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SOLO LEVELING EPISODE 8 REACTION! (Patreon)

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SORRY FOR THE WAIT! VIKINGS AND PROBABLY ALICE IN BORDERLAND SEASON 3 COMING TOMORROW!

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Star

lucky its sung jinwoo and the armour guy is yoo jinho. sounds similiar but are pronounced differently. Quite different names from your regular anime since its based on a korean manga called manhwa

Liberationpocket

It wasn't really explained well in the anime, but in the novel, the girl hunter that was with Jinwoo collapsed in the double dungeon because all of her energy was zapped from using healing magic. She gave everything she had into fixing Jinwoo's leg. But yeah the anime didn't portray that too well and made her look like she couldn't move out of fear

Mike G. M.

“I love all genres as long as its good” You know; its exactly that reason why I’m hoping in the not-too-distant future I can convince you or your mods to have a poll thats nothing but Shojo/Josei anime for you to to watch through, just so I can see your reactions to an anime that is almost the exact opposite of all the shows you’ve seen before lol

AccordingToLucky

Nah, i got that she was tired. Her timing was just so bad that it almost cost him his life is my point lol

Raffalius

Sub explained it better than dub as well

g27

Everyone who got powers after the portals appeared had an awakening, but Jinwoo had a reawakening. The guy who lost an arm didn’t have a reawakening, just a first awakening. Although this purple haired Megumi character said that some hunters have had reawakenings in the past, I doubt they were able to level up constantly or have a video game system like Jinwoo, because he just said that they’d reawaken into a higher rank and his conscious was to assess his rank quickly after he woke up. And he said they’d reawaken from a near death experience, nothing about a “God” statue. Plus no one talked about having the game system like Jinwoo. And I think purple Megumi was looking at Jinwoo with suspicion because they already marked his case as special and put it over for further evaluation. They still want answers. I think Jeju island is the island we saw in the first episode? Idk Plus, Jinwoo didn’t have the final say, he just had the final vote.

g27

29:15 Purple Megumi told them “you know what happens if you act while the chains are off” and they laughed with a sinister smile. That doesn’t look like people who deserve a reduced jail sentencing so what are they on about LMAO. Are they trying their best to release them free back into society like this as soon as possible? They were talking shit every second they opened their mouths and they’re still doing them a favor trying to free them asap? TF?😂

Mark

What u said at the end about people flexing and shit was so real. Some people are strange man lmaoo. I’m glad you don’t listen or feel like u have to react a certain way to please these freaks😭

Silverskar (Movies are FUN)

Great reaction Lucky! Glad you enjoy solo leveling, i was sure you’d like it. It didn’t take the anime of the year title for nothing ^_^

g27

What’s the story about?

Aziz bhs

Bruh that overseer is literally megumi lmao

g27

The B rank healer acts surprised that Jinwoo’s leg is back like she didn’t see him running for exercise in the hospital lol.

AccordingToLucky

She was surprised he was taller and fuckable now, the old dude was surprised about the leg ahsha

AccordingToLucky

They really are some freaks! Dont understand why that behavior pumps them up so much 😭

g27

Fair point lol

g27

On your last point, isn’t almost all anime action packed anyways? Demon Slayer, Naruto, JJK, AOT, MHA, Black Clover, etc? So how are they hating on you they should be hating on 99% of the anime community lol.

Mike G. M.

Depends on the series. Shojo/Josei are just the terms for series that are primarily targeted towards a female audience, as opposed to the Shonen series that Luckys watched so far that are primarily targeted towards teenage boys.

g27

Better call him Toji cuz he looks exactly like him lmao.

g27

Oh so that explains why every anime was around the topic of a fatherless boy trying to grow up the strongest. I was wondering for a moment that every anime felt the same. It was because the popular ones were all from this genre. So these are all called Shonen that target teenage boys, so there is another genre of anime that’s targeted for adult men? And what’s a show targeted for a female audience would be like? A girl trying to grow up the strongest? Wasn’t Frieren about a girl protagonist wanting to be the strongest or something? I’m guessing Frieren is a Shojo/Josei genre? I’m guessing Shojo/Josei genre isn’t popular, is it because it’s not good? Because I’ve never heard of them, everyone talks about the Shonen anime even in Japan, didn’t they make theme parks around Naruto and built statues of One Piece and Detective Conan?

Mike G. M.

There's 4 main "Demographics" for manga and anime Shonen (Teenager Boys), Shojo (Teenage Girls), Seinen (Adult Men), Josei (Adult Women). [Okay, *technically* there's 5 demographics, but the 5th one is Kodomo, and that's about shows that are aimed at children younger then like... 7. So it doesn't really count here XD] To *MASSIVELY* simplify the difference between the demographics; Shonen is action oriented, Shojo is romance oriented, Seinen is philosophically oriented, Josei is emotionally oriented. Freiren is actually *technically* Shonen, since it's marketed and published in a Shonen magazine, but most people consider it more Seinen then typical Shonen. But that's just also how things work; stories aren't forced to be bound to those rules after all, those descriptions are just approximations for "more then likely, this is what you're going to get out of a series marketed to this group" As for why Shojo and Josei aren't as popular as Shonen? This is just my opinion so take everything with a grain of salt, but I think it's a combination of marketability and crossover appeal. Basically; consider it the same way you would think about Western Comics. The stuff for boys, Superheroes, action films, etc. not only can you very easily make merch for them. which leads to people talking about them and advertising for them etc., but it's also easier to imagine a girl being into Batman than a boy being into say, Barbie. It's not necessarily about quality, but more the marketability of a series, and with very few exceptions, a lot of the time, the media targeted towards boys is the most marketable. ((That said, there's probably at least 1 Shojo that you would've heard of: Sailor Moon. That series is the epitome of the Shojo genre, but it's definitely not one I'd be getting Lucky to watch for a multitude of reasons XD ))

AccordingToLucky

Trust me. If they consider an anime to not have substance, RIP! They will act superior, like u r dumb for enjoying something with no plot twists bla bla, no depth. People are tripping

g27

Tell them watching anime doesn’t make you smart, do something in the real world if you want to show your smartness.

AccordingToLucky

Trust me bro, no matter how good of a point u throw at them, they will just answer with - Cope, or ofc u would say that, u watch Solo leveling. Its like talking to a wall, its insane

g27

The best you can do is disagree with them without explaining. Just keep objecting without explaining yourself. The moment you try to discuss with flippant fools it’s like throwing fuel into fire.

AccordingToLucky

Exactly! I just trigger them on purpose lol And they hate me cus i dont like CSM but like Solo Levelin and Boruto. Cuz they consider CSM to be deep and complex lol

g27

What? Isn’t that contradicting of them? LMAOOO Isn’t CSM extremely action packed like hell? Neither did it seem deep with meaningful substance that I can learn from, the story is aimless and built around sexual material. That’s not a masterpiece, that’s barely a story, that’s just messy slop. I guess their argument would be “but real people like this exist, they really really do🥺”. So? Story bad no matter how much realism there is to it. I did NOT expect you to say that they were liking CSM and hating on what you watch, I thought it would be something like tactical complexity like Death Note, or moral complexity like AOT, or world rules/power rules complexity like JJK, but CSM? LMAO That’s hilarious.

AccordingToLucky

YES! RIGHT?? INSANE! I CALL IT, GOONER ANIME. AND THEY MOCK ME FOR IT AND TELL ME IM DUMB AND I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND IT CUZ I WATCH SOLO LEVELING??? Im always like??? DID WE WATCH THE SAME SHOW??? People are insane. And they legit think its a deep story that not anyone can understand for some reason 😭

g27

Just keep in mind that these specific types of people talk about fake stuff (anime) with such importance because they have no real achievements in the real world. Don’t get angry when you know they’re miserable. You’re already good. They’re just pulling you down to a miserable state.

g27

“And they legit think it’s a deep story that not anyone can understand for some reason” Even if you did understand, what happens now? Nothing. Because it’s useless knowledge. So what good does it make, and what’s impressive about it too? You can’t put it into work. So they’re stupid not smart for having this basis. Basing smartness on this? Like I said in the beginning, watching anime doesn’t make them smart, they should do something in the real world to show their smartness. Like seriously what happens if you did understand then? Lol

g27

So Frieren is Shonen because it’s action packed with philosophical themes? So the idea isn’t about who’s the main character, it’s about the genre of the story. Got it. What’s Shojo and Josei supposed to be like? Romance and emotional oriented? I know that for example there’s romance with Naruto and Hinata, or Eren and Mikasa, but that’s within the story. So Shojo means the WHOLE STORY is just the romance part? How does that work lol? Like each episode is just about the romance part? I can’t put together how a story is made just around that. It’d finish in one episode lol. And what would happen in the end anyways? Like nothing they’re just in a relationship or something? Sooo… what’s going on? That’s it? Like what’s the story even about anyways? LOL It’s interesting that you pointed out that girls can like boy shows, but boys don’t commonly like girls shows. What do you think is the reason? Is it that the story itself is not good? I’m sure if AOT had a female protagonist it’d be equally popular if that’s integrated correctly. You mention boy shows are easily marketable, I agree. But Disney’s princesses also have an extremely high marketability. Do you think it’s because it’s good? Half of Disney Land is about Disney’s princesses lol, the other half is mostly Mickey Mouse. Maybe it’s changed now, I’ve only went there during the early 2000s as a kid. Half the world are women. Strange how female oriented shows are extremely underpresented and unpopular compared to the male shows. But I do remember female shows like Kim Possible, Powerpuff girls, Lilo and Stitch, The Legend of Korra, Dora, Pippi Longstocking, and Disney’s princesses. The stories are good and popular with both genders, but it’s not the same with Shojo and Josei, strange🤔. Also I’ve never heard of Sailor Moon, looked it up and never seen it before. Maybe it’s because the shows that aired to me were different than the shows that were airing to you that time?

AccordingToLucky

I agree, but they are delusional and ignorant lol So i just troll them lol But its insane how many people act like this 🤣

g27

31:45 I’ve heard a LOT of praise for Vinland Saga. I know you’ve reacted to that ages ago, but I don’t know when I’ll watch it. Maybe sometime in the far future lol.

Er.

His name is not purple Megumi

g27

Let me guess, chin-hoe you?

g27

chin-ho yoo******* autocorrect felt intentionally malicious, did not mean to say that. But that was a good one🤣

Er.

My bad sorry

Mike G. M.

Its close to genre, and there is a lot of crossover, but its really more just ‘target audience’. Who is the publisher/author hoping to attract as readers? Its why there are shojos that are action focused and shonen that have very little action. Unironically one of the most populer Shonen mangas that came out in the 2010s is literally just about trying to become a mangaka lol. (And while I won’t spoil the entire plot since there is a decent chance Lucky is going to watch it relatively soon: the basic idea behind the plot of Freiren is “What happens to the heroes after they succeed in saving the world?”) You use Naruto and Hinata as examples, but basically consider the difference between a romance film and an action film where the protagonist has a love interest. Its that same sort of thing: its just a change in perspective in what the author focuses on. If we get Lucky to watch a romance anime you’ll see how it works, though i will admit, for the most part pure-romance anime’s tend to be a lot shorter the their action/romance counterparts and also still shorter then a lot of the shonen stuff (which is also kinda leads back to what I was saying last time about why marketability makes the shonen stuff so big: Shonen series usually just go for *much* longer on average compared to series in the other demographics, so they work a lot better for iconography and branding purposes because they keep going for so long. Luffy has been one of the faces of Shonen for 30 years: the closest things that Shojo have had in comparison stopped being made in the early 2000s.) Theres a whole thing about like Gender stereotypes and expectations that can go into explaining why girls can like “boy” things but not the other way around; but I am not the person to get unpack something like that. The example that i can use as a case study though is the whole “Brony” phenomenon. If you haven’t heard of this one, when the show “My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic” cane out in the 2010, despite the fact that it was marketed towards younger girls, there were a lot of grown men, (initially fathers of daughters, but it eventually spread) that started unironically watching the show simply because it was a good show. Good characters, good writing, good humour… and these men became the internets punching bags because “What do you mean you like a show? The logo is pink!! Thats not manly! Are you just gay? Do you want to be a little girl?!?” The backlash had nothing to do with the writing in the episodes, i.e, the thing that all these men said is what they liked about it; it all just boiled down too “that show looks girly, real men don’t watch things like that!” Like i said: theres a whole social-gender context… thing that I’m not even gonna think touching here, but basically if a woman likes things for men shes “cool” and if a man likes things for women he’s “pathetic”. (Though just out of the examples you gave: The Disney Princesses are the only ones that are specifically “for girls”. Just having a female lead like Kim Possible is not quite the same as being aimed at girls. I never said that there was no popular things that are aimed at girls or women, but those are in the minority of things that get popular) I definitely am a little surprised you haven’t at least heard of Sailor Moon though. It was right alongside DragonBall as being one of the first anime/manga that got popular in the west, proving that there was a global audience for these things. (Honestly, i think I might’ve heard about Sailor Moon even before I heard of DragonBall) It is possible it might’ve just been a little off time for you, but I will say, if youve ever heard the term “Magical Girl” anime, that is the subcategory of Shojo that Sailor Moon pretty much pioneered single-handedly. (Though funny enough the most successful ‘Magical Girl’ anime since then is a Seinen anime. Like I said, lot of different genres even under these demographics 😊)

DAVID FERNANDEZ

Lucky should react to Kaichou Wa Maid-sama 😭 HAHA that would be a blast! 🤣

Mike G. M.

That probably wouldn’t be one of the four options I’d place on the poll if I was in charge, but having Lucky react to a rom-com would be a blast for sure XD

g27

It’s interesting what you pointed out in the first paragraph. There’s a lot of crossover but it’s more about target audience, as in who’s the author hoping to attract as readers. What makes a story for girls or boys? You mentioned it wasn’t the female protagonist since Frieren is Shonen supposedly, and Kim Possible is in that same genre (whatever the American counterpart of a Shonen would be). So if it isn’t the cast, then it’s the story? If the story is action packed then it’s targeted for boys, and if the story is romance focused, it’s targeted for girls? Except that’s not necessarily the case since there’s no romance with My Little Pony is there? LOL. How is a female audience targeted (not counting children)? I know what I like personally, stuff like AOT lol. But what would females be wanting to watch? Because I already see a lot of females watching AOT too like it’s not a “boys” show lol. Thats something I’m thinking about🤔. You know there’s also a genderless type of show like Young Justice where there is no main character or main villain, since it tries to encompass the whole DC universe, the whole cast is full of males and females with equal integration in the story with no primary focus on one. I’ve never heard of the Brony phenomenon, but hasn’t everyone watched Disney’s princesses? And hadn’t a lot of men watched the latest Barbie live action movie? I personally haven’t but I know so many people did. And even when men go to Disney Land, they still act fondly over the nostalgia of Disney’s princesses, but not with My Little Pony? lmao. And My Little Pony reminded me of the Care Bears when it released lol. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a romance show or movie. What’s interesting about it anyways? I’ve also never heard of “Magical Girl” anime too sorry😅. I think I discovered the term “anime” like 10 years ago, and was absolutely disgusted😅.

Mike G. M.

A show being "for boys" show and a "for girls" show is really is a difficult thing to describe, because there isn't one exact answer. There's certainly trends, and visibly noticeable ones at that, but you can't ever say with 100% certainty "Oh; this series involves fighting: that makes it for boys". It's a whole web composed mostly of expectations, trends and especially marketing, though at it's core, the idea is mostly "What do I want to give most of the focus of the show to? What is the thing that I, as the creator, want my audience to spend the most time thinking about?" I said that Shojo is mostly focused on romance, and that is absolutely true. But on a broader level it's more accurate to say that media targeted towards girls are more about emotional connections and conflict, whereas for boys are more about physical connections and conflict. To go with the examples you used; Young Justice and Kim Possible, while it has multiple genders and even romance, generally has the primary conflict be solved through hand-to-hand fight or some sort of physically combat. My Little Pony in comparison, despite having magical action sequences, tends to focus more on the emotional conflicts: things like letting pride/jealousy effect your friendships, or dealing with personal fears or insecurities. The thing about demographics though is that it's also primarily looked at from a marketing standpoint: If you have a subsection of a group that you are trying to sell to; it makes it easier to specifically target then trying to get everyone (Kinda like the whole "targeted ads" thing that Social Media does now except less completely individualised to the person). And while a lot of this does stem from observable trends that "this group tends to resonante more strongly with these topics then these other groups", the end result of his is that there is a level of feedback loop involved for sure. Like "We expect this thing to be something girls like, so we market it towards girls, and if they like it it makes them more likely to seek this out in the future". I will say though; you are right in the sense that the Western cartoons are a little bit more "General Audience" then Japan is with the 4 demographics. Theres a bunch of societal stuff that goes into why that is, but basically Japan tends to be a little more traditional about those things, whereas Western Animation starting with Disney in the 30's was always designed to be classically universal to all, which is why they adapted so many damn fairy-tales and classical stories at the beginning; they were hoping for men and women, young and old, to watch their films. (Side note though; you say that men go to Disneyland with nostalgia over the princesses? I would like to make a clarification that there is a difference between "the Disney movies that feature princesses" and "the Disney Princess brand". It might seem similar on the outset, but they are totally different. Cinderella from the movie 'Cinderella' is not the same as Cinderella from the Disney Princesses. The first is a girl that is treated like a slave by her adopted family and tries her best to remain optimistic until she's finally given her moment, and the latter is a pretty smiling woman in a bright-blue dress and... basically that's it. Most men that you're talking about are not nostalgic for the second one lol) Out of curiosity by the way... do you mind if I ask how old you are? I ask mostly because you said My Little Pony reminded you of Care Bears, and I'm wondering if you're associating them with how they originally were in the 1980's when both franchises first launched? Cause from what I can tell, Care Bears has pretty much stayed the same since it's inception, but My Little Pony has... not. XD

g27

It’s easy to say what makes a boys show or a girls show when regarding kids. To be honest, all the girl cartoons that we were talking about are Kodomo equivalent genre. My little pony is for children so it’s not a Shojo, 99% of the characters are female I believe so there’s no romance lol. I can’t think of any cartoon that’s supposed to be aimed at 19 to like 22 year old girls, because all the cartoons I gave as examples are for kids, so do these even exist? Lol maybe only in the Japanese productions, not western. ATLA has hand to hand conflict but also so many emotional conflicts too, which I can say is really the main focus, because the whole show was about Aang having an emotional conflict on how to be the Avatar and whether he should kill or not, all other characters had the same type of conflict too, it’s definitely not a boys show, it’s just like you said, western cartoons are aimed at a general audience whatever the age or gender. So a marketing standpoint for ATLA isn’t targeted for a certain demographic, it succeeded in marketing and sold merchandise despite the broad consideration. Something Japan couldn’t do so it focused on certain demographics and realized that its top success is in Shonen. The only thing I can think of for a Shojo equivalent is the novel Jane Eyre (which I only forced myself to read because of school lol, barely got through so I just read summary chapters from Shmoop lol). That’s a romance story, so I’m assuming it is Shojo. I think they make live action movies like this type too. I also see that girls that age span love so much to read novel books, that’s why they flood book fairs, don’t see boys that age doing the same. Is that why it seems like “boy/shonen” cartoons are more popular? So what I’m getting at is that western media only makes Shojo equivalent genres as live action films while their mature cartoons are focused to be as gender neutral and ageless as possible. When you say Josei is emotionally oriented, meaning the genre is focused on your emotions? Or the story’s emotions? What I’m currently thinking is that a genre that plays with your emotions is like horror movies. Horror refers to an emotion right? Comedy also refers to an emotion. Thrill, Drama, …etc. They’re all emotionally oriented. And Josei is targeted to adult women. Funny thing is that I know so many women that love horror, for some reason lol, so that checks. Men aren’t similarly interested. Everyone loves comedy anyways, but I think I get what you mean by emotionally oriented genre now. You’re right, when I think of Cinderella I picture specific scenes I watched of her as a kid when she was a slave, not about her princess brand. Young girls that buy toys and backpacks that have Cinderella’s picture on the back choose it because of the “princess🧚” theme and brand, not because of the movie they watched lol. But why didn’t men have the same thing with My little pony? You make it seem like the internet has a specific grudge against My little pony and everyone incorporated in it LOL. I was born in 2004 so I’m about to be 22. I watched the original Care Bears, but I didn’t know about My Little Pony until Friendship is Magic released in the 2010s. I just looked it up because I wasn’t aware there was an original version. I didn’t follow the series at that time, only whichever episodes that aired that time, so I’m not too familiar with it. It only reminded me of the Care Bears because I was simple minded as a kid and the ponies looked inspired by design from them. At that time I just watch whatever airs when I’m free to do so. Be it a boy or girls show, I even watched Strawberry Shortcake I didn’t care Lol. These days kids aren’t obligated to watch what airs so they choose what they want and therefore having a narrower outlook. It’s not the same to our case when there was a time when we used to rent Netflix DVDs, because cartoons that aired were actually gold. Today most things that air feel like they just want to fill some slots while the real money comes from streaming services. If Shojo is actually like Jane Eyre then I’m not interested even if I wanted to be lol. Maybe it’s a boys thing that we don’t like watching romance LOL. To be completely honest, to me it feels like there’s no truth to find in it. I don’t know what to look for. And if the ending is just the two being in a relationship, then it feels stagnant, and just a given. I must say that it isn’t about the genre itself, I think it’s the authors making the stories🤔. Because I’ve heard romance stories that give me lessons, I’ve heard romance stories that have wisdom baked in (all these were tales told to me not actual media like cartoons), and that I like. Meaning it’s all about the story, regardless of genres. I do remember as a kid I liked watching Robin Hood and that had romance as one of its genres.

Mike G. M.

> I can’t think of any cartoon that’s supposed to be aimed at 19 to like 22 year old girls Well first off; that is a very weird demographic because that is almost exactly the transition age from Shojo to Josei lol. If we're actually giving more definite age ranges for these things. Kodomo would be anyone 8 and younger, Shonen and Shojo are 9-19, and Seinen and Josei are 20+. The result is that there is a little more variability with the Shonen and Shojo sincethere is a slight difference between targeting 10 year old boys/girls and 16 year old boys/girls (you can thank puberty for that part lol) but they are still under the same category of "young and teenage audience" > Something Japan couldn’t do so it focused on certain demographics and realized that its top success is in Shonen. We've kinda touched on this idea before in previous long-form conversations we've had, but there's a difference in Japan between "they couldn't do it" and "they chose not to do it". Japan is a much more traditionalist and conformist society then the west, so these demographics have slowly been emerging noticeable over the past 100-ish years in print media, and they've partially taken on a life of their own with authors experimenting withing the confines of their own demographic. Shonens was definitly the one that caught on easiest with a mass public though, especially as anime/manga was introduced to the west, and if you are a marketing publisher; why wouldn't you focus on the ones that are clearly the most profitable? > what I’m getting at is that western media only makes Shojo equivalent genres as live action films while their mature cartoons are focused to be as gender neutral and ageless as possible. You are 100% right in that for cartoons specifically, there aren't really that many in terms of 'Shojo' in the west. The only ones that I can think of the top of my head are Winx Club, She-Ra, Star vs the Forces of Evil, Owl House, and kinda Totally Spies (Though that one is very, *very* weird and sexual and I'm not particularly comfortable with it). Most of the actual "shojo"-style shows in the west are live action. Lizzie Maguire, Hannah Montana, Gossip Girl, Wednesday on Netflix right now is pretty damn Shojo-coded, and that's not even getting into the films and books like Babysitters Club, Fault in our Stars, Princess Diaries, Clueless, and of course... Twilight. I do think there's a bit more of an argument to be made that most cartoons are still primarily focused on a male audience though. Both for the younger audience and the more "adult cartoon shows" are primarily male focused. (The only female-centred adult cartoon I can picture off the top of my head is Hazbin Hotel) > When you say Josei is emotionally oriented, meaning the genre is focused on your emotions? Or the story’s emotions? The latter. You mentioned Jane Eyre? That and a lot of the classics in that vein (Pride and Prejudice, Wuthering Heights, Rachel, etc.) they would absolutely considered Josei because they were written with an adult female audience in mind. They are mostly about the life, tribulations and emotional struggles that are being felt by the main characters. Basically, it's very similar to shojo, but the difference is that it's written to me more grounded. And in many ways it's a similar thing to the male side too. Shonen and Shojo tend to be written as very much "larger then life". They embellish, they make things seem grand and exciting; it's very much a fantasy. Whereas Seinen and Josei tend to be far more realistic, like "this is something that could happen". It's something designed to be more relatable since, in theory, the adults reading them are likely to have personal experience with similar circumstances. As an example; let's go back to Naruto in Shonen. There's the iconic image of him on the swing set, and the show constantly talks about how he had no-one etc. The idea and theme there is obviously loneliness, and it's presented in a way that a lot of people can connect and relate to, but it's a very embellished as a story line. There's nothing wrong with that, it clearly is something that resonates with a lot of people and it invokes emotions in people that watch the show, but it is still, for lack of a better term here... simple. Compare that to a very popular Seinen series called 'Goodnight Punpun'. (Doesn't have an anime adaptation yet fwiw; much to many peoples displeasure) Punpun as a series about a family of cartoon birds, so it's still clearly fictional, and like Naruto it also deals with the theme of feeling alone. The difference is that because it's aimed at adults who again, in theory have more maturity and emotional experience with this then teenagers, the series talks about loneliness and depression in a way that people describe as "accurate to the point of being almost frightening". It's not to say either series is "better", because they are attempting to do different things with different people. Naruto is supposed to be a feel-good story about an outsider that finds a group that supports him. It's written to that teenage boys that are lonely can fantasise about being in his position and feel inspired by what he does and his success. Punpun is instead written with the expectation that is will be read by adults that have had to come to terms with multiple decades of isolation, losing people, and are just far more personally intimate with the feelings of being alone, and is less an escapist fantasy and more about "What could actually happen? What is something that realistically could be done in these circumstances, either that would make things worse, or maybe hopefully make things better?" You can probably imagine why a series like that, as critically acclaimed as it is, doesn't really have the "mass marketability" that a series like Naruto does. (Although funny enough there's actually a number of series that there entire thing is that they start out looking like they'll be in one of the "younger" demographics before swapping to one of the mature ones. The main show that I keep screaming at Lucky to watch is like that, and there's also another big hit that got adapted into an anime last year that started out looking like a Kodomo series before left-turning into full on Josei out of nowhere as a way to stun the audience.) > What I’m currently thinking is that a genre that plays with your emotions is like horror movies. Horror refers to an emotion right? Comedy also refers to an emotion. So this is where we start getting into a little bit of distictions between "Demographic" and "Genre". Lets stick with horror for the moment because it actually works pretty well, since even if we ignore the subcategories of horror (After all, 'Alien', 'The Shining', and 'The Blair Witch Project' are all horror, but you can't really argue that they're the same "type" of horror you know?) the reason you think that a lot more women then men like horror is that there is a very surprising amount of big horror films aimed at women. A horror film that would be aimed at men is something like "Saw", or "The Thing", while the biggest horror film of 2024 was a film called "The Substance", a film that is undeniably targeted towards a female audience. The director themselves has openly said "This is a horror film I wrote to represent the pressures that women feel about their appearance as they age". That is the audience she is going for. Can men still enjoy it? Yes. And they absolutely do. But does that change the fact that it was written for, and marketed towards women? Not at all. Combine that with the fact that "Childrens horror" is also very much a thing that exists ('Coraline' being the de facto and some would say pinnacle example) and this is what I've been saying that "demographics" is not the exact same thing as "genre". There is overlap, there is certainly trends where a genre will appear more often in a specific demographic, but they are not exactly the same thing. > You make it seem like the internet has a specific grudge against My little pony and everyone incorporated in it LOL. "Grudge" is the wrong word here lol. It's more accurate to say they were "the butt of a joke". Like; you wanted to make fun of someone, you'd say "I bet you watch My Little Pony", and everyone else would laugh. Similar to saying "I bet you read Twilight" or "I bet you listen to Nickelback"; it was basically seen as something that defined you as a loser because "No one that's cool online would do that". (Like I said; there's a whole thing about gender and stereotypes to do with how and why this happened, but I'm not going to be touching that as a topic here... I'd like to keep some semblance of whatever sanity I like to pretend I have left lol) > I must say that it isn’t about the genre itself, I think it’s the authors making the stories🤔 Yep; I think that's pretty much the gist of it. You talked about romance for example; arguably one of the most popular and successful Shonen series running at the moment is defined by most people as romance series. It even uses so many of the cliches that people see in romance shows, but because it does something interesting with them, people are okay with that. I responded to David that the series that he suggested isn't one I would put on a "Shojo/Josei-only" list that I'd make for Lucky, and I'll admit; the 3.5 out of the 4 options I would pick do all have a pretty significant romance focus. But they also have more to them than that, and that's kind of why I'm really hoping that Lucky can watch one of them sometime. And who knows; if I can get my way and he picks one; you can try giving them a watch and see how you feel to :)

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Sorry for being so late but I was extremely overworked these past two months, now that I’m finished, I’m much more free, at least I can catch up to what I’ve missed from Solo Leveling. I will say, I did read your response when you first sent it at the time. > Shonen and Shojo are 9-19. That’s a huuuge spectrum, I’m surprised. It’s the biggest one out of the other demographics. But to be fair, it’s not like there are rules to this, everything is a mix of everything, when an author writes a story, more than likely there’d be aspects taken for each part of that spectrum probably unintentionally, it’s just that where does the final product lean towards on the spectrum. > Shonens was definitely the one that caught on easiest with a mass public though, especially as anime/manga was introduced to the west. Yeah I’ve been thinking, is it because girls have other forms of entertainment they like? I see a lot of girls reading novels, boys their age don’t do that just as much. And they see much more live action shows like romance, comedy, drama, and even a lot of reality tv. Not as much men watch so many shows as how many women do. Yeah men watch some shows like breaking bad, but women watch that and their other stuff that are targeted towards them. So when it came to animation, it filled the gap men had and it became easier to give anime to teenage and adult men, which makes it seem like anime targeted towards men is more successful (as in popular) than anime targeted towards women. I’m just theorizing here. You listed a lot of Shojo cartoons from the west. I have never heard of all of these except Totally Spies, and that is not sexual lol. I don’t know what version you saw, but the version I saw as a kid was Kodomo, as in it’s a kids show. Okay, so there are Shojo cartoons in the west, news to me. You also listed live action shows. I only saw Hannah Montana as a kid, and I’ve heard of Wednesday but decided not to watch it, and heard a lot of “Twilight” being thrown around in convos but I don’t remember if I ever watched it either, but the others I haven’t heard of. You know a lot and that’s sooo many shows and books, and you also know Japanese anime and most of the anime there, I don’t know how you do it lol, did you actually watch everything?! I google searched Goodnight Punpun. It’s absolutely revolting. I do not want to see that shit again lol. I’ll explain this, I hate depressing stuff so much I don’t allow my home to be even dim. All lights are on and curtains are open during the day. The only darkness that I like is when I sleep, that’s it. I like nature, I like the day, I’m a morning person. Gloominess is repulsive. I understand some people might have grim experiences, but I choose to stay away and look at the bright side. Google says it’s seinen, but isn’t the whole story emotionally oriented? So I assumed it Josei, but that’s targeted for women. You also said Japanese are traditionalists and follow the demographic approach. So it’s either one of Seinen or Josei, but the basis of that story is emotionally oriented correct? Or am I not getting how they differ? Every single horror film you mentioned I have never heard of before, this impressive on its own, you know every show from every category lol. I do remember Caroline and that was terrifying as a kid. When I first watched AOT, I considered it a horror that has a good story lol. I understand what you mean, genre classifies the composition of the literature while demographic aims at targeting that to a specific type of people. Your example made a lot of sense, children’s horror, women’s horror, and men’s horror. What’s interesting is that there are no English terms for the demographics. English has terms for genres, say fiction, documentary, comedy, action, etc. But there are no words for Kodomo, Shonen, Shojo, Seinen, and Josei. It’s not in the vocabulary. And it aligned with how a lot of their work is ageless and genderless. They just say 18+ or 12+ or PG, not even specifying for men or women, it’s still there intrinsically though to a point, you said men can enjoy women’s horror, that’s why a lot of men do enjoy watching these too. But it’s not confined to that like how the Japanese are with their certain demographics. All Lucky ever saw in his channel was Shonen, damn! I can see why you want him to change his decisions from root level. There are so many categories within genres within demographics and different types of media from digital media, books, manga, animated and live action, etc etc etc. I can see how less of a variety there is in this channel. Before learning this, I was wondering why all anime felt extremely the same I considered stopping, and I didn’t know what made Lucky keep going lol. If you do get your chosen anime picked, I’ll try it but I’ll tell you from now I’ll most probably not love it, like it won’t be how AOT is for me.

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To be fair Mike, some of the long titles you gave are actual titles, like saying Avatar: The Last Airbender, Batman: The Brave and The Bold, and the Lord of the Rings titles that are really long. But there’s a difference between these and the anime ones you mentioned as trends and attention grabbers. “That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime” feels like a sentence that was taken mid conversation lol. I’m typing based off memory because the post that had your comment is gone, but I remember you said there was a show called Firefly, the issue wasn’t with respect to the title or the author’s part in his work, it was with the broadcast network station that handled his show, and it was dealt with poorly. However, the strange anime or mangas that have these titles are part of the work, and it’s either an attempt to grab attention or follow a weird trend. They act like it’s the best way to advertise their work, I understand it can be expensive especially if there’s no return if their work fails to be successful, but that shows it’s not good enough, right? It still feels like I’m not truly understanding it because something this obvious can’t be done this commonly if it’s bad, I think it’s a culture thing maybe, probably people just accept it. I’m sure people don’t think much about it, I’m the one overthinking, because if I see this title my mind says it’s trying tell me the synopsis, it wants to grab my attention in that way, the author doesn’t get much success in his work, he’s putting effort from his side to advertise, he cares to make money more than he cares about his story and this piece of work, so the writing won’t be with respect to the story, but with respect to the viewer, BAD😂. But anyways, Slime didn’t win so we won’t be seeing how that show turns out to be.