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It's finally here... The supposed downfall of Red Dwarf. Will Kat and Paula think the same?

Thank you all for being here with us on these watch throughs and thank you for always being a supportive and wonderful community!

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Red Dwarf | Tikka to Ride S7 Ep1 | Gallifrey Gals Get Dwarfed

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Jonathan Giles

This season has some classic moments lol. Big upgrade in the visuals. As always cannot wait to rewatch

Troy Convers

Series 7 was my entry point into RD and remains my favourite series. I am going to savour this reaction.

Nolan

Oops. Forgot my DVD has like, 4 different versions of this episode. Which did you guys watch?

Jakob1978

While I would agree that the show is more consistently better in series 1-6, there’s still a lot of really good episodes to come.

Jakob1978

This matched up to the version that’s on the BBC IPlayer perfectly

Pocket Trumpeter

I'm not a series 7 fan but this episode stands out for me hugely, probably my second favourite episode of Red Dwarf in its entirety. I'm so glad that you both loved it, have been excited for this reaction for so long.

Brodie Vickers

I forget who said this, might have been Rob Llewellyn (Kryten). But apparently the JFK assassination footage was recaptured far too well! Mistaken for the real thing on 1st viewing.

Raven Stromdans

Tikka To Ride is almost certainly one of the most inventively written episodes of Red Dwarf's run, which is already littered with some positively ridiculously entertaining takes on sci-fi tropes. I'm not going to lie, I actually get a little misty at the prospect of JFK essentially sacrificing himself and the prospect of a future in his own shattered timeline for the benefit of the USA and his personal legacy in history. As far as the mechanics of the show itself goes, the change in cinematography and in particular the use of the laugh track really sets this apart from previous series, the latter in a good way, the former not so much in my opinion. It kind of feels like this was where the show finished it's transformation from a quirky, low budget science fiction show with a strong comedic vein to a straight up sci-fi sitcom, at least insofar as the production values and writing are concerned. I feel like this series in particular isn't as bad as people give it credit for, but I do think the writing suffered in the transition somewhat going forward. But who knows, maybe this will be your favorite season yet! Keep Calm and Smeg On, Gallifrey Gals! I'll be here smoking a kipper with Mr. Flibble until...hey, Mr. Flibble...where did you get this meat from again? Oh...oh NO!

Brodie Vickers

Yes they didn't shoot with a studio audience for this series, I think what they did was film the episode and then screen it to an audience to get their reaction. The extended version for this episode and the next have no laugh track at all.

Paul Baldwin

Series seven has much more of cinematic take as you have seen and has much more an emotional beat to it compared to previous series. I personally really like series 7

Bruce Bromley

I don't get the derision of Series 7. Different, yes, but far from being bad. I love that you both enjoyed this episode so much. Among stories of alternate JFK histories, this is my favorite. My second is in Quantum Leap, when Sam jumps into the body of Oswald. They called the Dallas PBS station to see how the episode was received when it first aired. They said that there was only one complaint, the cannibalism scene.

Kieran B

Agreed, love a lot of S7

Troy Convers

Nothing less than Red Dwarf's 'City on the Edge of Forever' episode.

Nolan

Oh, just a note on the Scale of Starbug being bigger than you thought, as you commented over a line: due to the paradox needing to sort itself out, Starbug's interior now doesn't match it's exterior, and the inside has grown 200%. So yes Paula, a Doctor Who episode. 🤣

Lizbeth Marcs

I'm one of the S7 nay-sayers. I just have a hard time getting through this series. That said — I really like three of the episodes in this series of which Tikka to Ride is one. In fact, I count Tikka as one of the best episodes in the series run. If this had been a Series 6 episode, it would be easily in the top 3 fan favorites I think.

Troy Convers

"I thank you all for the opportunity to be reborn" 😭

D. J. Toland

Yeah, they're shooting single-camera on film instead of multicam video and then showing that to a live audience. It's a little jarring but looks GREAT.

PickettsChargingPort

I can only speak for myself, but there is nothing wrong with this season. It's different, certainly, but still fun. I also want to comment on some spoilers, but no..

Troy Convers

Some notes, as I unabashedly squee over S7 - While some find S7, aka The Cinematic Era divisive and warn people off it, it's probably my favourite series of them all. It dials back the comedy a touch, dials up the drama a lot and digs into RD's lore, cashing in on some obscure plot threads, so creating a ton of throughlines and continuity. It feels like a complete series and while there's less outright hilarious moments, the drama can hit like a truck. -The first episod to be shot on film stock. The change in tone from a outright sitcom to a dramedy is divisive to some, but the idea for the tone and production change was that Naylor was looking to make a Red Dwarf film in this style. - Even though the previous series had ended on a cliffhanger, fans had been forced to wait three years for the resolution. This was due to a number of factors, which included Craig Charles being imprisoned before being cleared of a charge of SA, Chris Barrie making no secret of his desire to leave the show, and most notably Rob Grant deciding to leave the series. Naylor was left with the choice of either ending or continuing the series. Although tempted to end it, he later agreed to write two more eight-episode series of the show, as this would allow the episode count to reach 52 and therefore be eligible for syndication. - Ironically, the concept of saving JFK, changing the timeline for the worse, and having to go back and assassinate him from the grassy knoll was a proposed story Gene Roddenberry repeatedly pressured the studio to make into a Star Trek movie, without success. - The intro (that you never saw) was to showcase the CG being used and is a piss take on the intro to Star Trek Voyager - The Kennedy assasination scene footage was originally meant to be in B&W, but the idea was rejected because it looked completely authentic. - The scene was shot at Shepperton and the level of detail is astonishing; Kennedy dressed as 'badge man' on the grassy knoll, complete with coke bottle picket fence and M16 carbide; the boys dressed as the vagrants that were seen in a nearby box car; the parent trying to shield his kid; Zapruder with his camera; the shaky film footage, Oswald on the sixth floor that meant his trajectory was wrong. - The actor playing Kennedy? Michael J Shannon, not to be confused with Michael Shannon of Boardwalk Empire and Man of Steel fame. A storied actor and playwright, he nails Kennedy's Boston lilt. - The title is a play on words on the Beatles track 'Ticket to Ride, that happened to be released on the same day as the assasination. - Howard Goodall's music for S7 is GOD TIER, and does a lot of heavy lifting.

Troy Convers

They were going to change it to B&W, but most people thought it was actual footage.

Troy Convers

Smoke a kipper, or stoke a clipper...?

Troy Convers

Ep 4 suits no laugh track, IMHO.

Rob G

This series has a few of my favs in it and episode one is an absolute knock out imo. It is also a classic Dwarf episode where it starts out one way and turns out to be something completely unexpected by the end. In this case the switch to JFK was 'woah what is going on' and your reaction to that was just the way I felt when I first saw it. The jokes were great, the concept is brilliant and the ending is just fantastic, for me probably the strongest episode of them all.

Rob G

Hhmm, a Pastaloo maybe? :)

Nick Turner

The big question is though - have you had a beer and curry night yet?

Troy Convers

That was the final ep of QL, was it not? Loved that ep.

Robert Gendron

As a heads up for additional reaction possibilities, there is an extended version of the episode. Not much different from what you reacted to for the main story, but there's also an end gag for about 6 minutes that's pretty good if you can find it.

Matthew Hanlon

This is going to be interesting. I was 12 when series 6 ended, I watched 4, 5, & 6 as they went out and rewatched the first 6 series god knows how many times. But I’ve never rewatched any of the later series.

Bruce Bromley

It was the final season, fifth, but the first episode.

Geraint Harrison

Ah! You’ve got the cut version. I have had to re-sync a couple times :(

Wade Wallenstein

I knew you would love this! Brilliantly written and of course wonderfully acted. I was laughing at your first reaction to going back to 1963.

Skyrous

"Why is there a woman?" I've been waiting for this episode just to catch your surprise at that. Those of us who were following the show back in the day knew that was coming but in blind watch that would be quite a surprise. Just keep watching and she'll be along in a couple episodes.

Jonathan

Fun 'extended edition' fact - after all this Lister realises he can just swipe the curry supplies from past Starbug immediately before they would've been wiped out. Which is what he did all along in this timeline, explaining why Kryten comments at the start that 'there wasn't even any debris'. xD

David Tully

It's important to point out how key the return of Ed Bye was for the direction of series 7. It may look like a step up in budget but it was more down to the decision to change how the show was shot. Bye had been working on another excellent sitcom "The Detectives" with Jasper Carrott and Robert Powell, and he used the same techniques for single camera filming on RD Series 7. That influenced the decision to do away with the studio audience. At least 20 of the 30 mins of shows in previous series had been shot on location so they felt they could get away with it. It does, however, change the tone of the show from a "sitcom" into a "comedy drama" of sorts, which is why S7 gets such a mixed reception. Bye also was producer for this series and there is an argument to say that he was co-showrunner alongside Doug Naylor, who obviously was feeling the pressure after losing Rob as co-writer. Bye took on extra responsibilities from the last time he was on the show, not only deciding how the series would be shot, but also some key casting decisions (i.e the new cast member in the opening credits) as well as helping to dictate what would happen in certain scenes (part of the opening sequence for the next episode was his idea).

Chris Devlin

It's been a while since I last watched Season 7 and much like the Star Wars prequels my fondness for them despite their flaws is only growing. I'm actually really excited to revisit it.

pbaker

I’m glad you went with the original episode as broadcast on BBC2 January 1997. There is an extended version worth a watch at some point. I became a huge fan at 12 in 1992 and was beyond excited. Oh, I love the trailer for the series as well. Notice how the field removal film effect isn’t on this trailer and it just looks like normal video. https://youtu.be/iIFr2Zixvfc?si=qbzfCKA1sBv0VViy

Travis Boyle

The Gals from the Dwarf looking sharp today. Great reaction. Top 3 reaction to a Red Dwarf episode for sure. Glad you Gals loved the episode so much. I personally like Series 7 and 8. Funny thing is Gene Roddenberry had a similar story for his Star Trek 2 film script. In it the Klingons use the Guardian of Forever to alter the past. The Enterprise goes back to stop them but they have to separate the saucer section and crash in Canada. The US government thinks it is a UFO and Kennedy doesn't go to Dallas to oversee the crisis. In the end Spock assassinates Kennedy to restore the timeline. As you can see the studio wasn't thrilled with Spock killing JFK. Red Dwarf came up with a better solution. Actually a quite touching scene between Lister and JFK.

Troy Convers

And probably why a lot of 'fans' hate S7. I've seen some grotesque comments about her from men who quite frankly should be ashamed of themselves.

Scribbles

Series 7 is fine, I think, but this episode is one of the best episodes in the entire run of the show. And really, Series 7 is not as bad as people make it out to be. There's at least one that's a lot worse.

Katrine Myra

Tikka to Ride genuinely is one of the best episodes of Red Dwarf, as others have noted. That's the interesting thing about series VII - it really is a mixed bag. As you see and have already noticed to some extent, there are a lot of changes being made, and more to come. Some of these work really well, others... Let's just say I'm really curious to see your take on the last few episodes of the series...!

Katrine Myra

All of which is to say - it's not a bad series. It's just heralding a change, for better and worse.

Chris Neumann

So if you liked this episode, then you'll dig this season. It's a wild one, and you can tell they're practicing for the Movie which they thought was forthcoming. I think a big issue for a lot of fans is that on-set feel, for me I think they lose something when they don't have that studio audience to play off of and keep the energy up, and the editing also changes a bit as a result. Lots more singles and close-ups. It loses some of the snap, although they have done plenty of episodes and scenes without an audience (Better Than Life, Backwards) and those were fine. Maybe it's because the momentum from the first six seasons was broken and now they're trying to get back into the groove, I dunno. But they do have the new advantage of going to some cool locations and bigger sets, you'll notice Lister's monologue was almost one continuous shot going from compartment to compartment. I think the faux film look they added might be working against them, I'm not sure I remember when you started watching and thought it would be a gritty space show, I could imagine this series being the look you were thinking of.

Sebastian Bodine

Honestly, I think the weak part is more on Kryten than it is on her. I think she was great and wanted to see her again in Series X-XIII. I think the main weakness part about her character had to do with Naylor's "boy's club" writing.

Sebastian Bodine

Series VII has a strong start and I honestly like the finish, but the middle part was where it is weakest. I think the jump from six episodes to eight was caused some actual filler to slip in. I think it's a better season by cutting out the 4th episode and maybe the 6th. This season isn't flat-out bad. It does suffers from a lot of changes that can't be immediately remedied.

Paul Flux

I'm so glad you enjoyed this so much. Some fans don't like the shift in tone and style this season, but I remember that the reaction from my friends and I when this first aired was " oh yes, Red Dwarf is *back*!'

Juzzie

It has its problems but honestly I like series 7

Troy Convers

Yeah, that 'Starbug resize' bit gets revisited.

Josh McPherson

Honestly, I think the first two episodes of Series 7 is some of the best Red Dwarf ever.

John Veitch

I've come to realise there are a lot of problems with this episode, but Jerkass Kryten is a highlight. ("You bet your ass!") Also Rimmer's "one minute you're down, the next you're right back up again" is one of those lines that has always stuck with me.

Susan K Dailey Photography

I like series 7 but it's very uneven as I'm sure you'll have noticed by now! Fun fact - Craig did the whole opening scene after only looking at the script once - just before filming the scene. I wish my memory was as good as his! This is the only episode my mum won't watch as she finds the concept offensive.

Cojuancidence

Well there ain't no place in the whole of space...." Hurray

Daniel Graham

Don't get too worried about the show... it gets perhaps a little weak in some seasons like this one, but I always found each episode a joy and they really pick up again in the last couple seasons imo.

Daniel Graham

There is a decently longer version that I was watching from amazan prime... your version skipped a bit of dialogue and b-roll and a post ending scene about how lister finally got his curries back.

David Shadwell

As already mentioned there is a huge tonal shift in Series 7 that can take some getting used to. It is understandable to be honest as Rob was doing this solo now and getting a few other writers to pitch in to try and ease the burden. So the writing, the look and the dynamics in front of the camera all change dramatically. But there are some great episodes here with some great gags. Also, the pathos does return which I felt was missing in Series 6. Tikka to Ride obviously has it but it is prevalent in quite a few as well; not to mention the next ep and the one penned by Bob Llewellyn as well. Lots to recommend over the next 7 eps. The negative aspects in my book are the early CGI effects look so flat and cartoony which is a real shame. They detract more than add and are a real let down. I also think they missed a trick by not really continuing with the Time Drive theme as was done here. Also, the change in dynamic of the crew takes time to bed in but that is understandable given how long Doug had written for just a few characters. Cat also feels underused this year as far as I can remember. Looking forward to seeing the rest though as it has been a while since I have seen these. Some greats to see again and some average by-the-numbers (which is still better than a lot of comedy/Sci-Fi that is out there).

David Shadwell

Apologies to the Americans on here but I do like the FBI Agent and Policeman's reaction to the Dwarfers suddenly disappearing. Just to open fire indiscriminately at where they were and then turn and do the same to the helmet. Very stereotypical on my part but feels a very American law enforcement reaction to a situation: just shoot at something.

Troy Convers

It's not filler, it's character growth. Think TNG 'Family. I get that some people aren't used to that in RD, but I love it.

Troy Convers

Naylor had decided to do two more series to wrap up the story, and the reason why there are 8 eps a series is to bring the ep count up to 52 and be eligible for syndication.

Sebastian Bodine

Considering Kryten's character who used to serve women before he was a Dwarfer. It feels a little more character assassination to see this massive step back. Also, Cat takes a step back as far as being prominent throughout the show.

Chris K

The biggest problem with Series 7-9 is the lack of a studio audience. The cast and crew themselves have said this. They are used to gauging the comedy with the audience reactions, so they as actors had nothing to go on. Consequently, a lot of the timing feels less sharp than previous seasons. This is why Series 10 onwards feels a lot more traditional.