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I know I do it sometimes. When I am around the others from the group during danger, I hesitate and become less confident in myself. Or at least more careful.

I hate these emotions, but at the same time, they are precious to me.

The more I gain, the more afraid I become of losing it all.

I’m sure it will repeat in the future, but for now, I suppress the version of myself who, ever since I returned to the 10th floor, became somewhat careful. I allow a part of me to surface that laughs at these thoughts. Even though, in the end, even that is a part of what makes me me.

I swing my arm, and my vessel behind my back mirrors the motion. A wave of raw mana crashes against the hatchling before it can channel another orb of white lightning. The black halo over the vessel’s head expands in size, and the mana inside of it begins to spin wildly to pull in more mana in the area. All of my scattered mana, all the ambient mana agitated by the nearby Champions, and the mana from group 4.

Then I crash against the hatchling, fighting it for its own mana as well. The tiny hatchling with its cold eyes observes what I do, mimicking me and improving at an incredible pace. Its mana reserves aren’t as big as mine, but it pulls on the ambient mana from the moment it was born to bend it to its will.

It is like drawing in ambient mana is something laughably easy for it. A lesser resource that is child’s play to control. So impure and weak in comparison to the lightning. That tiny body, the bloodline, and whatever mutations and capabilities of that mind allow for that.

But I won’t lose.

I take a step ahead, my vessel turning pitch black. Two golden rings glow where the eyes should be, and pale blue lines mirror on it where many of my scars are. With the body I have, I won’t lose.

Mana bends to my will and flows through my vessel. My mind channels it, and the vessel carries all effects of my traits and passives. The hatchling tries to fight me for it, but it fails.

I steal its mana as well, constantly launching attacks at it that each contain more mana than an average Hell difficulty attendee would possess. These attacks send ripples through the sea surrounding us, causing geysers of water to explode into the air.

Then the little creature looks at my black mana vessel and opens its wings wide. For a moment, its mana pull resists mine. It almost looks like the mana allows it to happen. As if it accepts the hatchling's control over it lovingly. An orb forms in front of it and begins to compress. Tricolored, bright white, back to blue, then to one with a white and golden core. It continuously shifts and channels it all, switching between all levels of compression with such ease that it astounds me.

But it fails every time. No matter how hard it tries, that mana doesn't compress to the point of becoming black.

Those eyes turn even colder and a dozen projectiles, almost fully mimicking Empyrean Lances, form all around it.

A pulse of my black mana shoots ahead, and the area loses most of its colors. Before the projectiles can even launch, they all break into shiny white and golden particles that swirl in the air, spinning and swimming in the currents toward my vessel that takes them all.

When it comes to mana, I don’t think my body and mind lose that much to this thing.

[Focus - lvl 78 > Focus - lvl 79]

Signatures of the group around me fade and become just a source of information as my mind estimates how much of the attacks and the pressure the hatchling generates I should block and how much they can deal with.

I find myself capable of focusing on attacking the hatchling quite a bit, only sometimes jumping in to help out the others. I filter the mana my black mana devours to allow them to use their own, and their primordial energies and fragments continue to bombard the hatchling.

Stones are torn from the island and launched high up to fall down like meteors. The flames burst forth, as well as the primordial lightning. Somewhere Sophie enters thought acceleration and, within that space, prepares an attack she launches in combination with the twins.

Maya, in her armor, after attacking, moves aside just as Blackie charges in. In a way, he is similar to this hatchling, quickly improving and now let off the leash, he controls the body of the dead champion much better.

Meanwhile, Biscuit is on the back of the island sniffing the air coming from the west, and amounts of primordial energy I haven't sensed from him before begin to gather as he is preparing for something.

My surge of kinetic energy ripples through the air as I throw it at Blackie, but it rebounds toward me, instantly far more powerful. I grab it and fling it back again, only for the same thing to happen, the force building much higher with each exchange. And as always, I simply channel it.

I narrow it to a needle point, then compress it further until it is as thick as my wrist. It tears toward the hatchling with a sound like the sky itself is crying out. The sheer friction of so much energy moving at that speed makes it generate heat, as if the air is on the verge of igniting.

It almost matches the speed of the railgun attack Tess launches from her ring. Both of these attacks hit one after another, Tess’s making a hole and mine breaking the barrier and barely missing the hatchling. No, rather than missing, it seems like the space around the creature twists and makes it miss.

The hatchling screams again and flies to the side as Blackie reaches it, shooting white lightning at the dead demon in an attack that throws Blackie away, and every time his body bounces on the ground, more kinetic energy shoots from him.

As with the shout before, there is that feeling like an entire planet shakes, as if we stand on a gigantic glacier that cracks deep under our feet. That feeling continues to become more and more prominent, like it’s about to open and either swallow us or worse, release something that was never meant to wake.

My black mana turns into multiple orbs that float around me, each shooting ahead and stretching into the shape of a barrier segment to block lightning attacks the hatchling continues to shoot. It starts slowly, with one attack every second, but then it begins to speed up. It becomes two lightning attacks per second. Then five. Then ten. The hatchling’s lightning rains down at us at high speed while I channel, concentrate, and move my mana at the same matching speed. Just a slight miscalculation, and that lightning would pass through, killing someone on the ground.

That fact only makes my mind calmer, and the hatchling doesn't even get to pull on any of the mana in the area. Any mana of its own gets disrupted the moment it leaves the body.

All of it is mine.

[Eclipse - lvl 69 > Eclipse - lvl 70]

[Current - lvl 45 > Current - lvl 46]

[Current - lvl 46 > Current - lvl 47]

Just as Blackie crashes against it, the hatchling calls again. The voice spreads much wider, and the tremors instantly become more powerful.

Then the entirety of the sky changes color from blue to white, while the clouds instead turn a dark blue. Everything becomes painfully clear in that lighting.

Both of my eyes sizzle in their sockets under the overwhelming amount of information, making me realize that the entirety of the sky is an array, a domain, or something far greater. Something that now surrounds the entire planet.

I use multiple healing marks from Lily, restoring my eyes as I put the glasses back on, just to watch the hatchling under Blackie. He continues to slam at it even as bursts of reflected kinetic energy surround both of them. In one of these, Maya and Aaron are thrown through the sand and boulders of this island.

From the side, Noodle sneaks and shoots ahead, biting into the hatchling and, unlike Blackie, actually piercing the scales. But immediately, he pulls back, jaw wide open, and his body twisting and swirling in pain and spasms. Another kinetic reflection throws him away, where Lily rushes to his side.

Everything turns into a series of explosions, and I use it to channel more mana, preparing projectiles and fighting for mana more actively now that my [Eclipse] is gone.

Then the Weredeer appears.

Out of nowhere, it is here, bipedal, constantly bleeding, and standing on the calm sea under the white sky and blue clouds. Even the hatchling and Blackie go still. Everyone stands frozen in terror, unable to move.

In the face of how crazy this situation is, I find myself able just to exhale and smile. It wasn't that bad of a run, I think, as I sweep my gaze over the place and people around me.

Then I take a step, and only I move through that pressure. My vessel moves closer, putting its hands on my shoulders, and the black halo expands even further. My Empyrean Blood circulates much faster as I force it to, and that movement of such pure mana strengthens that field even further, allowing me to grasp mana inside of my body.

The Weredeer turns away from the hatchling to me.

The sky becomes even purer white, and somewhere on a distant part of the planet, a roar similar to the hatchling's sounds.

A hint of recognition flashes in the eyes of the Weredeer as it looks at me, and it lifts its clawed arm and swings in an attack that tears rifts into space itself with those claws.

***

I find myself somewhere entirely else. A small patch of forest. Grass on a small, gently sloped hill with a tree on the top and a few more trees around on the continuing patch of grass. Everything else beyond that and around that is a neverending white space with no clear walls or ceiling or floor.

I sit there, my back resting against the tree with Biscuit on my lap. He looks just as I remember him from the first floor. When I think of it, isn't the forest the same as well? It makes me remember exactly this moment, one of those quiet ones where I found time to get away from everything, together with this wallet stealing corgi.

Automatically, I reach down and pet Biscuit’s head, enjoying the feeling of his fur under my hand.

"I guess we aren't dead and this isn't the afterlife, right?" I ask gently.

(Not dead.) The corgi lifts his head, and behind his eyes, I see his primordial energy more clearly than ever before.

"Biscuit, did you copy my lame Thought Acceleration attempts and create this?"

(Can do. Bond.)

"I see."

Even with what is happening outside, I don't panic and instead trust this corgi. But there is that faint tension in my chest that makes it harder to breathe. From his feelings, I begin to understand.

I allow myself a few seconds of silence.

(Will help,) He says.

"You know you don't have to."

(Want.)

"There is no way there won't be consequences."

(Doesn't matter.)

I open my mouth to say something against that, but I can't find anything to say. Instead, I reach down and pull him closer against my chest, putting my arms around him for a long moment where he doesn't move at all and just lets me.

After that moment, he turns around and boops my nose with his front paw. I don't recognize my voice as I say, almost begging, "Don't die. Don't leave me."

(Won't die. Will find again. Friend again... Nathaniel.)

Someone sobs, and then the thought acceleration disappears.

Out of nowhere, Biscuit stands in front of me, facing the Weredeer with his primordial energy blazing powerfully as never before.

It devours the Weredeer's attack.

It devours the space in front of the Weredeer, causing it to disappear somewhere far away.

It devours our bond, cutting it off entirely.

It devours a hole into the structure of the tutorial itself.

And Biscuit disappears.

Next Chapter

Comments

Chase

See now I’m traumatized

Tiarnaria

NOOOOO BISCUIT MY FUTURE ABSOLUTE

Dr Strider

I swear of biscuit isn’t okay I will kill everyone in this room and then myself

Lizy Flore

I’m currently cursing anyone who wanted a member of group four to die. Curse you. Happy now ? You have what you wanted. Curse. You.

Nemesis

Biscuit! Nooooooo!

Nemesis

Biscuit: I am, and forever will be, your friend 🥲

I Is Patron

Fuck man. I'm crying here. Not Biscuit!!!

Sadyix

Envy, I really hope you try to mess with Liss as soon as possible.

Nemesis

On a more serious note, did Biscuit just eject that monstrosity and himself from the tutorial? That is not good

Opal

D:

Fdrugc

Tftc did the hachling create the aray that's as big as the sky?

Levi

Little fella finally got a floor ten tutorial treat, definitely wasn't expecting him to eat the floor though.

Baelmoul

WTF happened here? BISCUUUITTTT!! .. is it thursday today?

Nerø

OH NO BISCUITTTT!!😭

ChildConsumerServices

Oh a new chapters out!? Yay! Lemme jus- oh... oh thats my 2nd favourite character leaving the story for an indeterminate amount of time

quiet

Cerim you are ngmi. I don't know if I should hate you or love you for creating this masterpiece.

Aoth the Arcane

Tuesday....2 more chapters this week. But God is this brutal, I don't want a cliff

Aoth the Arcane

Tuesday....2 more chapters this week. But God is this brutal, I don't want a cliff

TheOne320

I really wonder what the official name for that primordial energy is.

Tercius

No how coud you O.O ???

Irithyll

Nah, it's probably just a planet-sized dragon mama

ChildConsumerServices

So far the hatching can only copy stuff so unless there was a massive array just lying around ready to be copied... I doubt it

Riot89

Biscuit... Mans only true best friend. This was always how it was going to be.

ChildConsumerServices

Also?? "a roar similar to the hatchling's sounds." Are litterally both of the things I said last chapter going to come true??

River

Well looks like Gluttony may want to consider a new job as even the Absolutes that we've seen don't seem to be able to randomly tear holes in the tutorial. That's Ruler level power(or at least absolute's who are their equivalent)

Tyler Engelke

Biscuit isn't dead. I feel like that was made pretty clear. The consequence is that biscuit is now alone somewhere outside the tutorial.

Edmund Dillon

Loaf of bread will be missed😭😭, he can have all the deer he wants when he gets back!!

Claro reyes

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Matthew Walter

a rollercoaster of emotions 5min apart

Kyle

Thank you for the small mercy of not timing this chapter for the end of the week. Biscuit will be missed. The rest of Group 4 will have to stop slacking now that they don't have their future Absolute to rely on.

Augustus

Noooooooooo!!!!! Cerim do not dare have any thing bad happen to the fluffball!!!

Psyren1596

Biscuit 😱😱😱😱😱

Lizy Flore

The emotional impact is the same as if he was dead. He sacrificed himself for group four, and it shook the MC to his core. Besides, anyone who wants a character to die just for death’s sake truly doesn’t understand what story-telling is about. When a death - or its equivalent - happens, it has to hurt. It has to have meaning, and that’s why cerim went for Biscuit who is the most beloved. That’s also why killing one of the twins, Min-Jae, Maya or - gods forbid - Sophie, would be stupid. Edit - rereading, I realise that the tone I used is very agressive, didn’t do it on purpose, sorry 😅

Adrian Rake

I suppose that selling of plushie Biscuits will rise even more. 😉👍😂

KDBA

Sustenance.

anakin hanson

If he did where do you think they ended up

Terri Harris

Ahhh, that sucks. Im sure gonna miss him. Best doggo ever!

CipherFTW

NOOOOOOOO BISCUIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Idk how I feel about this. I never liked biscuit. Mainly because what was a joke in the earlier book (not even a funny one most of the time) just got glazed and memed too much by the fans, and cerim let himself be caught by the flow. If he is ( and was all along) that op and much stronger then nat, it would retcon pretty much every event from book 1-5. And remove tension on top of a slew of other problems. Recently, we started to have biscuit feats, but... they were too nonsensical and it was too late. Too late being the main thing. So I know he's really strong, when he ate the champion dear, when he ate the parasite (hopefully it wasn't the absolute parasite. I don't remember. I think not. ). Even then, affecting the tutorial is ridiculous. It seems he'll be send to space somewhere, fighting the dear, but again, surviving that too is ridiculous. It really is just a joke of "Mister Bean can beat superman" that then started being treated seriously 6+ books in. === The same problem with Luna and Lecita. Pet jokes were made serious, but then just completely forgotten about. They were introduced to be so much better then nat, and people thought: Wow, their mana manip must be level 70-80 ~72-73, while nat was barely 55. And they got left in the fucking dust. And then never proceeded to show any feat or being consistent with what their introduction accounted for. And the thing is, whatever level of strength biscuit has right now, I can tell you, once nat and other major character reach that level, they will be nowhere near doing stuff like fucking arround with the tutorial. Even if his PE has a compatibility boost. === At the end of the day, the pet joke just became mary sues. People in the comment are saying, wow, ruler level feat. Fucking nonsensical. Rulers are talented as fuck. And they are like 1000s of years old. Biscuit has 3 years of experience. You don't get more mary sue then that. Everyone likes him. If you don't, you are secretly a bad guy, he's secretly the best and coolest. And again, we have never seen biscuit actually do insane training nor be taught by really powerful being, nor push himself to the point of bleeding from his brain and having all his bones grounded to dust. Even if he has had some moments recently, again, thats like 5 or 6 books of biscuit doing fuckall, and then by book 7, poof, he's mary sue. === And no, I won't use gary stue. A gary stue at least puts a ton of visible effort ajd other shit to get there.

Shay

Noooooooooo

DANDAN THE DANDAN

Worried that you will miss the best doggo of the wider universe? Well worry not! For the fine price of $30, you too can get your own Biscuit plush! Step right up and boop your own doggo!

Arnon Parenti

The Ruler of Ruler has deemed this Weredeer Food and has eaten the quest reward, with the floor quest no longer viable a new floor quest has been issued, survive for one minute.

Woodstock179

┻━┻︵ \(°□°)/ ︵ ┻━┻

Vik221

Yup ur right. Cerim needs to explain that how is biscuit so powerful.

Florin Cojocaru

A certain side story ( the Biscuit that never was ) comes to mind. Thank you!

Tiarnaria

TRUE WHAT WAS I THINK HE'D ONLY BE A LOWLY ABSOLUTE, SUCH BLASPHEMY

Drunkgnome

Beyond, near Liss maybe. I’d love to see her compare him to the noble ladies’ pets.

Arnon Parenti

Biscuit knows the coordinates of a dead Elador, no problem getting there

Manaless

Man was in the office when he was reading this. I almost cried, don't do that to Biscuit Cerim.

Arnon Parenti

Did Biscuit just cut the Bond with Nathaniel so he can Bond with the stupid Wyvern Baby? That's replacing a Bond with an Absolute with a Bond with a whiney whimpering glutton.

Drunkgnome

God damn you Cerim. Damn you straight to hell difficulty. I do like the subtle touch of “someone sobs” very much like Nat to say that.

Aldric

I don’t understand where Biscuits strength come from, memes about it are really fun but that seems really out of context

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Cause even with a compatibility advantage Nat barely gets Low champion feat. Nat is pretty talented, just not insanely talented. He was trained by thr second strongest of all time, his training makes him bleed through his pores 24/7 with emblem restriction, he loses limbs in every fights he's in, his brain and eyes constantly gets fucking melted. And he always pushes himself. It's not that he has such a fight every year. He has one every week! Biscuit has fuckall of that, yet he has High Absolute feat ( and again, we don't even know if his PE gives him compatibility advantages). Talent+ Effort + Training + Danger + Education + Compatibility ~< Low Champion. Dog ~> High Absolute. Maybe Dog + Compatibility ~> High Absolute === Thing is, if we don't make biscuit have a huge power jump as the story actually do, and we give him a curve to get to where he is... When they fought the Ant, The first one, biscuit should have been able to just go down the tunnel, solo every ant on the way, and then kill the first one by himself. Didn't some people die there? Dude died for nothing. I'm sure, at every occasion where someone died, biscuit could have prevented it. In fact, lets just compare: Current biscuit could beat adrian. Which is fucking stupid. What a way to make a timebomb, race against time, major vilain completely defanged! Even if you aren't generous with biscuit feat and only follow the barebones of now "Canon" biscuit glaze, Biscuit > Adrian.

Flo Zilla

pretty sure you got stuff wrong here. I doubt biscuit killed the deer and i doubt his feat is that insane, its just what his primordial energy does. Devour things. Maybe he even has a sacrifice skill that just gave him an energyspike, maybe he stored his energy in a similar way Nat does, just in his own subspace. Biscuit cant do many things Nat does, and Nat cant do what his Devour energy does.

Baramus

It’s his primordial energy. Whatever it is has the conceptual quality of devouring, so regardless of his personal power level, it’s really good at consuming constructs, like the tutorial or his and Nat’s bond. I’m sure this would not translate to offensive measures against a being much stronger than him, and that it was at a great cost to him, similar to devouring the deer on the Mimic floor.

Nimps

Meh I enjoy it. And no I dont think you are a bad guy for disagreeing.

Manaless

You forgot that a champion baby Wyvern was born in past chapters; animals will always be stronger and more talented than humans and other races. And Biscuit's primordial energy is devouring itself, as explained in the chapter.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Biscuit is gone. He didn't disapear. He was sent somewhere, and I don't think he ate the dear and then was teleported. Which means, logically, biscuit and the dear will be teleported together there. It's a literary classic. Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty falling from the falls, Gandalf and the balfrog, I even saw cases of the main character teleporting through a portal, being stuck midway and having a villain follow him, then fuckery happen in the gaye between and the two fights in the space between space and later at the destinations. So yes, someway or another, biscuit will have to confront that dear. Yet Cerim will not kill his shitty little dog. He won't kill the mascot. His love of biscuit just went above and beyound. Ffs, every chapter from book 7 or 8 and up has had a ai generated corgi has the cover. Right about when he actually stopped being ( a joke who could "Woo-- create arms with mana, future absolute, `am i right guys`?" ) and started having nonsensical feats. And yes, eating the dear is also stupid. Even if he has to sleep for a bit after and other bullshit like that.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Bruh. A wyvern is a special race. Dragons are like ~Lissandra and Pride levels. They are litteraly, the most iconic monster of mankind, and probably one of the oldest, made by merging the fear of the three animals human are wired to fear. The 3 greatest predators to humans and their evolutionary ancestors for 10s of millions of years+. And wyvern, are a demo of that. === Biscuit is a corgi. A mid dog.

zoarian

I'm interested to see how it plays out in terms of Nat's character. Biscuit is a representation of his kindness and trust; in a real way Biscuit is his first friend among Group 4. I can imagine Nat turning more savage, or keeping his kindness in memory of Biscuit... Obviously, Biscuit himself will return a la Gandalf the White.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

The mary sue thing is a in story thing. Everyone in the story who dislike mary sue is secretly a bad guy. Because ~she's so nice and perfect <3~. (Though some insane people also say that applies beyound the fourth wall : Ie, if you dont like Rey, you are sexist). But I wasn't talking about that. I was just naming in story properties of mary sues. So alls good. It's fine if you like it. For me, biscuit has and will be the greatest stain on this series. (Because he's a major retcon and lore break)

андрей ткач

Bro no its distancce and as i understand cori finish his learning leason.

Vik221

Guys I have theory, system tutorial was built with the base of beyond - so may be biscuit will be transported to one of the lower floors of beyond like floor 7 or 8 of beyond. Then when nat explores those floors best doggo of beyond will be there to meet him

Adrian Rake

You are overcomplicating everything. Firstly, Biscuit is not a human. It is a monster from a new planet being integrated into the System. Who knows what rules apply in the System for new species. One day it could be weak, another day as strong as an Absolute. Who knows and who cares? 🤷🏼‍♂️ The reason why cerim did what he did with Biscuit is very simple: we are dealing with a maniacal author who loves surprising and shocking the readers. But, what is even more important, cerim is a businessman. His plushies weren’t selling well. So, he did the only logical thing, he added value to plushies crowning Biscuit as a Legend, a myth who saved others from death. „The hero of 10th floor”. So, his death or possible putting it on hold, is your fault readers. By the way, I think that cerim is a brillant and very tallented writer and seller. 😉🥇

Alex O'Connor

We should’ve seen this coming, because there’s no way a deer is going to appear before biscuit and not get eaten😂😂

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Also, if biscuit is so great, why was greed being like, oh no, its fucked, you have to go there right now and save your group. (Maybe you could argue it wasn't that nat was needed, but that was merely an efficient way to send the information of " get the egg now". ) === And also, this is one I wanted to add to my firsr messaage. Biscuit went past nats mental security, and pulled him inside a mindspace, with a time compressed to the max, then he talks with nat for like 30s of compressed time, then he teleport in front of nat, then he attack the weredear, and did all of that in an instant. WHILE A BEYOUND SPACE ABSOLUTE LEVEL ATTACK WAS COMING NATS WAY.

conkerer

I feel like this is less of a pure powerscaling thing than Biscuit just messing with the tutorial and causing a glitch through "intended" exploits, like maybe irl this is basically just a forced teleport to near orbit, or the "plane of devouring", but since the intended destination doesn't exist, it just sends him to a random area of the Beyond, with no way to return to Hell Difficulty. Heck maybe it's floor 7 or 8 or something to motivate Nat to get down there to reunite with Biscuit.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Biscuit is a dog. Not a monster. You seem to forget, that the system isn't the one true source of magic and power. Primordial energy existed before it. And I'm pretty sure Mana was the dragons thing. Even if the system had mana, the dragons had it too. Biscuit wouldn't have been a regular abused and weak dog if he was an eldritch monster. What clearly happened, is that biscuit was a regylar dog, but when he encountered the system, he got modified or modified itself. If the system did all the modification, then why does it do so to a dog? And if biscuit did some of it, thenit implies biscuit just soul boosted itself into a monster or eldritch being early on, then again, mary sue level. The original joke was very clearly something amongst the line of, Biscuit modified itself enough that while it looks like a dog, its not a regular dog, and the gap weirded people out.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Cerim is good. I wouldnt be here after so many chapters and years if he wasnt. Biscuit is the one great stain

conkerer

Hmm, I mean we only saw nerfed in-tutorial absolute replicas in the tutorial, not real ones, and the one time we did with lissandra she literally did do that with zero effort.

Immanuel Medina

So this is why you dropped the Biscuit plush

Bandit General

People in the comments going crazy over biscuit. But what I want to know is? did nat lose the ability to do black mana now, because biscuit devoured their bond.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

A "tutorial" glitch is a ruler or high absolute level feat. The tutorial is not so young and simple that you can truly cheat it out using itself. Heres an example: If you have a teleportation ticket (X stay token or other stuff), then "abusing it" is using it at a smart moment. But you aren't gonna make it do something different then what it says on the can. A glitch would be to make the ticket multi use, apply to multiple person, or change its destination. And thats a near ruler level feat.

Some bloke

Why would he lose his ability to do black mana I don’t think nat being able to create black mana is related to his bond with biscuit ?

AL

What if Biscuit devoured space until reaching LissLIss on The 12th Beyond Floor?

Monster M

The series builds up this really strict, almost "untouchable" power hierarchy for Champions (and even higher tiers like Absolutes or Rulers), where even top-tier people like Nat's group, Christopher (the ex-Absolute who climbed insanely fast in ~3–4 years), or others get bodied or humbled when facing them. Then suddenly Biscuit (the corgi) starts pulling off stuff that feels like it breaks that scaling, especially when it comes to "absolute attacks" or just casually being OP in ways that seem to outpace Adrian or even some Champion-level threats.

Rakharun

What the actual???!!!

AL

I don't think Black mana is related to Biscuit. Black mana is ***************

ForgottenDreams

Heavily implied he's a one state enjoyed since he only ever dkes mana/ PE stuff.

Budgie

Agree

ForgottenDreams

How the fuck was Luna and Leticia supposed to be better than nat??

Subliminary

His black mama is a result of Focus not their bond???

Snekky

Wonder tho how many Rulers will fall after Nat reach Master of Pride

Bandit General

My friend, I thought it was a mixture of focus, nat ability to channel, and his bond. I been thinking what if black mana is a, copy of devour that’s weaker, that only target mana, because of nats love of it and fear of losing it. It would explain why event diligence who is a copycat can’t do it, it would also explain why lisslis a monster can’t do it, and why a wyvern can’t do it too. Because they don’t have the bond to which they have black mana

River

Yep but she's classified as Ruler equivalent in power given that she killed a ruler while fighting others during her move from the tutorial to the lower beyond floors

Subliminary

Seemingly yes and it’s really lame IMO. Unless he secretly became an Absolute day 1 of the tutorial there’s no way for him to have powers that rival Rulers

RJ Barnes

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AND WHY DO I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS

Lance Beam

TFTC. Oh f*ck!! Biscuit?!

Al

I think that is the question they’re asking. We still don’t have a confirmed reason why Nat can make black mana where almost no one else can. One theory is it is tied to his bond with Biscuit.

Lance Beam

I respect your view about Biscuit but vehemently disagree.

Vithusan Algumalai

Am I reading this wrong, or does Biscuit devour the space in front of the deer, not the deer ?

Bobbs

NOT BISCUIT!!!!!!!

Miranoji

Hold up! Isnt Liss on a Beyond Floor with a Wyvern theme? Our bestest Doggo can leave a mark on Nat like Liss did.. What if he devoured some sort of tunnel to Beyond and brought him and the Weredeer to Liss?

Midy

Or, Biscuit is in the Real World and Liss should have stayed with him if she wanted out !

NatXLily

this is lilys chance to get nat!

Liam Zay

Primordial hunger?

Auraelis

Not the best doggo of the tutorial.... [Gone] Don't do this to us :'(

PDHABigDaddy

The 22 more hours til the next chapter are going to be hell

Manny

Biscuit sacrificed to cast a high level CounterBanish spell

QuestiGoose

Basically teleports it away by deleting the space around it

John

Can someo e expain to me again, why absolutes are stronger than Champions? Seems like the only thing a champion needs to do, is bound with a planet. so maybe this gives a boost, but it feels illogical to have morelevels or better skills because of this...

ariel maoz

I must say I really don't know how to feel, the thing that made me like the series so much was the fact that he got powerscaling nailed down very good, which is so rare to do good, when I say champion you know what to expect, same with absolute, same with level 380 vs 300 vs 250 I love the biscuit is absolute joke and I love biscuit, but this is absurd! THE MAGI said he can cut the connection for a week or two at most and he is the most talented mana user there is, fucking liss had to flee from the tutorial grasp and take the hearts of attendees to escape And you want to tell me the system aint gonna drag his cute dog ass back to the tutorial? And all of this BEFORE we even begin to talk about the fact that he devoured an ABSOLUTE LEVEL attack which at best breaks every major fight to this point and at worst just breaks powerscaling as a whole I just really don't know of cerim thought about the consequences all the way through on this one, bit saying it was not an epic chapter, but i feel this will be one of the most controversial ones for the time being

Auraelis

But Biscuit didn't have a bond with Nat on the 3rd floor where Nat created the black mana dagger...

Roy Mathews

All the biscuit comments lol. I don’t think biscuit is more op than Nat. The what if Biscuit story kinda explains biscuits primordial energy as a skill devour. It is a op skill that grows on a different scale. That said I think Biscuit does something to space and not the deer possibly removing both from tutorial

Ansordia

Sure... You are kinda right but remember Biscuit did this with severe consequences... He might even go through a phoenix reincarnation through Nats bond similarly to how other series handled deaths of bonds... Also he didn't kill it... He teleported it away using esoteric ways... That shouldn't break the power ceiling as it totally acceptable that the weredeer isn't ready for something like that... Also Biscuit disciple already has told us that Biscuits type of primordial and other powers are so unqiue that she doesn't even have those only her grandfather or something.... That should be an insane indication that through all of the system domain Biscuit wasn't able to get a disciple with matching powers ... Because its so fucking rare. What I think happened is that Biscuit tore a hole in the tutorial to either Beyond OR the real world and Adrian has to kill the weredeer... Or if he is lucky it dies to system fuckery as its unable to leave the tutorial as it hasn't gone through the stenous process of becoming an Atendee like Liss has.... Also its super funny that Liss could have escaped using Biscuit ...

TK Jack

Damn, this is a twist

Ansordia

My thoughts is that He left the tutorial to the real world ... And either Adrian needs to kill the weredeer or the weredeer ceases to exist as it hasn't gone through the neasarry steps to not be deleted by the tutorial.

Nemesis

Bah, good riddance to him! Now Zoidberg will be the popular one!

JTP

You son of a bitch.

Ansordia

I wonder which is it... A/ Biscuit teleported weredeer to beyond, and thus the rulers killed it to respect the rules of beyond... B/ Biscuit teleported to REAL world and system fuckery destroyed the weredeer, C/ he ate the weredeer and the space around it.. And intentionally or not ate himself it aswell... How he returns is weird... First I thought a vague sense of the bond remains and he will respawn through Nat like Lissandra did through Hadrian. But if the bond is broken ... I have no idea... Maybe he believes he gets saved by the Rulers ? I am sadly unable to anticipate Cerims next step... But I am fairly sure he will return with either everything Nat has seen and experienced or as a baby bornanew... Maybe timestop like in BATE

arnumart

These is obviously a ploy to sell more biscuit plushies, if not enough are bought cerium will permanently kill off biscuit.

Yells@Clouds

This chapter hit the emotional notes perfectly, but I’m in line with everyone else who said it was an absurd feat and not in keeping with any of the story lore we’ve seen to this point. I’m finding myself mostly feeling annoyed rather than sad or shocked as a result

Bartek W.

While I agree to some extent, remember that skill levels are even more important that the levels. Iirc Lyss killed absolutes on 8th floor being much lower level than them. There are most likely more than one reason, but i think the most important one is the skill levels. What if Biscut has a rly high lvl skill and a primordial energy that combines well with it? He ate a champion few floors before. Maybe now he can eat even the weredeer. Plus the weredeer isn't rly alive some he might be more prone to being teleported and stuff like that bcs he isn't actively fighting against it.

ariel maoz

I 'think' when absolute starts he is just a very strong champion ( the strongest of that planet ) but after he becomes an absolute and initiates pairings he absorbs the sparks of the plantes he defeated, the more pairing he survives, the stronger him and the planet are + the levels, probably fragments etc of the planets he conquered, and while maybe not absorbing every fragment to himself, they have a very high value and can probably commission high pristine ( or higher levels if they exist ) items

RJ

I swear if anything bad happens to biscuit I will drop this Novel and hate review it until my fingers fall off.

Heraclitus

I know he's going to show up in like 100 chapters riding on the head of a galaxy sized wolf or something, but how dare you. Monster.

ariel maoz

Yeah but that just proves my point about the power scaling no? Liss is ANCIENT, like REALLY ancient, even for the time period the 2nd floor is in, biscuit? He just started his 3rd year in the TUTORIAL, never encountered mana before the tutorial, and he can devour an absolute attack? Just doesn't make any sense unless he is like Pride reincarnation

Andrew

Thank you!

Heraclitus

It's also been implied, and just confirmed this chapter, that his bond with Nate allows him to crib a lot of Nate's gains and skills.

Monster M

My problem or this feeling is that the story spends so much time hammering home how massive the gap is between "normal" high-level people and Champions/Absolutes (Christopher's fast climb to candidate-level in ~3–4 years is already treated as freakish talent + Hell difficulty cheese), yet Biscuit starts casually no-selling or countering things that should require that tier of power. If Biscuit can just break absolute attacks or outscale Adrian in certain moments, it does make you go "wait, then why couldn't Christopher one-shot a Champion or something?" It risks making the power ladder feel inconsistent or arbitrary.

Bartek W.

That still can make some sense. He cannot fight them, he is not more durable, he isn't faster. But he is good at eating and he did just that. I guess we will have to wait for future chapters to see how and if it makes sense.

Bandit General

Yes, he did, nat was offer a class for bonding, when nat had his first class selection in the first floor

Gutz

They didn't even try to fight it in their despair ? Come on.

John

Hmm, but then it could be that a champion is level 700 and a absolute is level 470 on a planet where no other(or strong) champions exist.

Majulla

IMO he sacrificed the bond, as it had more value than himself.

Nathan Holliday

First of all. No! How dare you threaten Biscuit! Second, it is BS if Biscuit just straight ate the weardeer. For him to do anything stresses the lore to the breaking point.

Heraclitus

People really need to understand that while Biscuit is obviously very powerful, whatever he did he was not normal for him. It wasn't something he could casually do because he's just that busted and overpowered and can easily break the setting just because it's funny for a little dog to stunt all over things. Whatever he did here, was some kind of sacrificial, over-clocking, only at last resort, type of action. We don't know the exact details, but I assume it's the thematic equivalent of Lily doing something absolutely bonkers by sacrificing half her memories and remaining lifespan. A massive power-up that is technically possible, but only at severe cost and consequences.

Mateusz Lokś

He rarely writes comments, but this time I have to. I don't know what to think about this chapter. I have ambivalent feelings, I'll see how it ends, so far I'm a bit disappointed

Auraelis

What are you talking about ?!

Nathan Holliday

Nat’s ability to create black mana is connected to his focus. It has nothing to do with biscuit.

frozzi

Even Lissy couldn't break tutorial, and some random Corgi does that after 3 years of tutorial on a whim? Honestly this was ultra level of a plot armor and feels like pure asspull out of nowhere It was such a perfect opportunity to show that there is stakes in the story and Nat can be punished for his stupid ideas for once, but naah deus ex machina known as Biscuit exist..Wonder why he didn't just ate Pride and called it a day

Asekhan

I think it's both because of the link with the planet, and the fact that any champions strong enough would challenge them, resulting in the strongest at the top

Nathan Holliday

So tomorrow Nat has to face the baby Wyvern and possibly its mother too! That hour better be ticking down because if the baby is that powerful group 4 doesn’t stand a chance against its mom.

TBONEMAN

It one shot an absolute. There is no fighting this thing when Nat cant solo a champion yet.

TBONEMAN

Biscuit is going to become a were dog probably.

Xion

It literally says "It devours the space INFRONT of the weredeer, causing it to DISSAPEAR SOMEWHERE far away". Also it would break lore at all, matchups matter and if biscuit is using a boost or suicide attack with much higher output it wouldnt be strange for him to manage something like this.

ChildConsumerServices

??Biscuit so clearly didnt devour the Weredeer, "It devours the space in front of the Weredeer, causing it to disappear" just ate the space infront of the deer and then made a hole in the tutorial. If id have to guess since the deer and him are now outside of the tutorial the rulers(probably Ruby) would be able intervene and save him

Marshall

Many people have focus but don’t have black mana. When noodle got a fragment Izzy got a fire upgrade so we know the bond can enhance skills. It is plausible that Nat got his black mana(devouring mana!) upgrade from the bond with the devouring beast known as biscuit.

ChildConsumerServices

Jeeze reading comprehension curse strikes the HDT fandom with all these people saying that Buscuit ate the Weredeer when it so clearly says the space infront of the Weredeer was devoured not the deer itself 😭

Primo

Not sure why people saying Biscuit is too OP, like he literally ate a champion on the 6th floor, he ate something that could take over a champion on the 7th,he is the only one while training that Lissandra the perfectionnist monster approved of, his minion was as strong as nat at the time he summoned him, put some respect on the best doggo of the 10th floor & his sacrifice for his friends (and no I'm not crying 😭)

Gwiddion

It has to be a planet that had a tutorial. So they would have to fight of challenges to that title. But yes in essence there are probably champions out there at the strength of weaker absolutes. I'd wager that Tristan from lissandras floor was one of those.n

facetiousk

All I'm going to say, is that if you're genuinely upset about how powerful Biscuit's PE is, you might not have been paying attention to the story in the way that you think you have been. Especially when it comes to the duality of his PE. It is incredibly rare and his mastery of it is broken, but the cost to drawing on it too much is also repeatedly acknowledged. This further emphasizes the significance of his actions in this moment. Also, what's tearing a hole in space really worth these days? Even Noble Ladies' pets have better control than that. Wake up, sheople!!!

Monster M

My last comment for this chapter. We’ll see how the next one will be. People are defending Biscuit, saying that there are consequences, but we don’t know how severe they will be if there will be any at all. And again: if Cerim can write that the corgi can stop an absolute attack and damage part of the tutorial, then what’s stopping him from, I don’t know, writing that Tess or Sophie can stop absolute attacks but with some consequences? That’s why this chapter feels wrong. It was supposed to be about Biscuit’s sacrifice and how it affects Group 4 and Nat, but now it’s become “Wait, the best absolute meme wasn’t a meme” and it completely ruins the moment.

facetiousk

Who's excited about Wickthaniel popping off tomorrow, huh?!

Yvng Dante

To be fair the only stupid idea they had leading to this particular scenario was going to see the lycan, everything else was not even close to something they could reasonably predict, they have no idea how any of the interactions that lead to this even work and frankly the fact that the deer is absolute tier is a bigger wtf than this happening because how the hell?. Other than that tho the only actual mistake after that point was leaving the scales next to the egg, and that can't technically be assigned to Nat since that technically wasn't his duty or job in this situation.

ariel maoz

Biscuit minion is ABSOLUTELY NOT on nats level what are ypu ok about??? He lost to one of the other group 4 minions ( o Sophie's I think ), he ate a near dead champaion with no muscles left only a bare skeleton + weakened a lot ( nat could take the mana champion 1v1 probably ), and the entire point of the thing from floor 7 was that it was weak so it couldn't be detected??? That was like the whole premise of that thing, now from there to EAT THE FUCKING TUTORIAL FABRIC??? A thing that liss had to sacrifice herself and still couldn't do completely?, a thing THE MAGI, the best mana manipulator outside the system, said he couldn't do for nat for more than a week maybe two?

Ivan Jelenić

Yes, there are weaker and stronger absolutes.

Ivan Jelenić

I feel the Ruler chat's going to go *ping* *ping* *ping* wild.

Zard

Awesome chapter. Did not see that coming. Let’s go biscuit! Biscuit saves the day!

Zard

Dude you might be on to something.

Kenny

It doesn't really make sense here. We saw Lissandra try to escape from a tutorial floor on the second but couldn't see it. On the 3rd she could now see and it took her months to escape. Then on floor 9 we see the Lycan try to force his way out and fails, losing his hands. Then comes our 3rd year tutorial attendee Biscuit who carves his way out first try

ChildConsumerServices

Okay wow a lot to unpack in this reply here so here we go. He could very well be on Nats level, he has a mysterious primordial energy we dont know the name of and is very difficult to defend against as it can just devour everything in its path, Nat could most definitely NOT take the mana champ on a 1v1 (something Cerim said himself as Nat needed to focus on stealing the champs mana completely while Morwag and friends beat the crap outta the champ), and complaining about master mana manipulators not being able to do the same thing as very rare primordial energy is like being mad your oven doesn't make ice cream like huh? Theyre two different types of energy? The tutorial (and system by extension) doesn't operate on mana otherwise skilled mana users like Liss and the Magi would be able to run circles around the system with no consequence, just because they are powerful doesn't mean they're not constricted by there own skills. Okay im sure i forgot something but yap over

Gutz

well that absolute didn't even fight... She just... Died.

Sauce Master

"RAGGY I MUST" BUT LIKE, SCOOB, IF YOU DO IT, YOU MIGHT..... "I KNOW RAGGY, I WILL RETURN...... SCOOBY SNACK?" Yeah Scoob, I wont let anyone eat them "Rank you Raggy, SCOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOBY DOOOOOO! *Scooby beings to eat space time and layers of reality*

ProfessorCat

Just a few observations: 1. Biscuit was prepared for the weredeer and probably ran to be in front of Nat the moment it appeared. 2. It was explicitly stated that the thought acceleration thing is a result of their bond. Not to mention, Biscuit can communicate so much information that it is one of his attacks, and Nat definitely accepts all messages from Biscuit no questions asked. 3. Noodle managed to hold on to the wyvern egg for hours in addition to a lot of high rarity items. Biscuit who is unequivocally superior applying his top-tier skills with prep time and total disregard for the consequences can manage a split second against the weredeer. 4. The weredeer is still a champion. A max level champion with the mind of a top-tier absolute/future ruler, but a champion nonetheless (the remaining champions are fighting over the title, so it hasn't been claimed yet). And though it seemed effortless, I doubt that they aren't at least disoriented from the future ruler of lust. Not to mention, he is a bleeding and heavily wounded reanimated dusk deer that has been empowered by only 4 fingers. 5. Due to the mention of consequences and them being sent away, it is likely that Biscuit used the system in some way. This isn't impossible because we know that Biscuit's PE is extraordinarily rare, and so is the situation he's found himself in and the way he is resolving it. It is something that the system probably never dealt with before, and therefore wasn't banned. It took the sand from the 6th floor killing a whole bunch of attendees for it to be forbidden from beyond. 6. The way that banishment was worded, there are still a lot of things left unclear. What does it mean that the weredeer was sent somewhere far away BEFORE Biscuit disappeared? Why did he devour the bond? If he left to beyond, why does it sound like he is going to be gone for a long time? There is so much that we don't know. Cerim is probably going to enlighten us on at least a few of these things tomorrow, so have faith in his writing and world building. Everything is probably going make much more sense tomorrow. (Edited to space things out and mention weredeer injuries)

Jay

Setting aside the Waredeer, did Biscuit just exit the tutorial?

Kirin

Thank you for the chappie! BISCUIT NOOOOOO

karmaslap

It's chapter 800 and we've been told repeatedly and shown repeatedly that Biscuit is next level. He ate a champion floors ago when Nat still could barely handle a sealed champion heart. Did you not pay any attention to the story? Tess and Sophie have not had literally 3 years of foreshadowing

Ian Rodden

Dang cerim woke up and chose violence with the cliff hangers and now biscuit this week :(

karmaslap

800 chapters of constant "biscuit is insanely talented" both straight up told to us and shown to us over and over, and you say this doesn't fit? Bisctuit didn't even one shot the absolute, he just moved it elsewhere. What's crazy here?

Kaladorph

Im guessing a pocket realm related to his PE. Like jjk. I think we dont understand the PE at all. We know its related to consumption. We dont know anything about biscuits training or skills. Its probably one of those special things thats always trying to consume him and so he has to constantly get better at controlling it or die. Like that one chicks blood.

Mark Bullock

Cerims fucking amazing writing has made me feel like an incompetent writer!!! Your imagination to always take it a step deeper is impressive!

M Schweibold

Story is fantastic and hits the right notes, Cerim is rocking it!!

Kenny

Disagree with the take Biscuit is OP so this makes sense. We have seen multiple pinnacle absolutes fail to detect they are in the tutorial, or escape from their floors. Every time he is transported Nat always tries to detect how it is done and fails, etc. Now we see that Biscuit can cut out of the tutorial, surely he can't sense the structure of the place if Nat can't, and if it is pure power then surely one of the many champion battles or Lissandra's Singularity could have damaged the fabric of the floors. This feels like it does not match the power scaling, Biscuit being a special meme aside this is some Mary Stu level of plot armor. Clearly the Wyvern is still going to be an issue, so the gang still has to figure out a non plot-breaking escape still, so this one feels extra unnecessary.

Yshua

Biscuit no

Malkym Lesdrae

Biscuit's self sacrificial everything attack managed to open a hole in the tutorial and move the weredeer, fending off a single initial casual attack. The weredeer, for example before killing the Princess Absolute, has a pattern of playing around first. I don't see any lore violation.

Malkym Lesdrae

Biscuit is strong vs deer, like Nat is strong vs mana users. No one complained when Nat fended off Champion level attacks on the 5h floor.

Micken

The difference is that Biscuit is not a entity created by the tutorial. I imagine rules are not the same.

Malkym Lesdrae

It makes perfect sense. Characters that are part of the tutorial are designed to not see or understand it and therefore can't escape easily or at all. Biscuit is not part of the tutorial in the same way he is real. There's never been an issue for creatures outside of the tutorial

TBONEMAN

Technically there was an alternate universe story where biscuit broke the tutorial on floor 2

Primo

1st he was at nat level at the time he was summoned which is during the first tournament while every other minion was weak as fuck not now obviously, and he was playing with other minions not even taking them seriously during the last tournament, 2nd Biscuit is not a fake like liss so there are different constraints applied to them no matter how strong she is, and the magi is already outside of the tutorial and not an attende or a ruler with benefits to influence the tutorial so it makes no sense to compare, yes we are all shoked he could pull this off yet I think a combination of something akin to a sacrifice (he probably ate his bond with nat, i'd say the most precious thing to him to power this up and save his friends, we already saw what happened when nat clone pulled the impossible by sacrificing his memories on 5th floor) + his specialized energy doesn't make it impossible and we don't really know what happened tbh but biscuit is not a weakling and the floors are not exactly safe from loopholes as we have been showned multiple time. I still think more clarity will come tho so believe in biscuit too 😅

Nat-Thaniel

I think you're forgetting that when Lissandra met biscuit, she didn't talk shit and only nodded approvingly. Everything with actual power that has met biscuit found themselves a little confused

granndfunk

My guess is somewhere "deeper" in the tutorial, whether in Beyond or in some sort of bulk between the Beyond and Tutorial.

Antony Silva

Why are you guys complaining about Biscuits capabilities? There was so much fucking foreshadowing to this

ariel maoz

i was talking about the mana champion from floor 6* not 7, he and the other champion are severely weakened versions of themselves in the earlier floors

XP_TOPshelf

Biscuit will appear again when they need him most; probably some time during the pairing. Bet he will end up being the absolute.

Kid

Beautiful writing

Hms

So did he just consume the attack and the Weredeer ran off? Disappearing far away when he can just come back in an instant doesnt make sense unless I am misunderstanding this.

Arnon Parenti

Ruby should have trusted Group 4 to kill the Weredeer Food and not mess with Lust's quest

Name1

Since I haven’t seen it mentioned yet - they might have completed the first re-write of the objective with biscuit removing the weredeer, so with the ruler fuckery, they might just have to jump through some portals and avoid the fight with near champion baby wyvern and what is probably an absolute level wyvern mother on the way. They don’t really have anything left to deal with beings that strong so escape is the better option

Name1

Also just not clear what he did. Even the A rank attendee had no problem just teleporting Nat since he specialized in it. Biscuits PE is probably something similar - hyper specialization in one direction to ignore rules at the risk of greater consequences

Hugh Peeble

That will teach me to read at work in a dusty room…

Mega Mike

I love Biscuit. I really do. But this is where Hell Difficulty Tutorial officially jumped the shark for me. The problem isn’t that the corgi got strong. It’s that his power-up collapses the hierarchy the series spent hundreds of chapters building. Early HDT drilled one thing into us: tiers are qualitative. An Absolute isn’t just a bigger stat block, but it’s a categorical shift in authority. Advancement isn’t scaling. It’s transformation. Now look at the chain of events: The Weredeer defeats an Absolute that eventually becomes a ruler. Biscuit neutralizes the Weredeer via devour. Biscuit devours the structure of the tutorial. That means Biscuit is peak Absolute or something between a ruler and Absolute That’s breaks the structural math. If Biscuit can beat something that beat an Absolute, the ladder stops being vertical. It becomes situational. And once tiers are situational, the fear evaporates. The “Hell” in the title loses its teeth because the floor can now punch the ceiling. And this isn’t isolated. The Adrian device already hinted at rule elasticity. Biscuit just makes it undeniable. When power can spike through convenient consumption events instead of earned ascension, the implicit contract changes. Progression no longer guarantees cost. I’m here for the corgi. I’m not here for the corgi quietly invalidating every brutal, incremental step Nathaniel had to take to climb those same tiers.

Paden Woodruff

Youre really good at this cerim. Really really good.

karmaslap

Liss killed a ruler as not even a champion in her current body and it was fine, Biscuit banishes a brand new absolute after 800 chapters of 'biscuit is OP' and suddenly the heirarchy is destroyed??

karmaslap

He devoured space around the weredeer, somehow banishing it to somewhere/maybe even out of the tutorial so egoe

Benji1229

Ppl been talking a lot about plot armor and i agree one of HDTs greatest points is the emphasis it puts on the sheer dedication and effort it takes to climb power levels and there’s no really cheap “fight one stage higher” moments but i think it’s clear in this scenario Biscuit sacrificed something pretty significant to be able to pull this off, on top of the fact that it’s been emphasized he’s trained on his own it’s just not seen. For now I’d say trust in the author we all know and love and I’m pretty sure cerim has a reason for throwing this, not just out of random plot device. Ultimately it’s his story and he definetly has a plan (unless he’s in third floor Nat mindset). He’s probably laughing at ragebaiting us right now in fact

Vik221

Come on lissandra is a being rulers fear, killing a ruler is a thing that she did in the past as well nothing new in that. But biscuit power structure is little abnormal

Larx

The deer is not dead. Biscuit devoured just one attack.

CrypticAnon

Holy shit. Holy shit I can’t believe it. I don’t have anything to say, I’m just speechless. Where did he fucking go?!?? On another note, can we take a moment to appreciate how Gas this story is and has remained since day 1. Im have never been more certain that this is a generational run. Edit 1: also does anyone remember the ruler that Kindness woke up under all that snow? Seeing biscuits [Devour] reminds me of that interaction for some reason.

Hardworking Guy

Biscuit OP is more of a running joke, I hope no one seriously thought that Biscuit can defeat Champions by himself right now. Lissandra is someone who had and still has a higher understanding of power and everything, she kept her skills above level 90 even in her weak body and had the magic black mana f*ks everything dagger to assist. Biscuit started as a normal, abused dog, developed consciousness, became smart, powerful and so on. Even so, with this one move, as Michael said, Biscuit invalidated all linear progress and all life and death battles Nathaniel and everyone else had. Well, that can be seen subjectively, but an attack that probably killed combat oriented Champions and an Absolute could probably lay waste of group 4, Biscuit stopped the attack, either killed, or moved the deer away and ripped a hole into the fabric of the tutorial, something that Lissandra, the current visible peak of power needed assistance from reality breaking black mana. I understand where Michael comes from, if skills, resources reserves and circumstances are not in favor, at least partially to group 4, then the validity of the conflict gets questioned

CrypticAnon

Hmmmm idk. Beings inside the tutorial have been breaking it often and have been shown to be equal to rulers or surpass them, with occasional handicaps. I think you’re putting too much faith in a system that has proven unreliable to contain strong powers. (The tutorial, absolutes, and rulers have caveats to them. Always have)

Hardworking Guy

Loved the chapter and the progress! I'm looking forward to more details about what happened cuz I'm bewildered. Biscuit probably used all his primordial energy to devour a hole in space, which in turn devoured his connection to Nathaniel and the deer and its attack, maybe. The new envy needs to be killed after this.

Krzychu0304

I get the impression that people complaining about Biscut either poorly remembered scenes involving him in the rest of the novel, or even deliberately ignored them because they didn't like Biscut as a character. And now: is Biscut stronger than Nat? Yes. Is Biscut significantly stronger than Nat? Yes. Do we know exactly how strong he is? No, but if we follow his backstory, we can glean something from it. If we go back in time a bit, in the first story, Biscut was a charming mascot with an incredible talent for controlling mana (he was directly compared to Nat and was much better at it), but with negligible combat skills. Around the 4th floor and the first tournament, he reached a level comparable to the other members of Group 4, but was still below Nat's level and participated in activities with them quite actively, as seen in the first tournament. Floor 5, where Biscuit's apprentice is the grandson of Fenrir (one of the most fearsome beasts in history), who compares Biscuit to his grandfather. On Floor 6, he began to isolate himself from Group 4 and, with a single attack, killed the stag champion who had broken the seals and whom the rest of Group 4 were unable to kill themselves (thus demonstrating that he is undisputedly the most powerful member of Group 4). Then comes Floor 7, where Liss acknowledges Biscuit's superiority (when everyone else was training and Liss insulted them while giving them guidance, she decided Biscuit was training well enough not to need her guidance). Then Biscuit detected and devoured a special mimic that infected Tess. Now we come to the 9th floor, Fraudrian, and the latest ongoing issues. There's more than a little to it, and it's all in quick succession: the issue of his friends on the 9th floor, skipping the initial floors beyond and starting from the 4th floor, the direct suggestion that Biscuit can help control Nat's mana during a body upgrade similar to Fraudrian's, Fraudrian's successful evasion of recognition, attempts to telepathically converse with Biscuit resulting in mental overload, the repeated emphasis that Biscuit deliberately refrains from intervening to allow Nat to earn achievements independently, etc. Putting all this together, we can quite easily determine that Biscuit's minimum strength level ranks him as a champion.

CrypticAnon

I can see it now. Group 4 training camp, pissed off self productive Nate planning revenge on rulers. Bro is locked, hopefully, in.

CrypticAnon

Bro just leave them to fume it’s funny. They missed out on a lot already. 😂

Tshern

I came to say the same. Got me in the feels

Tshern

I rarely comment and rarely double post, but love the story and been here since the start. I see same comments I don't really understand where they are coming from with the opinion, just wanted to say love the story and your writing.

Kenny

Moving the weredeer and even eating its attack seems fine, the problematic thing for me is eating a hole in the Tutorial.

Austin Barton

But he’s gone rn which means no biscuit for a bit.

Austin Barton

Lissandra herself looked at biscuit and said he didn’t need her training. Which means that she can’t or doesn’t need to help him because as she said herself she can’t stand people using their powers incorrectly. Plus since the start nat himself has been saying biscuit is stronger than him.

Val the mysterious Jedi

I read some comments just now to see if they agree and a bunch of power nerds losing their minds, the whole biscuit power doesn't take away from a sweet sad sacrifice.

Val the mysterious Jedi

Nuts people didn't lose their mind when biscuit literally ate a champion but biscuit ribbing a whole in reality is the shark, he had to give his all to do it.

Kenny

Right I get them not seeing it, that tracks with everything we've seen with Tutorial natives. But Nat still can't detect when the system modified his body, or teleports him to beyond. So Biscuit doesn't seem like he could detect the underpinnings of the Tutorial. So is it power? We have seen multiple random champion fights, and even Lissandra's Singularity that destroyed the second floor, and none of those damaged the tutorial. The only time we have seen anything remotely like this is when Lissandra used the black mana dagger to cut between the floors, like floor 3 to 4. That's why this bothers me, not the teleporting of the Weredeer or blocking of the attack, but that Biscuit carved through the Tutorial with power when Lissandra's crazy attack didn't. It makes sense she can figure a way to finesse her way out, she has mastered Control, it doesn't make sense for Biscuit.

frozzi

It was a meme 1st april chapter, who gives a crap about it bruh

Jason Pyle

I may have missed it, but who is Biscuit's Beyond handler?

Damian Karis

He doesn’t have one, he’s technically not a beyond attendee in the first place. He was only able to go there through the bond with Nat

CrypticAnon

Kindness waking up wrath is such a Bar. Thank you. I don’t remember who biscuits handler was, if it was even revealed.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Jax rammus. When they were introduced, the detected the marks left on nats. Biscuits mark and maybe even Lissandra. And other stuff I don't remember. Maybe some nat internal dialogue comparing himself to them. But I 100% remember the communities comments. They were introduced with feats implying lvl 70 skills, and then from their second appearance or third apperance onward, they got reduced to like lvl 40 skills. 40 < 55 < 70. Ie, they were actually weaker then nat when they first met him, yet temporarily had some nonsensical feats, and then quickly returned the mid they really were. And pff course, given they don't do anywhere near the insanity nat does, they didn't keep up with his growth rate. Your reaction shows just how high they fell.

Mega Mike

I never said he ate the Weredeer. Where did you come up with that? I said he neutralized- I did not say eat.

Hms

Guess it is the wording since he says far away I assumed it was still something Nat could see or sense. Guess Ill have to wait for it to get cleared up tomorrow.

xerebz

Guys Nat was able to make Black Mana in that 4th floor Beyond Tournament without any skills or bonds.

John

no way hes stronger than the beyond attendees

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Nah. Biscuit is strong versus dear is a fucking joke. Thats not how compatibility works. Ya'll just can't fathoms big numbers. So for you, 1 million, and 10^10^10 is the same number.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

No. What we had was: Biscuit does a very simple feat like creating mana arms. And nat looks at that and makes the joke that biscuit is insanely talented. And THE ONLY REASON HE BELIEVES IT'S DUE TO TALENT, IS THE IMPLICATION THAT HE DID NO TRAINING OR EFFORT TO UNLOCK IT. Do that for arround 6 books. Then by book 7, cerim has lost the plot, make biscuit the mascot and mary sue of him, puts him on covers and sells plushies. And then suddenly, biscuit start having actual nonsensical feats. Except we never saw him actually do any training, not being trained by a super powerfull being, and never pushes himself during fights. And again, the only reason the joke started, is the implication that he just got those small abilities with 0 efforts. But now, even the greatest biscuit glazer will say: Well, at least, he got that strong because he was secretly doing a ton of training. Which completely counters the early joke. What happened is very simple, Cerim got lost in the ever increasing biscuit glaze running gag (which again, isn't a gag if its actually completely true) and then decided to bend the entire lore over backward to fit the biscuit glaze. But that is nonsensical, and again, a complete logical contradiction. Something *LITTERALY IMPOSSIBLE*. Saying "(X) and (not X) is true" is saying "False is True", which is gibberish that looks like human words.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

No, that was stupid too. And I was calling it. Also, there is such a thing as "Enough is Enough"

xerebz

First, Luna sensing was never said to be mana related. I think it's more related to sense of smell. Second, Leticia's Mana sensing was better than Nat's but that doesn't equate to Mana Manipulation. That only suggests that their perception was better than Nat's which is easily possible. Third, if it was actually related to Mana Manipulation that only means that they are better at certain thing and could still be at the same or lower level of Mana Manip. Nat was much better at controlling a higher volume of mana instead of finesse use which could cause their skill to be a similar level. Fourth, even if Leticia's Mana Manipulation was higher than Nat's why would you think it's around level 70, I've never thought that.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

A meme became real. Bending the entire plot and breaking the early book backward. The problem, is you can't fathom big numbers. You don't know how to compare big numbers. So for you, a feat that is 1 million or 1 trillion, or 1 google is the same. And that's what happening with Biscuit. It's mary sue. It's essentially making Biscuit 10000x more talented then fucking pride. But that's such an insanely high bar that you can't fathom it, so your brain lowers it to the top of what you can imagine, which then makes it reasonable to you. To achieve feats that are above Adrian, Biscuit needs to be a reincarnated ruler at BARE MIN. === You are basically doing the same as people who thinks. 0.000000000001 is close to 0.50 (substraction wise), So moving 1 meter in 0.00000000...1 second is similar to in 0.5s. Feat/training time.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Dude. Even if nat was willing to get his entire existance erased in one attack, he wouldn't be able too. Also, just because you could sacrifice doesn't mean you have a sacrifice skill. You can't say, Im willing to die so make 1 million dollars appear in front of me. And what biscuit did isn't like a sacrifice skill.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Again my man. What I'm talking about is the comments. Everytime a pet is op comment appeared, It rubbed me off the wrong way when it was said seriously. Look at this chapter's comment. You've got people actually saying it makes sense, people actually praising biscuit, and even saying word for word, Wow biscuit can do ruler level feats. Actual brain bumped wojak people. Back then with lecita and luna, you had those same kinds of comments. So, dumb readers and biscuit just constantly circle jerked themselves, always one upping the other, and the story has been bleeding for it. It has been getting worse for a long time. Biscuit make a pet do X. (When it makes no sense that pet could do that in the first place. Its already 3x too much). People highball it as a 1.5X or 2X feat. Net time, cerim one up that, and makes a 3X feat, then people highball it as a 5X feat. And it continues on and on.

Nate Zucker

Who is cutting onions in here?

Snuckytoes

Cinderbear isn’t the Ruler of Wrath. He is the Ruler of Charity. The Ruler of Wrath’s identity hasn’t been revealed yet.

Nate Zucker

Just to clarify for myself, PE is primordial energy?

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Biscuit could kill champions before adrian did. Think about the first dear and then the parasite. Adrian is the second most talented being born in the last 1000 years, a fucking absolute, and he's been planning his reincarnation for 100s of years, planning the best possible path to get even stronger, the best foundation, the best way to cheat the system, the best way to become the strongest. And yet, biscuit growth rate surpass him. Someone in this comment section said, biscuit was weaker then nat at floor 5 but started growing really fast then. Which makes it even more absurd. Nat was able to hang with adrian for 10-30s and even escape from him, while adrian was serious and exerting himself. Adrian wasn't using 0.1% of his power. Yet he'd be insta speed blitz stomped one shot, beyound space and reconsition insta killed by an absolute. === Then if we compare to nat, and what a talented dude having everything going for him, he's massively above him. (Again, nonsensical). I have entire long comments about that. And if we compare to pride and liss, he's got a feat comparable. Which is also, again, nonsensible. === Nat, adrian, and liss/pride. We can also add the Magi too. Who could barely fight against the system for a week, while using loopholes and being outside of it. Fighting thr system from inside the tutorial might be even harder. Like it's inside it's own base and domain. Nat < Adrian < Magi < Biscuit ~< Liss/Pride. Yeah. Fuck that.

Krzychu0304

Biscuit acts as an adorable ball of fluff, doing adorable fluffy things, exuding an unearthly horror when the fluff is parted a bit. Lately, the fluff has been parting more and more often, and finally, the horror had to come to light, and it did in this chapter. Hints of this were scattered throughout the novel, and if anyone was paying attention, they knew what to expect. It wasn't a shock or a plot disruption, but rather a fulfillment of long-simmering tension. And hell, Biscuit is canonically the most talented character we've ever met. You can tell that from what Liss said/did, and if you've been reading carefully, you should be aware of that. But we don't know the details of his powers, we don't know what they're capable of, we don't know how he acquired them, and we haven't seen him train. And that's not a plot hole, it was intentional because that's what his archetype is all about.

CrypticAnon

That’s still interesting and makes me wonder more. Wish we could see more about Charity and Gluttony.

ariel maoz

Nah, even liss isn't that capable, sure she could kill the weredeer just as fast, but even she couldn't escape the tutorial, abd had to flee to beyond just to increase the chance of her not getting DELETED by the system and biscuits just like nah I can do whatever the hell I like... The only way I would accept it is if greed took control over biscuit like how kindness did to the demon, but yeah, of its not that powerscaling is just broken

dwrex smile

I'm hoping he just ate his way out of the tutorial accidentally and will be waiting for everyone on earth? But then Adrian/cristoph is there too.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Yes. Which adds to my point. Saying it's a liss level feat can be seen as being advantageous to liss. And only through insane mental gymnastic, pure apologetics, is it seen as a lower then liss feat. I wouldn't say cerim is purposly destroying the story to sell Biscuit merch, because I don't think it's conscious and maliscious. But he certainly lost the plot with biscuit.

Lizy Flore

I don’t understand all this fuss about Biscuit’s strength. From the very beginning, he was presented as outside the power scaling the rest of the characters have to submit themselves to. The mystery that surrounds him is proof of that. Then we had hints like Lissandra acknowledging him, his disciple putting him on a pedestal, etc… Outside of the power scaling doesn’t mean that he’s stronger or weaker than the cast, it means his strength cant be measured by the same standard as the others. In some ways, he is much weaker than group four, and in other ways, he is much stronger. Furthermore, some people are saying Biscuit is too op without considering the context. Clearly, what he did to the weredeer cannot be explained just by saying “he dealt with an absolute just like that”. Let’s analyse the sequences piece by piece : 1) Biscuit never targeted the weredeer directly. Not once. He targeted the space before it, and I doubt he could control the tutorial’s response to that. 2) his primordial energy is unknown, but sufficiently dangerous to have people like Lissandra acknowledging it. 3) his primordial energy’s characteristics, powers, drawbacks and abilities have been intentionally not addressed throughout the story (to this point). All we have are theories. We know nothing. 4) Nat was worried. Not just “I’ll fight till my death” worried. Worried as in he was literally begging. And Nat knows biscuit’s strength and weaknesses better than anyone else. 5) Nat used the word “consequence” but we all know how he likes to downplay things, especially when said things are bad BAD. Conclusion : Biscuit is in a very, very, VERY bad shape. He has abilities that can let him confront beings multiple hundreds times stronger than he is, but it has immense drawbacks. The only comparaison I have is Megumi in JJK. He could end any fight anytime he wants it, but that kind of power has a cost.

Sir Supports Alot

I will add, biscuits primordial energy is something unique like only a handful of existences have it and it belonged to a being that devoured a planet (?) pretty sure, biscuit has always been talented and it's been mentioned he only tries when he's not lazy, and when there's food involved

Youkai-sama

🫓: *pft* "I'm not gon Die. Shoulda ate that damn deer the moment we got here!"

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

It still doesn't make sense. (10^10^10 ) /10 is still too big a number. What you are saying is exactly that mental gymnastic cope I was eluding too. Even if you high ball every possible advantage and cope for this, and push them somewhat passed reasonable levels, (which, agains, is wrong to do), it's still too much. Another way to see it, if there was a primordial energy that had such a huge advantage against the system, pride and co would have been pushed to exterminate it, and the system would have grown accustumed to it and envelopped it long long ago. Maybe if this was in the very early creation of the system, such a thing might be possible. But that weakness would be patched. === Let me make a simplified version of the general statement. PE counter + Biscuit = Y Y is too big. Way too big. Either Pe counter is too big. (System would have adapted too it) Or biscuit is too big. (Biscuit has 100x the growth rate of adrian) Even if we divide it equally, mathematically the most forgiving operation. Y/2 = Biscuit = PE (both share the load of bullshit equally). Its still too much. ==== The complete statement is Biscuit strength + (bullshit reason why such a feat is possible #1) + (cope #2) + ... (delusion #n) = Y The best case scenario for biscuit apologethics is again, equally divided. But even Y/n >> Reasonable. Tldr, whatever excuse you give it, that excuse doesn't make sense and it creates as many if not more holes as it patches. ==== So even if you say Biscuit strength + Top talent + Max training in secret + Pe compatibility + those in the tutorials (not native) have an easier time and other copes gets too the level of escaping and erasing tutorial... Then whatever way you split it, there will be at least one element which will be too big, and will make absolutely 0 sense. And even if you split it equally, so that the biggest one in that is the smallest it can be, then they are all gonna be too big. Biscuit should not be comparable to a ruler in any possible way or metric, it should be a nonsensical comparaison, that would require very specific mathematic just to be able describe it. If you suck at math, and you can imagine a bar with each sub sections having its own colors. And a line threshold being tutorial-system fuckery. One of these subsections colored bars (representing how big the corresponding cope participated in making such a thing "possible") will be too big, big beyound reason.

thisisniall

Is it ever actually called out he doesn't have a handler? I thought they just mention him showing up late

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

So, Biscuit talent makes no sense. Primordial energy would not be that op, the system would have adapted to it. If tutorial atendees had it that easily fucking with the tutorial, it would not exist anymore. And it would have adapted to prevent it being so easy to keep its function. If biscuit had super extreme training, we would have seen it. And even if we do an equal split between all of those so that none of them carries the whole load, they would still be wrong. === If we put a number to that feat, we are talking about a number so big that scientifically, even if you divide it by 10 or 100 or 1000, its still the same bigass numbers. Just like for big numbers, e^x / 100 does not give a fuck about the 100. We are talking about a number so big, we are ralking about the numbers of 0 after 1. And rhat number of zero is big enough that removing 1 or 2 zeroes doesn't stop making it huge.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Think about it. Biscuit ate a champion before adrian could fight one. And that's just horrible writting. If you disagree, you are unreasonable.

Johnny

Well said

Johnny

My thoughts exactly

Johnny

I agree that ppl taken by surprise by Biscuits power need to chill, but slight disagreement in the nuance. I don’t think Biscuits more powerful per se but his energy is harder to quantify and intentionally vaguely described. Could be just wildly different or a counter or like limited use or what have you

Krzychu0304

I don't particularly feel like repeating myself. In terms of talent, Biscuit is a TRUE MONSTER, BEYOND LISS AND MOST PROBABLY PRIDE AS WELL. And, as is obvious, he outclasses "normal" mortals like Nat or Fraudrian. This is deliberate on Cerim's part, because Biscuit has his own archetype and his own role to play in the story. And what you call "plot holes," "inconsistencies," or "nonsense" should be reduced to "I don't like Biscuit as a character and the role he played in the novel and I wish he didn't exist," ignoring the fact that Biscuit is a well-written character who fulfills the role he was intended to fulfill and is well-integrated into the world. P.S. Regarding "fighting the system," you're way off base. BIscuit tore a hole in reality (most likely some sub-dimension connected to his primal energy, not necessarily located outside the tutorial) that he fell into along with that deer. He wasn't in any way a rebellious tutorial construct trying to escape the floor he was assigned to. Furthermore, the ability to do things isn't directly related to power. Nat was only able to create black mana on the third floor, and Lily recently learned to create mana hearts, something the rebellious Liss clone couldn't.

Goof Nasty

I think people fail to realize, that Biscuit is the Greatest copy cat. He saw Lissandra break through the system and proceeds to do the same. He copied almost all of group 4 abilities in some shape or form. He is the ultimate glutton

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Biscuit being beyound pride is already ridiculous in and off itself. But what you don't seem to understand is that he'd need to not just be slightly beyound pride and liss, but massively beyound to do that kind of stuff. And also, as I said, whatever cope you say about what just happened, it's still not enough to explain it. And it once agains returns to: Wtf did he do in all the earlier books? Also, it's not that Biscuit is more talented then adrian, thats completely possible thing. It's that he's growing faster then a reincarnated absolute adrian. Have you never read a single regressor or reincarnator story? The second time arround, they grow insanely faster then the first time. And Adrian spent hundreeds of years planning to do so. Which means, he'd grow even faster then those unwilling reincarnators. He's got like a god lvl soul, min and knowledge. Lissandra literaly grew into a ruler level being from a single regular human hand in less then a year. And thats a nerfed lobotimised lissandra. Sure adrian isn't liss, but given he'd plan to grow as fast and solidely as possible, his growth rate while in the turorial should be unmatchable. === If biscuit seriously had pride level talent, he should not have been doing fuckall during the firsr 600 chapters of the story. You seem like the kind of giy that would eat shit 5 times, and like it the 6th because, "well, I've grown used to it. I had it before. So surely it's food". And remember how everyone said: Yo it makes no sense how christopher was growing this fast. It's bad. And the reason we had was : Well, it's the reincarnation (planned and min max + optimised for 300+ years) of a planrt busting entity. Like what is biscuit, the reincarnation of Inner Prime consort Unnaloyed Pride++ super ultra of the death that kills? In the early story, he had no feat, little to no effects on the plot, and only had weird and peculiar abilities. That was all. And I was there nearly the whole time, and saw the circle jerk be blown out of proportion. I saw the comments saying dumbass shit, and cerim just leading it on. === Biscuit feels like a fucking xianxia mc, reincarnation of the supreme dragon of existsnce who destroy and create multiverse by just moving arround superfuckspace.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

There is importance in power scaling, self consistency and biscuit say fuck you to all of that. Just because the author decide to break his own rule and fiction doesn't mean it's good. Its a mary sue level existence and nothing you say will go against that. And news flash, mary sues are famously known example of bad writting. Got a wikipedia and fiction pedia and other wiki pages just about it. === A final note: A being of Biscuit's "talent" (Pride and Above) would have had major implications and effects on the story, lore and universe. Yet he did fuckall during the first 6 books. It was a joke, that became semi serious foreshadowing, that then started being treated seriously. Biscuit is very clearly Cerim's favorite character, and so he's just biased concerning biscuit. Biscuit is more important then actual story telling. It's like "Agenda above everything" meme, but the author is the one who seriously fell into it. It's Rey "Skywalker" (hurgh) all over again. Oh and I forgot: Cerim just started using biscuit as a deus ex machina to solve impossible problems after writting himself into a corner. Champions and absolute started being more prevalent from book 7ish and on. So thats why biscuit started actually doing stuff there.

Riot89

Primordial nom energy

Abhishek

This just got personal. The rulers, the tutorial, the system, the weredeer, everything and everyone will pay.

Monster M

I know I said before that I wouldn't comment until the next chapter, but after reading the comments, I just need to chime in one last time. There is a split between people saying Biscit broke the setting of the story and people saying no, it was foreshadowed every time someone met Biscit and was shocked. Even now, for me, it wasn't fully shown that other powerful beings mean Biscit is somehow stronger than a champion or absolute. It was just "wow, amazing bond" or a nod from Liss—not Biscit having level 80–90 skill levels or higher (I don't even know what his skills are) or somehow his PE being so OP it can damage the tutorial. But the most important part is that this kills the build-up to Nat becoming champion. Now every time Nat does something or fights near champion-level beings, I'll remember, "Oh cool, but Biscit is already 100 times stronger than Nat," and it's just a buzzkill because we didn't see how he became so strong. It just doesn't feel earned. That's my biggest problem: we didn't see any form of training, struggle, or suffering from Biscit, but we must accept that he is 100 times stronger than Nat, and it just leaves a bad feeling all around. When Nat gets to level 450 and becomes champion (maybe), there will still be this chapter that says, "Cool, good job… a dog was absolute already."

Scyzim

For those complaining: No one said Biscuit beat the Weredeer. He simply removed the deer from the tutorial (I believe based on the writing) along with himself. This doesn't mean Biscuit is stronger than Absolutes or anything, it simply means he had to pay a great cost to devour the space using his PE and some skill (I'm assuming probably in the 90's) to remove the deer. Aka, a one time use ability that Nat himself does often by circumventing the system. I would say it is likely Biscuit used a beyond token or something of the sort and devoured the space around the deer for just long enough to bring it with him. This isn't breaking the power scale HDT has been building, it's just another example of an attendee being able to abuse the system once.

Krzychu0304

Biscuit is more talented than Duma, and that's the joke. You don't have to like it, but you should understand how it works. The second problem is that we don't know exactly what Biscuit did, while you're assigning some completely insane value to it out of thin air. Furthermore, you're ignoring the fact that the ability to do things isn't directly related to power. It's basically like knowing that you can force the appearance of black mana, but it requires the power of a top-tier absolute, so you'd be complaining that Nat from the 3rd floor didn't have the right to create it. What did Biscuit do in the previous books? He mostly sat quietly on the sidelines, occasionally exuding a look of terror that suggested he was something completely insane. Another thing is that you're arbitrarily assuming Fraudrian's growth rate as the upper limit. Yes, the Reincarnationist grows incredibly quickly, especially in the early stages, because he doesn't learn new things; he simply recreates old abilities he's already learned. But he won't open any hard barrier that an organic growth curve fueled by raw talent can't cross, especially after several years of development. Don't compare me to the people who complained about Fraudrian's growth rate, because only those who couldn't connect the dots complained. To me, it was obvious he couldn't have been a regular tutorial participant. Hell, I think I was the first person to claim Fraudrian started at a higher power level (if I remember correctly, it was when we learned he started in Benyond, and I compared him to something like Big E). Just because you were there should mean you should remember what Biscuit's growth curve looked like, not dismiss it all as absurd nonsense. Who is Biscuit? He's just a terribly adorable dog, with even greater talent. The power scaling is fine, and no plot is broken. You just imagined the things' absurd power levels and then started getting upset about it. And no, there's no Mary Sue here.

Arsenii

bruh, why you all have such a one dimensional powerscaling in your mind , ability to delete space is OP but it’s literally written that he deleted SPACE not weredeer , why would you even start comparing his power to other characters. It’s like saying that some medusas on earth are the strongest creatures on earth because they are immortal , wtf everybody in this universe has a certain skillset and corgi was and remains to be a gimmicky sidekick with gimmicky powers that can devour space occasionally WITH POTENTIALLY SERIOUS FUCKING CONSEQUENCES TO LIFE TFTC cerim anyway P.S “oh no Sophie can mindfuck people and Nat cannot , so unfair, universe is ruined, totally unfair to Nat”

Majulla

I agree, for me it was, the series of event that lead to this, were for the first time in the story in a long time, felt incredibly forced. I'm sure theirs gonna be a good plot around these events, but to have the exact items for this to have forced the corgis self sacrifice, it would have felt less forced if a ruler invaded their floor. Feels like a lot of out of character tendencies happened to lead to these events. 1. Weredeer A. dragged the corpse during a life and death situation at end of stage, meaning their is value. B. They left it like it had 0 value (depressed corgi didnt wanna eat, favorite food). The team that is known for taking items nailed down, would leave value on the floor. C. a being that is absolute+++ can interact with the tutorial (first time, without significant effort or alteration weve seen) (can assume they tuned down Lis, so she couldnt do that, but irrc there was no mention of the interaction with tutorial portals, the opposite.) D. Nat and crew decides to not isolate and deal with the hand/fingers, even though he could have trusted the squad to secure their own safety, while he transfers the hand/finger to beyond. 2. Baby wyvern A. bring a load of items from a trove from the absolute+++ guy. one of the items being the exact item needed to hatch a wyvern egg, which is convenient, since it was a experiment made by the elf. (makes sense if we see the elf recreates wyverns later in the series) B. Baby wyvern wakes up as top champion grade or low absolute. can 1v8 the squad while they full power. (im all for this plot, its super cool we get to see the power of wyverns/dragons) one of these story plots is more than enough, but to have 2 line up is where the lore/immersion of the story is strained. The whole chapter super devalues the power of the team, instead of placing wyverns as a higher power, than the team combined.

Majulla

this might be due to biscuit being an attendee that he could pop a while in the tutorial like lis, but not have to avoid getting delected.

Majulla

it was a hyper weakened champion, with acid drip for 1 million+ years, its with reason he was able to push his special primordial power to its limit. was it a stretch, sure, but atleast their was foundation built around the events.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Nah. You'd need like 1000 reasons each doing the maximum amount of work they possibly can to carry the load that is such a feat. Even with 50, at least one of them will need to carry too much. If that dear was a mid tier champion, and biscuit just did space manipulation and temporarily moved himself and the dear somewhere else, then all of your cope combined could make sense. And then it would be a bunch of legit reasons comming together. But he ain't affecting the tutorial or reacting/deflecting a space surpassing attack from a mid-strong absolute.

Majulla

the wyvern mother has to be ruler lever or higher if the power scale starts a baby wyvern a mid to peak champion

jobe matula

nah if you were paying attention you've been waiting for this since lisandra gave biscuit respect

jobe matula

man I couldn't have said it better.. it's like they were reading a different story.. I've been dying to see biscuit save the day.. if you really understand this story you knew this was coming the whole time

jobe matula

If you didn't know this was coming and weren't dying in anticipation for it, we weren't reading the same story... or maybe... our reading comprehension skills vary greatly..lol.🤣

Name1

Probably higher but might be nerfed for the tutorial

Name1

Yes all of these are good points but you’re ignoring that most of these are just mistakes they made without knowing they were making them plus there’s additional convos / ppl around them supporting that this whole scenario is far outside the norm and might even be the first time it’s ever happened in the tutorial

E

I don’t really comment like ever but just wanted to say, “love the story, ignore the weird comments, looking forward to seeing where things go”

Wallaby Vonwise

Oh wow, devastating, this story isn't one that typically gets the the tears the running, but damn.

Eastbound monk

This. Even biscuit getting the minion he did. It wasn't a case of IF he would save the day but WHEN and HOW. The how has me really worried and sad though.

ForgottenDreams

We saw biscuit training several times...

Arme nd

On a lighter tone Nat playing kinetic yoyo with Blackie was fun.

PoeticSaint

I cry too often..... please. I beg you.

Sushitrash

NOOOOOOOOOO DONT YOU DARE BISCUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGHHS

Shawn Treants

Bunch of idiots always asking for more deaths and now the bestest pup of all is taking a hit. You should feel ashamed.

Shawn Treants

Anyone that complains about plot armor is honestly just kinda brain dead. Stories are told from the point of view of the victor. Period. If the MC dies.. there would be no story. What would be the point?

Emkay

People asked for this? I can't believe it!! But Biscuit isn't dead. He can't be

Nagy Ádám

After the biscuit plushies? No way he writes him off and there is higher attachement to the doggo. Mc developement. Later the corgi will be back maybe as a ruler or an absolute of a different planet?

wolf Bound

Wait…so those bonus chapters from two years ago the alternate universe biscuit and scp biscuit wasn’t far off? 😨