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Here's a spoiler-free set of screen captures of the rough SketchUp model I threw together for the exterior of Owens apartment. I'll be drawing this thing up for a full page. It'll help me have time to explore the script/s (bellow), and will serve as a time-setup-cleanser between pages of faces! Hope you dig it - Our boy Owen lives in the top left apartment (that lucky devil). It'll be all rocky in the Sarah Square area (I'll also attach the inspirations I'm leaning into)!

If you're interested; it took me like 4-5 hours and is almost entirely built with free models or bits of free models - like for example - most of the greenery is from some dude's succulents models, but scaled up; it all looks the part.

I'll use it as a base, and will pencil over it and zoop it up as I go!

Ok, Spoilers ahead, and probably in the comments section too! As I'm gonna talk about Scripts.

A few days ago I sat down and tippy tapped out two sort-of-new scripts for the current chapter (you can read the spoiler-heavy 80% script here!) The reasons being that I've been long worried about the length of the chapters script, the walls of monologue text, and was worried that having an unconscious Judy next to an awake Nick n Owen who are talking about the things they would all do together - would be breaching some sort of consent and advocacy issue. Especially if you think about how much IRL time it would take for the chapter to get to a point where it would bring that unconscious character back into the loop!

With all that in mind, my two new versions looked like this:

- Judy is awake for the whole intense escalation conversation & participates. 

- Judy's KO'd till the end, and Nick and Owen talk to each other one on one, Cuck-to-Bull (original idea, but trimmed down now and with a lot more space for 'we'll double-check with Jude about this when she wakes')

I'd thought by reworking things to have Judy awake, it would give everyone in the room space to play, and it would amplify the intensity. But what's crazy, on revisiting it with fresh eyes today, I realized having Judy awake and engaging with the conversation has actually done the opposite. Nicks lost voice and room to breathe his feelings without added pressure. With Judy excited for what's being talked about, it created a sort of unintentional 2 vs 1 situation. Pulling Nick's advocacy away from him during his key moment, and that's what this chapter is about really; Nick being honest and vulnerable. Somehow instead of gaining intensity, I've lost it!

I'll be tweaking this trimmed down original version a bit more before I share it; I still need to find a way to inject some of Nick's movie voice, but it's feeling tighter than ever now, and I'm really glad to have sat down and tried the other route; like seriously it was bugging me so much - I'm glad to have explored that route, even if it didn't work out... And before you ask, I'm tentative to share it? It's real rough around the edges =/

Very excited to share the trimmed down & tightened up original though (hopefully soon), and feeling so much more confident about it =D

Alright - gonna crack into this environment page. It's gonna be a fun pallet cleanser for me tbh, and maybe an easy one before I dive into the nitty-gritty pages.

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Patreon sometimes shrinks images, so check the attachments for the higher-res images!

Links!Chapter 6 - Ties That Bind WIP:

Page 6 

Page 5

Page 4  &   3 & 4 Single panels

Page 3

Page 2   &   Single panels

Page 1   &  Single panels

p1-3 Layouts & Pages 4-6 Layouts

90% Script for this chapter! (spoilers!)

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Extras!

Owen Reed's Written Backstory

Beastars Threesome picture for funzies (collab with AmazingGwen)

Judy's Treat for Higher Tiers (prob happens shortly after QnA1)

Inbetween-things Hourly Comic (prob happens sometime between chapters-4-6)

Telegram Stickers

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Story So Far

Chapter 1 - Bun In The Oven

Chapter 2 - No Bun's In This Oven

Chapter 3 - No Nicks In This Bun

Chapter 4 - I'll Have a Double

QnA 1

Chapter 5 - Knot On Top

QnA 2

Chapter 6 - Ties That Bind - Current WIP!

Files

Comments

Tigerchris

Hot damn that place looks cool

Bucked!

I am curious now because your city backgrounds are so incredible. What are your inspirations? References? I really should consider light modeling as well. Lol I was literally musing today "is it bad I want to go back to making maps and playing fields for half life 1 out of nostalgia?" Then I see you make these incredible settings with models as the basis for your comic scenes :)

Goataroo (Gre7g and Ky Luterman)

What do you think about some intermediate ground? N&O discuss while J is zoned, and they occasionally check in with her along the lines of: "What do you think, hon? That sound fun to you?" And J nods as she snuggles, maybe mutters a mmhmm, but doesn't generally participate in the conversation. Best of both worlds.

Jeeves

Regarding the script issues, is there potential for Judy to be awake but remain quiet, listening as the boys talk together, smiling as they talk about checking in on all this with her, but giving Nick time to say all this without the pressure of her added participation? (Of course, feel free to ignore this entirely if you considered that and it just doesn't seem workable) :D

Amadose

I provided the references I leaned into in the images! I guess I was thinking zoop-spanish-brazil-desert-oasis. And then just had fun with it =D

Diego P

I love the amount of love and care you are giving to this story, it's fascinating to know you work through different scenarios to see how they work out.

Amadose

It feels off to have her awake but not really engaging. But I'll think about it a bit.

Amadose

Maybe? But it feels a bit off to have her only chirping up like this at key moments rather than being a part of it all! I'll brew on it =)

Glyn Wolf

Wow, is Owen as wealthy as this snazzy home makes him look? Is that yet another way that Nick gets to feel out-done by this guy? ;)

Amadose

He's doing alright for himself, but is still sharing his apartment =)

Bucked!

I'm really thinking about this bg stuff as my upcoming non cuck comic (mostly m/m stuff. Fair levels of bdsm ) is in this classical era fantasy setting. The story starts in an area like the Balkans (interesting fact that's a Turkish word describing a series of wooded mountain faces. ) and winding up in a place I've described as Egyptian Venice. Instead of on the Mediterranean its in the river delta. I'm really excited about it but tbh I have to surpass my current limits and outdo myself to do it justice :)

Amadose

Whoa! Those are some vivid settings! I don't know if I have much in the way of advice; other than I find reducing the scenes to one place at a time super helpful and using 3D as a base for the backgrounds. You might connect well with some of the premade stuff out there built JUST for comics. I recently got sent this link: https://www.acon3d.com/en You could use some of those in Sketchup and hey preso - you've got some quick n easy backgrounds (I'd still encourage you to just use them as a guide and redraw them, else it looks TOO much like 3D.) But it's a great place to start. How ever I just use all the free stuff from here; https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/?hl=en

Amadose

Very excited for you =D

Jackie Blue

I would live to use that in a ttrpg if I may ^^

Amadose

Haha! That's kind of you to ask, I'm touched! Thinkign about it; I don't really want to set a rule that my Patreon shared work should be used or posted elsewhere! I'd much prefer it just stay on here =) Heck I even forgot to put my url on the images 0_0

Amadose

I spend WAY too much time fretting and thinking about this stuff. It's insane (or, at least, I'm insane). But when each page is done? I feel such pride =D

jim

I know I've said it before but so far in your story every time there has been hesitation it's been from Nick and Judy convinces him. I would personally like to see her struggle with it. She always says Nick comes first but we never see her focused on anything more than her pleasure. This includes her staying on her birth control and basically cheating on Nick. What if Judy was awake and she was hesitant to give up being tied to Nick. As Owen said it is very intimate. So Nick is the one to reassure her that he wants to have that taken, and reminds her how she will still have Owen. Or maybe Owen compromises and offers them one last tie? A way for Judy to adjust to it. As always do what feels right to you, and what is right for the characters.

Rickochet

Impressed to see what you’ve made of Owens apartment building. It’s quite nice, didn’t expect you were playing with some models. Personally I think your idea of Judy involved in the conversation overshadowing Nick is pretty apt and spot on. She has been pushing the momentum forward much more than Nick from the beginning and so taking her out of the driver seat is a natural progression. Of course Judy will be informed and she can add her thoughts after, but for the chapter at hand having it on Owen and, especially, Nick is a more interesting direction and allows for a new perspective and dynamic to work with. You’ll know what feels right the more you work with it, like you already have.

KinotheFox

I was about to say, dayum how rich is Owen?! XD

Amadose

That's all super solid, but a whoooole lot of feature creep. I'd planned to give Judy some space in the QnA or a short chapter after this one. I think it'll be pretty clear that Nicks happy in this one. Thanks as ever Jim, notes taken =D

Amadose

Feel like you've been saying that from the start and I just had to get there myself ;D Thanks, Rickochet - it feels like the right direction, and feeling more and more solid =) I think it might finally be dialed in =D

Amadose

Ha! I mocked up the whole mountainside; Owen just has the top left apartment, =D

Jeeves

The joys of trying to figure out open and clear, meaningful communication within polyamorous relationships. It's almost like that's a really difficult and complex thing or something. :D Yet you always do a fantastic job at it, and I'm sure that however this chapter turns out, you'll knock it out of the park!

jim

Sorry about the overstep. Probably a good reminder that I shouldn't comment on things when I'm drinking. I tend to go off on tangents. It was good bourbon though.

Fen Redwolf

Oh heck, missed your last post! I agree with your conclusion in this one. Judy has been the one pushing this forward the whole time, and the initial idea of the chapter was to give Nick some space. I really think it’s important to put him in the spotlight here. To see that he really wants all of this, not just because Judy convinces him. To spice things up and get away from faces, maybe you could inject one or two of his fantasy’s as a panel while they talk about them? I also hope Owens line ‘I love you bud.’ Makes the final cut. Makes me feel all fuzzy... ;D

Amadose

I think I'll just keep her out of it so I don't have to rewrite a million times, and then give her her own space in the QnA or a short chapter afterward =) You are nottttt wrong about poly relationships!

Amadose

No no, I liked it! But I think it's totes fair to say 'not gonna do all that' too ;D

Amadose

Mannnnn, I dunno. I did crop that line =/ It was getting different reactions from different people, and the way I was using it felt like Owen was placating Nick, rather than being earnest! I slid in a line earlier, that punches the same note but a little less 'LOVE' "O petting Judy who purrs - Aw, shit - you two are amazing. I mean, your not wrong, I’ve been holding back. I care about you guys a whole lot, and that kind of play takes so much… trust, you know? I didn’t want to damage what we already had going. I don’t ever want to hurt you two."

Amadose

I'll maybe add it back in and brew on it =)

Fen Redwolf

Aww man I love that! I love that a lot! Alright maybe the “love you” can come later on.

Mikey

I love the way you think!!!!

jim

Of course it's fair. It's your story. I wasn't being sarcastic. I know I get carried away, especially when I'm drinking. It was a sincere apology.

Amadose

Well, again, no harm taken. But I appreciate the apology anyway <3 You are awesome.