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Innes lowkey the worst character of the show for drugging Mikkel and dressing him like a dork so he got bullied on his first day at school in a new timeline 😭🤧

Jay Willis

Something I think gets lost is that these characters are....emotionally broken at this point. They are not always being logical or thinking things through, they are making leaps and making connections that may or may not make sense because they NEED it to make sense and they NEED to believe it will work. Jonas in particular. His father's death resulted in him going to an institution for months and was medicated. He has now seen a future in which everyone he knows is dead, particularly the girl he is in love with. Jonas is so emotionally vulnerable that he literally grasps on to every little grasp of hope that people give him. Whether Adam is being honest or not, Adam could tell him anything and Jonas would believe him at this point, so long as Adam is telling him if he follows his instructions he'll save everyone. I think Noah is similar. As indicated in this episode, something happened that took Charlotte away from him. I don't know if younger Noah knows about it or not, but maybe that's why he becomes a zealot. Adam tells them by following his orders they'll unravel the knot and he'll get Charlotte back. Older Noah has now learned something and has realized Adam manipulated him and is now intending to destroy Adam, thinking it will save everyone and fix everything. Coincidentally (ironically?), Noah killed the one person telling him that Adam was manipulating him and that he was just a pawn (Older Claudia).

Jay Willis

costumes and makeup artists were like "dang this kid playing Mikkel grew like six inches. Do we need to adjust his wardrobe?" and showrunners said "Nah, that's funny af."

HectorLeclerc

Ulrich always gets a pass. Always gets "awwww" and "I wish he'd succeed" from people watching. While Hannah constantly gets shit for her behaviour. Not defending her, she's doing some awful things. But Ulrich cheats on his wife and tries to murder a kid with a brick. And people still love him. It's just weird. He's also an awful bully to Regina when young. I find him to be one of the least likeable character on the show and yet everyone seems to love him.

Neendro

The bininging is the end

Rini Hara

He is despicable in some ways. But I also feel sorry for Ulrich. Hannah hasn’t been through quite as much imho

Diegesis

I think hannah kinda does not show the same parental stress over Jonas as Ulrich shows over his children so while they're both horrible for obvious reasons I think that is why Hannah feels worse because she kinda sorta cares about Jonas but kinda not really I mean she literally dips out also filed false allegations when she was young which is not cool for people who are truly being abused or are in danger and she had no real reason to be that evil which to me would be worse than bullying because of her doing that was a chain reaction against Regina (again not that it's right but Hannah really fueled that fire)... she's a psycho pick me, she is 100% the type of person who becomes a murderer if you watch true crime lol and Ulrich is an ass and given the time travel component and who he was with the idea was kinda there in the writing anyway because technically he was right that kid he bricked does later hurt kids soooo.... in a normal world thats horrible in winden majority of us understand the story as it is so he seems to have a different energy. His motivations as a character are completely different than Hannahs motivations.

Jay Craig

‘The bash-bringing-brasher’ got a big laugh out of me thankyou

Eric

Have they talked about how good end of episode songs are yet?

Matt S

The painting is The Fall of The Damned by Rubens. Dude was sick and painting shit like this in the 1500's. There was really nobody who came close to him for technical ability and understanding of lighting until Rembrandt. This is probably his most metal painting.. it's literally all the sinners and damned souls falling down into hell. Usually though when you see a Rubens its fleshy big hipped women with ruddy cheeks or random greek mythology scenes.

Matt S

Using bricked up to mean "armed with a brick" is wild

Dustin

Let me put your guys fears at ease. I can say with 100% certainty that you will get a fully resolved and satisfying ending to the show at the end of season 3. You might have spots along the way where you doubt, but all will be revealed in time, I promise. You guys aren't always as far off as you think on some things and your discussions during and post-episode are always my favorite bits. Strap in because the final 3 episodes of the season are a doozy!

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katarina was a worse bully and ulrich was justified in what he did to helge given that he is literally time traveling and looking to save multiple lives in exchange for one, not operating under normal circumstances. hannah is worse since everything she does stems back to just selfishness.

HectorLeclerc

Justified from our POV. But at the time he did it, he actually had zero evidence that Helge did anything. It's easy to excuse him as viewers knowing it all but he just tried to kill a kid on a hunch. Without any kind of proof.