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Will & Felix catch up on Zohran Mamdani’s stunning victory in the NYC Democratic primary for mayor. We look at how the campaign was so successful, Andrew Cuomo’s manifest failure running against him, and the explosion of hilarious and psychotic negative reactions from various segments of the political & media world. Then, we’re joined by Alan Siegel, author of the new book Stupid TV, Be More Funny to discuss how the golden age of The Simpsons changed television and created the greatest achievement in American culture of all time.

Pick up Stupid TV, Be More Funny here: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/alan-siegel/stupid-tv-be-more-funny/9781538742846/

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Agent Grange

Holy shit, episode from the future!

Jeremy

Zohran and The Simpsons. This couldn’t possibly be more directed at my exact interests.

jer

CREAM

Ana

You're all back to sheepdogging for the Dems, I see. Didn't take long. Lessons? Who needs to learn lessons? Because everything worked out so great last time let's GO AGAIN! BERNIE 2028! We'll definitely reform the Dems this time!

Steeeeve

Shut da fuck up

Ana

Catch a bullet, steve

Last Years Man

May the subways be on time, inshallah!

Masda Bugg

Poor Will and his stomac. He's going to get an ulcer with all these sinking feelings

Last Years Man

Because preemptive surrender clearly offers less chance of defeat than fighting and losing? Your pessimism is warranted, but this is a genuine positive development.

JD Nonce

The freaks on CNN/Fox are mad. Feels good to see the people I hate feel bad. I saw Zohran in the flesh during a 15 day hunger strike for taxi drivers outside of city hall in Manhattan in 2021. He, along with with the taxi drivers, were in wheel chairs because they were too frail to stand. I knew (at least I really really think) that he’s a Real One. I have no confidence in the Democrats obviously but I feel like he’s going to be good. Please god, allah, kami-sama, whatever, please let him be good.

Alex Gullen

So Zohran just beat Zohan. Who said don’t mess..?

Timothy Buttons

You're being really not normal right now

Jake

Congratulations!!!!

Declan Kennedy

how much do you reckon The Lobby is regretting making undying support for Israel a defining question of this race? just kidding, regret would require introspection and shame one thing I disagree with Felix about regarding Jez; I don't think that he ever tried to apologise because he thought it would make the issue go away, I think that he felt the need to apologise because he is the most genuinely kind and good person to ever be in politics and always assumes good faith from people who don't deserve it obviously that's not great instincts politically but I just wanted to make the point that his instincts are generally NOT political, he is actually a real one

Reed

Chew on the barrel of a 9mm

interzoa

The globalized intifada WILL provide baby baskets inshallah 🙏🇮🇷

Chapo Bath House

Weirdly, it doesn't hurt to be cautiously optimistic after good things happen. It even helps win people over, when you can be normal and or experience joy. Also, you still get to be mad later.

Reed

I feel stupid what are baby baskets

RemixedOtaku

It's something normal countries give to women when they give birth it has items usually to help you during the first few months like a starter kit for babies

Joe

Sorry to cut Felix off — but at about 11:00 it clicked for me — Zohran is the type of Bernie-candidate that we were all promised in the early Chapo-Revolution: a nice young lad who can win a statistically significant election and exert the power granted there-in without scaring the normies too much. We’re still scared of the “normies” rebelling; and at this point: I think that the instincts of 2008, 2016, and 2024 are still valid — normies want what we have wanted ever since they showed up in mass to elect a trifecta necessary to codify socialized healthcare into law. Time is on our side.

Jennifer Wiren

Now I have 'Happy Birthday Lisa' in my head. I usually hate TV show music but the peak Simpsons had some genuine bangers (See the Constitution one, 'If he fights back we'll say that he's gay'). How to win hearts and minds.

Rhys Hayes

I live all the way over in Australia and I woke up today as a Muslim, by order of the Caliph Zoran, ruler of New Baghdad (formerly New York). This is nothing to joke about, guys

Patrick Mc Toal

It’s embarrassing how much I needed this. Z for Victory!

Dec

Iconically Australian name. Adelaide or Syd?

K H

Alone we are weak, but together we form a mighty fagot!

ERIC

Interesting political solidarity you bring to table Ana. The world will definitely improve if we threaten potential allies with violence and anarchy as opposed to say, working with them against corporate interests.

Travis

Felix begins speaking at 1 minute and 16 seconds

THEKILLERWHALE

I am the same demographic as Will and Alan. Later in life I have come to the conclusion that George Bush and Tipper Gore were actually correct and that the influence of the Simpsons actually did make me a worse kid as they defined it. I remember breaking rules more consciously and overtly after seeing Bart relish in his mischief. I break with them insofar as I do not think that is necessarily a bad thing and maybe it even made me cooler and a better adult. But I will give the devil his due.

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Bussing corporate Democrats to polling places like Keith David, screaming 'Vote Blue No Matter Who.'

Blank

Call me crazy but my halal bodega BEC order is turkey egg and cheese

Alex Weber

Turn my headphones up! All I wanna be is El Chapo! Don’t mess with the Zohran!

Joe S.

New Yorkers can have a little Shariah law, as a treat.

oo __

wish i could have the clarity of vision, hermetically sealed from even the most placid form of joy, that you have Ana. The Revolution Will Not Be Upvoted!!!

thicchatlogan

leave the learned helplessness shit to the libs

danny

this episode feels like 2019🙏🙏

Mattc83

What a wonderful ray of sunshine in this sea of shit! Go Zohran!

Corey Reynolds

Hey now! I’m from Dog Dick, Tennessee and I love NYC. Why am I catching strays?

Colm Freeman Smyth

It’s been a bad week for the libs; let’s hope it gets worse

Giancarlo Buonamici

I've only seen a couple episodes of old simpsons, but Will's interview made me emotional talking about the magic of the writers' room

K H

I admittedly don't understand the position of mayor, or understand the ability of a mayor to do anything other than muzzle or let loose cops, but I'm glad to see him win if only out of spite. Spite is undervalued as an electoral motivator. If he succeeds it will hopefully auger the same DESPERATELY needed improvements and policy changes to cities across the US. Just to keep my metrics up for the day, fuck Israel.

K H

Cops will try to rat fuck him somehow. He should just start firing cops actually. Too many, and they just stand around anytimd I see them. Taking up valuable space.

John Culkin

My favorite part of the Cuomo “campaign,” was him constantly running red lights and going through stop signs.

Sam

Oliver Elliott

I’d like to see one mayor just start firing chiefs and captains until they get to the inevitable ambitious people underneath who will actually do what the mayor says to do.

absoluteboi

loved the interview. the first 10 seasons are sacrosanct in my home.

Sam Cook

The rare 100% smiles episode. I am ear to ear!

parker

I will say luckily in this case day one in office he can do two of his promises. Mayor has control of rent control in NYC and can dictate rate increases. So he can definitely freeze rents. And secondly he can absolutely get some bills signed into law. Some of them he promised and those will move fast.

Jingle Jangler

We needed this win real bad. And I live in fucking ohio jaha

Jingle Jangler

Take the win. Rest your mind, center up. Any port in a storm, my friend

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

look, if getting Zohran elected makes one billionaire go out like Louis Del Grande in Scanners, it won't be enough but it would be better than we've gotten in a long-ass time.

Sam

I’ll try, winning is a new experience to me

Brian Johnson

Don't live in NYC anymore but very happy to see anything good happen in the world

MCL

Lots of “I love lamp” style comments from Felix on this one

GuthriesGhost

Very curious what bullshit specifically you think anyone is falling for

Siddhartha

Wow, Ana Kasparian is a subscriber?

Oliver Clozov

in the past few elections philly has gotten our own local version of whatever mayor NYC elected. i cannot WAIT to see philly zoran

Elai Kehler

now we need the “oh my god something bad happened” episode supercut

Jim Rae

Is it possible that the Simpsons are the great American novel?

Aaron Enold

Congrats will! Hopefully more New Yorkers follow your lead and convert to Islam!

Natalie

Thinking about how this episode could've been called You don't mess with the Zohran...feel free to appropriate for future use

A.M. Wreckloose

Had a writing class in college with Alan, glad to see he's doing well. Will def be picking up this book

SF

No.

Damen Irving

It was cool when the mayor of Chicago was pro-Palestinian very early on, but too bad he’s failed in almost every other regard (some of which has been outside his control but cmon man). Way to go NYC for beating us once again

Damen Irving

Learn from our example. The forces of capital and property developers will try to ratfuck him into the dirt

Hemlock

Using my conservative aunt's Wi-Fi to download the Zohran episode has got me humming battle hymn of the republic chat

DT

I thought it was to get more dog dick? Are you just taking them to the humane society without taking the knot?

ERIC

The pain of dealing with loser state level politicians who control major funding channels is the issue. Both states need to oust corrupt politicians in the pockets of the big city developers. We have to scare these losers into actually being politicians again OR cut out the financier of the Florida winter homes and random Euro/Caribbean vacations.

Damen Irving

Second only to Billy and the cloneasaurus

NewPangaea

My thoughts exactly. We've transcended, gang.

ERIC

Firing wiggums is an excellent idea.

dfumps

The Lost City of Z

Zach Sampson

Hey man I'd get the fuck out of there, the jihad is coming and i texted Zohran your name.

etienne

it's a Subway vs. Cars election and the subway blew it out

Jonathan G

Blink and you'll miss it, but Felix admits to being into white blonde women early on in this episode

Justin

Just so everyone is aware, this guy’s LinkedIn says his current position is “Bram Stocker Award Winner/freelance fiction writer” lmfao

AuxMulder

As someone the same age, we are probably insufferable dorks when we talk about The Simpsons, but I could do it all day.

Michael

The REAL Patriots are now in control in NYC.

Cara

London person here, our mayor is Muslim. Also tommy robinson still has a ton of influence here.

Sam

I remember an interview where Conan said the writers would try to reward viewers who would get a reference joke without punishing people who didn’t, and it’s crazy how far that extended. Why did nine year old me crack up at “extended warranty? How can I lose?”

Michael

John Swartzwelder I think was also the guy who wrote the Bill Clinton jokes, “I’ve done it with pigs,” which have actually aged quite well for obvious reasons.

TallSquirrel

Diddy called. He ran out of baby oil at da freak off

I.P. Freely

“Life is pain … but also worth living” is an ethos of Chapo too 🤝

drunk cig

Good episode, however I have already depicted myself as the sleek Family Guy Millennial and you as the seething Simpsons Millennial

C. Ries

Zohran’s first act should be to deport Anna and Dasha

Kamran Husain

i as a 9 year old started saying pornography because of that mr plow bit

Taylor Markey

“A write in campaign in New York City” feels like the new “Starting a land war in Asia”

J

Hey guys--the date on this episode is wrong. If you could correct it, that would be appreciated. Thank you. Jacob

Alex

28:30 the reason why Muhammad is the most common name in UK has to do with South Asia. Vast vast majority of Muslims in UK are from South Asia specifically Mirpur district of Pakistani Kashmir. In south Asian Muslim culture almost all males are given Muhammad as first names so much so that most have second first names that they go by. Hence folks we know as Nawaz Sharrif, Bollywood Superstar Aamir Khan, Shehbaz Sharrif, General Zia Ul Haq. All have Muhammad as their first name. UK has 6 % Muslim and 5 % Pakistani Muslim population. Imagine if 5 % of your countrymen has one name as first name, of course its gonna be ranked 1st.

ERIC

Chris can you link the remember shuffle Simpson episodes for the people?

Jackson

The date is pretty often off by a day if you go back and look at title vs. published. I think it's just dated to when they recorded the episode

The Master

Man Stroker Award winner

J.P. McD.

Why are people so annoying about wanting their TV to be high art? It’s a TV show and that’s fine and good!

Boggs

Episode title is the wrong date

Bob K Ross

We can't all be Young Chomsky!

Richard Cochnar

I did a Simpsons season 3-8 rewatch last year and I definitely appreciated the show way more than I did as a kid. It’s so fucking funny even to this day.

Wyatt the Wallaby

I can see the septa cuts on the horizon being a big issue for that style of campaign

Reed

Ok thank you

Richard Cochnar

Underrated Simpsons joke: when they are debating leaving Springfield to go work for Hank Scorpio, they are fretting that they can’t move because even if they could pay off the mortgage, they’d be losing money. Then Homer and Marge look at each other, and smash cut to them hammering a piece of wood over the front door that simply says “Abandoned.”

Blank

Congrats to Kath on joining Current Affairs! When worlds collide :)

Chapo Bath House

Calgary, Alberta had a Muslim mayor and the city just got temporarily more chill with gay people, until the whole province got q pilled

Chapo Bath House

I forgot transportation existed and was thinking sandwich chain vs Pixar movie

Chapo Bath House

Honestly, full professional name in the Chapo Patreon comments is pretty ballsy. Gotta respect it, unfortunately

demonsweat

Z (hopefully not Costa-Gavras)

Chapo Bath House

I'm not even American, but Adams needs to step down as mayor so Trump can appoint him the new VP and immediately die.

Niko

Are there RadioWarNerd crossover episodes....hearing Jon dolan's name was a pleasant surprise. Lots of fantastic episodes at RWN

protob1

This is the equivalent of at least five to twelve 9/11s.

C. Ries

They don’t care. That’s 6% too much in their eyes

Chuck

John Dolan has been on Chapo 3 times. Episodes 203 (4/19/18), 331 (7/10/19), and 659 (9/1/22).

Watermane

As a white guy: inshAllah

danny

this is brave

GWAR-a-Lago

I had a random roommate in Chicago like 15 years ago who did improv, and when she saw all my Simpsons DVDs she told me she'd never seen it. I was shocked because she was like 25 and ostensibly into comedy. I told her it's my favorite show, that I fall asleep to it every night, and that she had to watch. She watched a couple of my favorite episodes with me, didn't laugh at all. Later I learned she also fell asleep to DVDs of her favorite show every night, Boy Meets World, which would make her cackle. Loudly. Side note, first time I met her bf (also an improviser, but with a drama/theater background), he picked up my Eastbound and Down DVD, looked at me stone-faced and goes, "Seriously? It's so sophomoric." Just an altogether dogshit couple.

jkjkjkj

One thing that isn’t discussed enough here is that this shattered the exact coalition that the democrats had relied on to beat progressive/socialist candidates over the past decade, which is the alliance that was formed around 2016 between black voters and moderates, which delivered Hillary and Biden nyc in 2016/2020, cuomo the governship and adams the mayorship and royally ate shit this time. In a lot of ways I think that’s what’s causing such a major freakout among Dems because it means their winning formula for centrist victories has been placed on fraud watch

Brian

What also helped Zoran was that he actually had true solidarity with Brad lander. Unlike Elizabeth Warren, lander didn't backstab zohran

C. Ries

Theater kid genocide

Jon

Is this a bit or are you actually autistic

Jessica

i take offense to this as a 5'11 european descent woman

Jessica

chorizo law

Jessica

(everyone gets a delightful spiced sausage with their meal)

Michael S. Judge

#1 Krusty will always be "I Heartily Endorse This Product and/or Event!"

absoluteboi

brandon backs down way too easily, that's his problem. still dont regret supporting him even though he's bellyflopped on almost everything

Mfusion

Groening's Life In Hell comic provided a significant framework for the show

Matthew

Seasons 3-9 is the sweet spot 🧐

Craig

Interesting that they didn't mention a particularly egregious tweet from a certain vile Armenian broad...

TimBob RN

I was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan when I was a teen, and it blew my mind when they were on the Simpsons .

Jacob

The coastoid shit ends at 34:05

Rxk Lenderman

it’s lonely being the only guy on the left who doesn’t care about the simpsons. still an interesting interview tho

Jimmy McMillan

The fact that Zoran is demonized by the main stream democrats, shows how grotesque they are. " Why are people voting for this young socialist when we provided them with a perfectly good old sex offender?" It's like an old sitcom I watched called the Munsters, where the one pretty blond girl was considered ugly by the rest of her monster family

J Fitz

There was a time in my life when, despite not working there, I got to spend quite a bit of time in and around the Simpsons writer’s room. I got to meet a few of the show’s living legends who were still there. John Vitti and his wife once set me up on a blind date. I can even say I made a contribution to a gag that made it to air. This was far from the “golden” era, and the room was truly one of the most miserable, demoralized environments I’ve ever witnessed, with the showrunner at the time being the single worst office manager I’ve ever seen

Zen Ben

'The interesting thing here is that the NY Dem kingpins tried to Corbin him, and this time it didn't work' 10:35

T33ny

Thanks now i know where to restart the episode to savor this win

Lynn Waldon

Thank you Felix and Will and everyone who works on this for what you do. I'm so glad you're both here doing this awesome hilarious work. Y'all make me feel so at home twice a week.

Sneed

I always hated it

parker

Tbf hate and apathy are power tools for writing. Like every single great Russian or Soviet novel and like half of the great novels of the 1970s to 1990s are basically articulations of why authors hate the fuck out of some people.

parker

I will say looking at the result after a few days has passed the fact that alot of black voters stayed with Cuomo more so than the white contingency really shows just how brain broken the primary voter is. The avg black voter who goes to primaries seems to only care about electability witch I understand but holy shit Cuomo is an obvious loser lol. He's literally a cartoon character and somehow people legit thought he would be the "safer" choice. As I said I understand about caring about electability when your an over 30 African American voter but at some point people gotta look at themselves and ask why the fuck everyone under 30 is not even considered Cuomo an option.

Kevin

I for one am excited to be sent to Hasan's house under Devshirme

Jacob

A real win would be moving to literally anywhere else on earth

Eli

We tried nothin and we’re all out of ideas

Jacob

Least annoying New Yorker

Oliver Elliott

It’s like when the Jacobites got big in the US in the 1940s and 4% of boys were named James.

janedoe8265

Why does will talk like he has a handful of gooey marbles in his mouth? Literally how is he even making those sounds?

Reece Coren

Felix goes to equinox? Since when?

Jeremy

Was this Scully or Jean?

Raphael Wakefield

Very appropriate guest for CTH's Season 9 Simpsons-esque abrupt collapse in quality, as it tries to make up for association with various disgraced celebrities by hitting the cheap joke button harder

Salid Tahsaar

You find self deprecation annoying, yet insist on having Adam Friedland on the show atleast once a year. Fascinating.

Joachim Macdonald

so glad that chapo agrees with me as a lifelong resident of london that it sucks ass

Nathaniel Weiner

The Santana album was called "Supernatural" bc they took turns playing Resident Evil in the studio. This is a true fact stated.

Sean

"He looked like a Ralph Steadman character IRL" is a WILD thing to say about a dude 🤣🤣

Rhys Hayes

Neither - I'm on the west coast, my friend

Rhys Hayes

Wow, that's really interesting. Thanks for an unexpectedly informative Patreon comment 👍

Craig

Anna from Red Scare pod

Ian

No love for Homer’s reading glasses?