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Star Trek: Voyager | S1 Ep 15 | Jetrel | Get Delta'd! (Patreon)

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Here we are with another classic Star Trek morality check

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Lintrinsic

No, they didn't run out of money, they made four more episodes, but the new paramount network UPN wanted to change the running order and carry 4 episodes over to season 2. Also the running order on Amazon/Paramount+ (at least in the UK) isn't airdate order as it used to be on Netflix, just to confuse everyone.

TuneIntoSanityFM

The same actor who played the defector Romulan, amongst other roles. Always a pleasure to see him playing the complex role.

Hell3Quin

There are worse holo-bars Voyager could be frequenting :Ahem: Also in the UK we call it getting 'snookered' when that happens in pool, but I've no idea what 'calling a safety' is?

Redjac

Then I suppose you also call Oppenheimer and Einstein war criminals? Jetrel said some things that Neelix wanted to hear and hid his guilt behind phrases. His research could be successful. He didn't know how the Voyager systems would cope. We've encountered many other species with better teleportation technology. How long it might take to restore everyone depends on the technology. If it happened, the person felt like no time had passed, since the brain couldn't process any information. If the body, and especially the brain, were completely restored, the personality would be the same as before.

xeve

it's a non scratch shot, iirc must hit 3 rails. there maybe other conditions based on what version of pool is being played.

Rogier Oude Heuvel

Yea, its a very complicated situation, which I felt was accurately protrayed, that it was a Horrible Situation and there is not 1 person to blame for something like that happening. But what an emotional and devastating episode it is. They did their best in the 45ish minutes they had, but such a complex situation would have benefited from having more time to develop. Still a great episode imo, just a bit rushed imo.

Troy Convers

In NFL, it's a QB being sacked in the end zone.

Troy Convers

The problem with moral dilemma episodes in Trek is that sometimes the subject is too good for 45 minutes, this being a classic example. The acting is great, the subject is great, but it feels a bit rushed. Add to that, Neelix to this point is written either as a comedic foil or reacting to some really dark fucked up crap with no mid point in-between. Always a treat to see James Sloyan though.

Nolan

Getting halfway through an uncut reaction only to have to pause and deal with something else, leaving not enough time to finish it before needing to go to work. -_-

Susan K Dailey Photography

I think it was a writer's strike that caused the season to be truncated. Honestly it's serious episodes that show Neelix in the best light - he works much better as a serious character than as a comic character. The thing about Jetrel is that Jetrel still honestly doesn't get it, why people like viewed him as a monster. He doesn't truly want to atone - he wants to make people believe he's not a monster. Neelix was by far the bigger man by forgiving him at the end. Janeway is a cosmologist to trade. There's a novel about her life called Mosaic, it's worth a read (unlike the more recent biography which I'd recommend skipping)

Ben Chan

My takeaway from this episode is that the Pals really don't like billiards.

Hell3Quin

Hiroshima discourse at 21 minutes.

Locoturbo

I think one of the failures in this episode's attempt at comparison is, while we don't know specifics of what was going on in the Talaxian / Haakonian war, given what we know of Talax, I can't imagine there was anything like Third Reich fascism or similar that the Haakonians were trying to stop.

Locoturbo

There's Talaxians in that nebular cloud!

Firefly24601

I look forward to hearing Jethro Petrol's first album.

Locoturbo

Trek often tries to present 2 sides of an argument to get us to intellectually explore the topic. I feel shouting one side down during the ep is not the best way to experience the narrative... Anyway, editing this to soften my tone but also to make a related point, and write a bit of a novella in the process because... I f'ing love Star Trek. And I appreciate anyone who wants to go on this spoiler-free exploration of the topics in this ep with me! (And man does it bring up some big topics!) So one topic that comes up often for me, and arises here is "do you trust the writers?" Sometimes that can be tough. But I feel I couldn't enjoy a show if I didn't MOSTLY trust where the writers were taking me. I often find fault with some aspects of an episode, but almost always I can still appreciate the intent. That said, I do take issue with some of Jetrel's arguments, especially the 'inevitability' angle. TECHNICALLY, he's not wrong. The metreon cascade would eventually be discovered by someone. (The cascade was really just an obvious parallel to uranium fission bombs which, WERE certainly inevitable on Earth in the 20th century, but that's not my point here.) The question is - when and by whom? The federation has TONS of scientists, of many different races. And AFAIK had not developed a metreon cascade weapon (unless someone did, and it was hushed up.) Conversely, the Talaxians and the Haakonians (and Kazon) are very impressed with Federation tech, especially the transporter / replicator tech. Which, to some degree the Federation has had for over a century. SO, while something like a metreon cascade may "be inevitable" it doesn't SEEM plausible that it would be inevitable for the Haakonians/Talaxians anytime soon. Meanwhile the Federation in TNG is designing things like the soliton wave as an alternative to warp ships... which, oh no, is headed for a colony and will destroy half the planet(!!) unless we can tech tech just right in time! And the implications of THAT make me distrust the writers of that TNG episode because, what a crazy accidental weapon that we haven't heard about since! My point is, I get what they were going for, even though the plot has holes. And I get the point of exploring both sides of the topic, even though Jetrel's moral defense also has holes in it. But I do agree with him that it's largely NOT on the backs of the scientists (because of the inevitability in many cases, but also in the morality of using a weapon, and how, is much more important than creating it.) A present-day example is AI. AI is inevitable... it has some good uses... and also a lot of bad ones, and terrible side effects from being out of control. AI server farms siphoning our power, our water, and the base silicon chips we needed for other, better things. And for what? An AI arms race most of us don't want, for use cases most of us don't want. And even though I don't demonize science PER SE... as someone from science & engineering who was gifted in university, awards etc... I never made my way into the field professionally. And I am personally glad I did not contribute materially to anything like AI, weapons, even the underlying tech or anything else to give humans more tech. Not because tech is bad... but because -- we don't deserve it. "Our technology has exceeded our humanity." And maybe that, too, was a point the episode was trying to make.

Siva

One of the best episodes of the season and possibly the best Neelix focused episode of the entire series (he doesn’t get many unfortunately). Neelix is and has been one of my least favorite Trek characters ever but as this episode shows, it really isn’t the actor’s fault. He is just acting out the stuff written for him. When they give him good material he does well with it. Kind of feel the same about Jar Jar Binks from Star Wars. Horribly annoying character but no blame on the actor. I don’t think this backstory is ever mentioned again on the show which is unfortunate but kind of what you come to expect with Voyager as it goes on. They just hit the reset button and move on to the next one. The good thing is you can watch the series in almost any order unlike DS9 which is meant to be watched chronologically and you need to pay attention to small details.

Carrie Schwent

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