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Gallifrey Gals Get Dwarfed | Red Dwarf | Meltdown S4 Ep6 (Patreon)

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He's back... Hitler has literally returned AGAIN. 

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Comments

Bruce Bromley

A great series four ender, which it wasn't supposed to be. It was scheduled closer to the beginning, pulled by the BBC because the Gulf War had begun. Paula, you are right, the monster footage is from Gappa: The Triphibian Monster a Japanese film from 1967. Last bit of trivia, with Tony Hawks playing Caligula, they had to bring in another warm-up comedian. Some unknown by the name of Eddie Izzard.

Kieran B

Absolutely here for the discussion and thought you were spot on about Parallel Universe. This was voted the least popular episode among fans many years ago, but I’ve always really liked it

Raven Stromdans

This is not one of my favoured episodes, but like all of them that we've watched with you, seeing it with new eyes definitely gave me a greater appreciation for it. The anti-war message wasn't lost on me when I was watching this myself, but especially seems more poignant now given the number of high profile conflicts happening in the world at the moment. As for the haters, who are absurdly media illiterate to have missed the sometimes subtle, sometimes glaring social messages in the show...they can all eat a bowl of smeg. Keep Calm and Smeg On, Gallifrey Gals! I'll be here smoking you a kipper until you come back with the next series!

Mark Ten

No spoilers, Im just gonna say "Black Adder". Those of you who know... Know!

Wade Wallenstein

Another wonderful reaction! I love seeing your perspective on this episode and the whole show so far. Can't wait to see what you think of Series 5!

John Veitch

It might have worked better going out before Camille, as Kryten is still acting like Rimmer's forced-to-comply-but-unhappy-about-it servant.

John Veitch

I agree about your "filtered through someone's world... filter" comment. Even when something isn't intended to send a message, it's still written from someone's point of view.

Susan K Dailey Photography

Not my favourite episode, I was so appalled at Rimmer by the end of this one. I'm so excited for series 5 though - every single episode is amazing! And I agree - politics is in everything, especially our media, so I get a bit irked when people say "keep politics out of it" when that's close to impossible. Even ignoring political happenings and making something completely benign is in itself a political act. Also it's moments like this that kind of solidified Lister being my favourite - he ain't perfect but he's got a very good heart.

Paul Flux

Re: the James Last joke, this was the stage name of a German big band leader whose middle of the road music was regarded as deeply uncool at the time this show was made. The joke was that he was not someone who was actually evil but was amongst the evil waxdroids because his music was terrible! Although there's an irony here in that the real man defied the Nazis in his youth by playing jazz. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/11/james-last-misunderstood-genius?

Bruce Bromley

It may have been. I think they do bring it up in the "Making of Series IV".

Bruce Bromley

Meltdown's reputation has gotten better over the years though.

Paul Flux

Just for the record; I'm very happy to be a Patron helping you make content that the haters hate! 😌

Bruce Bromley

Power corrupts. Even though Lister remarked they had broken they're programing and were sentient, they were no more than the pieces in Rimmer's Risk gameboard.

paul

Some great moments in this episode. Love the funky transitions, Tony Hawks as Caligula repeatedly slapping Lister whenever Cat speaks, Einstein getting frustrated with Pythagoras trying to reduce everything to triangles and of course the whole Winnie The Pooh scene. "He's refusing the blindfold!" Hahahaha, amazing...

Aidan Lunn

The anti-war message was quite topical at the time as it was recorded in the autumn/fall of 1990 when there were rumblings in the Gulf and broadcast in early 1991, just after the Gulf War started.

Firefly24601

They used some REALLY random historical figures for this episode. Stan Laurel? Pope Gregory?

Rob G

I always thought this was a pretty funny episode, the Elvis guy was great. I think it may have suffered a bit because Rimmer really is a bastard here, I defended him somewhat in the last episode as basically being petty and childish rather than having any phobic issues but he can’t be defended in this one. On the other hand it also makes him a vehicle to enable the really poignant message at the end. It’s only a few lines but they are really powerful nevertheless.

John Wayne

Somehow Hitler returned

Nolan

Yeah, initially DNA was supposed to be the end of the season so Robert Llwellyn could get out of the intense make up, but then current events caused the broadcaster to shuffle the episode order around. As for Rimmer in this episode, there is the one line about how his personality might've been affected a bit by a hardware malfunction rather than just Rimmer being Rimmer. I''m guessing it'll have "passed" by the start of the next series. I'm baffled by how people are blind to their biases or even that they HAVE them, and that others have them too, shaped by their experiences of life giving them such a perspective. So to watch media and NOT see anything beyond empty entertainment in it is nonsensical to me. Bread and Circuses indeed. Now I will say, I do tend to be a bit leery when shows skew their biases into a straight binary of good and bad, depending on the subject matter. Here, obviously Rimmer is in the wrong, as are the waxdroids of villain world. But in other shows when addressing issues where more Conversation needs to happen, even if one agrees with the creators bias, when they pigeon hole the opposing view into the "wrong" side with no exploration of WHY the opposing view had their bias shaped into what it is and no sympathy for what may have lead them into that, I just feel a bit gross at the oversimplification of an issue. It's one thing to say some view is bad, it's another to examine why that view is held, what makes others disagree with the view considered 'good' and how to reach out and change it. It doesn't excuse it, but it does make a better foundation for resolution than simple shaming and blaming. There needs to be more.

tal goren

I really don't understand how people could complain about the gals discussing the 'politics' that "Parallel Universe" blatantly introduced. was there anything else they could have discussed about that episode?

Daryl Hudson

In this episode you're relating with the writer Doug Naylor, it's his message, he despises war

Rob G

Lol.

DOSGamerMan

Comedy commenting on big issues, Damn good.

Mab7373822

For Rimmer, it is really interesting that this episode follows Dimension Jump. He hated Ace Rimmer because he wanted to be him. You know this would have eaten him up on the inside, long after his counterpart moved on. Suddenly, he is given the opportunity to possess the qualities he saw in Ace - authority, military success, influence - and disregard the kinder aspects of Ace's personality - compassion, kindness, deference and respect. To Arnold Rimmer, only the former qualities were of value. As he does again and again, he learns completely the wrong lessons. He starts ordering people about, has a fake uniform generated with medals and such (stolen valour?) and even has Holly replicate Ace's sunglasses. He perhaps becomes - in his mind at least - his own twisted version of Ace, with all the superficial touches. In his mind - he is finally achieving and equalling himself with his counterpart. As per much of Rimmer's henious acts, it comes from a place of complete inferiority, bitterness and envy. THAT SAID I don't believe this is fully a fair representation of Rimmer. Kryten makes a point that Lister damaged the Light Bee earlier in the episode, corrupting Rimmer's personality and utterly removing his inhibitions. The real Rimmer of this era - for all his many many flaws - would never give the order for Lister and Cat to be shot. The man IS capable of empathy, such as with Kryten on his Last Day, Lister in Marooned, his wish to join the Samaritans in DNA, and his eventual sadness that he was going to lose Holly in Queeg. He isn't a total monster - and Lister should take a whopping chunk of responsibility from his irresponsible and pointless act of chewing the Light Bee, that contributed to corrupting Rimmer and consequently the extermination of the people of Wax World.

Bill

Mother Theresa with the good side? Well, it was written like 30 years ago so *shrug* Kat's reaction to the slender head scratching man made me wonder, do they not know Laurel & Hardy? It's old. So anyway, that was Stanley Laurel.

Mike Connaghan

Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose.

Mike Connaghan

I thought the message was more anti-chimney.

Jasper de Vries

Cats and dogs getting along? I got nothin'

Jasper de Vries

The Elvis guy was great. What casts a bit of a pall on my enjoyment of his part is that he is currently spending eight years in prison for sexual assault of a minor some ten years after this show was recorded.

Rowan Talmage

The first two Red Dwarf novels were written by the showrunners roughly concurrently with series 1-4 of the show. Chris Barrie's performance of the audio books are a thing of glory, and available on YT for free ;)

Rob G

I don’t want Sue to get political that would be the worst thing ever.

Blower

It's not the messaging, per se, that is the issue for many fans of various shows - it's when they retcon the show for the sake of the message, often a message that was never present before at all but suddenly is being shoe horned in. Worse than that is how some shows are now so blatant with the messaging that it takes precedent over the story - as if the messages were devised first and then the story written around them. Often resulting in incoherent nonsensical stories or the episodes feeling more like a preachy government informational film. Red Dwarf is pretty low key on messaging and what messages are there they are done in an entertaining and/or subtle way and they don't retcon characters or the show in general for the sake of the message.

Darryl Glynn

I wasn't one of those going "WHAA. Politics" was I? I love a good political debate. And on 5hat note, Mother Theresa belonged on the other side with the evil dudes.

Skyrous

And not for the last time

Skyrous

Now on to the good stuff! Series 5 and 6 are the Crème de la crème of red dwarf. Not saying that their isn't good stuff after this but there isn't a weak episode among the next 12.

Lizbeth Marcs

This episode was supposed to be the opening episode in S4, but it and Dimension Jump got pushed back due to the First Gulf War, and DNA was supposed to be the closing episode of the series. To add another interesting layer on this, in one of the later making-of documentaries, they mention in passing that Chris Barrie was a "military brat", so his characterization of Rimmer comes from that world, which is probably why his turn from antagonist to villain is rather believable in this episode. The good news is that this is the most evil Rimmer gets in the entire series run. He has his bad moments going forward (he wouldn't be Rimmer if he didn't), but I think Meltdown is the real nadir for the character.

Kirk Deighton

It is crazy you got some complaints on YouTube about "politics" getting into their show. If it was rebooted today they'd throw a fit that the show had gone "woke" because the only cis white guy in the story is a cowardly incel fascist ( if they catch that Holly is trans, but that would mean reading the S3 crawl).

paul

Yep, the next 12 episodes are all absolute belters!

Brodie Vickers

Suprisingly this is an episode most people don't care for, I love it though. It's so random! With an anti-war sentiment you wouldn't usually expect from this show, and something we don't really see from it again. Doug & Ed were great at sprinkling those types of messages here & there into the show, another good example of this is living worthwhile lives, early in the next series. I'm a strict Leftie and around the same age as you are, It's true that at times I don't always 100% agree with some of your views, but I'm all for the politics! Keep being you😄👍

David Shadwell

It's my least favourite of the season but still appreciate it. It is a dark take on a dark topic in a comedy so imagine that is a hard buy for some people. Also, being broadcast out of order takes Rimmer backwards in his character development somewhat. But, yeah, he is the worst he will ever be at this point (barring the abysmal, in my view, Series 8). But comedy does need to tackle these issues as it puts them into stark contrast with the laughs. The world would be a sadder place without the likes of Blackadder Goes Fourth (which I blubbed like a baby at the end of the last episode, I'm not ashamed to admit).

Paflad

At a certain point I think we all have to accept that sci-fi as a genre has a very serious contingent of 'point missers' in it's fanbase. I for one was mortified when Star Trek 'suddenly' started dealing with social issues in it's recent resurgence, people started accusing Star Wars of being about Nazis, and Doctor Who; a show that absolutely definitely was not doing Nazi allegories in the '60s and climate change awareness serials in the '70s; went woke completely out of nowhere.

Rob G

Jasper I deleted my comment because it was downright rude. I had a few drinks and thought I was being funny, my apologies.

Jasper de Vries

No worries. I've seen more of your posts and took it in stride. Besides, I didn't like the news myself one bit either :).

Rob G

I love this reply Simon, when I defended Rimmer for his silly attitude towards sexuality and subsequently threw him in a ditch when the Meltdown episode came along you seem to have rescued him in my mind, your reasoning is well thought out and makes sense.

Rob G

Holly is not trans. The sex change was a joke for convenience after Norman left. He came back again in future episodes which in your mind he must have detransitoned right? That surely must be an anti trans message if you think about it.

Rob G

Also I think every character identifies as “cis”. Cat is a male seeking for a female. Lister is a male who wants to get with a female, Rimmer the same, but you did some sorcery in wrapping Rimmer around your political view to say what you needed to say. And that’s cool tbh.

Blower

Indeed, even if they did make him 'trans' for whatever reason - what they didn't do which is a common trope in many franchises nowadays, is that once transitioned to being a women they are now somehow superior in every way and spend the episode(s) making sure you know about it and putting male characters, including their past selves, down at every opportunity. Ironically and hilariously so they made female holly as stupid as a photocopier - not to make a mockery of women of course, just because it fit the story and allowed for many jokes over the series. Putting in trans characters or minorities or people with disabilities or more female characters is not the issue at all - its when they have been forcibly and often lazily added in, requiring either a partial or complete retcon of the show's history and characters...or have been added in such a way that it has nothing to do with the storyline - or the story has had to be written entirely around them, making it a story purely on the messaging and it all becoming somewhat preachy. This is why fans or people in general are annoyed - ok there are anger porn channels out there which have gone OTT and are deliberately fanning the flames for views - still that doesn't change the fact that many fans are annoyed at their shows being torn to bits to jam in the message.

Richard Moss

This, to me, is one of the great episodes.

Jasper de Vries

Legend has it that he is still looking for his lunch.

Luke Lawley

I pay money for your reactions and your opinions. I would imagine the vast majority of us value your opinions. Literally. If everyone had exactly the same view on everything, the world would be a boring place. And I've always thought he says rice puddin' haha 🤣

Sebastian Bodine

I had just realized that Marilyn Monroe makes a return appearance too! In a way, she's 2 for 2 in consecutive series finale appearances!

BriefMortal

It bewilders me that there are people that watch Red Dwarf but think it has no social commentary. What level of basic function are they operating on? 😂🤣

Katrine Myra

Red Dwarf fans tend to fall into two main categories: Those who see it as a great sit-com with a fun setting, and those to see it as a science fiction show that also happens to be a comedy. That's a gross generalization, of course, but you definitely see examples of both types. Both are great, there's no "right" way to enjoy the show! What's not cool, and what unfortunately does sometimes happen, is when fans who enjoy it for the comedy use "it's just a sit-com" to shut down and/or ridicule more serious takes on the show or an episode. As you've noted, Red Dwarf absolutely does tackle serious issues, the characters develop, and there is deeper meaning to be found. As for Rimmer... I find him to be quite a unique character, in that he's so fundamentally unlikable, yet we still like him. He does continue to change and grow throughout the show, he has so many deep set issues that it's just never going to be a matter of him having a "come to Jesus" moment. And I like that? Personally. :)

Travis Boyle

Great reaction to the Winnie the Pooh part. I guess after Series Five you could watch Red Dwarf USA and the Documentary about it on your Patreon. That would probably be a fun discussion.

Logan Bruin

My fave behind the scenes story is from this episode: the guy who played Elvis had a fever when he went in to record the end theme, and when he saw the lyrics he thought he was delirious. They had to assure him those were the right words...

Robert Biviano

Any art+ that condemns war is good art

Bob

holy shit, i have the same "defect"

Bob

Also did you girls consider the alternative? Hitler is going to win?