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POV The Cerulean Parlor

About three dozen Handlers sit about in the cozy-looking lounge with a huge fireplace, and the floor covered in thick fur pelts.

This time, it is for a rare opportunity to watch what is happening inside the tutorial without breaking the rules. It is something they usually have to work around or get records of long after it has happened. Now, they get to watch it just as it is occurring, all thanks to the Ruler of Lust, who is present and sharing the view of her floor.

“Princess, I also think it was quite rude to watch what that animal did to you. By the way, is that a new haircut? It is beautiful,” says the woman whose body from the waist down is a spider, including the head. Her voice carries a smile and a strange charm.

The Ruler of Lust smiles back at her. Her hair, eyes, and wings are all black, and she wears a sleeveless red dress.

“Thank you, my dear. And yes, I got a haircut just a few days ago. It is really trendy on my planet,” she leans back in the special chair that doesn't restrict her big wings and crosses her legs. “And yes, it is a shame, but I myself know how cutely weak I used to be before I got my precious baby. Since then, a lot has changed.”

“I think it is possible the weredeer was stronger than it should have been, wasn't it? The last floor they cleared had a higher difficulty and fewer restrictions than yours,” the spider woman continues to talk, her voice polite and soothing.

The Ruler of Lust seems to like the observation and nods. “That must be it, though we all know how powerful that brute's bloodline is. But who knows, maybe he will be mine one day as well,” she laughs.

That causes the Ruler of Kindness nearby to chuckle, and the Princess furrows her brow, deciding to ignore her.

On the screen, they watch a baby wyvern hatch. It lets out a call that spreads through the planet and then rises to face the group against it. There is barely any hesitation in that tiny creature. Wyverns are just born like that. Always looking down at nearly every other living thing. It doesn't even consider the possibility of talking or creating some sort of mutually beneficial relationship. Instead, it attacks on a whim with the intention to kill.

“I almost forgot how cute he used to be when he was just a baby,” the Princess sighs. “Now I can’t carry him anymore.”

She is about to say something else, but a murmur starts when the barrier weakens the white lightning. The blonde woman deflects the rest with her own, even though it burns the entirety of her arm.

“Her lightning must be very pure to be able to do that much,” one of the Handlers says.

“It was against a newborn wyvern, it should not be considered that impressive,” another one muses.

“I know, but she only holds Primordial lightning. It shouldn’t be able to do even that much against that.”

“Silence, you two. He is using-”

That man gets interrupted by the Ruler of Kindness. “He is using black mana. Remember, that’s the name.” The way she smiles makes the others nervous, but they force a smile back and quickly nod.

“...He is using black mana again,” the Handler completes his sentence. “I was curious how it would stack against the white lightning ever since he clashed against Lyraen.”

They watch on the screen as the domain expands. A man with a cold expression moves, and his vessel mimics these movements. His mind controls all that mana, and the vessel channels it. Black orbs move all over the place, creating barriers to block the white lightning the wyvern begins to master at an incredible pace with bursts of white sparks.

The Ruler of Kindness, sitting on the couch, allows her body to slide down until her head falls on the legs of the person she sits next to. Her golden hair spreads over them like a brilliant waterfall as she looks up at the woman.

“What do you think of your ward?” she asks. “How does he compare to the Ruler of Greed, said to be the most powerful combat mage since Lissandra Hawthorne?”

The Ruler of Greed doesn't look at the screen, nor the other Handlers, nor even the other Rulers present. She just looks down at her friend. “He is not enough.”

“I think you are lying.”

“You can think that. And what is your opinion of him?” After only a second, she adds, “Lady Kindness?”

“I like him. He should rely on his black mana more, allow it into his body, and let it turn him into a monster, hopefully just as powerful as the Empyrean Thaumarch once was. Did you hear that Pride said the Thaumarch was the strongest person he had ever faced?”

“Was that before or after his duel with Lissandra Hawthorne?”

“I haven’t spoken to him in a long time, so who knows? Maybe Lissandra is now higher in his opinion.” Kindness laughs playfully and turns her head to the side to watch the screen before addressing everyone in the room. “I noticed not many of you spoke of that adorable little bond of that man.”

This time it is the Princess who speaks. “I agree that he is cute, and while his Pantophagic primordial energy is powerful, what can he actually do here?”

“Princess, isn’t that the primordial energy that clan of wolves has as well?” one of the Handlers asks.

The Ruler of Lust smiles at the woman, asking, causing her to blush and look away. “Yes, the descendants of that World Devouring wolf. Though sometimes beings outside of their clan appear with Pantophagic energy. I wonder why the system didn't give out the quest to erase them the same as it did with Empyreans. But look, my cute little murderer is back.”

As she says this, multiple Handlers chuckle. The spider woman on the side smiles for a short moment while watching the screen, though her spider head remains turned toward where the Ruler of Kindness lies on her friend’s legs.

The weredeer’s appearance causes the fight to stop. Everyone halts, and no one makes fun of it at all. Many of them remember their first meeting with an Absolute who wasn't restricting their pressure.

Yet, through all of that, a single man moves. His step is slow, almost unhurried, as he moves in front of everyone else.

“What an incredible body and mind,” one of the Handlers whispers with admiration. “If not for Nyssa or Christoph, he would be the greatest attendee in the past thousand years.”

“And what a smile,” another one says, and a few of them chuckle, throwing in similar words.

“I still think Lyraen shows more promise. And some of the overlooked S ranks that completed their tutorial also do really well. Have you heard of Ozlashaktralq? He is almost an Absolute now.”

No one seems to worry much about the people on the screen or the chance they might die in the next moment. Many of them have already had fun watching this curious new development. Some of them perhaps even hope for the people on the screen to die so their own wards have better opportunities in Beyond. Others might have already placed bets that would win them plenty of shards.

But their words stick mid sentence as the small corgi moves ahead. The primordial energy he was raising flashes forward with a strength like never before. The weredeer disappears, and the corgi follows, causing an eruption of multiple conversations as groups explode into excited chatter.

“...Did he damage the system structure?”

“Very pure Pantophagic energy is capable of that at a high cost, but don't even the members of that wolf clan avoid using it to such an extent to avoid triggering the eradication quest from the system? The poor little thing couldn’t control it or was desperate.”

“He is likely gone. Did he die?”

“If he didn't, his mind should be destroyed from such use. Or at least that energy devoured part of him, I’ve heard of such cases.”

“It damaged the tutorial’s frame. The Ruler of Diligence will be angry.”

"The system likely already fixed it and adapted against such cases in the future, making the energy weaker. The system is sometimes slow to adapt to such unique powers that aren’t used much. Give it some time, and it will suppress that energy to the level of the common five. In the end, it was just a tiny hole in this instance of the tutorial, and for a split second only." The handler that flatly explains it hasn't spoken until now, a lumoran with all his limbs made of crystal with mana bouncing inside around the visible bones.

“I bet one million shards that the cute creature is dead.”

“Two million shards. It's alive, but crippled and with a broken mind.”

“Three million shards, it will…”

The Ruler of Greed doesn't listen as much as she observes the Ruler of Lust, who stands up with a flashy smile. Greeting everyone else and even bowing toward the Ruler of Kindness, Lust hurriedly leaves.

It seems the Ruler of Greed knows what is happening or where she went and shows the intention of following her, but she is stopped by the blonde resting on her knees.

“There is no need to,” the blonde mouths.

It causes her friend to furrow her brow, but she stays and rests back.

With the weredeer gone, the view on the screen shifts to where it had moved, but before it can return, it pauses and shifts to the south.

The ground erupts as something colossal pulls itself from the depths, a wyvern resembling the hatchling, yet scaled to a terrifying, incomparable magnitude.

This is the source of the domain currently suffocating the planet. While wyverns are well known for their searing white lightning, they are equally feared for their mastery over domains.

The beast instantly senses its offspring’s presence, but its path is blocked by the opponent that appears in front of it.

A long time ago, it would have squashed that being in mere seconds, erased it from the face of the world for daring to stand in its way. But not anymore. It is old, dying. Woken by the call of its offspring, it climbs from the place that was supposed to become its graveyard.

Even so, it looks down at the creature facing it and spreads its torn wings wide, the space itself shaking around it. It knows it won't be able to track the cry of the hatchling without dealing with the opponent in front of it.

The screens are now maintained by Kindness after Lust’s departure. And just as the Handlers begin to bet on the fight, she switches the view back to the group facing the hatchling. Even though disappointed, none of them dares to complain too much.

"I had hoped they would have killed the hatchling by now. I bet that would make the mama wyvern very angry," one of the men says. His body is covered in fur, and his face bears animalistic features slightly reminiscent of a bear. Despite this, he wears a pure white suit.

"You have been hoping for that ever since the egg cracked," the spider woman reminds him gently. "Plenty of time still remains, though, and I bet the mama wyvern would sense if it got hurt and push through the weredeer."

The bear-man dismissively waves his hand. "Just look, they are already holding back. That annoying little empath told them to. Why does she keep crying?"

The spider woman speaks as she continues to observe the fight. "Isn't it because the hatchling killed one of the twins? It is very impressive. No wonder Lady Lust rose so fast after charming it. What surprises me is how the others hold back. I would expect them to have killed it by now, they seem capable of it."

"Because of that annoying empath, they know mama wyvern would come and have decided to ruin my fun by not doing so," the bear-man sighs, but continues to watch the screen.

They watch the rest of the fight, which turns into an attempt to contain the baby wyvern. As they hold it down, mostly through the effort of the man with two differently colored eyes, some of the others try to kill the hatchling, causing the man to block their attacks wordlessly.

Multiple people in the Cerulean Parlor compliment the way he contains the creature and defends against its white lightning. They also note the way he blocks all attempts at communication the hatchling makes to call for its parent. After observing it only twice, he devised a method to silence it.

He and the hatchling constantly clash in a way where a single mistake, a single slip-up, or a wavering of a tired mind would allow the creature to break through. His black mana continues to flare up constantly, pulling further into the area and feeding on the ambient mana. The vessel behind his back grows in size, pressing against the barrier stacked around the hatchling and catching rays of white lightning.

There are bets on how long he will be able to endure, with many guessing just ten minutes as the hatchling continues to grow and learn at a rapid pace, soon to reach the level of a Champion’s power.

He endures for over fifty minutes.

The hatchling finds itself incapable of doing anything. It cannot break through, it cannot mimic black mana, and it cannot develop the mana control necessary to shatter the man’s ability. In the end, for the first time, it shows fear, pulling back to the far side of the barrier and away from the man whose gaze hasn't changed once. Not when one of the twins exploded in an attack of white lightning. Not when the others threw themselves forward to kill the hatchling, or when his bond disappeared.

It doesn't even seem as if he has blinked since.

That same expression remains even when the entrance to the next floor opens, and everyone else leaves with all the items they can carry. Finally, the barrier around the hatchling disappears.

It cries for its mother multiple times into a world that seems to be falling apart from the fight, far away. The tremors intensify in reaction to that call, and the man lets it happen.

The arms of the black vessel behind him move and grab the hatchling, even as the creature surrounds itself with a myriad of white lightning sparks that punch holes into the vessel and burn through mana.

The man forms a spear of blood in his hand and stabs just once, straight through where he senses the beating heart of the hatchling.

Without a look of satisfaction or any other cruel emotion, he walks away, leaving the hatchling and even his vessel holding it behind as he steps through the portal, which closes to the cries of a distant, dying wyvern.

Next Chapter

Comments

Chase

Did they just say a twin died?

Venno

Yup 😭😭😭

Levi

Holy fuck cerim killed of one of the twins and it's not even Thursday.

Max Dudley

Surely they didnt just off one of the twins right after potentially offing the bestest doggo in the tutorial.

Andromeda

Wow killing a main cast from another perspective like that is unexpected. I thought it would be just biscuit to go down this floor. Feels surreal

Michael Williams

Wait so one of the twins died also? That will be disappointing. Either way, very quick end to the 10th floor. Only 3 to go! Soon 6th floor of beyond?

Dr.Awkward

I'm shaking and I'm not okay..... Damn you Cerim!!!!! This is just too good

Frotzy

Any bets? Perma dead twin or ressurrection quest with the mind preserved by the other twin + Sophie?

John Smith

Damn it, I was expecting it to happen soon but having it happen off screen and from a different pov??? At least we have one more chapter this week

John Smith

What does cerim have planned for us… terrifying

AFunkyLad

It’s a poor time to celebrate

Max Dudley

Im thinking the twin didnt actually die, using Connection they still have his mind and lily can regrow a body for him provided they have even a little bit of him left

frankie doerr

Twin time bet one of the absorbed the other and lily has to make a new body once tutorial is finished

Fdrugc

If nat leaves the floor before it dies will he get the exp?

RadiantSpren

No! i had a feeling about the twins, too. I am sure the surviving twin will soon die, as well. I mean, i hope not, but unless they are somehow still Connected even past death, then he will most likely lose the will to carry on. Dammit, man.

Flo Zilla

yeah, thats the scary part

AmLegend

That's why I love this novel, the author knows how to express the indifference of the world to the happenings so amazingly, the twin died and the Best corgi in the world disappeared and Nathaniel was able to face Champion level opponent. Which is MINDBLOWING. But it's narrated like it's the weather. I Love it. Can't wait for the next chapter Tomorrow.

RadiantSpren

Reminds me of the "yay" "not yay" guy from last chapter lol

Bedivere the Mad

The twin is fine. They're gonna do a 2 minds, one body thing for like a chapter, then Lily is gonna clone the surviving one and Sophie will fix them up

Eike M

So Lust is going to go and try Charm Biscuit like she did with the wyvern?

amom 1601

holly shit u are foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul , how do u wirte so well? i fuking love ur book but hate u ao muchhhhh u aready killed hadwin ( dam forgot how to write his name ) now u killing one of the twins u are foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul

PDHABigDaddy

Hard to say either are actually gone. Some are speculating the twins are sharing a body until Lily can grow one for them. And Cerim has strongly foreshadowed Biscuit returning.

PDHABigDaddy

1 million shards that Biscuit end up somewhere else, possibly in Beyond. Another mil to the twins being stuck sharing a body

Thariaus

Theory, the twin is not dead, when is body is pulverised by the lightning he use connection for his soul to go in the body of his brother and now the groupe for will try to make him a new body

Bandit General

One of these days, nat ‘s gonna go on a killing spree. My guy is gonna be like pride, and kill thousands of absolute

Jay

He's so deep in Focus I bet he immediately punts the surviving twin down to Hard Difficulty.

ariel maoz

And this is the problem, biscuit just devoured the weredeer like most of us thought, so why didn't he ate the wyvern baby? It's not even champion grade as stated in this chapeter, and when biscuit ate the champion at 6th floor, he was much weaker no? And now he managed to break the system with some sort of sacrifice on his part, if biscuit is not dead I will be annoyed, and I love biscuit I mean this has devalued EVERYTHING nat did, every achievement, every sacrifice... Did biscuit wanted nat to suffer? Why not eat all the monsters at the end of the 9th floor? Or at least the one that killed the furret? Or the one that knocked lily unconscious? When everything went to shit, why biscuit didn't bolted through the pyramid, killed everything and got the egg? Why not kill adrian? Adrian's attack are far weaker to the one of the weredeer The pnly explanation we got is one half assed paragraph about the PE, which shouldn't even matter, as biscuit only had 3 years! To learn how to use his PE, and from from whom? His disciple?

Baramus

Wait, okay. I’ve been thinking of this, and I hope it’s true, but can the twins’ Connection allow them to combine, maybe? They can already share stats, maybe they can, if only temporarily, become one being? Though I suppose the handlers would have commented on something like that happening…

Isaac Lung

The hatchling was already dead, the last line refers to the mother

Opal

Biscuit eats wyvern baby -> everyone dies to were deer. Biscuit isn't stupid.

Baramus

Never said he devoured the Weredeer. In fact, it looks like the deer got teleported in front of the mama wyvern.

ariel maoz

Biscuit eats wyvern -> biscuit eats weredeer, biscuit ate champions before, the wyvern wasn't even close to be a strong champion, hell it wasnt a champion at all!

Drunkgnome

I pity everything in the tutorial from this point. Whichever twin died will have moved his consciousness to the other one. That was my prediction for the death before Cerim did Biscuit dirty.

Psyren1596

I need more man, I NEEEEEEED IT

Gwiddion

I think lust is facing the wyvern. If so how did biscuit know where to teleport a absolute strength beeing. If not did the deer just nope out if there after sensing the mother? Why not kill the group and baby wyvern. Also it recognised Nat so it had definitely a desire to kill him. And it's not like the first attack that biscuit ate was a charged up one, it literally just swung it's arm. It can't be that hard to repeat that action once no? There are still a bunch of plot holes all over this floor and I really hope some will be explained in the coming chapters instead of the story just continuing with floor 11.

Psyren1596

I wonder why lust left the gathering though

Dr.Awkward

She wants to go pick up a new corgi... I hope Biscuit is going to be alright....

Terri Harris

Nice! Cold. All the crazy comments last chapter we're hilarious. The alternate points of view really give the story depth. They hadn't lost a member for quite a while. Either the remaining twin will become more powerful than ever, or he'll self destruct. I expect one sacrificed himself for the other taking the brunt of the lightning to shield his bro. But we still have hope for Biscuit. And I expect Nat to become more focused than ever. Great chapter! Thank you!

Nerø

WTF

Gwiddion

Biscuit eats hatching egg no one dies.

Daniel Bessa

what a beautifully written chapter

Yozora

It was about time that one of the twins died, even though i agree with the theory they will going to be revived, i still find them really useless, they could've used connection for a lot of things like connecting to primordial elements, but i don't remember they doing much aside telepathy

zachery chase

I am just gonna say the biscuit explanation flopped for me. The reason he could do what he did is because the system, which stated by either ruby or kindness is always trying and expand during one of their discussion, chose not to limit pantophagic PE. No explanation for why. Was the wolves clan just being good boyos so the system decided to go against what we been told it’s nature is?

Gwiddion

Doubt it. As others are speculating and I agree it's likely the surviving twin carries both souls. And lilly should be able to clone the body of the surviving one. More likely he and Tess will use it as a motivation to really improve. With the threat of being demoted to hard.

Andromeda

True I worded that poorly since I am confident biscuit is still alive and well. Them sharing a body would be interesting and would explain why it is from another perspective so as to make it suspenseful

Liam Zay

Damn I was pretty sure one of the twins would die, but still sucks to see

Sondadir

The handlers said that one of the twins " exploded ". Nobody said anything about dying. ... Yes, it's cope. But it's coherent

Adrian Rake

That was a great chapter.

Gwiddion

Ye hope this get explained upon more than just this chapter.

ChildConsumerServices

Biscuits Energy has a name! 'Pantophagic' a Greek word with Panto meaning 'all 'and phage meaning 'to eat'. Almost literally meaning All Eater... fitting, very fitting in fact

John

Thanks for the great chapter, cerim.

John

the deer is fighting the mama wyvren, beeing inbetween it and the group 4

Austin Barton

They don’t bring up the consequences of their linked relationship either so they probably don’t know.

Arnon Parenti

I bet Lust would love watching "her baby" being casually stabbed to death after achieving nothing at all.

Bandit General

Facts, I think at one point, even liss find their skill”connection” interesting. I even remember diligence kidnapping, the twins, Sophie and Izzy. For their skills. It sad that we didn’t get enough screen time to see the full potential of connection. And I also believe that the twin over rely on each other.

Austin Barton

They are probably doing a two minds one body with both voltroning and being stronger as one.

Austin Barton

Everyone wants the twin to get a clone body but what if they are stronger together. Everyone else is becoming a monster why not the twins becoming one stronger guy with two minds to focus on other things.

cerim

You are ignoring what was said in the chapter. It ISNT ignoring that PE, its just that PE is rare and not used often so the system doesn’t have enough data to adapt to it/limit it

John

"With the weredeer gone, the view on the screen shifts to where it had moved, but before it can return, it pauses and shifts to the south."

Gwiddion

True I missed that part still weird that the deer didn't finish off the group.

mulchymulcher

Rather than the system choosing not to limit it, the pantophagic PE is similar to empyrean skills or black mana because it's capable of bending or breaking the system's rules. It's a hint at the type of power empyrean skills would have had before they got fully incorporated into the system

jobe matula

I don't think so, he basically grabbed that little crybaby wyvern and wrung it's neck.. that was awesome.. I was never really invested in the twins I know a sacrifice character when I see one... I was way more fkd up about biscuit... but I knew a twin was gonna die.. or i thought maybe the gravity dude..

Edmund Dillon

Damn, I wonder what twin it was. Tftc!!!!!

zachery chase

I read that and it does not make sense in the world building you have to me. You have an entire clan of wolves who use this PE. Let’s say not all wolves can use pure enough PE to accomplish this limiting the amount of chances the system has to study it. You still have thousand of years of a clan with who knows how many have met the requirements and they have never been forced to go that far where the system could analyze the PE does not sound believable. Even more so, the system definitely knows this energy exist and has not tried to force it under its control when the systems main prerogative is to encompass everything.

Aldric

People can say whatever they want you sure know how to put tension in your story and makes us crave more

Gio

I bet Nat considered taking the baby wyvern's body, but he did not want to ruin floor 11 as well so he left it.

J W

But does Dennis and not Dennis call themselves? Daron?

zachery chase

Also, let me say reading the last few chapters was awesome. They read individually as amazing, thrilling scenes. My bigger concern with this is how do I stay engaged in future scenes when I have this concern that at any moment a system breaking power can be used. Not be used by someone who has earned the strength to break the system but a Rando that has a unique ability the system has not limited yet. What is to say that Nat get into a fight on a inhabited planet with a champion or absolute in the future and some random person level 150 transports him to unique dimension just by using something power the system has not seen. This would always be in my mind anytime things get serious

Lance Beam

TFTC. Biscuit will eat the Weredear. Lust will try and charm Biscuit. Biscuit eats Lust and becomes the new Ruler of Lust expressed as companion bonds and deep communication between soul mates...

Gwiddion

She will likely try but as kindness stopped ruby my guess is that she is asking charity to intervene and protect biscuit.

J W

No new body. Long live Darron. Hopefully they stay as one person. Would make them more interesting. Personally, I thought they should already be dead as they are just too weak. Maybe this will finally lead min-jae into going off on his own as well. Id like for him to become a foil character.

Death56

Damn biscuit missing tess missing a arm and one if the twins desd

Death56

Nothing it killed one of the twins

TheOne320

Damn, I hope they have a backup of the twin and Lily can create a new body. Also, who things Lust is running to catch Biscuit?

CrypticAnon

Rip Kevin, Hadwin, whitey, biscuit and now one of the twins(imma guess Dennis) TFTC

Nemesis

Reckon there is a chance that the dead twin was able to transfer his mind into the others body before death? Maybe Lily can fix the body and they can transfer him back?

Opal

The deer champion was literally in chains and imprisoned when Biscuit was snacking on it; it could not extert its power. This wyvern was wrecking the group with the inclusion of current Nat and Tess. If Biscuit was going to interfere it would have happened when the wyvern was still in the egg, or else Biscuit would've had to pull something to somehow eat the current wyvern while it's struggling, most likely putting him out of commission for when the weredeer inevitably showed up (or straight-up killing him).

Nemesis

How many non-lethal explosions involving a person can you think of 🤔

Sammot

Yeah I think charity is with biscuit, thats the only thing i can think of thst would make kindness say its fine.

lunatic

I like this, but i can also see them just being dead. To build more tension and reduce plot armor. Like we now biscuit is coming back in some way, so a twins death mat offset this somewhat.

frozzi

That's fine, most likely Ruler of Cruelty is ferret from that 9th floor and gonna defend his friend. Hence Kindess said its fine to let her go and try

Baelmoul

So one of the twins has died… T_T What’s going to happen to the brother now? I can’t even imagine the pain.

Baelmoul

nah he is dead for sure.

Blooper

Who was the being holding off mama wyvern? Also, if Nat leaves the floor before the baby wyvern dies, does he get the levels?

John

"Plenty of time still remains, though, and I bet the mama wyvern would sense if it got hurt and push through the weredeer."

Blooper

Also, blood spear? Did Nat know how to do this?

granndfunk

Ouch. What an impersonal chapter for a death of one of our characters.

Primo

Hope that just like the reanimated deer on the 9th floor, unless both twins are killed, none of them can die thanks to their connection, Great chapter also cementing the fact that the system is not perfect just always improving & adapting therefore can be abused

Irithyll

From my understanding, she ran to contain the mama dragon

TheOne320

What do you mean? Lust is outside the Tutorial and the Mama is inside. She could not have run to contain the dragon. Someone else was fighting the mother dragon.

Roy Mathews

The display of reading comprehension is pretty amazing.

BNiz

TFTC. Idk man, having a clan of wolves that are clearly rare and have clearly not exceeded certain thresholds with Pantophagic PE makes sense to me. It’s been clear that Biscuit has a connection with this PE that exceeds the norm, evident in BISCUIT tutoring a DIRECT descendent of the aforementioned clan. So for him to exhibit a trait or fleeting moment of power with said energy makes sense to me. It gives depth to the characters, shows that other members are advancing just as much as Nat, and most of all.. made me sniffle on my commute lol. TLDR: Good shit Cerim, keep the chapters flowing.

WINTEX

Lately it's kinda dumb and sloppy chapters. Author became lazy and keeps on making retrospective instead of actually writing the actions. Tess lost and eyes, and still was unable to get it back, Lily got in coma, one of the twin died, and among all the useless corgi who does nothing except for fan service is the third time is used as deus ex machina. And each time becomes more and more absurd. Yeah, right, destroying absolutes attack, damage the system, and why exactly? Because he was eating beef jerky? This is simply dumb. Also why exactly MC has not taken hatchling body?

Yells@Clouds

I really don’t like finding out about a party member’s death this way.

Nemesis

Kindness says there is no need to go protect Biscuit. Do you think Charity might be meeting up with him?

Nictis

Damn. One of the twins died. I was expecting them to be the next on the block since the showing of them being able to pass stats to each other, but still. Blegh.

Ivan Jelenić

Damn. That's rough. Some people/writers hate characters reviving. I wonder if Cerim is one of them or not. Will the twin be in the other's mind or actually dead? Reminds me of the triplets and Morwag.

Seijax

Did you read how they got the egg to begin with?

Blooper

I appreciate the kind reply, yes I totally forgot about that

Charles Travasos

I don’t know about the death of one of the twins. But I have liked all of the recent chapters nonetheless

IRLight

@Blooper Nat controlling his new Empyrean Blood

Nathan Holliday

Ok if one of the twins just died and all we got was a commentary from a lazy ruler on it I’m pissed.

NatXRuby

I feel like these deaths gives more weight to the story making it different from fairytales making it relatable atleast emotionally. RIP twin dude

Kradish

Makes me think that the reason Kindness was aware that Biscuit is fine is because Biscuit is kindness subspec and RoKindness is his handler. Did we ever see the subspec Biscuit chose or was it just assumed he noms and so is gluttony? Thinking back on a lot of Biscuits actions, there is a lot of kindness (even just looking at his sacrifice).

Al

Biscuit ain’t gone, just down for the round. Our future absolute will be back

E

It’s always one of the twins that gets shafted

John

I disagree with cerim beeing lazy or bad chapters, i think they are very clearly well written and intressting. I Also think he explained quite some things in this chapter that limit the damage done by Biscuit to the Powerhierarchy. But i agree on finding it strange, why nat didnt take the Wyvrenbody and Tess not healing with Lilly.

DocSmitty

Lust gonna go F up the weredeer since it just made her look bad/weak in front of all her handler friends? (Since presumably Biscuit’s system breaking teleport could have tossed it out of the tutorial)

granndfunk

Dude, this floor just went to shit because something came from the previous floor. Even if this floor was weaker overall, who knows what bringing that wyvern would do to the new floor.

John

Imagine them, while one dying, putting all the stats in the remaining one and also escaping his body with his mind. would be one body with double Stats and 2 minds

John

did you read the chapter? 1. she is going to biscuit, but kindness said its fine, so we wont worry 2. weredeer is killing the mamaWyvren while the floor is done -> will end with the floor haveing no attendees left

John

Yesss, i sometimes just respond with a short quote from the chapter they supposedly just read.

John

Hopefully they shifted all their attributes to the surviving one

Predyca

Cerim, you can be mean sometimes ♥

Mark Bullock

This is wut I understood. Great work!

Heraclitus

I wonder if the merked twin can be revived with a few skills. Connection, Reconstruction, Declaration, Redistribution and Manifestation. Something like that.

Boyo

One of the twins dying feels like a minor cop out. Sure but one of their bodies died, but presumably they’ll both be fine in one body. They were already moving that direction anyway. Biscuit being lost, on the the other hand, is a real punch in the balls

Primo

Tess fucked up her eye with declaration hence it cannot just be healed that easily (she prob declared something close to having an op eye) and why would Nat bring another body again after all that happened with body fuck ups and looting being the last of his worries after two companions presumed deaths, Too many people are complaining about cerim writing, but just show a lot of lazy reading imo

Kenny

He doesn't have a handler, he isn't a normal beyond attendee he just piggy backed there as Nat's bond

Primo

They are compared to the race with empyrean blood which their thaumarch was as strong as a ruler which pride said was the strongest opponent he ever faced before liss and people cannot fathom that biscuit can fuck up with the system a little by being so talented with that energy

GloinJr

Ngl I was just thinking the other day that it had been a while since a member of the crew died, and figured it would be one of the twins. Unfortunately it's one of the easiest ways to up the stakes, their group has been doing too much dumb shit recently.

Kenny

Yeah connection seems like such a cool skill. I had liked the way they were developing too, connecting to opponents skills and taking them over, sharing stats between each other etc. It feels like Lily should be able to reconstruct their body from even a piece of flesh.

BNiz

Right it’s kind of funny in a “not paying attention” way. Also messing with the system isn’t directly related to one’s power, but with the system not being fully familiar with the “type” of power and the way it interacts with the world. Since the pantophagic power is clearly rarely used or mastered, it makes sense that a prodigy like biscuit would have a very minuscule but impressive impact like this.

Micken

I feel like Tess is not healing with Lilly because the wound is caused by her Declaration skill. Using Lilly could be considered "cheating" the Declaration skill and ending up undermining her progression.

TBONEMAN

Its great that kindness accepted the new name of black mana just to annoy us readers

John

BTW, all this biscuit drama lets us forget: NAT KILLED A CHAMPION LEVEL WYVREN. Not only killed but singlehandly contained, wich is harder for sure. Yess it was just born but its stated that it reached champion level power during the time he contained it. So his manacontrol is higher than low champion. "There are bets on how long he will be able to endure, with many guessing just ten minutes as the hatchling continues to grow and learn at a rapid pace, soon to reach the level of a Champion’s power." and "The hatchling finds itself incapable of doing anything. It cannot break through, it cannot mimic black mana, and it cannot develop the mana control necessary to shatter the man’s ability. "

Andrew

Thank you!

granndfunk

Wait, who stopped the Mama Wyvern? I thought it was Nat but he was dealing with the Hatchling.

Shawn

If he didn't kill off Soph or tess and lily. I doubt he'll actually kill one of the twins. They have probably done some hacky connection nonsense to stay alive and lily will have to like regrow an whole body. Or Soph yoink his mind out or something cool like that

karmaslap

Weredeer got teleported there

The Gerg

Tyftc he will come back he said he'd find nat agein as for one of the twins I feel like they will also come back somehow

Nat-Thaniel

Nat left his black mana vessel when he stepped into the portal. I'm stoked to find out why

ariel maoz

Prediction: the twin is going to say the other is living in his mind talk with two personalities etc, only for something like this in a couple of chapters: Nat: so what do you think? Soph: nat I scanned the twin mind and... Nat: yes I know Soph: he thinks he has his brother in his mind Nat: yes I know Soph: what are we going to do about it? Nat: I dont know

MxMokele

I figured she just knew Biscuit was gonna be bailed out/was actively being bailed out by his disciple's clan

Augustus

Eat all the food! Lust better not have any plans for the burrito! Also poor twin betting he mind hoped to his twin, now no one will be able to tell them apart!

Madje Tobi Marc'Avent Tchona

They not bout to do less dumb shit tho… the more the danger the more they dive into it. They just train harder

Andika Pratama

Did you even read the story? What biscuit did has consequences.. Whats the one thing biscuit value the most? His bond and memory of nat.. of which he also devour.. Do you think eating all monsters at end of 9th floor or the one killing the ferret worth his memory and bond with nat? I don't think so.. This time around he did it, because thats the only way to save Nat from dying.. That being said, i agree there has to be a very heavy consequences to Biscuit able to do all this..

Miranoji

I guess cerim wasnt wrong when he indirectly called our reading skills abysmal…

Andrew Miller

Thank you for the chapter today! I can't wait to see what you have in store for the death of one of the twins! My guess would be a grand trial for Lily replicating the other twins body with her healing and Sophie stuffing the missing twins consciousness into that vessel.

granndfunk

Oh, I thought Biscuit disappeared with it

Jason Pyle

I agree with the sentiment that Lily could create a new body, but I think keeping both minds in one body and developing, through an evolution of [Connection], an ability to create duplicate bodies beyond the illusionary ones.

Jason Pyle

That or they'll stay in one body but grow a second head.

Brady

Maybe it just contained too much mana to control. He can always form another vessel

Jordan Jones

Honestly, at this point there is no way whatever it is called is good enough to satisfy me on black mana’s “true name”. I have theories, but they are just…pointlessly lackluster. If Cerim couldn’t think of one good enough, I hope that he continues the bit until the whole verse just calls it black mana. I think that is lame, but I think it is more lame to hold out this long, tease readers from an outsider’s perspective, and then give us a name that falls flat.

John

I think its stulid not to take it, after he showed such dominance, it beeing dead, and them growing stronger.

Jordan Jones

Even if it is true that he isn’t a true beyond attendee, he still has a subclass. I agree that it isn’t Gluttony, which would make the most sense, but Kindness, which also makes a sort of, but lesser, sense.

Primo

Nice growth that Nat can now fuck up fresh champions just like the grandpa trait after following his advice

Kirin

Thank you for the chappie!

Jordan Jones

My take is that if it’s a death, make it a true death. I like when writers fully commit to culling the cast, if it is for purpose. If NotDennis has this true loss to deal with, guided through, it will make for a lot of narrative growth for many side characters, including Min Jae, who should absolutely have to step up, or perhaps risk the other twin. Loss, grief, resulting motivation, recriminations for responsible parties (Nat, Tess), etc. As much as I dislike the tactic (group drama) narratively, pushing to get as strong as they are, taking insane, reckless, stupid risks like on the last floor…there being no consequences would cause there to be less stakes. And less tension. Been a while since we lost one, and I’d actually prefer it be like last time, an RIP. Still think some fuckery is involved with other twin still somehow being a part of the story, but could just be a way of explaining Nat’s “focus” through it, rather than detailing what happened from his POV, as it could be seen as weakness or failure.

GloinJr

Oh yeah it'll def make them train harder. I'm just saying that almost getting the whole squad wiped out by the imprint left in a corpse was crazy work, then they followed it up by diving into the depths of the planet that corpse was on to search for more powerful corpses which ultimately led to this whole weredeer situation. They either gotta be smarter or have the strength to back up their dumbness

im Panda

It's a bomb. He knows the mama is coming so he turned it into a bomb hoping to kill both wyvern's

TBONEMAN

It's ok. They can connect to nat and befriend mapthaniel. Maybe try to learn something similar to manifestation.

Alexandre Coelho

Most devious narrative progression imagineable. I hope it happens.

Asterrahl

Huh, we'll see. I'm fine with one of the twins being dead-dead, stuff happens and should stick sometimes. I also could accept that they developed a skill where so long as one is alive, the other cannot die, just like the weredeer we recently met. It has been my experience that Cerim will both surprise and exceed expectations, things do not go how I can imagine, and I'm very impressed at the end. No pressure. My own preference is that anything goes but no excessive whining please, like when a tertiary character everyone forgot even existed takes 20 chapters to finally finish dying, then there are 80 chapters of follow-through. And it never really ends. Definitely not Cerim's style, which is part of why I like this series so much. He doesn't faff about! A pretty important character died and it even happened off screen, quietly, quickly, as it would in a battle. Bam, dead. A reminder that the stakes are real, a shovel to the face for the complacent reader who begins to grow cozy and comfortable, thinking they see all that will be at this point. Hehe, no.

RJ

I would have taken that Wyvern heart and added it if I was Nat. Also warning to Cerim if Biscuit is not ok and doesn’t make a full recovery get ready for a cascade of bad reviews!!!

Hms

So much for having the cute little dragon bond with Tess to create an unholy combo. That damn Bambi's curse really f'd things up this floor.

Sir Supports Alot

Biscuit is gonna be fine, we will just have to cut our plushies in half to make it lore accurate ❤️❤️

Hms

Could also be to kill that Weredeer and Dragon. Forgot if kills caused after departure from floor counts

Val the mysterious Jedi

Hell tutorial showing us again how brutal it can be. I know people aren't going to like this but group four was fighting things above everyone not in beyond level of skill. even most beyond attendees would have been smoked by the baby wyvern.

P K

Guys the twins have a connection, they have experience in mind palaces, they have experience in putting a mind into a physical corpses, they have lilly that can regrow entire bodies from limbs, no way is this a true death

DeadbearKill

Just clone a body or duplicate one with Vic. Transfer mind that’s hanging out in mind palace connection. Boom. Two twins are basically one person anyways.

MxMokele

I figure its a mostly risk free way to farm a ton of extra rewards from the floor. His vessel should prevent things from disappearing, and at least in theory Nat himself should be completely safe, able to just manifest a new vessel.

DeadbearKill

IMO should have been Maya or Min. Personally think the loss of Min after his growth would be really good for the story

DeadbearKill

I also think when it comes to resolutions and “what happens next” and even abilities… Cerim does not disappoint. Even one off abilities I still think about like that Mana Parasite. I trust he’s cooking something interesting if the twin is so survive in someway and something interesting if he’s dead-dead and the fallout / growth of that.

John Doe

I don't think I want to read tomorrows chapter until the weekend is over and I can read past any cliffs.

Riot89

Epic chapter. Love the chang in perspective.

NatXLily

was probably empyrean mana

NatXLily

thats what should happem

JustWamIt

They could use their connection to live in the same body, that could make for a crazy change

NatXLily

that wpuld be best protection

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Still a cope and retcon. Feels like harry potter writting. Bending backward, running between holes desperatly patching them up afterward through retcons. Putting some of the bullshetery load on the PE, and then saying : Oh but it wasn't adapted or exterminated because it didn't cause system interference that often. ( which feels like a counter to some of the reason I said why it made no sense. Cerim does read comments after all.) But I digress. I'll just live on with the shit. Biscuit will always make the lore bendover assbackward to buy plushies. [Edit: I shouldnt have said that] Final edit: [This first comment was overtly negative and mean. I won't edit it to be honest/not disingenuous. Let me rephrase. The reason were attenuing factors, but as I said in previous chapter's comment. Not enough. Too big a feat, and if 50 is the max I can accept, it's 1000, and these factors lowered it to maybe 400, 500? I found a clearer way to explain it, and what level of factors would be needed, a bunch of other possible attenuating factors and what might even need to be changed in the earlier books, but it seem not to be wanted. ] The harry potter writting insult is more for: If these reasons were thought of after the facts.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Could simply be to protect against backshot. But I don't see the bomb killing the wyverns. At best its a fuck you. Might kill approaching weakened champions though.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

If you want to retcon it even more. Biscuit teleporting the wyvern is more plausible. Remove system interaction. Biscuit still reacted to and stopped a space surpassing absolute level attack. Which is still garbage.

NatXLily

biscuit would lose probably all memories and wind up on planet with charity or his disciple ... disciple would remind him of nat and bam they would eventually find each other or charity would help as it knows being alone

cerim

some of you guys just love to bullshit, dont you? how the fuck would you know what im thinking, what i did or did not after reading the comments or what my plans are or were? i write on MY logic and the way i like, and the was that makes sense to me. if i had to adapt to every asshole complaining in the comments this story would turn to shit very quickly. im always open to feedback, and dont mind doing some changes if i think it will make the store better. but it really doesnt help see some ppl throw a tantrum and shittalk for multiple chapters. either learn to communicate like decent human being or stop commenting. you are free to ask me for refund any time and i will give it to you no questions asked

NatXLily

New single body twin ... double stats double trouble .. connection ranked up to twin body biscuit loved bond most so either memories and bond sacrificed for skill or just bond and location those woulf be nice choices

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

One aspect I dislike in a story isn't enough to make my dislike it as a whole. I've been here for years cheering you up. And I will for a long time. I like you and your work. And (the part I disliked) passed. We won't be seeing biscuit for a while, and well, I'll just accept whatever nonsense come related to him once we comes back. Not every story are perfect. It seems only my #2 has no single individual element I dislike. I don't dislike the story. In fact, I quite like it, it's my top 3-4 of all time and I've read a lot of books, It's the story I've kept up with daily for the longest time, and even my first online purchase. I just dislike the way you handled Biscuit. He's clearly your favorite character and you have bias toward him. Criticism is criticism. It's not hate or meant to offend. Biscuit is now lorewise one of the most important characters, yet the ways he was treated up untill somewhat recently was a gag character. Maybe that was your intentions and it changed, or maybe it wasn't. Maybe you wanted biscuit to become like that since chapter 1. But if that's how it is, then you simply portrayed it badly, and accidentaly painted the wrong images in the early books. Anyway, he certainly lacked importance in the early story. Anyway, they are already written, and I wouldn't see it as a criticism toward you if your early work had an error. (Aka, if you always wanted biscuit to be like that, I'll take it that it was a portrayal problem in the early books, made by a growing author, rather then a bad decision on present you) I certainly can't read your thoughts. I don't know what's intentional, what's not. What's a missunderstanding, a portrayal error, or what's a changing decision. Nevertheless, as with the first champion dear, the parasite and now, it's been 3 times he was used as a way to solve a problem in a "deus ex machina" manner. If we exclude biscuit, you have one of the most internally consistent power system I've seen, and you've made the capabilities along the way very clear, and very well set whats the power limit, on top of walking the line of revealing and hiding the level of abilities of thr top tier.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Anyway, I won't be shit talking it in later chapters. As I said, biscuit is gone. So I'm happily gonna return to neutral and like whatever you have planned next and cheer you up. I don't have a grudge. I just kept up with it because it was two consecutive chapter that dealt with the same element. And unless biscuit kills pride in the next 100 chapter or something that massively tops the bullshit level of that feat, I'll just keep silent about it.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

In this chapter for example, I like the stuff that happened with nat. I liked that such a massive event had the consequence and one of the twins is dead (or at least temporarily out). [I liked the twins so I'm also sad that he's gone]. It help set the stakes. It helps makes it clear that they can be hurt. I liked that it's not just a happy go lucky, or a walkijng dead killing for the sake of killing. I liked the lust reveals. And I liked the way you handled their perspective changes. You probably have some creative idea for the environment of the next floor, and tomorrows comment will probably be like: "Thankd for the chapter. Wow that weird tree is cool" or something.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

I do not think you are seriously thinking about biscuit plushie sales as you give him ridiculous feats. If I ever implied that (and I think somewhere I indirectly or over dramatically did) [Edit: Yeah I did in the top comment, when I wrote this comment, I remember saying something like that, but I thought it was more indirectly somewhere in yesterdays comment section. ], that was disingenuous and mean of me. I'm sorry. [Again, edit: Yeah, that was very overdramatic and needleeslt mean comment ender right there.] I don't think you've sold out your integrity or somethint like that. I won't (for the foreseeable future) change my mind about what I dislike (unless somethign major happens), but as I said, I won't bring it up needlessly and repeatedly. I'm not a hater. I don't have a grudge. It was worth adding this comment to properly apologize

Liam Zay

Even if I agreed with your complaints (I don't) you are such a long winded dick about them it would be hard to be on your side. Nothing about this feels like a retcon you are just having a weirdly strong reaction because you don't like biscuit

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

I made quite the effort the be sincere in saying I like the story and feels sorry for where I went wrong, while making clear that i still dislike something even if someone pushes back. It's an inherent problems with text only as it lacks tone and everything. I tried my very best not too, but it seems the comments in this chains can be read in a mean tone. It is in no way the intention. I'm not the best at explaining my words. It seems more "" and other such characters are needed somewhere. I wasn't trying to twist the knife, or be passive aggressive or push back more. I inherently do not do that kind of thing. If I want to be mean or criticise, I am clear about it. I don't do compliment burgers. I'm clear about what I like, and clear about what I dislike. And I keep them separate.

jobe matula

ohhh that would be awesome

Johnny

Bro some of your concerns I even shared, but they were all addressed in this chapter. I came to the comments knowing you’d have something to say, and criticism is fine but it’s like you’re engagement farming in the comment section. Pure negativity. Your claim you were once supportive, if true, stopped being so hundreds of chapters ago. If you’re so displeased why read?

Johnny

Great chapter Cerim. Don’t let the few naysayers bother you, I’ve never seen a series with what seems like universal support like this- it’s why the few ragebaiters stand out. Fantastic work as usual

Dr.Awkward

Blahblah, guy pays 20 bucks a month to complain about stuff he feels entitled to 😭

ProfessorCat

Not liking Biscuit is okay, and you are entitled to your preferences, but none of this is bad writing. In fact, it is all excellent writing that fits snuggly within the world of HDT, but maybe not your head canon. It was made clear very early on that Biscuit is extremely talented, and that his PE is exceptionally rare and powerful. Cerim wrote it in a humourous manner, but it is still canon, and he wouldn't have made it canon if it was just a joke. I don't know how he could have made everything about Biscuit clearer without outright stating it, and he has practically done that multiple times already. Besides, Biscuit mildly inconveniencing the weredeer at great cost is not all that world-breaking. It is even less world-breaking when we have lots of precedent for certain abilities being able to interfere with and even damage the system. For mana's sake, the whole point of emperyean stuff is that they go against the system. In fact, now that I think about it, Cerim laid all the groundwork for this chapters ago with the Magi. Add that with the information from this chapter and a very clear picture is painted: Biscuit's PE is on a similar level to emperyean mana, and the only reason it hasn't been nerfed or eradicated is because the wolf clan with a monopoly on it are responsible and cautious with its usage. There are no plot holes, no retcons, and no handwaving going on over here, only the opposite. If you don't like that, don't. But to complain about it the way you have is very disrespectful and nonsensical. No one is forcing anyone to read or like this story.

Hardworking Guy

Dayuuuum! Things are getting spicy! I'm so happy it's not Thursday yet. Also, I believe the other twin didn't die, at least not fully. Cerim is too much of a genius to just kill a character like that when the connection and stat redistribution between the twins was mentioned. If it is that the twin actually died? Well, sucks to be him, this is still Hell difficulty and they were definitely the weakest link.

j km

Good stuff. One thing that wasn’t mentioned was whether he grabbed the tree fragment on the way out. Typically with focus he doesn’t miss details like that but with biscuit…

ForgottenDreams

You're miserable and you're poor understanding isn't shared

ForgottenDreams

Im honestly loving the return kn consequences. I felt the story was losing some grit after going so long wit no deaths or mutilation, but now tess is disfigured, biscuit is gone (with the bond) and one of the twins is dead. I love this turn of events.

Kid

So peak just pulls you deeper and deeper in as the chapters come

Tishane :Imperial MageKiller

I also think he didnt die maybe a twin soul kinda thing read a book once that had something called twins blood where when the twin died all the powers and his elemental magic which was lightning went to his brother and boosted him overall. Also kinda like vampire knight where twin hunters can devour each other to gain the complete power that was divided upon birth.

Hardworking Guy

Curious to see where this is going. Overall, I'm happy the tutorial is baring its fangs at the group again.

Joe Long

I think it used to be called “Empyrean Mana” named after the Empyrean Thaumarch mentioned above. Maybe? 🤔

Joe Long

Give it a mana body and transfer the mind into it.

Andika Pratama

Some of the reader (those complaining about biscuit breaking the lore) just have either lack of reading comprehension or lack of trust to our beloved cerim

Al

@op, If you’re having a bad day, I hope it’s gotten better.

Al

@cerim: Advice I give but would struggle to take - try not to let the negative commenters get to you. There are a couple in recent chapters, unnecessarily negative and mean for no reason. Either they’re having a really bad day, in which case I would suggest sympathy and forgiveness. Or they’re miserable assholes, in which case they are their own retribution by sewing misery throughout their own lives. I am loving these chapters and still a big HDT Stan, please keep writing this amazing series :)

Andika Pratama

But i always saw your name every chapter complaining poutine.. and you claim as cheering cerim up?? Biscuit being talented has been foreshadowed many times.. how would nat trust biscuit to take care of group 4 while he is not there is already sign enough for me.. And do remember that to do this feat, biscuit sacrificed the one thing he cherish the most, his bond and memory of nat

Subliminary

Hopefully it’s a “true death” in that they merge minds and stats since Cerim very obviously pointed out they could do that previously. This way he’s “dead” but doesn’t make his brother a liability since neither can really function alone within high level Hell

M Schweibold

Technically, isn’t Izzy weakest link?

Liam Zay

I hope floor 11 is a nice reprieve. They've been through some shit this floor and the end of the last one. At least they didn't bring weird body parts this time

Nemesis

What do you think, do Kindness' words soft confirm the previous name of Black Mana is Empyrean Mana? She said the Empyrean Thaumarch combined it with the ichor, which raises the possibility they both originated from their race. It would also explain why Nat was offered the ichor, since he uses the mana so much

Nemesis

I am thinking Nat is going to go through some self recrimination, accusing himself of taking it too easy lately and resolving to once again accelerate the rate he is 'running downhill'

Nemesis

On another topic, what do we think? Is spider lady secretly a ruler? Perhaps a disguise Ruby doesn't know

on the upside

No because there is another thing that IS called empyrean mana right? The stuff his spears are made of

Vinnie

Which one of the twins died? >:( shit got me tearin up !!

AL

What people complaining about Biscuit fail to realise is that we often get explanations or reveals in later chapters. Cerim masters the art of revealing crucial info in bits through the story. He has never failed to provide solid reasons for powers that may seem OP at first glance. I have never been disappointed since the start and have full confidence in the rest of the story. Hell, this may be the best book I have read in this category so far to this date.

Chun

I think this had to have happened at some point. I'm not saying they became "soft", but while you can never underestimate the tutorial floors, I would say they had an easier time on floor 9 compared to the previous floors. Nat himself likes to reflect on how interesting/weird it is that fighting and fearing for their lives in an alien setting has become the new norm. And floor 9's objective? To survive for a year, which meant there was no way to rush it. And while Min Jae did tell Nat (while they were catching up after Nat returned from the beyond) that all of them have had at least a couple of near-death experiences throughout the year on the floor, I would say they weren't in an sort of *true* danger until towards the end of the floor. Through living an entire year on the same floor and maybe falling into a sort of routine, they might have gotten a bit complacent. Group 4 is strong, VERY strong, the strongest group on earth , they get along extremely well and have the right mindset of always expecting shit to hit the fan, but I think no matter how much they tell themselves that the danger is there and *know* that death is very much real, at the end of the day, half of them are teenagers, and the oldest of them is maya at what? around mid to late twenties? Although they never outright underestimate the floors, to me they sometimes come off as overconfident and too lax while trying to complete the quests. Even though I have to admit that their approach to doing things has worked so far, floor 10's end will be a good reminder for them to maybe lock in a bit more as the floors will only get harder.

Hardworking Guy

Hmm, I either didn't even consider her a combatant, or I forgot if she's stronger than them individually. I do think she's stronger than them individually though.

Chun

Wow, you're spot on, if that does happen, I can literally imagine this is how that conversation would go.

Chun

Chapter 726: (Nat facing Hornless Demon) "The first thing I feel hearing that is anger. More blood gushes from my wound as I tense my body, and for the shortest moment, *the black orb floating above us halts, almost as if it’s listening to something. A thinnest thread of mana reaches out of it toward me*, looking like a spider thread trying to escape a whirlpool. Then the moment passes, and the thread disappears back into the hungry black orb that continues devouring anew. I cough and feel more blood fill my mouth." This chapter: "He should rely on his black mana more, allow it into his body, and let it turn him into a monster, hopefully just as powerful as the Empyrean Thaumarch once was." I think he almost did what Kindness described back when he was on that beyond quest on minion's world. I don't know or remember the difference between "allow[ing] it into his body" and him using the black mana in conjunction with skills like Focus, but from the looks of it, when it happened during his faceoff with the hornless demon, it was the black mana acting on its own and reaching out towards nat and reacting to his anger, rather than Nat consciously using it to power his mind/focus.

Name1

It’s his optimal state!

Name1

Yeah kinda wild to read 800 chapters and think they’d just mess up scaling like that now 🤣

Ben

I think she was just using the Thaumarch as a comparison of power rather than a direct link

Chun

To be fair this is what Elian said in chapter 793: “As for the Empyreans, their mutation, which many historians claim was linked to one of the powerful gods of the Pantheon, partially resisted the System. **This allowed their awakened mana to differ from that of others.”** I’m just inclined to believe the two mana are at least connected, because if I recall correctly this is the first mention of a different type of mana, other than black mana.

Majulla

They just didn’t show the hardships in detail. They mentioned on passing how many times each lf them came close to dying more than every other floor. It’s been far from “lax”. They’ve gotten better at adapting and we. The reader don’t see their conflicts to move the story forward.

thisisniall

Nat's Empyrean Lance is golden-white. His new blood also seems to be white-and-gold. Fairly certain this is the 'color code' as much as one exists for Empyrean skills. Elian also uses barriers/cubes of this color as a 'named Absolute'.

Zed

This should have been from Nat’s Pov. A random character casually describing a main character death feels lazy.

Chun

I don’t mean to downplay their efforts, and like you said maybe “lax” isn’t the right way to put it. Even then I more meant their attitudes rather than the harshness/difficulty of the floors, which is why I talked about Nat’s musings on humanity’s ability to adapt to a “new norm.” Since we mostly follow Nat’s POV, and not Tess (the one who usually plans stuff), like you said again I know we’re probably missing a big chunk of various backup plans and contingencies that she or other group 4 members might think up, and I don’t doubt that there are any, but Nat himself said it a few chapters back: “It’s our fault, isn’t it? We left the corpse of a deer near a finger, and then we left the egg near pieces of fake wyvern. Some people just don’t learn.” When I say they’re overconfident I don’t mean stuff like choosing to delve into the planet on the ninth floor and meeting the Lycan, because you have to take risks to grow stronger, and technically they did get something out of that which are the wyvern parts (even if that didn’t work out well). If anything it makes me like the story more, just in case I came off as hating.

Néstor Rocha

I hope the dead twin somehow managed to not only share his start with the surviving one, but maybe also had a failsafe that transferred his consciousness too. And we'll have two twins sharing one body either temporarily or maybe even permanently. They were falling behind after all, and Nat did give us an explanation on how combined they could become OP. Now only gravity boy and Maya need to power up somehow. And Izzy needs to level up more. Her level is pathetically low for the current stakes.

Broke Boy

Nope ur crazy the way he casually dropped it is amazing it’s so effortless it’s amazing

Sushitrash

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, I bet the Twins got some fuckery that they can only die if both die not one... Damn this chapter hits hard bro wtf

thisisniall

I wonder if the Ruler of Lust left to go try and kidnap Biscuit.

Shawn Treants

Wow biscuit and then one of the twins and it isnt even on screen...

True-Guesser

Nice to finally put a name to Biscuits primordial energy even if a synonym of that was clear for a while. BISCUITTTT!!!! 😭 😭 😭

wolf Bound

Damn so one of the twins are gone which means the other is crippled 😔