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Cause and Effect, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S5Ep18 (Patreon)

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2022-05-03 17:00:05
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Oh you know what time it is.. Kat's favorite crossover for Star Trek.. TIME TRAVEL SHENANIGANS!! Let's see what the Enterprise has in store for them this time with the time space continuum   

Thank you all for being here with us on these watch throughs and thank you for always being a supportive and wonderful community!

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PAULA DEMING

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Comments

Dan Williams

This one I watch a lot, but I just realized something... An ensign catches Geordie and prevents him from falling to his death.... I realized that that's the first person to realize there's a loop and manages to change the loop....

Dan Williams

"Five couples engaged in romantic encounters," more people that realized they were gonna die.....

Josef Schiltz

Not exactly a time loop, but a do loop, with micropedial changes within each loop of time. Just as there were in the Doctor Who episode Heaven Sent.

Locoturbo

Math nerd time: mass of Ent-D = 4.5*10^9 kg. Main shuttlebay at most is like 1/3 the width, say same depth and 3 decks = 250,000 m^3 of air = 306,000 kg mass. Gas ejecting into space at its room temp molecular speed (500m/s) = 1.53*10^8 kg m/s momentum. But this would subsequently move the Ent-D only 3.4 cm or 1.3 inches / second. Is that enough? :)

SnabbKassa

Eventually there was bound to be an episode where it turned out that Sideshow Bob was behind it.

Daniel Plummer

I always skip ahead on each video to 0:15. Today: 🐟🐟

Arek Schneyer

AHHH! here we go! My favorite Episode!

EricH86

Next week's cold open is going to make Kat soooooo mad. 😅

Kalhoun

One of the best Picard speeches is given in the next episode.

Andrew Hogan

The uniforms were not from The Motion Picture, it’s the only movie they weren’t used in.

Mike

When I first saw this I thought for way too long that my cable company was screwing up haha.

Mike

Someone made an edit of this where they listen to Worf and the scene just cuts to credits. They couldn't have given that line to somone else for once?

R. Chang

it's really telling how much Texas Hold'em has taken over the world that most people don't know what 5-card stud is anymore.

Kathy A

First: Paula, if you have a cat shooting dice, you’d better keep an eye on your wallet! Second: this episode is most definitely on my Top Ten TNG Episodes list. Back in the early 1990s, when VHS tapes only had one episode and cost $20 each, this was the one TNG ep I owned. I loved that Katrina knew right away it was a time loop story! I did hear a rumor that they wanted to have the Bozeman’s First Officer be Saavik, played by Kirstie Alley in Wrath of Khan, for the fun Cheers reference, but she was unavailable, but they did have a Vulcan character there anyway.

Christian Rennie

Another Shut up Worf meme episode where if they just did what Worf suggests the episode would end. Always makes me laugh when this sort of thing happens to Worf. I do love this episode. But, I'm a little disappointed that Ro is not involved in any of the time loop stuff. Also, to learn that no re-use of footage fact makes me more disappointed that they didn't just show things from her perspective once. Could have been an opportunity where Ro ends up in the observation lounge and is integral to the sending the message idea and her inclusion results in the final break of the loop. Le'sigh....

Glen

The way I understood it is that the temporal loop was caused by the explosion from the two colliding vessels so the Bozeman passed through the distortion into TNG-time and then got stuck in the loop after the collision. If that's the case I think they would only have been stuck for the same 17 days as the Enterprise, having already been displaced from their own time.

Matt Hensley

The TNG crew is usually playing 5-card stud or 7-card stud, as they were the most common variants of poker through the 1990's. The 2003 World Series of Poker Main Event (which is Texas Hold'em) entered mainstream consciousness as it was widely broadcast for the first time, and Texas Hold'em has been the most popular variant since. It's funny that of all things, poker seems to be the thing that dates this episode!

EricH86

But if the Bozeman was from between 1 and 2, wouldn't that make Saavik's appearance in 2 impossible?

Dan Crucy

Hi Paula! :) If the senior staff didn't just reflexively reject Worf's every recommendation, this episode would be over 20 minutes earlier. Also, there's a really great outtake from I think this episode where Data asks Geordie what happened to his beard and he replies "the producers didn't like it".

Jarrod Wild

That was how I always understood it, as opposed to the Bozeman being stuck in a loop since the 23rd century.

Kathy A

That’s why IIRC it was just a rumor that came about before the actual timeline of the Bozeman was set in place. I liked the idea, though!

Mark Ten

Sorry, but blame Ensign Ro! Everything goes to hell when she's given a direct order. I think she's still PO'd with Riker

Data Cable

Except First Contact... and Insurrection... oh, and Nemesis... and also Star Trek (2009)... not to mention Into Darkness... as well as Beyond.

Data Cable

Curiously, they removed (or rather, didn't include) the wall between the bedroom and living room in Beverly's quarters. I suspect Frakes determined that sequence(s) would move more smoothly if they didn't need separate camera/lighting setups for the individual rooms.

Jonathan Emery

One of my Favorite episodes. Also I always believed that the Bozeman traveled forward in time through the rift and from their perspective it was the first time as opposed to the Enterprise 's experience rupturing space time and being stuck in a loop.

ian webster

I have the Fraiser collection on dvd, brilliant writing .

Brad Barter

I'd like to believe that the other crew from the past experienced a time loop similar to the Enterprise, however, if they had done so for 90 years without coming up with their own solution to their impending doom that by the time the Enterprise snapped them back into reality they wouldn't be calm and collected but a hysterical raving mess. Especially considering the TNG crew noticed it after 2 weeks and became more and more aware of exactly what would come next. So all that being said I believe their actual knowledge of events only occured within those 36 seconds destroying both ships and simply not giving them enough time to stray away from whatever actions they did to avoid it themselves, constantly repeating the same orders, maneuvers etc as the Enterprise bridge crew continued to do over and over again simply because there was no time to do it themselves. So after they were snapped back into reality it is possible they will remember doing the same actions starting as they exited the distortion and may now experience the trauma of it. Counselor Troi would definitely have her work cut out for her (until the other ship reaches a Starbase etc) either way from their memories of it plus the loss of everything and everyone they knew as the crew of the Enterprise-C began to in Yesterday's Enterprise.

Mark Chrisco

Many fans at the time wanted to know what happened to the Bozeman crew. Even the writers said the ending opened up to another story and in fact Diane Carey wrote an original TNG novel, Ship of the Line, which takes place immediately after the end of this episode.

Neil McRae

"Perhaps we should reverse course." "For all we know, reversing course it what leads us to the crash." Uhhh, no, Riker. It wouldn't, because you would've had no reason to reverse course the first time.

Aaron Thorpe

I've been looking forward to this one!

Mike

That's the video I mentioned haha

Sal Sanchez

One of my faves! I remember reading that the studio tried to get Kirsti Alley to reprise her role as Savik (ST: TWoK). She was gonna be standing beside Kelsey Grammer as his first officer. The two were starring in Cheers at the time. I think she was asking too much money for just standing there. I also remember that Grammer (a huge Trek fan) wanted a FULL movie-era uniform, not the later uniform without the turtle neck and belt. As always, the two of u provided us with great reaction entertainment. Keep up the good work.

DC

So cool to hear this was a favorite episode of other fans. I thought I was the only one who really loved this one! I always thought the variety of angles and shots made everything seem off, which worked well for the atmosphere of the episode.

R. Chang

At the beginning of the season, Paula mentioned that one of her favorite episodes was coming later this season, but probably not the one we might think. My guess is that it’s the next one.

LogicSequence

Found this online, probably already known to y'all by now though: "The Bozeman was trapped because they never realized they were in a loop or didn't figure it out in time before getting recycled and forgot all they learned. Even if they came to realize what happened in one loop they wouldn't be able to communicate with the next loop to change a critical choice to break it. The difference was the personnel aboard the different ships. Setting aside the 90 years advanced technology advantage and consider the players. Enterprise has a 1/2 Betazoid, an Engineer with a high-tech prosthetic and an android with a positronic brain collaborating to communicate with next loop."

Raja

First I've heard of that rumor. If Kirstie Alley wanted too much money to be in Search for Spock, don't see how the producers would even imagine she'd consider doing a syndicated TV episode.

Raja

Seems like that would only make sense if the Bozeman had traveled into the future to collide with the Enterprise.

Bluefox

The thing is, it is the collision between the Bozeman and the Enterprise that causes the time loop. Both ships are involved in each crash, so both ships must've looped the same number of times. That said, it does seem the explosion is what caused the Bozeman to jump forward to the future. Like in many time travel stories, that means effect precedes cause. TImey-wimey wibbly-wobbly.

Bluefox

WARNING TO KATRINA: While the video in question contains no spoilers, the channel posts a lot of Star Trek stuff. If you choose to watch, please watch in Incognito mode so that it doesn't affect your Recommendeds.

Bluefox

I assume they meant the only moving during that time period.

Bluefox

But it would make sense for Robin Curtis.

Bluefox

Raja; Yep. Hence the temporal distortion in the first place. However, the time travel was likely caused by the future explosion. It's explicitly stated that time is weak in that area.

Nolan

Good ol' Frasier Crane... There really were a lot of Cheers cameos in Trek... I admit, I was hoping Kat would be a little more bewildered before it clicked, but she's too savvy to time shenanigans. Showing this episode to my mom who doesn't get or like Sci-fi at least gave me some of that satisfaction of confusion. But she still just doesn't get it that much. I used to think the Bozeman also was stuck in the loop for 90 years, but this time I realized they were only stuck in the loop once the Enterprise exploded, because it was the explosion that created the loop. No Enterprise, no explosion, no loop. And THEN I realized that the anomaly the Bozeman came out of was the same kind of one that the Enterprise-C came out of. Only, they must not've had that much of an effect on future events, as history didn't change, nor did they seem to go back through. Also, Guinan was totally one of the ten people who knew something was up.

DarkAshtar

I'm guessing the knife has a titanium coating, giving it the iridescent look. I had a sword like that.

Artemis Zeidman

For a minute, I thought Katrina got a replica of Beth’s childhood knife from Rick and Morty. This is a stellar episode (pun intended). I will say, however, that it’s definitely a plot convenience that the crew (other than Data) becomes keenly aware of what will happen in some instances (like which cards are going to be dealt and Geordi going to sickbay), but no one could remember not to follow Data’s advice.

EricH86

Or maybe she's a big fan of Mark Twain?

Joe Concepts

I always enjoyed the notion that no matter what happens, that glass is destined to break. Granted, I don't know why in the 24th century, they're apparently replicating breakable glass?

Firefly24601

Foley artists still need a job, even in the 24th century.... :D

Thomas88

E17,18, 19 and 20 are the best of season 5 They really wen deep with the stuff in the episodes. Your reactions are cool, like most times :) But to me, the best part is the fact, that we get closer and coser to one of my favourite TNG episodes "Ship in the bottle"

Graham Mills

14:12 Shep successfully rolls for a shock attack.

Henry Fuller

I remember watching this when it first aired. I wish your show aired then that would have been amazing