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Hello lovely Patrons!

You can now see the next episode of Philosophy Tube! For regular YouTube viewers it'll be out at the end of this month. It's about settler colonialism and genocide through a historical lens (that obviously contains some explicitly drawn parallels to current events). Plus it has Jonathan Frakes as the voice of Jefferson!

The title on this one is still a work in progress, I may change it, idk. There's also an A/B/C test of different thumbnails running so don't be surprised if you see the thumbnail change too.

Enjoy!

Abi xxx

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Jefferson & the Indians: The Complex Truth

See Part Three now! https://go.nebula.tv/philosophytube Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PhilosophyTube BIBLIOGRAPHY: Kathryn Akipa, Gladys Hawk, Craig Howe, Lanniko Lee, Kim Tallbear, and Lydia Whirlwind Soldier, “Reflections in Mnisose After Lewis and Clark,” in This Stretch of the River ed. Kim Tallbear Maggie Blackhawk, “Federal Indian Law as Paradigm Within Public Law,” in Harvard Law Review John Brinckerhoff Jackson, “Jefferson, Thoreau, and After,” in Landscape in Sight: Looking at America Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, An Indigenous People’s History of the United States Harrold Hellenbrand, “Not ‘To Destroy But To Fulfil,’ Jefferson, Indians, and Republican Dispensation,” in Eighteenth-Century Studies Mark Andrew Holawchek, Thomas Jefferson on American Indians Anthony Hobert, “Locke’s “Wild Indian,” in United States Supreme Court Jurisprudence,” in American Indian Law Journal Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia Queries VI and XI Thomas Jefferson, “Notes Concerning Boundaries,” 1784 Thomas Jefferson, “Letter to Benjamin Hawkins,” August 1786 Thomas Jefferson,” Letter to Henry Dearborn,” August 1802 Thomas Jefferson, “Letter to Benjamin Hawkins,” February 1803 Thomas Jefferson, “Letter to William Henry Harrison,” February 1803 James Tully, “Rediscovering America” Charmaine White Face, “Where Are They?” in This Stretch of the River ed. Kim Tallbear Joe Whittle, “The Case for Returning U.S. Public Lands to Indigenous People,” in Time Magazine Patrick Wolfe, “Settler Colonialism and the Elimination of the Native,” in Journal of Genocide Research MUSIC: 'SMOKE' by Luke Levenson, ft. Abbey Smith https://open.spotify.com/track/2DvonT751gQIRikzKDDGId https://www.instagram.com/lukelevenson?igsh=NzVjbzFoNTJya2tl&utm_source=qr #philosophy #history #america

Comments

Captain Mikee

Have there been edits since it went up on Nebula?

SeraphGraves

That was really interesting.

Paul Thompson

Thank you, Abi. Fascinating joining of the historical dots.

Zachary Yaro

That was really interesting (and so cool you got Jonathan Frakes!), though I have to ask: why did you call them “Indians”? I was under the impression “Native Americans” and “First Nations” were the common terms now since we have known for centuries at this point that the Americas aren't India?

Gaby

"Any day now, they'll invent a third good thing" 😂 😥

PhilosophyTube

Yeah, I added that little section at the start about nomenclature. Added it to the nebula version too. Also corrected an error where I said “constitution” instead of “declaration of independence”

Zachary Yaro

@Josh I must have been distracted or something during that note in the edit; my bad 🤦 I thought maybe it wasn't up on the Nebula version, which was the one I watched last week, but it is there too, so IDK how I forgot it.

OnlyUkeThatMatters

history rhymes, and suckily, history echoes (more and more fucking loudly every year) shitty words and actions of settler colonial monsters and I'm not a good enough writer to parse how the more I learn about how settler colonial "logic" and "philosophy" enable genocidal horrors - both in years past and today - the less I consider "monster" as a dehumanizing word like someone whose actions are inhumane loses their humanity and becomes a monster rather, "monsters" describes those people who were and are willing to act on some of humanity's worst ideas. like a monster is a uniquely human evil anyway, good work, abi

enchantedsleeper

So below Abby said that she made an edit about nomenclature, which means that your memory is probably good and it's been added since the initial Nebula release ^^

chirpycora

"There are still American Indians living in the United States today!" Some of them may even be watching this video! And... maybe cringing a bit at the pronunciation of Potawatomi 😆

Chibigodzilla

Interesting how often Jefferson's take ends up being "Well, the way that we treated these people was abhorrently unjust, so we have to maintain this system of subjugation lest they unleash righteous justice upon us."

PhilosophyTube

Dammit! I knew I’d mess some of the pronunciations up. My apologies - I hope it didn’t detract too much

chirpycora

Oh no worries! Those names are a bit of a minefield in that respect

Sequoia Alexander

lol I was so excited for you new video after you mentioned it in the post mortem and then I realized I watched this on nebula a month ago 😭 great video tho! Watching again. ☺️

Lauren Shear

I love the way you laid all this out. I used to be a historical interpreter in Boston, and it was fascinating and maddening how colonists projected so much onto Indigenous people depending on what their specific worldview chose to highlight. Also very grateful you mentioned Gaza. It would be worth noting that there's been a FAR greater rise in anti-Muslim, anti-Palestinian, and anti-Arab hate crimes. Much reporting around antisemitic hate crimes is still drawn from stats by the ADL, and they are pretty much solely concerned with framing all pro-Palestine speech/action as antisemitism. There are tons of Palestinian AND Israeli scholars you could cite who agree that this history does indeed rhyme.

Zachary Yaro

@EnchantedSleep Ohh, that makes more sense 😅

Amyphist

I don't want to be too annoying about this, because you clearly put a lot of effort into trying to learn the pronunciations for this vid, but I think you got 'My Lai' wrong also...

Amyphist

I liked that little edited aside! Sort of like a visual footnote.