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Protestantism came from “protest”—so how did historic protestant church leaders like Luther and Calvin think about resisting authority ?

The word “Protestant” comes from “protest”—so how did historic Protestant church leaders like Luther and Calvin think about resisting authority figures? What questions were they asking and which questions blindsided them? Kaitlyn and Skye talk about Protestant resistance theory and how it may have been the origin of our idea of individual rights.

War, Peace, and Violence: Four Christian Views by Paul Copin: https://a.co/d/cyji9gF

Just Spirituality: How Faith Practices Fuel Social Action by Mae Elise Cannon: https://a.co/d/5GzZqKB

The Reformation of Rights: Law, Religion, and Human Rights in Early Modern Calvinism by John Witte Jr.: https://a.co/d/h6p5shj

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Russell Loveland

Interesting discussion. Too bad you ran out of time. I would love to hear more of Skye's point of view, especially regarding the American Revolution.

Russell Loveland

I find history fascinating, and as we move closer to the 250th anniversary of the U.S., I hope there will be more discussions regarding the American Revolution. I just finished Rick Atkinson's second book in his trilogy on the American Revolution. I am currently re-watching the TV series TURN: Washington's Spies based on the real characters and events, and in November, Ken Burns will tell the story of this period as well.

Caroline Johnson

Luther goofed up big time backing the princes/lords and advocating for mass violence against the peasants (who he had supported at least somewhat mere weeks earlier). I think it’s a pretty good example of his material situation influencing his implementation of theology (for the worse).

Kevin Stone

I don’t know. I think the discussion about individual rights, social contract, authority of kings was happening well before Luther and Calvin. Magna Carta predates the reformation by a couple hundred years.

Steve Thomas

The book recommendation author is Paul Copan, BTW.

Karin

I was surprised to hear the Anabaptists were so involved with Peasant’s Revolt because I thought they were dedicated to nonviolence from the start… I’d love to hear more about this! I could listen to Kaitlyn teach ALL DAY! Amazing teacher— I’ve never found church history so interesting lol

Diane Fischer

As a Lutheran, I’m sad that Kaitlyn doesn’t like Lutheran theology. Having said that, Luther’s two biggest shames are his pamphlets on the peasant revolt and the Jewish people.

Hans Vought

As a US historian, I think it is a real stretch to argue that the treatment of the British to colonies by King and Parliament was oppressive to the point of revolutionary resistance.

Joel Buursma

I found it helpful to go beyond the usual (for me, at least!) Luther & Calvin quotes to talk about how Protestant thinking developed a bit later.