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We’re joined by The Nation’s Aída Chávez for her report from WelcomeFest, the abundapalooza dedicated to staking the technocratic claim for the future of the Democratic party. We review the fairly directionless and unenthusiastic vibes of the centrist shindig, but also discuss the explosion of police violence during protests against ICE in Los Angeles over the weekend. All leading us to ask, what exactly do these people think “power” is, and when is it “right” to exercise it?

Read Aída’s dispatch from WelcomeFest for The Nation: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/welcomefest-dispatch-centrism-abundance/

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JDF

Girst and I’m fay

JD Nonce

I tried to go to WelcomeFest but the Chad wonk on the door said my lanyard was too short, called me a pussy and added my wife to his polycule 😩

JDF

TA and the House both coming up with bangers on Welxxxcum Fest lfg

mark kuchonowski

just got finished listening to matt and felix talk about the sopranos again, heh, shit's classic. and also matt and felix and will and matt and felix and matt and will and will but matt and felix and felix.

NYCM&AHole

God I hate the dummyrats

Michael S. Judge

Marie Gluesenkamp Perez looks and sounds like she's trapped inside INLAND EMPIRE

dfumps

I'm glad Matt's old tin can isn't going to waste

Michael S. Judge

she can only take her trash out every 3 months because she spends the rest of her time talking backwards into Bill Pullman's security cameras

christoph.s

I like the episode overall. But please Boys! You really need a rolling pin intervention! Let a lady talk!

Declan Kennedy

Fetterman track had me in tears, the line near the end about "you like 6'8" / white men can't jump to this day" killed me

interzoa

Democrats are so bleak and depressing. Just a black hole with a tepid smile, so comfortable in their nothingness as reality screams muffled in the background

Matt Colston

Washington dems wants Glutenkampf gone. Trust me we all hate her.

Matt Colston

Also Glutenkampf is playing off those rural WA voters but shes so annoying.

Matt Colston

Coming from a rural WA listener.

Reed

Abundantly stupid if you ask me am I right!

christoph.s

What a weird thing to write. I think her voice is fine.

Dee Rubes

Please commission a song about the Liberal Driller.

Ben Dayho

Farm to table barbershop

Quadabyte

"We need to get conservatives on our side, so we need to act 'normal' and not make qanon theories about us. Now, where are my edible body parts?"

Bill Vog

Great now I'll have a song about fetterman in my head all day. Thanks

Blue Myself

Interviewer: “Ezra, I think we’re all wondering, what is ‘Abundance’ and what does it mean for me?” Ezra Klein: “You get too much Mudde you’re gonna need a Fawcett!”

Max

That is why Brace is the goat.

ERIC

This sounds like spooks all the way down

Jack Ross

We have such abundance to show you

Sam

I don’t think Felix is supposed to have a high quality mic, it feels wrong. He should sound like he’s speaking from under a pile of blankets

The Brank

The high point for MAGA was during the Great Depression and world wars? 😭😭

Doug Cartel

I saw at least one completely insane take that the Democrats were behind the riots and that this was just USAID style soft power inside American borders Like motherfucker do you know how long the LAPD has been at war with the city? You think Chuck Schumer is under NORAD waiting for the right moment to fire Woke Missiles?

Robert Armstrong

Gonna need that RXK track available for download.

Jabroni Ludd

The marines activated are 2/7 (2nd Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st MarDiv) and are from 29 palms also known as the stumps. most line companies have a non-lethal platoon (consistently trains on crowd control, its leaders go to pertinent courses). But thats like 36 dudes. If 700 are going its the whole Battalion and its adjacent/supporting units. Maybe some MPs like will said but probs some motor t and ammo techs and engineers and arty, huge mix of combat arms and non-combat MOSs.

Chas Padunski

The irony of all this is that “normal people” hate zoning abolition, luxury apartment construction, and hand outs to developers. I’m a town official in NJ. 90% of the complaints people make around here are about overdevelopment, traffic, and rents. Curiously, nobody ever brings up hating trans people or supporting our partners in the Middle East.

Jack Ross

Thinking back to when Ezra used the phrase “unproductive left-punching” when referencing himself and the abundance dorks

Jabroni Ludd

Also you can use marines.mil to look up who the senior enlisted and commanding officers for 2/7 are and you could probably find them on social media

etienne

it's like pitting Slate Star Codex as a moderate against the Moldbug extremists

mariol struga

so dems and republicans have the exact same policies and opinions on immigrants got it…

🎃 Val_cente Precio 🎃

Why do all the foreigners need to go again? I thought it was wages... Now it's crime? Deport all the jaywalkers!

Alex Weber

Nobody’s passionate about zoning laws? Okay buddy… speak for yourself. Shit’s HOT! Zoning, zones, zoners, the whole thing. That’s my bag

Aaron Panos

We need that track on youtube immediately!!!

Michael Rosen

Man, they weren't kidding about MGP, she has a weird-ass voice kind of like Hailey Stevens here in MI

Doug Cartel

This Mud 'theory' of power sounds like a lot of other lib-centrist 'theories' - they can't avoid or admit that Marx was very accurate in his assessments, so they try to find some niche verbiage to make it sound different and avoid class analysis. 'pure people' and 'corrupt elites' allow them to sidestep Marxist ideas in a way that makes them comfortable, because the alternative is just right wing narratives about how people who look weird are destroying everything - and terminology like 'pure' and 'corrupt' can easily be interpreted for right wing narratives but libs can pretend it's not. It's this very weird tightrope act for an audience of like 5 people.

Zach H.

The Abundist Party “Being a Collaborator just means you’re reaching across the aisle!”

Ernest Ambrus

What do you mean? Felix is on almost every episode.

Matthew

Lib gummies whose sole effect is making you do the Macarena 💀

Luna Zeidner

They let her talk for a whopping 5 minutes

YungCereza

The only reason the convention was in a shitty hotel is because every donor was throwing a coin in the collection plate and then pulling it back on a little string tied to their finger like Scrooge McDuck

Dyyyyylan

Absolutely lost it at ‘body part gummies’

Jake Estes

I DONT GOT A BALD HEAD JOHN FETTERMAN

Bryan Williams

Welcomefest the prequel to Ishiguro's "Never Let Me Go."

floppy md

Who is the girl that deeply hurt Felix who also takes a glass of water to bed. She has caught countless strays over the past couple years

Reed

Enough with the antisemitism

Lauren Heinze

I had that cas mudde guy as a professor he was such a rude dickhead personally loll. Inspired my long-term hatred of the Dutch

oblong pans

The libs are not "the left"

Matelda

The Welcomfest freaks don't care about "data" at all, as you consistently point out, no amount of data will convince them to be on the right side of any issue. They pretend to be "smart" just like child-raping Republicans pretend to be "moral," because they are the exact same fucking people. It's Republicans all the way down. They're just fucking Republicans.

ploob

Needs more phlegm

Matelda

I don't believe they even care about zoning. What real person, even what *evil* person, wants to trade genocide for zoning? Evil people just support the genocide. These people would have us believe they are the fucking undead, gnawing on building permits instead of brains. More likely zoning is just a filler topic that no one else knows anything about, so the Ab-undead can use it to sound smart & wonkish to stupid rube liberals. They're Republicans but instead of playing "church" they play "science"!

jfk truther

Dems gotta go. Unreformable

Dougglystick

Amazing Fetterman Song. Just pure gold

Travis

Felix begins speaking at 3 minutes and 15 seconds

Evan Pitkin

I'm going insane. I hate these abundance fuckers so much.

Max

Pass the ban single guys amendment!!!

ploob

Fetter Mang Lives!!

Cole Crystal

Alright, bud. I don’t see the real left making any accomplishments either

Anomalie

My skin was crawling when they were reading quotes from the body parts gummy lady. Democrats are lower than robots, at least AI has humanitarian guardrails in place, these freaks are heartless souless mechanical black holes.

Simon Maraya

I mean, the countryside does surround the city...

Tea for the Tillerman

Welcomefest brought to you by the people putting gray vinyl floors and brushed gold fixtures in every apartment

Jed Levin

The Democratic party never has any sense of direction as such until there’s a front runner in the Primary. This is always a rudderless time, as I remember. I guess Hillary was a regrettable exception. Peaceful protest…

Sam Lieberman

I spent two years as a full time zoning researcher and I can confidently say that actual planning research is entirely disconnected from “the abundance movement”. I don’t think any of the welcome fest guys would be able to summarize a single paper in the field from the last 5 years

Sardonic

It's entirely believable they just cynically picked zoning as a core issue because it's like the one, singular, area of policy where some people authentically actually want deregulation and they want to twist that into meaning that people are on board with the entire stupid neoliberal project. By contrast, nobody would give them the time of day if they ran on privatizing the post office like matty wants.

Jason Costa

Can't believe the Fetterman song slapped THAT hard

Giancarlo Buonamici

I find this urbanist Jane Jacobs critique from Klein so strange since he keeps referencing China's ability to build shit, without any reflection on why the CCP is able to do ghost cities

Dyyyyylan

The grey vinyl makes me want to kms

etienne

Aella. Famous for organizing an orgy on herself and making graphs of who nutted inside her or in a fluffer

Joe

46 minutes in, shout out to Speed Queen!

etienne

okay good to know there are other NUMTOTs here

Nathan

It’s so great that the Dems takeaway from the failure of the Biden administration is “real centrism has never been tried.”

Daniel

between the pure people and the corrupt elite ezra knows which side he's on

Bjorn

Lol thank you for making the sound at the beginning of the theme song quieter

Regular guy

Krystal and Kyle made this point and I think it's a good one: You can tell the true ideological abundance guys from the opportunistic freaks by whether or not they hate Zohran Mamdani despite him campaigning on like 75% of their priorities plus a little socialism

Meowzedong

Yup we can trust the body parts gummy garbage lady.

Damen Irving

The things abundance folks say in this reminds me of arguing with my conservative family members back in the day. They just pull things out of their ass to justify some awful thing—not even really supporting their point, just to keep talking. Libs and conservatives are two faces on the same coin so I guess it makes sense but abundance discourse is just gishgalloping with an academic veneer meant to shut your brain down so you just do what they say—even though what they’re saying is obviously wrong.

Oliver Elliott

I highly recommend reading SSC/Astral Codex Ten comments. A very very strange world. Steve Sailer (!) often comes across as the voice of reason only because he’s not completely detached from reality and vaguely understand how human beings operate.

David Statman

❗️❗️WVU MENTIONED❗️❗️ LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS

absoluteboi

how did this get past me? did it happen on x?

absoluteboi

youre not ready for the outro

T

Did Chris just drop a trap/drill type beat at the intermission? Can we please get the next Strokes of Genius set to a trap/drill type beat with Will and Felix on adlibs?

ian

oh yeah?? if centrism is so great name one successful centrist country 😤 i'll wait

etienne

it's all happening on Substack, the Everything Else app

Hunter

The trash is dark and full of terrors

b-rar

Would have been rad if they let her talk a little

Timothy Buttons

Yeah she's on Twitter, big in rationalist/effective accelerationist/Elon Musk circles

Nathan

North Korea 😏

J O T

No reason someone should rap that good for 500 dollars.

T

Holy shit.

T

PLEASE PUT THIS SONG ON STREAMING SERVICES

Dang

National Guard & the Marines are being sent to LA; let's devote the show to talking about how centrists are out of touch

Mojtaba HUSAYNI Khamenei

I guess the centrists should've seen this coming and done literally anything to try win the election then

Dang

Voting against fascism was indeed very cringe

Oliver Elliott

What struck me is how incoherent it seems like this conference was. The WA Congresswoman seems to be the opposite of the ABUNDANCE! program. They apparently criticized open borders a lot, but Yglesias wrote a book called One Billion Americans.

Michael

Did the participants of the Boston Tea Party do any polling to look at the impact their actions would have on public opinion?

b-rar

It's been up for days, the algo was recommending it to me the other day but I didn't know what the hell it was

Damen Irving

God I forgot about that stupid book. Yes exactly. It’s just throw shit at a wall and seeing what sticks—but certainly nothing popular!

etienne

while mayor of Burlington, Bernie setup the land trust system to stabilize (some) property values and it's a magnificient piece of clever technocratic numbers-fucking and it works *great* being a socialist doesn't have to mean being stupid about it. In fact it's probably the only socialist housing policy I've ever heard about besides "behead landlords" or "Red Vienna" two things that are actually against the regulations and not legal

delle_chiaie

damn two Wellbutrin checks this epi, feeling very seen

HarshMalarkey

Northern Virginia sympathizes! Type "Loudoun _4_Palestine" or "LoCo Falastin" into Instagram and give us a follow ❤️🇵🇸

Funny_Hat

That song is incredible. Song of the summer.

DT

Gotta give credit to Felix for pointing out the groundswell of sentiment against the settler colonial police state bullshit that's been coming home to roost. Been reflecting lately on the fact that Trump 1.0 pushed a lot of people in this country leftward just by bloviating about doing what he's actually doing currently. The iron might be heating up.

William Hubel

Weren’t the party libs just yelling that this whole thing is a coup like right after the inauguration? Now it’s about playing electoral guessing games?

William Hubel

I’m not on insta but I’m gonna hit you up on my wife’s account bc I’m from NoVa too and we want to stand for Palestine

HarshMalarkey

Check out the flier we have pinned! Big event next Tuesday, we need all the support we can get! ✊

John Swan

You’re In My Barber Yhop

Christopher Ladd

I love you guys, but why don't you let your guest speak? Aida didn't get a word in edgewise for the last half of the pod..... kinda lame.

Taylor Borie

I don't think they really interrupted her on the pod, they just didn't really ask many questions. That's the format of the show, conversational, not really an interview. Will and Felix bounced off each other and the guest could have joined in. It sounds like maybe the show could do more to prepare the guests for that conversational format

Oliver Elliott

It frustrates me that the American left has no real, coherent housing policy ideas beyond additional rent control and hopes of social housing. Those things are good and I like them. But rent control doesn’t address a lot of problems (and the expensive cities already have some protections) and social housing at any reasonable scale is decades away unfortunately.

Oliver Elliott

Also, social housing is going to need to slay all of the same dragons as YIMBY and then some, so we might as well get working on that.

Gooch Immane

There should be a standard heavy binder documenting the embedded cointelpro gladio nazi gangs peppered thru every major LEO org that could be thrown at any given shitass

Christopher Ladd

I like a conversation, but what's the point of inviting her if you're not going to ask her questions? I've been listening to the show for long enough to know it's a pattern, but I'd like them to get better about this. I wanted to hear more about the freaks at the convention, but they'd let her talk for ten seconds and then proceed to talk over or around her for like twenty minutes. Again I love Will and Felix, I just think they could be better by saying less sometimes.

Sam

"city dwellers don't smell garbage" says person that has obviously never been to NYC

Go'Thrak

Felix I'm sorry you didn't get a good loud laugh at your glasses joke

Don Lasagna

Shout out will for fronting the $500 for the placement

Ben Dayho

Chris! I command you to rein in your ranting rabid dog!

Snooder87

Honestly, the main problem with social housing that the American Left seems incapable of addressing is that it was already tried. We tried it, there were problems, and nobody talking about doing it again has spent even a second considering those problems or proposing new solutions to them, And i'm not even talking about the NIMBY political problems. I'm talking about the issues with continued maintenance, upkeep, security, etc.

K H

Delightful episode.

etienne

I think those problems are real but also that the US in its post-Busing anger did it in an intentionally evil way and that the problems in the social housing are still less bad than the fate of the homeless and also how having so much homelessness is a giant social blight and a huge blocker to do anything else we really want to do like public transit, third spaces, public services that work for people, etc. Very boomer opinion to say that ticky tacky shit like having door checks for house guests is worse than sending the cops on regularly scheduled torture and humiliation raids on the encampment that's on the old Main Street. or also the less discussed fact that towns who really want to and have the budget send their homeless to just jail and how bad do you think life in prison versus some shady inner urban public housing block

Patrick Carroll

The democrats are less Gil and more Hans Moleman

HarshMalarkey

Bro DM the account so I know it's a chapo-head

Agent Grange

I think the point you're all missing here is that Gluesenkamp Perez might suck ass, but she's also an autistic baddie. The hottest thing a woman can be is lame as hell, and she's gotta be the only sitting member of Congress that watches Bluey and Hazbin Hotel. Love her Congress photo in her Dr. Doofenshmirtz turtleneck and leather jacket. She's like if a girl that got rejected at the Saddie Hawkins dance in high school for being too weird grew up to be in a position of national authority. I would do Abundance Year Zero for her.

protob1

I hate the environment, and the sea. It all should burn up, nuclear style.

K H

Yea, I didn't understand that at all. She actually reminds me of Jordan Peterson in that I don't know what her point is supposed to be. Like I thought she lived by the dump. She should live in the dump to be connected to the land or whatever. Where did she think the barber should live? Is everyone meant to live on their own farm? I didn't understand anything she said. How does she get yogurt? Only the glass containers? That will also smell like yogurt if you don't wash it, but you can wash the plastic container too. So wtf is she saying? She just doesn't eat yogurt? I can't stand when people talk for 5 minutes and I understand all their words and phrases, but not what they are saying. It's how I imagine stroke survivors must feel(unc Cush shout out).

K H

I thought she did fine, and her contribution was adequate if sparse. Not everyone needs to constantly speak. Say what you need to say. She's like the opposite of Adam, and not just in her forceful masculine energy.

K H

We need Virginians to get hard and go hard.

K H

What do you mean? The public housing would be integrated with non public housing like it was in the UK. Why would you need extra security unless it was segregated like the projects? Maintenance isn't a difficult problem, if it is built it can be maintained, and if it is integrated into the rest of the community there will remain popular support to maintain it.

K H

Yea it was super cringe to vote Green but I did it anyway to oppose fascism.

T

He just hates her for not drinking soda

K H

Malcom X pointed all this shit out long ago. Like this whole conversation has already been had. Even George Carlin talked about it. They won't learn unless taught, won't stop unless stopped. Who knows how long this same back and forth has been going on. Only the technology is changing.

J. A.

Aida talked

meow meow

What’s even the point of having a guest on if you don’t even try to engage for most of the episode? When she does speak, you guys immediately interrupt her.

The Adventures of Mac

Felix mentioned a “Welbutrin trip” and that shit is not something you can sleep through.

BB

hell yeah neph

MCL

Mein Glusenkamph

delle_chiaie

Land trust system is interesting for sure but to assert it's the only socialist housing policy worth mentioning is baffling. social housing is and has always been a defining component of socialist approaches to urbanization. it has a bad rap in America because projects here were built as self-contained enclaves with abysmal levels of investment, but it's a different animal in places with less sprawl and a marginally better social spending net. so yeah, it's not the be-all-end-all, but a functional social housing regime is often the only real buttress against homelessness and should have pride of place in any leftist housing platform.

Fernslinger

Did 6 million groups really die? If they did, it wasn’t enough.

Tucci

rxknephew is dope wow

Shadowil

Always keep crayons in your pocket, when a marine runs up on you throw the crayons on the ground. They should snack long enough for you to get away.

BungoChubbins

Holy shit I actually used the exact same Cas Mudde definition in the introductory paragraph of a freshman year paper on populism.

BungoChubbins

Even I knew not to use “Webster’s defines” from Lionel Hutz

CS

Needs to vape more. Especially on mic

Ryan

She's just like me for real; lame.

Felix

They obsess over "populism" so much because they can't get around the fact that they are terminally unpopular

Phil N

The other problem is the choice was between her and Joe Kent, a sociopathic ex-Green Beret who was glad to be associated with Proud Boys and those Patriot Prayer freaks. Shit situation all around.

Phil N

Do you think Joe Kent will run against her for a 3rd time?

Austin Williams

Glutenkampf is what you become if you read Wendell Berry in installments in the first hour after a concussion or on the drugs from the dentist

ronan

post the rxk song as a separate ep chris im begging

Austin Williams

the inner torment of the nerd is one of the beefier pillars holding up our shitty politics

Austin Williams

I do lament that she's dumb as shit because there are exactly zero people with serious ecological concern or understanding in positions of real power.

Sebastian

How on earth was that track only $500

Mark Schneider

A favorite website of mine had a Jonathan Chait piece last week, garbage as one would expect, he was previewing the DimmieCrap "Abundance" agenda and reminded everyone they should just luuuurv their "private health care" plan, Medical Debt is good for the economy. The Dimmie "Abundance" grift is just recycled Newt Gingrich slop grafted off of Jack Kemp "Enterprise Zones" in poor neighborhoods. Hey, those darkies don't need safety regulations, child labor laws, throw them some dangerous jobs and they will work for peanuts (or watermelons?) and be grateful. Race to the bottom, stupid American peasants, we'll give you feudalism and you'll be grateful. The Kamala Kumbaya Genocide Dimmie Convention last year was just a recycled version of Joe Lieberman at the (R) convention in 2008, mansplaining that you need to love that boot that is kicking you in the face for all eternity from 1984. Big Brother is Uncle Donald's (rolling around on his gold pile while eating a Big Mac) admin, and they win bigly. Thus the DimmieCraps can only envy and emulate, never resist. Bush Jr. tanked his 2nd admin early by trying to convince the R's that taking away their Social Security and Medicare would create an "Opportunity Society" they could invest in the Stock Market and become Gajillionaires in no time!! Even the R. Base knew better. Donald wants to gut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid for millionaire tax cuts, and the Dimmiecraps don't say a word in opposition, just create their own absurd debt peonage scam. Alan Colmes never won a single debate on the Hannity show as he was only hired to be a punching bag. The Dimmies play the same role in the Duopoly Owners Political Economy System (DOPES).

Mark Schneider

Also, Bush Jr. tanked his 2nd term by trying to convince the R's that destroying Social Security and Medicare would let them invest in the Stock Market and become gajillionaires. Even the R. base had more brains than to buy that. Notice the D's aren't saying a word while Mafia Don wants to gut Social Security and Medicare to give a giant tax break to the billionaire donors. They could WIN an election by saying they'd fight that (and then just as Joe Biden did 2021-25 with the promised $15 minimum wage letting a "Parliamentarian" firebomb that idea), but those suckers don't want to win, they only want NOT to offend the Donors or the Zionist state.

Dunc

Rare MGP win on the garbage collection issue, at least from the standpoint of it being unambiguously good to be faced with your trash etc.

Dunc

But maybe that is a sign that I should interrogate my own Year Zero leanings

TLT

The song is so unreal bravo

paul

56:50: “I’m so glad you brought that up…” and they blow right by her. I came here for a spoiler about whether she even bothers trying again before the end.

Paul Wolfman

Maybe worth mentioning the zoning permits?

R K

Marie ‘Asmongold’ Perez

Aaron Friedland

Reeling from the fact that the welcomefest people don’t realize the SCOTUS is already packed and basically has no power over Trump

Aaron Friedland

Right, it’s not the producers of the trash, the large corporations using cost cutting measures to package everything in plastic. It’s my fault for enjoying some yogurt.

Dunc

Ah. I remember being 22.

Dunc

It is not a good policy suggestion, sure, but also it is not dembrain to think that seeing and having to deal (at least minimally) with the trash you create has a negative impact on consumption of single-packaged plastic goods, etc., something I know because I have done it extensively

Nate Christy

‘There is nothing to believe in’ is perfect summary

mark kuchonowski

this girl sounds nice but also like 10 years old

J Fitz

Am I wrong or was it not even ten years ago that “optics” in its current usage was merely obnoxious PR-speak. It drives me crazy to hear everybody using it earnestly now

J K

MGP is so fucking weird irl

nick schultz

Good news tho, she's really cute and looks 16.

Jonathan G

Gluesenkamp hive stand back and stand by

Andrew

Yeah he’s Tulsi Gabbard’s chief of staff and the director of the nat’l counterterrorism center. I don’t really think about it much because there’s so much else front and center, but the DoD has gotta be teeming with absolute freaks and Nazis right now.

DMTotinos

I could not figure out her deal until I heard she went to Reed, it all made sense then

DMTotinos

MY favorite MGP factoid is how she constantly talks about how her and her husband are small business owners that own an "auto body shop" to appear blue collar, then you dig a little it turns out really he mods those little hipster japanese micro vans

DMTotinos

also as noted elsewhere, her going to Reed College is the explanation for everything, it churns out people like this

Michael

Both of you are weird af

🫶🏽

i feel like john fettywapman

Blake B

That’s… her favorite candy… psychotic

Trout Mask Original

Loves me an old-school Chapo episode of non-stop ridicule of freakish democrats (aka democrats).

Trout Mask Original

Also, that's what she *publicly announces* is her favorite food.

Jessica

if one of his zoomer staffers shows him the song i think he would just respond with "this is antisemetic. october 7th" then walk along the wall like an oblivion character

Blake B

good point… even more grim

Austin Williams

And good on hippie colleges for having people read that kind of stuff, but no political economy does what it does to a mfer.

eduard karpoev

She is from South western Washington, so Vancouver Washington a suburb of Portland, but also a large portion of her district is the Olympic Penisula Rainforests.

eduard karpoev

Good podcast, but y'all should've let her speak a little more imo

Chapo Bath House

MGP 's trash stance sounds like me when I don't buy a bus pass so that I'll bike to work more, but then I take the bus anyways and waste a bunch of money

Chapo Bath House

This is like when I didn't have any friends in middle school, and I thought it was because I was so much smarter than everyone else, but I was slightly above average in most subjects and horrible to be around

Walpurgisnacht

the "abundance" democrats' theory of power sounds like they read Carl Schmidt's critique of Liberalism and were like "I agree with everything he says about liberalism except that i think all the things he thinks are bad about it are good actually" which is the most alien and inhuman possible conclusion to come away from Schmidt with. His beliefs were repellant, but at least they came honestly from the worst impulses of humanity. This abundance shit is so alienated and phantasmagorical. It makes humans the objects of history, not the subjects. Its an abject surrender of human agency, not to a Great Leader, not to a God, not even to an abstract notion of historical inevitability, but to a series of gestures and empty signifiers. To a Vibe. Its like someone heard a christian describe atheism as a religion and then decided to make a cargo cult based on that description.

Walpurgisnacht

theyre republicans who like to lie to themselves about how racist they are

Pat Morrison

great song great guest thanks for posting fellas

Ivan

Khmer Rube

syd

Looking up photos of Marie Gluesenkamp Perez and I've never been so irritated by someone's bangs before

sandman

500 dollars for the song of the summer? That’s a robbery

MaxyMax

I've been listening to the Oregon legislature sessions and some doofus recently invoked Ezra Klein's Abundance book in his grandstanding against a proposed vacancy tax. It really crystalized to me where all this is coming from.

Jim Chapman

Democratic Leadership Council 2.

HarshMalarkey

Indeed. Follow LoCo Falastin on Instagram 🇵🇸 ✊❤️

Sam D

It's on RXK's YouTube channel

Eamon Short

Was "Hey Guys" at the start an On Cinema at the Cinema reference?