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The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch and recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang and Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Twisted. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.

Twisted:
A spatial distortion phenomenon occurring inside the ship changes Voyager's structural layout by twisting and compressing it.

We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise, and Rebecca McNeill, and our Post Producer Jessey Miller.

Additionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co- Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve Mercer, Sarah A Gubbins, Ann Marie Segal, Jason M Okun, Marie Burgoyne, Jason Self, Daniel Adam, Chris Knapp, Michelle Zamanian, Matthew Gravens, Brian Barrow, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Megan Hurwitt, James Zugg, Mike Gu, and Shannyn Bourke.

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Dee McGee

What JanewayACTUALLY said was "It's - talking - to - me. Do - nothing."

Mark Scheuern

A mediocre at best episode, IMO. The premise was silly--the ship is all twisted but the only result is corridors are re-routed and decks are re-arranged--and all of that data put into the computer is never mentioned again. Neelix's cake looked good, though.

Robin

So I love you guys and I love Voyager. I’m watching this podcast from the very beginning and going forward. I think the same thing after almost every episode you guys review- Do you two even like this series??

Doni Marie Sanchez
>>158785664

I was thinking the same thing. It’s really bumming me that they say so much negative stuff about the eps. I hope it changes cause that’s not what I expected when I signed up

Doni Marie Sanchez

One of my favorite episodes too. Too bad you didn’t appreciate it

Borgscan

Good work in finding a work around. <3

Ellie S

Success!

Jason Wang

To start off. I'm glad y'all figured out Youtube had an unlisted feature. XD

Kathleen Baxter

It’s appropriate that the episode would deal with problems with the ship’s communications system

TheDeltaFlyers
>>44425260

We know it has an unlisted feature. Our first videos were still shared widely and we had to move to a more secure service. We will see if people are kinder this time around.

Cristian Popa

The issue that you touched on towards the end sums it up pretty well, I think. "We were supposed to do nothing all along" can work fine as a release, but only if you're able to build up a lot of tension along the way, which this episode only really does in the last few minutes with the "impending doom" dialogue. On the plus side, we got "PhenOOOmmmennNNOONNnn" and "doggie doo-doo". :))

Stephanie Baker

I do like this episode, although its not my favorite. I find the whole thing funny, walking around the corridor(s). and its nice having the whole crew together so much in Sandrine's (including the Doctor) instead of the bridge. My favorite scene is when Tom and Belanna materialize on the pool table. This is the ultimate bottle show.

AJ Provance

Harry saves Captain's life, is one of the bright spots of their journey. Still doesn't get promoted

Mark Verlaat

Are any other of you experiencing a glitch at 19:00? The screen went black for a couple of seconds. Storywise it may not have been the greatest one, but I liked the little interactions between the characters. Harry and Tom, Harry and Janeway, Tuvok and Chakotay. I think this is the foundation of the relationships lateron.

Matt

A painter who moonlights as a bartender who moonlights as a doctor.

Matt

For those of us who are Voyager novel readers, this events in this episode are the focal point for one of the novels..and..Harry is the one who realizes it. :D

Matt

I really enjoyed this episode, although I did roll my eyes the second Tom gave Kes the birthday present because I knew the jealousy bit was going to continue on..that's literally about the only thing in all of Voyager that drives me nuts. I understand every character has growth, and this is still early in the series over all. I love Neelix, but the jealousy stuff just got old.

Matt

Neelix moonlighting as The Penguin, in Batman!

GAY Kleven-Lundstrom

I guess I am one of the few people who liked "Twisted" I do not think of this as a disaster movie. But a Mystery type of movie.

David

Very enjoyable episode

N+D

I always like 'Twisted'. A nice, low key episode, and good use of Sandrines (it's a pity it wasn't used more as the series developed). I also like having the ship (essentially) as the star of the episode. Voyager really had some outstanding set design.

Rich Gross

This is a GREAT episode. Of the podcast. This is a ridiculous episode of Voyager. I still enjoy watching it, because I love the characters, but the story is just silly. Specifically, the idea that some force is causing the ship to be reconfigured is not even science fiction, because there's no way science can be stretched to imagine that happening. If they had made it more about their perceptions of the ship, OK, that's something that could have worked. But to imagine decks of the ship somehow "twisting" and perfectly lining up with another deck? Come on. But like I said, I still enjoy it, and this was a great episode of the podcast. Garrett and Robbie are really hitting on a great system for doing these!

Laura

Twisted is one of my favorite Voyager episodes. It's very watchable and has some funny moments (either intentionally or not). I sometimes watch this episode with my mom, and we will spend the rest of the day saying "phenomenomenomenom" or sing the muppets song with it. Yeah, we're weird :). The scene where Baxter is telling Harry about his gym workout is also hilarious, and it's a line I like to tell people even though most people have no idea where it's from ("I was working out so hard" or something like that). I guess I just find it a fun episode. It sounds like it was kind of awful for everyone to make, but the effort is greatly appreciated.

sab ewell

B'Elanna and Harry do the Starfleet and Maquis call back through the whole seven years so yall will be happy to know that 😂. Relaunch novels actually have Harry Kim pick up this dropped plot point and it is an important part to the books. I love this ep for the silliness of it. Not taking it serious is how you enjoy it. Like DS9's Far Along Home... lol Ok the next two eps are my least faves cause of the cringe of it all with Kes and Tom then in Persistence of Vision that scene I wont mention but we know the one 😂😂😂 Once we are past the cringeyness of those two eps the rest of season 2 is amazing. EVEN THRESHOLD. ;)

James

I like this episode! Can understand why you guys don't!!

Rich Gross

The only purpose I can see for the jealousy theme is to add a bit of depth to the Neelix character and the relationships between Neelix, Kes, and Paris. In my mind, though, it really serves no purpose. Maybe the writers had something in mind, that this would all culminate into some big interesting arc, but in reality it all just builds uncomfortable and then fizzles out immediately in the one conversation where Paris just tells Neelix he's attracted to Kes but respects Neelix too much to ever do anything about it.

Breana Harris

I’m glad I’m not the only one who secretly really likes Twisted! It’s like a guilty pleasure episode. I know the plot could be a lot better and it’s not really about anything but I don’t care, it’s fun and the character interaction is what makes it! I think everyone paired off with their ship BFF at the end is really sweet.

Irene Artho

Definitely a very strange episode. Especially the scene when Captain Janway's arm gets twisted got stuck in my head since the very first time I saw it. Also, Kim says that the phenomenon is surrounding them like a ring. Why can't they go under or above it? It's not a bubble, so they can jump over the line! :D I'm a big Sherlock fan so found that bit about the pilot very interesting. I have the DVD and it is indeed on there with some other specials - must watch at some point! I found this YouTube Video showing just 1 scene with the pilot vs the aired episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPwoNNCgvYM&ab_channel=dradra13

Mary Jac Greer

I have to say, I enjoyed the episode but agree with Robbie that it could’ve had a lot more reactions or actions to make it more engaging. Love the “doggie doo” line! What is that!! I love Robbie’s comment about his face acting because I had noticed through the years how much he did react into the camera with his face. That to me is just Tom Paris. Thanks for another fun Delta Flyer episode.

Roe O'Brien

LOL Haven't watched this yet, but based on Garrett's expression on the screencap ALONE, I know this is gonna be a goodie.

Travis Elder

Nice language lesson that coincidentally ties in with a line from Chekov in Star Trek III when looking at Scotty and then pointing to the surprising energy reading coming from Spock's quarters: Я не сумасшедший. Но Вот! (I'm not crazy. There it is!)

Utopia Science Fiction

I loved Twisted as an episode so much. It's definitely not a disaster movie kind of thing, but it is a really good science fiction idea. This alien technology that's so completely different from anything else anyone could comprehend or understand. It really captured a kind of wonder with me when I watched it (Which is all I ask of any science fiction show is that it leaves me with that sense of wonder). There were lots of things you could find fault with, sure, but just the idea of it was compelling (even if not rendered as well as it could have been), plus I really love all the little light moments. Baxter, Neelix, The Doctor, B'elanna. It doesn't work well as a serious episode, but as a light, kinda cheesy episode it is super fun to watch.

Janet Potts
>>44458876

To me, it feels like they were trying to include an element of sexual tension but they weren't very good figuring out how to make that work. What comes to mind is a show like Castle, where they spent several seasons with our protagonists dancing around each other, flirting, but denying their attraction for one another. They teased us for *years* with that before finally letting them get together. In Voyager it just makes Neelix look domineering and Paris look like a womanizer. And then to have these 2 negative masculine tropes vying for the affection of the innocent, naive woman who smiles sweetly at them, it makes me want to vomit. Is it any wonder that we now have the #MeToo movement when we had that as our example of male-female interpersonal relationships?

Astra Morris

I love the episode “ Twisted”! Most of it doesn’t make sense, but it’s a fun episode. I am glad I am not the only one who likes it. I was looking forward to hearing Robbie and Garrett’s thoughts on it, and I am surprised the whole crew thought it was that bad! When I think of bad episodes, or even “meh” episodes, this one doesn’t come to mind.

Jennifer7895

I enjoyed "Twisted" because it was just so ridiculous. Its so bad you can't but laugh. *insert Muppet's song here*

Grafty

I loved the story about the shirtless scene!

Grafty

I don’t hate the episode, but it’s definitely one of *too many* spacial anomaly stories. Voyager was kinda obsessed with those for a while. It leads to what Robbie described here about disaster movies - lack of stakes. What the heck is a spacial anomaly, and why should the viewer care? Hard to get across.

Bree Boehlke

I have been trying to re-watch the episodes before I pull up the podcast. This is not an episode I rewatch often and I actually enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. So interesting to hear your perspective and memories of it. I totally get why the cast might have struggled with the concept for sure, but as a viewer, I enjoyed it. Loved the stories about the shirtless crewman in his quarters and the cake memories. Too funny! Very much looking forward to each episode of the podcast. Thank you!

Aaron Crosby

It was a fun episode however I do have to agree the way it was written simply doesn't make sense. If the ship were being reconfigured like this power conduits etc would be severed and probably result in the ship blowing up. Now if they frame it like somehow they were passing through into different realities where the ships layout was different from reality to reality that would make much more sense and have the same overall affect! Anyway... whatever 🤷‍♂️ Also the data dl didn't make sense. I'm curious if the writer had a larger story in mind that this was supposed to setup the back story for.

Paul Johnston

Yes I've also always liked it. It kinda crosses like an 'X-Files' episode (another favorite of the time) in the sense that its left unexplained, and for once the solution was to do 'nothing' instead of a wrap-up within 45 mins. Yes they could have picked up on the data dump again to help them out further that was an oversight. But the character interaction was fun and what made it. And yes it was good that the follow up novels picked back up on it as a long lost story opportunity. But yes I also like Threshold as an interesting and daring episode so what do I know lol

Charity Ponton

It breaks my lil patreon heart that they dislike this episode so much since I like it so much

Cindy Converse

I love this episode. What makes Voyager my favorite series, and different from other Star Trek series, is that it's primarily character/relationship-driven, unlike the other series which tend to be more situationally-driven. This episode has a lot of character interaction and relationship development between multiple pairs or groups of the crew. I think that's what makes it such a good episode. As for the esoteric or philosophical bent of it, maybe it's because I'm a mathematician, but I really enjoyed what Robbie calls the "classroom" feel of it where they're discussing the nature of patterns versus chaos. Just goes to show: different strokes for different folks. You guys may hate this episode, but I love it. :)

Holly Smith

Oh my god! I can’t believe how much the cast hated this episode because it’s tied as my favorite with Equinox! I love Twisted so much. It’s one of my go-to episodes when I have insomnia. I love the fact that the crew has no idea what’s going on and has no solution to the problem so they just have to wait it out and hope for the best - just like real life. I laughed a lot at the whole, “doggie doo doo,” part though!

Kelly Bee (CaptainKathryn)

I've always loved this episode! When Janeway is on the couch spouting nonsense words, I lose it every time lmao.

Bethany Avery
>>44427344

It only just occurred to me though that while it involved a valiant effort and, I’m sure would have created some of that drama Robbie was looking for if Harry had failed/didn’t save her- he literally “saved” the Captain from the fate that met them all anyway. If anything being pulled back caused more distress then everyone else who came in contact with the full wave.

Bethany Avery
>>44434200

Ooh okay- may have treated myself to the full set of used novels for 2020 and making my way through. Now I’ll be on the look out

Bethany Avery
>>44750131

I feel like it was suppose to be a “Contact” moment where the awe is in the “it was all just static that didn’t make sense but there is something about it that must be real/sentient” but I agree needed some play out of the importance of all that data. But, again this was in the time of the series where very little build was maintained from one episode to the next.

Bethany Avery
>>47053702

It’s hard not to loose it at that! Embarrassingly enough I clearly remember rewatching it carefully so I could reenact it as a kid. Who needed to play house when I could play Star Trek?!

Bethany Avery

Afternoon Non-Sequitor one thing is for sure that view out of Robbie’s apartment conformance he lives on the 4th floor, right next to Harry. ;)

K

I also love this episode! I don’t require hard science in my sci-fi, and I love me some team-y d&d type problem solving goodness, so this ep is right up my alley. I even like the interactions at the end, when everyone is prepping for potential death. I found a lot of that scene moving, in fact, particularly for how well (or how little) we know the characters at that point. Fascinating there’s such a disconnect between the fans and cast here!

Alina Wood

Robbie blurted out, "Doggie doodie!" the way he blurted out, "Pepperoni!" in Threshold. Had I been drinking something when he did that, I would've spit my drink out all over my lap and bed and probably choked from laughter.

Roy Spaan

I kinda liked the underlying idea of "here's something we CAN'T beat, we just accept our fate", but it wasn't as well executed as it could have been. I DID feel some buildup and danger in the phenomenon itself, but that was at the same time countered by the lack of urgency in the characters. Most of them had some jokey scene that made the whole thing lean more towards teens messing around in a hedgemaze. I did like those moments though. Especially Chakotay giving Janeway the reluctant okay for Neelix to join him. The plot should really have been written less ambiguously. I guess this might be what Robbie was trying to say. Establish the danger level early on. A it stands the crew is just half-assing it and at the very end go "whoops we fucked up, let's hope we don't die". The weird afterthough of "it was a form of communication" felt completely tacked on. Like a sci-fi writer wanting to be more original than just having a natural disaster again, but couldn't really fit it into the plot. Same thing applies: establish that early on. It then could have had a TNG "Masks" plot, where the crew KNEW it was a form of communication, but was fighting against the negative effects.

Aithne Loeblich

Its funny you guys didn't like this episode. Its not my favorite, but there are amazing little character moments in it. Tom and Belanna in Engineering was really good. Tuvok and Janeway relationship coming through. Janeway acknowledging that Harry has been an awesome addition to the team, I mean when I was in the military that kind of praise was unheard of. That level of recognition from a superior officer in such an intimate setting. But the ABSOLUTE best was Chakotay! You said he was 'facial mugging' or whatever that term is... but I felt like it really conveyed his character in a few looks. And I can think of multiple times where this is what made me like Chakotay. They gave him so little to do, so in his lines and scenes he did the mugging... and it really let Chakotays true nature shine. You could tell he did NOT like Tuvok in just a single scene! I think the eyebrow wiggle plays a large part to that. Also, Tom when he's being playful does that too, and I think it makes the bridge crew more human, and honestly they're usually my favorite scenes. I never knew they had a name before. But I like them, and as a viewer, I never felt it was over the top or sit comy. It was just a way to express yourselves when given such strict lines and costume, uniforms, etc. I felt it added and didn't detract from the scenes. Good episode guys!

Miki Tracey

In this episode, just after the baby is born, did anybody else notice that Tom's right ear is pointed? It's clearly not natural since once the baby is wrapped his ear is round again. I gotta know what that;s all about... I was trying to figure out if Robbie had some Tuatha de Danaan in the gene pool until i saw the later shot...

Miki Tracey

wow...wrong episode. i'll try this agin on the right episode ;)

Cass
>>44792406

Is this what Echoes or something plays off? I haven't read it.

Cass

I liked that everyone was involved in the story and that we got to see multiple different team ups. I said this before, but I don't like any of the romantic type connections with Kes. Even her statement at the end to Neelix about keeping an eye on him... not close to her heart or thoughts, but keeping her eye on him. It just gives me bad vibes. I liked how B'Elanna wanted to keep trying (never give up, never surrender!). I thought the hand holding was a bit much though... not sure if that was supposed to be friendly or show a crush, but sliding across the table leaned crush-like to me, which I never liked. I would have preferred her to just keep trying... I mean, why not at that point? Let everyone approach potential death on their own terms. Having the half-Klingon choose to 'go down fighting' seems appropriate. I did find it interesting that B'Elanna looked to Tom for backup; I think this episode had several nice 'friend' moments between them, which I hadn't remembered.

Mr Paris

Okay, first of all, I liked the concept of the episode. The problem was they could not show the actual compression and twisting, so that part was poor and made things difficult for the actors. Towards the end, I felt that the crew giving up was reality. When you see all is lost, you will follow anyone's guidance at that moment just for hope! Tuvok was the only one offering hope, so they followed him. At the end, they were left with a mystery of what it was that happened. And the trade of information was the only "answer" they had. Life is sometimes like that. It makes sense that in flying through the universe, there are going to be unexplained phenomena. That all said, there were some strange moments, and good moments, but for me all is forgiven because I appreciated that it was difficult for them to show such a difficult concept.

Dead_Alewives

I'm fairly certain that what Janeway was saying was "He's talking to me!" Or that's what it sounded like to me. Also, I really liked this episode just like that James guy. I'm just a sucker for Star Trek episodes where really weird stuff is going on.

gamenator_2011

Hi there, long time Voyager fan and of Kim and Paris :-) I actually loved this episode also, I'm a sucker for mysterious paranormal phenomena stories like this. I wanted argue Rob's points on how this is not a disaster movie. I'm not a writer, but here's what I came up with: Plot elements: 1. Impending natural disaster: the phenomena - They couldn't control it - Impending doom was that the ship will implode and crush them 2. Buildup or aftermath plot point - I'm not sure for the aftermath, but the build up I think would be the transformation of the ship and everything getting twisted up. - The ticking clock was the ship imploding on itself which would result in the eventual destruction of the ship and death of the crew - Concrete evidence of what the natural disaster was: I feel like the anomaly/being and it's effects on the ship was this 3. Individual or family displaying survival tactics I feel like in some ways yes: - The crew was their family and together they were trying to find their way through the ship - They were also trying to find a solution to solve the problem which Tores suggests the Shockwave Multiple plot lines: This I agree there weren't really any, but we were following groups of characters throughout the story while they were getting lost together throughout the ship and trying to problem solve. Probably yet another victim of the 42 minutes episode limit. Also I agree with Dead_Alewives. Janeway says' Eees Dalking to be' which I think translates to 'He's talking to me!' ro something along those lines. Maybe your bad experience filming is what influenced your perspective on the episode sadly. I loved the mystery feel of it. But I did also dislike that you never hear about what the Gigawats of files that were downloaded was all about. You'd think someone would have eventually studied that information and decipher it, or at least attempt to. I felt the episode still had a good mysterious vibe to it. It was still fun to me even though it could have maybe been executed a little better.

Samantha

I love the eps where the alien/phenomenon is a complete mystery. It pumps up the nature of an unexplored quadrant.

ST Fan CB

Interesting and very weird how RDM makes a major assumption of what the writers were trying to do with this episode "make a disaster movie" and then goes on to lay out an argument point by point as why his own assumption is incorrect. What?!? I see this episode as more of a mystery along the lines of an Agatha Christie story. It definitely reminded me of the hilarious movie "Murder by Death" where all the characters team up to go around and search to try and solve a mystery. The interactions of the various teams of characters is what tells the story before regrouping in various combinations to recount what happened and get information from other groups. Same here. If you have not see this movie, watch it now. Maybe the download of info into the ships computer was supposed to be a plot thread for a future story arc that never happened. I wonder if this episode was an inspiration for the 2nd season of ST: Discovery when that ship gets a massive download of info from a dying life form. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Mickidona

I find it so interesting when an episode I really enjoy, such as this one, has a terrible rep amongst the cast and maybe to some extent the crew. As a stage actor I usually find the parts audiences love end up being parts that are so repeated and so old to the cast we cant even remember why they're funny or well done, so it's great to see a TV perspective - as you guys arent rehearsing for three months before shooting of course LOL ! Great ep again guys and really insightful notes on both parts

The Real Andrew Kim

I always enjoyed this episode cuz it was so weird, also a little herb lore helps XD

Christina

This is actually one of my favorite episodes of Voyager. It's so strange, and I love the idea of THE Voyager being twisted out of alignment. Tuvok struggling to make sense of the logical course to take when trying to decide which hallway to go down is funny to me. Also, pretty much everyone had the same amount of screen time, which I really liked.

Nicole

Ok I just started listening so the comment is a little late but I really can't believe that these guys missed the mark so badly on the discussion of the episode. A lot of Robert's review is based on that fact the he completely miss identified the genre of this episode as disaster story. I think this may have been a case of the answer being so obvious that he missed. The Genre is science fiction. I know that star trek spends a lot of time adding sci-fi elements to other genres so maybe he just forgot that sometimes star trek tells stories that are just straight up plain old science fiction. The fact that he couldn't identify the common story elements and tropes of disaster stories should have told him that he had landed on the wrong genre. The main plot of sci-fi tends to be something along the line of : 1. something inexplicable happens that creates a conflict. 2. the characters must use all their knowledge of science to try and find a solution. 3. Someone uses creative outside of the box thinking to solve the problem. 4. Even though the conflict is resolved the inexplicable thing is still inexplicable because our understanding of science is not great enough to answer all the questions we have. This is quintessential sci-fi and I'm sure that is why there are so many people in these comments that said they liked this episode.