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“There are six races native to this universe, though there might be more drifting on the undiscovered edges. Our universe is incredibly vast, yet we know it is finite. Among these six races, the most powerful were the gods. Only a handful of dragons were able to match their Godkings, though most dragons stood on the level of average gods. Then, there were the elves, the mora, fae, and humans, just like you and me. Usually, they were much weaker than the others, left to their wit, effort, and willpower to find their place.”

“That must have sucked for them.”

“Certainly. Yet, it was all those other mighty races that failed to notice an invader and fell, while humans remain.”

“And the winner is the one standing at the end.”

“Yes. As for the gods, they were of many shapes and forms, born from concepts, energies, or collective thoughts. We simply no longer know how exactly they came to be. Like much of our history, even this was erased from the collective memories of the people by the system. Most remain ignorant, and the few who know do not dare to speak of it, lest they bring unwanted attention upon themselves.”

I glance at the wyvern that rests its head on the ground near Lissandra. He is also listening to the words he must have originally spoken to her. Lissandra continues to talk, but while she repeats the information given to her, her own thoughts bleed into her retelling.

“Every god possessed their own Elysian Framework, though many also called it a Divine Framework. It was something tied to their very being and the universe itself, making them near immortal.”

She reaches to her belt and draws the cracked black mana dagger. “But there was one god who was not fully a god. They came to be without an Elysian Framework, born with a Divine Heart instead. A heart pumping blood, just like the lesser races had. Unlike other gods, they were not even that powerful, possessing authority over an energy that was nearly non-existent in our universe.”

Lissandra taps the black dagger, making it let out a clear ring. The wyvern in the background lets out a deep, rumbly noise that lifts the dust from the ground.

“That god found their place among humans. From them came descendants later called Empyreans. Even with some of them possessing weaker Divine Hearts just like their god, they remained a weak clan. But that was about to change.”

It seems like she is offering me a chance to speak, but I stay quiet and listen.

She ignores the loud rumble behind her as she says, “I was told that god made an honest mistake. That they were kind and beloved and tricked just like everyone else. But in my opinion, they were a failure, just like the other gods and races of this universe.”

Lissandra’s voice for a moment rumbles louder than the wyvern trying to interrupt her, as she declares, “They have deservedly lost everything.”

At that, the wyvern stops, its huge eye looking at her with powerful intent, a deep sound shaking the air.

Lissandra turns to face it. “I do not care for the source of my power or that it comes from something unnatural to this universe. But call me a slave to the system one more time, and I will end you.”

An area outside of her protective field explodes. Hundreds of mountains shake and burst outward. Pieces as big as entire cities and islands lift high into the air as far as I can see. A mile, ten, even more as I strengthen my sight.

A shockwave continues to explode outwards, and more and more of them shatter, lifting and floating high up under an immense force I cannot comprehend.

“I am slave to no one, and my life belongs to me only,” she declares toward the gigantic wyvern facing her.

She is just a tiny, silver-haired human, many times smaller than the wyvern, many times smaller than its smallest fang. Yet, inside that tiny body, in that tiny brain, is contained all that incredible talent and control.

The wyvern lets out a short rumble, and only then do the debris begin to float down, sending out clouds of dust that cover the entire area as it hits the ground.

Lissandra turns back to me as if nothing happened. “That god, on one of their travels, came to the very centre of our universe, where they found that invader. At first, they did not know what it was. Even later, as it began to spread and others noticed it, they also did not think much of it. After all, in something as big as a universe, new powers appear daily, and no one was aware of its true nature.”

Her words halt for a few moments, as if a word brought back another memory, until she shakes her head. “The system at its core strengthens what already exists and evolves. One of its main functions is to spread. It made a contract with that god, and parts of that contract still lie in the core of the system, even if it tries to remove them. That might be one of the reasons why it cannot easily take away what it has given. What I speak of is everything the god shared with the dragons and wyverns before dying, after they realized the true nature of what they had found.”

Moving even closer, the wyvern carefully touches the tip of its lip to the dagger Lissandra holds, and lets out a quiet noise.

She nods. "In the beginning, the black mana god served as the protector and Champion of the system alongside their descendants, the Empyreans. By simplifying and adapting, the system copied the nature of black mana to create a version of its own. It modeled Mana Hearts after the god’s own Divine Heart to awaken system mana. Together, the god and the Empyreans protected the system while it was at its weakest and as it began to spread."

“What did the black mana god get from that deal?” I ask.

“Try using that brain of yours, little pup,” she challenges me, and stops talking to wait for my answer.

I give it a few seconds, looking at the black dagger and sensing the heart beating in my chest before saying, “Were the gods more powerful the more their concept and power was spread throughout the universe?”

Lissandra agrees in satisfaction. “They were, indeed. And though system mana was not exactly the same as black mana, the god grew far more powerful because of it. Perhaps it was part of their precautions, a small seed of distrust toward the power they found. Maybe they wrote it into the contract so the system could not copy black mana, ensuring they would always retain control over it. Maybe the system never had enough data to fully monitor or restrict it, whereas the more powerful gods provided plenty of data for the system to work with.”

“And maybe it allows people to control black mana now to gather data in a controlled manner,” I note, “rather than sending eradication quests after them.”

“It could be, but at this point, black mana poses no threat to it, nor do the powers of gods, dragons, or primordial energies. The system has observed it all and adapted. Eons after the system first appeared, it became too threatening, and the universe finally noticed. The then Godking of black mana and the Empyreans ceased to be its protectors and became its enemies, but the system simply found new ones. One hundred Rulers came to be, and many humans joined their side. Entire galaxies fought to keep the power that the gods, dragons, and elves of old tried to take away, while the mora joined the war and fought on both sides, and fae disappeared.”

In surprise, I feel my eyes widen. I glance at the wyvern and then back to Lissandra.

“Of course, it was not easy,” she continues. “The black mana Godking, the Empyreans, the Emperor of Dragons, the Queen of Elves, and the Primordial Orders led the attack, damaging the very structure of the system. They forced it to change and slowed the system's spread, but it was already too late. The System War was lost. The name of the black mana Godking was erased from living memory. As for the black mana you control? It is merely the remains of that god present within the system, a shadow you can touch if you reach deep enough. It is something I have tried as well, though I seem incapable of reaching. It seems to recognize me as a creation of the system.”

A small smile appears on her lips, as if she finds the fact amusing. “But that is all it is. Black mana is what remains of that pitiful god. The Empyreans are nearly erased, and without a Divine Hearts, their power is greatly diminished. Like all the others, they were and are just a part of the system. Powerful, yes, but not special. The system is gradually making Empyrean Skills common, just as it did with Primordial Energies and the fragments of gods. You playing with black mana is like a child poking a corpse found on a battlefield.”

She gestures for me to come closer, and I listen. She pushes me down onto a small stone and walks behind me. Her hand moves over my head, and my hair falls away, cut clean to reveal bare skin. She begins to draw inscriptions, drawing a bit of my blood to create a dense web that spreads into a fine, drawn crown and a series of lines across my scalp.

“Thought acceleration is usually the purview of mind mages, though if you are capable enough, you can partially mimic what they do,” Lissandra says.

Before I can ask a question, she taps the top of my head.

I feel myself forcefully pulled into my mind, finding myself in that never-ending white space. Suddenly, the pain, the strain of trait strengthening, and the pressure of my constructs are all gone.

My hand moves across my hairless skull. “Was shaving me truly necessary?”

“Little pup, do not tell me you care so much for your appearance,” she says, changing before my eyes. Her body grows taller, her silver hair dims slightly, and wrinkles crease her face as her clothes transform into a black suit more suited for a man. “But perhaps I am being too harsh. Many of the young care for such things, it is only later that they cease to matter.”

Lissandra now looks exactly like the version of her I met on the second floor.

After walking for a bit, she stops in front of me. “There are, and always will be, disadvantages to thought acceleration. Your status will not update, your muscle memory and mind will not adapt fully to your training, and you will not ingrain these gained instincts into your physical form. Lastly, you will never be able to sleep here properly. A few days is not a problem, but gradually your mind will become tired, weak, and muddled, or outright break. That is why I warn you, after we are finished here, avoid such high thought acceleration for at least several months. I have seen even the most talented people die from abusing this, and I have seen many gain nothing from their training, no matter how hard they tried.”

“That is my problem to manage, is it not?” I answer her. “You simply do what you think is best, and I will deal with the rest.”

“Very well. We will start by testing you against my released presence, the version of me you encountered on Eladore,” she says. “We will start with ten percent.”

The moment she finishes speaking, a monstrous amount of mana radiates from her. Perhaps 'monstrous' is not the right word, it is not about the volume, but the sheer, crushing power of it. I try to resist, but it presses against me until I feel my body explode.

In the next blink, I am standing exactly where I was before. I’m healed, but the memory of the death is fresh in my mind.

“I will continue until you can handle at least fifty percent of it,” she speaks coolly. “Even if it takes months, we will not move on to anything else.”

Once again, I don’t have time to respond. In the presence of her uncontrolled power, my body explodes, and I find myself reappearing in the same spot.

All other thoughts vanish from my mind as I focus on this alone.

Let’s make this a matter of days, not weeks or months.

POV Vice Guild Master of Primordial Knights

The door to my office in the Megacity bangs open, but before I even have time to shout at the demon barging in, I notice who it is.

Taking a few calm steps on her bare feet, Nyssa Volare reaches my table. Wearing white shorts that barely reach her knees and a light blue tanktop, she stands there. There are wounds on her body, but her clothes remain perfect, and her eyes are sharp.

"Vice Guild Master, tell me where MorMor, Nathaniel, and Weslin are."

Every time I speak with her, it is impossible not to understand why everyone keeps saying she is one of the most talented attendees Beyond has had in millennia. If it weren't for Christoph, she would be even more praised.

But even then, even though there's a hint of fear I feel despite knowing her personality, I can't help but complain. "The new Guild Master took them on an expedition," I say through my teeth.

"Where?"

The words come out of me as if I'd left them suppressed for too long. "They took another S rank and future S rank as well, and the five of them have been making a mess ever since! When I asked for the name of the expedition for our files, do you know what the Guild Master told me? 'Nathaniel and the Boys.' Would you believe that?!"

"I see, but-"

"Since then, I keep getting messages from all the guilds asking if they did something wrong! The kings are getting worried about that many S ranks, and a few guilds have made defense pacts with each other and keep paying extra to their A ranks to stay in Beyond and hire mercenary guilds for defense! There is a new zone void of mana on the 3rd floor, and people say it is where Diligence himself manifested. On the second floor in the third city, Morwag destroyed the headquarters of a mid sized guild and got banned for 100 years from the city, and we had to pay an enormous fine! In the first city, there are rumors that Primordial Knights erased a branch of the Healing Guild, but the Champion King of it got so scared of our S ranks that he just let them go. All the fish from Lake City are gone! Such overfishing is against the rules, and it will take decades for the lake to repopulate. Apparently, some guide named Duncan is now holding them and saying that if anyone touches any, our Guild Master will declare guild war on them. Oh, and yes, for a few minutes, all the lurkers from the 1st floor disappeared. ALL OF THEM. People were picking up arcane weapons from the ground. There was later a floor-wide message from Diligence, so there are rumors that he lost control of his emotions again, the same as with the Ancient Armory. And since then, we lost sight of them, and they apparently headed to the surface."

I take a few long breaths, feeling relieved, but that relief decreases as I look at Nyssa, who stands there patiently.

"I apologize," I stand up and bow, keeping my head in that position.

"It is okay, Vice Guild Master. I’m not a Guild Master anymore, and I didn't return to take back the position." Her eyes narrow. "But I have seen the rankings, and I guess I’m a demon after all."

She doesn't smile, but a cold, predatory focus settles over her face. "I will be testing myself against... the boys."

Next Chapter

Comments

Pazl

Thanks for the Chapter

Oaktree

Actual Chapter 839- Black mana Pov nat: Part way through liss speaking Redacthaniel takes over and starts censoring everything Liss gets about two sentences further before she realizes something is happening, she says something else and as Redacthaniel turns it to “redacted black mana” her faces turns to disbelief for a moment. Then with her normal calm expression asks why I would make such a sub-mind. Before ai can even answer she stares at me even more intently than before and says you can’t hide from me. I question who she’s taking about before an image of a child in a cape appears in my mind.

Death56

Nat vs Nyssa can't wait

Amelgar

guess MorMor will get to fight Nyssa after all

J W

Mormor getting another chance against nyssa and Nathaniel will get to try out his training in real world after nyssa bodies the boys crew.

TDMC

Alright so mana comes from black mana, which comes from the first guy who had what was effectively the first mana heart and created the empyreans Nat has empyrean blood, access to black mana and is looking to forcefully upgrade his mana body trait through his empyrean blood, blood naturally being reliant on the heart. So Nat’s end game is totally making a divine heart (or better) through his black mana and various traits, isn’t it. Nothing says mana tyrant than basically becoming the incarnation of the guy who was the literal source of it and had his divinity empowered through others using mana

Nemesis

Maybe Earth is a colony of Empyrean refugees after they lost the war with the System?

Fdrugc

Tftc I hope Morwag has enough time left to have fun with Nyssa

tyhuko

TFTC! Boot Camp! Attention Private Gwyn, you will be experiencing a Hyperbolic Chamber pressure until you can take it maggot! Report back once you can take on 50%!

blaw

Was the black mana god the king of the empyrians that Pride praised as the best/ most challenging fight he ever had? Or was that god killed along with any other god before?

Jeppe Fiig

And Nat vs Morwag, let the Demon Games begin 🤩

MxMokele

So what I'm reading is that mana daddy is on the path to take over the position of the primordial mana daddy and become the God of Mana?

Nemesis

The legend of Diligence and his fiery temper continues to spread!

Nemesis

A good question!

Nemesis

If it wasn't before, then it probably is a goal now. But we know Nat, why would he ever be satisfied walking anothers path? I am sure he intends to go further

Val the mysterious Jedi

That nyssa ending had me dying, poor vice guild master, also "why would diligence steal all the loot" again should be on all beyond newspapers in bold letters

Apollo

GREAT CHAPTER!

Baelmoul

Thanks for chapter. Needed it very badly. Am i addicted??

Adrian Rake

Nyssa is pissed. Her ranking has gone down the drain. 😂

Isaac Lung

Gods sound like C’tan from 40k

Morgs

Great chapter! Little mistake here I think “The Empyreans are nearly erased, and without a Divine Hearts, their power is greatly diminished.” Should it be “without their divine hearts” or maybe “without a divine heart”?

Thien T

One of these days Nat really should try to let Black Mana enter his body like Kindness suggested. He might even gain a 4th trait out of it: Empyrean Heart, so that he could then evolve it into a Divine Heart further down the line. Nyssa about to test herself not against the boys but Godking Candidate Nathaniel after he's done with his Training Arc.

Demi

oh? well that is some biscuit level sustenance for all the tinfoils!

Borbino the great

I think he’s going to hold out as long as possible for that I can definitely see the strength of his other traits affecting the outcome

Melih

If Nathaniel’s POV gave me goosebumps and left me completely spellbound, the Vice Guild Master’s POV had me cracking up :D Poor old man, all that stress must have taken years off his life

Arnon Parenti

Nyssa and The Girls have to have their own adventures, there are a few women around with a nasty punch, and they probably all got some anxiety when looking at the boards.

I Is Patron

And so the Ruler of Diligence, the petty creature that it is, shaves the head of the Guild master of the primordial knights. Perhaps an attempt to shame Nathaniel for his alleged "hubris". Does the Ant know no shame? And then the Ruler goes on to claim that it was in fact the Mana Tyrant who destroyed the armoury and created a mana void on the 3rd floor. Who would believe such blatant lies?? Not after the greedy Ant stole all of the arcane items from innocent floor 1 attendees.

Gio

I have a theory; kindness is the last empyrean, and the system granted her immortality because the deal the system made with the mana god needs the mana gods descendants to exist. If kindness died, the system would be in breach of that contract.

Primo

He lowkey enjoys it too haha, what a crazy lad 😂

Primo

When I realise Nyssa might have 5 traits as the demons cheat, I just can't see any hope for the boys right now if she got great ones due to her achievements & synergized it 😭, I mean she already soloed a champion months ago, Mama Nyssa about to spank them kids 🔥

Manaless

The BOY'S. 😂

Bandit General

I beg your pardon, don’t you see the nat, gonna be a monster. A true monster, like he should have been

Oaktree

Theory time If like the system learns from those who use it or are part of it people who have mastered something such as an active skill the system takes that knowledge as part of itself. So when liss offered her knowledge of control as part of her challenge against tyven, the system deem her knowledge worthy not just because she had it in the 99 or higher level but because the systems ideas and knowledge of “control”were because of it learn from her. “Maybe the system never had enough data to fully monitor or restrict it, whereas the more powerful gods provided plenty of data for the system to work with.” The system monitored liss to understand the skill “control”.

Manaless

I don't think so, considering that the Gods had been dead for a long time and the one who fought with pride was an Empyrean with dark mana.

Tiarnaria

mana tyrant? whose that, i only know of Mana Daddy

Primo

Yeahh Nat is gonna be a monster after this Liss army bootcamp yet I can't underestimate Nyssa, like she has somekind of dragon blood she is not supposed to survive that wrecks her body as she gets stronger in the lines of what Nat is going throught with mana & imagine 5 traits on the same level as Nat synergized

Compendium

Diligence needs to control himself, sending the boys to the 12th floor to kill them and mess with Nyssa is way out of line

Drunkgnome

Yes. Yes you are. That is all.

Drunkgnome

He only has a few days left. He needs to hurry the fuck up.

ChildConsumerServices

Nyssa and "The Girls" but the group consists of Tacita, Nyssa, Lissandra, Ruby and Kindness and we get to watch The Boys get absolutely pasted in the first half second

Nemesis

Very interesting idea

TDMC

If he does at least reach a point where mana effectively becomes a divine domain for him, then potentially growing powerful and skilled enough that he can take mana itself back from the system’s control could be a true end game for him.

Arnon Parenti

Nah rulers are out, and liss is just cheating, can take Sophie, Taci, Lili, the woman Brich is scared i thing Yisolde, lots of women can paste our Bois without reporting to Rulers and Absolutes.

Majulla

I think he wants to avoid copying others who failed already. That seems like the core of his mindset.

Liam Zay

With his empyrean blood and future body upgrades maybe Nat will become recognized as an empyrean in the future allowing kindness to die, and then giving her immortality to nat. That would certainly help with his bodies desire to self destruct

Ralph

Super cool theory. Maybe his twice upgraded blood will evolve his physique into something Empyrean and lead to him later developing a Divine heart. These changes alongside his mana manipulation, black mana and Empyrean lance could lead to Nat being registered as another Empyrean, allowing Kindness to die.

Liam Zay

I bet she'll beat up the others while nat is still in the mind acceleration, and then he'll come out and test his new power against her

Andrew

Thank you!

Michael Williams

Interesting about the beginnings of the system. Also interesting that there used to be 100 rulers? I am keen to see how Nats training goes, also upcoming fight with Nyssa!!! Much hype. Thanks for the chapter.

John

"... One hundred Rulers came to be, and many humans joined their side. ..." So there are at max 100 Rulers at a given time? I thought its like 13...

Chun

Chapter 835: “In a way, the system makes things that break its rules more difficult for a Ruler to do, or it comes at a greater cost." This chapter: “The then Godking of black mana and the Empyreans ceased to be its protectors and became its enemies, but the system simply found new ones. One hundred Rulers came to be, and many humans joined their side.” So that’s why… because the original 100 rulers were the replacements in place of the black mana god and empyreans as the system’s champions/protectors. It would then make sense for the rulers to be the most restricted when it comes to going against the system. Also, there used to be 100 rulers? I wonder what their titles were based on if the current 14 are 7 Blights and 7 Radiances (Virtues and Sins).

Thien T

“And maybe it allows people to control black mana now to gather data in a controlled manner,” I note, “rather than sending eradication quests after them.” “It could be, but at this point, black mana poses no threat to it, nor do the powers of gods, dragons, or primordial energies. The system has observed it all and adapted." Does this not sound similar to something Nat is trying to achieve himself by observing and improving his most recently acquired Mid Epic Passive?

Josh Betts

I dont think nat is gonna become the next mana god for the simple reason that he lost.

Nemesis

So, was I right in interpreting that Liss' story indicates the Fae just vanished? They weren't necessarily wiped out, they just disappeared? So they could be hiding, or maybe they changed their appearance somehow (disguised/biologically changed to 'Feylith')? I am also curious as to why all the other elves are dead bar one.

Gwiddion

My guess is that over time those 100 got consolidated into the 14 current ones.

Kevin

That’s a good point. I like that.

Kevin

Presumably the System later changed it to 14 from 100. If it were possible to have more than 14 rulers there’d likely be more than 14 rulers.

Nemesis

Does Lissandra not realise that black mana used to power skills supercharges them and provides additional effects?

Madje Tobi Marc'Avent Tchona

Even with no status updates, or instincts created or memories forged, this training experience would allow him to start level up his skills at an insane pace after. Because of the added knowledge. Just how a weak powerless Christoph was able to level his skills fast enough to survive in beyond because of absolute memories.

Sean

*1 year later* "Phew, that was a long training session." "What do you mean feral one? She cut your hair and tapped your head, how is that training?" *Nat silently repeating he is the most normal.*

Vance

I am so hooked to this series. The characters, the comedy, the plot the lore. All top notch. this chapter was awesome. Thank you!

Sean

On a side note it'll be really funny if Nat ever explains how he reached the 12 floor. "Well before everything, you need to convince the Absolute of the 2nd floor that you're in a tutorial, she will then destroy the second floor and leave an imprint on you. Take that imprint to the Ruler of Kindness's corpse on the 3rd floor and leave it to heal on its own. After that, she will do everything, you need to just wait. A couple tournaments later and a whole lot of beyond shenanigans you will be yanked to the 12th floor."

Jimbo

Nyssa vs The Boys? Did not see that coming

Kenny

I am also curious why there used to be 100 but are now only 14. Did they always used to represent blights and radiances?

Ivan Jelenić

And he made poor Brich change his name, maybe Savant too. What an oppressive savage.

Ivan Jelenić

Oh wait. Did Brich offer to be Diligence's avatar? Hence, the name change.

Ivan Jelenić

So Black Mana and Empyrean traits are basically compatible. I guess we already saw that with the spear, iirc.

Ivan Jelenić

Before this I thought that she actually is that god. Only the bear and last elf are older maybe and know. But the bear is not very coherent and is always sleeping, and the high level last elf is not around to say anything. Maybe the system is hunting him to erase that knowledge as well. And the bear lives because he was in on it.

Ivan Jelenić

Nat will have to spend time for his body to catch up to his mind.

Ivan Jelenić

Does that mean that Champions and Absolutes, and candidates are more bound than those that are not? Nat isn't going to like that.

Hms

Great POV. Though people at work keep wondering why I keep smirking and laughing for no reason the last couple of weeks. A battle with Nyssa will be very interesting after Nat finishes his accelerated master/disciple training arc and MorMor is finished with his upgrades.

Ivan Jelenić

Yeah, I thought so too. I guess they are hiding out of the System's reach, on the edges of the universe.

NatXLily

would be epic but not actually story

NatXLily

thats not a knife.... this is a knife

NatXLily

Black/empyrean mana heart is next trait... paired with empytean ichor and soon to be empyrean body.... he has become an empyrean and can now kill kindness yay well once he reaches lvl 99 in a skill lol so 10 more books minimum maybe 15

Josh Betts

Everything.... his people,his power, his domain, he even lost his name.

Manthar

Smh what a buggy game these exploits are ridiculous.

SqrlyGrly

Brich asked to be turned into an ant and be dilis test subject

Primo

He even fake cried to move diligence 😂😭

Hms

Interesting part is that the system is the key to Humans outpacing the other races so there is going to be a vested interest in keeping it around. Creates a double edged sword where they are basically controlled to a large degree by the system but also really would not be able to flourish without them and would turn to fodder for the other races. Guess that means the system is like a symbiotic parasite at this point.

Jordan Jones

I believe I’ve related this once before, perhaps around the Kindness interaction where Nat’s redaction of the true name of “black mana” was mentioned, but at this point the gag has run its course in my opinion. I genuinely don’t care what its actual designation is, but the phrasing in this chapter is actually off-putting. The sentences lack the weight they could have had if the name had been revealed. When I read the phrase “black mana” so many times in this chapter it really brought it home. I hate to advance this opinion as these chapters have been some of the best in the series regarding impact, humor, shock value, plot development, and several other factors, but the “black mana” thing is getting…lame. The joke has run its course. I don’t even have any recommendations at this point, as revealing it now, especially if Lissandra revealing this important foundational knowledge was not enough of an occasion for her or Nathaniel to strip this silliness from his mind, won’t have much of an impact. No hate, love the direction of the narrative, this just a genuine observation that I haven’t seen others express in the comments so far so if Cerim sees this in the off chance he can know at least one reader’s opinion on this. The name cannot possibly live up to the hype at this point, but not settling the matter is not a satisfying answer to that dilemma. Especially in a “revelation” chapter like this one.

Gutz

Nat going through another training Arc: Nyssa might get some surprises.

Majulla

He will have to develop a way to be above or outside the system. He will be come his own system, or control the current one

Arme nd

I dont think the crying was fake...

Arme nd

Nat's finetuning arc finally gonna start, he always said he was a mana brute, but now the only thing he can do is learn.. some might say control.

Connor

I really thought Lissandra would notice that he'd redacted what she said and forcefully make him aware of the name of black mana as punishment for his insolence

Zard

The mana god lost. Aka nat will aspire to be better than the mana god.

DeadbearKill

Nyssa vs Mormor, Savi, Weslin, and Birchant more like. Nat is gonna wake up from his long dream a real monster.

ForgottenDreams

"I got this feeling, yeah, you know where I'm losing all control, cause there's magic in my bones" 🎵🎶🩻💯

Borbino the great

I wonder how much time she has left before her tutorial ends now it can’t be long

Borbino the great

I didn’t even think about that but it kinda seems like the case and with the nameless tree too how he’s just going to turn everything into more mana to control

Nemesis

Hmm, does you think Pride's experiments creating demon and other races were attempts to recreate this divine mana heart? Or even make something superior

Nemesis

You're forgetting a key point; dont get killed by her at any one of these steps

CreamPuff aka

I’m sorry but Morwag is so finished. Last time Nathaniel trained with Liss for two weeks and got so much stronger. This time it’s do a year and idc about him not gaining the stats his mana manipulation is going to 85 minimum when he gets out ☠️😭

XP_TOPshelf

This has always been something I wanted to happen. I've always wanted Nat to start working towards the control we see from Lissandra.

XP_TOPshelf

I agree. LOVE the story, but black mana replacement has run it's course. I don't care if he continues to call it black mana, but replacing the name is silly at this point.

Nemesis

I just realised, Lissandra told the story out loud. Did the boys also hear it? If so, I wonder what Savant now thinks about his 'fair system'

Nemesis

Is healing similar to black mana? Do you need to have some intangible fragment of healing to be able to heal actively?

Lance Beam

TFTC. The lore dump was intriguing, Nat's potential boggles my mind.

Al

I don’t think my feelings are quite as extreme as yours. But I do think it’s a loss to the readers to never be given the name, especially where the name is of that god. Nat already feels like he’s peaking behind the curtain, and he’s already been offered this information. Refusing it to us does feel a little hollow. That said… Nat is very petty and it’s somewhat in character. Fwiw a good compromise would be for another POV to reveal it for the audience (we know redacthaniel knows it, so he technically does). Like show us Savant overhearing this conversation and have it revealed. But Cerim if you read this I also love the series. Your 2 week hiatus will be painful for us, but only bc your work is so wonderful, and I hope you get a good break.

Al

What made you think of this question?

Nemesis

As for the black mana you control? It is merely the remains of that god present within the system, a shadow you can touch if you reach deep enough. It is something I have tried as well, though I seem incapable of reaching. It seems to recognize me as a creation of the system.” A small smile appears on her lips, as if she finds the fact amusing. “But that is all it is. Black mana is what remains of that pitiful god.

PKYflashy

Poor diligence lmao. Karma a bitch I liked Hadwin

le moi

I was thinking he would "weave" his black mana with his empyrean blood and evolve the trait to god-blooded or something

shawn B

I’m so over Nat being fine with killing himself cause “that’s fine with me”. Is Cerim just fine with him acting like he doesn’t care about a single person worth doing his best to live for? Ffs. So god damn frustrating of a character. Every time I feel like he’s improving himself all around, he just does 0 to make it seems like he cares to live

wolf Bound

Ruler of diligence has gone too far truly 😪 when will the injustice end.