospital? We can't even get consistent communication from the church we currently attend. No small group to join that we can figure out.

Joy Diaz

About the dead AI: I agree with all your points, but I do wonder if it could have some beneficial, limited use in therapy. Specifically if someone would be able to finally confront their childhood abuser and work to forgiveness. Things like that.

Caleb Wilkerson

Loved the comment on sympathy for those lead astray by the Mohlers versus the Mohlers themselves.

Noah Montgomery

Read the books a few years ago for the first time and I had forgotten this, but that’s a great point!

Bruce Gaylord

That was a barn burner. I 100% agree with your discussion of Al Mohler and Trump. Youth sports are a lot harder now. My kids are a few years younger than you, we were all involved. I spent a lot of time in with the Girls softball program, and we had a rule that nothing could be scheduled on Sundays before 1:00 PM. The only exception were a couple of tournaments. We missed 2 Sundays a year because of sports. It's completely different for my grandkids now. Your thoughts on redoing church are interesting, but would be a tough sell. It might work if you had a start-up with younger people that didn't have a traditional background, but the average guy in the pew has certain expectations. It's not just the pastors. I was at a service where the sermon was in the middle instead of the end and it turned into a major thing. I have no idea how to deal with sports now.

Charity

Really good discussion! I think another point of consideration is that a lot of families that are extremely involved in youth sports are hoping they will lead to a college sports scholarship. Obviously very few kids will actually get those scholarships. But if parents are weighing missing church vs missing a game, that will absolutely weigh into their decisions.

Charity

Having a flexible model of church would help more than just families involved in youth sports! For example, I'm a nurse working nights on a rotating schedule, often including weekends. I frequently CAN'T make Sunday mornings. I can't even commit to attending a Bible study the same night every week. It's made it hard to be involved in church. People who work in retail, restaurants, etc who HAVE TO work Sunday mornings have similar struggles. Having an 8-5 Mon-Fri job with weekends off is not a reality for many people.

Jann Guldseth

I love hearing about a more flexible experience at church. I talked to a pastor who wants to try Thursday night church in the summer. In Minnesota, everyone is gone every weekend at their cabin or lake home or tournaments. I think it’s brilliant to have Thursday night church outside and people leave for the weekend whether it’s for sports or cabin. I think it should all be explored. Can you imagine having chapel for sports families? I think of the model for professional sports teams. What about being the parent that has a small Bible study on the weekend when you’re at a tournament… The possibilities are endless.

Chad De Kay

I think Skye’s phrase “AI taxidermy” is less accurate than AI Witchcraft. The Witch of Endor from Samuel comes to mind.

Ronda Stewart-Wilcox

Al Mohler has experience and practice switching gears. He chose to go the way the SBC was going in 1990s, though before then he was presenting as a "moderate" Southern Baptist. This Al Mohler's modus operandi.

Tricia Russell

First off moderation is key for the health of your family. At the same time, I’m hesitant to make church attendance a rigid, legalistic rule. Church should be a place people genuinely don’t want to miss—a community that’s prioritized whenever possible because of the spiritual/communal benefit, not out of obligation. Maybe speak more to what families make of the weekend trips, or any other activity. And it's not just youth sports that keep people away—business travel and other adult activities do the same. We live in a time where travel is expected part of life Instead of speaking against people for missing services, what if we equipped them to carry their faith into those spaces? Teach them how to be intentional— worship alongside other sports families, start a simple Bible study while on the road, or invite others into spiritual conversations. Trips away from church don't have to mean You are less than a faithful Christian, in fact, they can become opportunities for outreach and connection and strengthening the faith of your family and others.

David B.

Peter Thiel is really kind of horrible, and I'm genuinely surprised (other than his connection to Vance) that this wasn't mentioned.

Hattice

Ai taxidermy what an accurate term. However in describing this services its literally ripped from 2 black mirror episodes which should be a warning in itself. Black mirror is a scifi thriller series on Netflix commonly known as the sort if updated twilight zone. They stole that idea and trying to monetize it. Its a hybrid of two episode season two be right back and season 7 common people. Which i recommend watching.

Julie Ulm

As a young youth pastor I was not a fan of sports. When my own kids reached that age, I realized what a gift it was. When you spend multiple sports seasons with families- you walk through everything with them. Marriage problems, deaths of family members, health concerns, parenting struggles. We had so many opportunities to lean in and walk through life with people who would never come to a church, but would ask lots of questions on the sidelines.