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1055 - The Hills Have Eyes 2 feat. Jasper Nathaniel (7/20/26) (Patreon)

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2026-07-21 00:59:06
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Journalist Jasper Nathaniel returns to the show for another look at the state of the West Bank. We talk about continuing settler rampages, mass shootings ignored by Israeli authorities, and Ro Khanna’s recent trip to the occupied lands.

Jasper's article: https://www.infinitejaz.com/p/a-hellish-month-in-the-occupied-west

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J. A.

Weee

A Kayyy

these ones are very difficult to get through. important and I'm gonna listen, but it's absolutely infuriating and rage-inducing to just take in this information knowing nothing will be done and most of us can only sit back, watch, and scream when given the chance. cheers to the few that are continuing to try, putting their lives on the line, getting in these monster's faces and doing what they can to help the Palestinians though 🖤

etienne

excellent pairing with the last Radio War Nerd about the western media genocide whitewash campaign. the Suicidal Delight

etienne

just from the title I thought this was about the new JD Vance book

jordan

My heart hurts

Deadshr00m

I followed Jasper's Substack after one of the previous shows he's been on so I knew this was coming. Haven't listened yet but with the preview I've had from his reporting, I'm mentally preparing myself

ploob

Yeah, that Adam Johnson dude rocked.

Alec

I’m JD Vance’s new baby. Hopefully I get baptized unlike my heathen mother.

NYCM&AHole

The story about the father who lost his son made me cry. I want fires to cleanse the earth of the state of Israel and its rotten people

Markus Kraköwski

shockingly the horror movie is actually less rapey

Travis

Felix begins speaking at 10 minutes and 39 seconds

Keith

Israel and the US government are one and the same. You cannot take on one without also taking the other on, and both are more than ready to use violence to protect their positions.

Kelley

It's a tough listen.

Reece Coren

Jasper and all the West Bank reporters are truly heroes ❤️

Ali Rayray

God bless Jasper, so succinctly put that Israel is the enemy of humanity. To be honest it isnt a matter of two state solutions or one state where Palestinians have to endure living next to genocidal lunatics who get off on abusing animals and rape. This society needs to be destroyed, the squatters, thugs, and demons whom call themselves israeli either forcibly removed, and de nazified. It is the most evil repugnant thing to exist on this earth today, it cannot exist

outb0undflight

It'll be by one of those Society of Saint Pius X guys and it won't count.

Alec

Should have named me Pontius

Chubby Justin

we should send all of Congress to the west bank so they can be detained and abused in custody. they would love it

Hot Rod

NGL I saw the title and thought this was Movie Mindset S3 E1

Evan Pitkin

The clear sense of impunity these "settlers" relish in as they openly steal will always be what I think of when I think about Israel and Israelis. That is the essence of Israel.

Alec

Fitting that the outro music is the song they play at the end of Come and See

Kamran Husain

No person alive today not in Hamas deserves heaven

j matt

Respect to Jasper for not knowing Josh Shapiro's name. More people should do this.

Cody Nicholas Suka

Good episode but whats with the Olga in bed music at the end?

interzoa

It's international Salo and it seems it means little to anyone in the highest seats of power except for opportunity, and I mean even those in support of this. Its zen Amorality at the top and murder/suicide orgasm for the lower lumpen elite. While a village tries to sleep at night and go to school

Rachel B

"west Bank settlers are valid military targets" -Ethan Klein

Evan Pitkin

I somehow wasn't ready to be this angry. Holy shit.

Soda enthusiast

The masses in the semi periphery call abbas the white wolf the of the westbank

Posadist Tutor

Democrats will turn support for Palestine into a meaningless signifier. This era will be judged by the treatment of the Palestinians. Westerners deserve nothing.

Isaac Salazar

Even if he only is doing it cynically for political expediency that is a good thing. You want the right thing to be the easy way. If you expect politicians to do the right thing morally, we’re looking at the wrong place.

birdguy123457

East and West Germany was a 2 state solution 🤔

Cassie

I don’t know that it’s possible for the standard Dem politician to understand the absolute rage many of us feel towards Israel. It is now a core part of me. It’s never going to fade. There’s nothing they can do to win me back. I cannot vote for an Israel supporter.

Jake Zydek

"just take it" is EXACTLY what the Ro "Kumbaya" Khanna thinks the Palestinians should do. did this guy not fucking listen to the fuckin interview. What's this Pollyanna shit Jasper is on?

dfumps

It already is; look how many zealots Platner amassed by paying lip service

Charles Voelger

With the film title reference I'm forced to ask when will we get more movie mindset?

Michael

“I missed the texts from his staff because I was busy getting assaulted myself.” I don’t think there’s a more courageous journalist than Jasper Nathaniel right now. (He might be a touch crazy too).

justdave

Damn, imagine being a Palestinian communist

Borice 19

When I listened to part one I actually got a little nauseous, so I'm really eager to hear this one.

John Lisowy

Very good, even though it leaves me feeling disgusted and exhausted. Palestine is an issue that, for any moral clarity and seriousness, requires regular updates. The last 3 years have made it that for my entire life, I can never forgive the Israelis, I’ll hate them till the day I die.

Ian H

Sometimes I remember the Lavender AI targeting sub-program the IDF designed to determine when a target had just arrived home named "Where's Daddy?" and just lose it again, picturing my daughter rushing to the door. The Israelis really have used high-tech, ultra-alienating fascist indoctrination to turn themselves into enemies of everything human.

Chubby Justin

it makes me want to do things to richie torres i can't say online

EmileHabibyFanpage

Best thing us vegetables can do is write about it, talk about it and if given the chance or even in making the chances to engage in protest. What Westerners do have is a lot of cultural power. The way things have been moving has changed policy. It just is (as it has been for the past 100 or so years) excruciatingly slow. But consider this, “the” holocaust had no coverage or knowledge about it. We have the consciousness to object and put our bodies on the line

Doug Cartel

Remember kids: dissent is never tolerated, and obedience is never enough

Thomas Côté

"there is legislation maybe coming down the pipe that could materially help people I know personally... But maybe its a net negative, i dont know the answer to that". Damn thats an interesting question, maybe we SHOULD find an answer to it and act accordingly. Or i guess we could just wait and see then report on it.

Thomas Côté

Not saying this to shit on the guy, but these types of questions when asked beg answers. Its all of our responsibility to try to answer them.

Doug Cartel

Yeah whenever people whine about Palestinians being homophobic all I answer with is "it's hard to be enlightened when bombs are falling constantly" Kirk and others like him accuse Hamas of throwing gay people off of buildings, but my recollection is that ISIS were the first people accused of that, and I assume westerners decided Hamas was doing the same because HAMAS EVIL PLEASE IGNORE BIBI BRIBING HAMAS

drizzly_november

“Put some respeck on my name, y’all feel me?” - Josh Shapiro

Sam Lewis

I am filled with immense rage

Richard Fitzgerald

i watch everyone suddenly shitting on khanna with suspicion. look how everyone turned on him after he called out the idf. im sure im alone in this but scahill was a petulant shit in that interview.

GueritoDeLaBahia

That episode and this one made me so enraged. The Nazi parallel is really striking, and the media critic on war nerd really laid it out

Mojtaba HUSAYNI Khamenei

Khanna said Israel has a right to kill Palestinians and that Palestinians don't have a right to fight back and he's the one who needs to be defended from "petulant" journalists who point that out

Cascadia Breadloaf

Any other thoughts on this episode? Or is that your main takeaway?

Guydude

That's being in the PFLP, DFLP, or PFLP-GC.

ST Promotion

The concept of someone being the kindest person you've ever met simply because you didn't want to kill them just makes me wanna weep

Houthi & the Blowfish

Describing that 7mo scenario.... I went from genuine horror to visceral anger and had to pause this to scream. How could you ever forgive that?

Marisa

Sitting here feeding my baby listening to this story about the father watching his baby son be murdered. I feel like I’m going to be sick.

Travis

Hello and I hope you have a great day 😘

DB Parenti

Mozart's "Lacrimosa", plays at the end of an absolute banger anti-war film "Come and See", as in come and see the horrors and atrocities of WW2, young man.

Temp

The pictures of Fahd Abu Haikal mourning his baby and carrying his body are almost too much to bear.

Scott La Londe

Adam Johnson said it best- This was an incredible interview that everyone needs to watch. Expect more of exactly what Ro Khanna is doing from other politicians in the run up to 2028: cynically using Palestinians, to position themselves as in line with a growing anti-Israel base while not really doing much of anything to hold the U.S. govt policies and Israel accountable for the occupation, apartheid and genocide. This is all image management and Jeremy Scahill showcases it by this brilliant interrogation.

Scott La Londe

The role of media (at least in theory) is to expose contradictions, esp racist ones. That Khanna believes Palestinians have zero right to self-defense whereas Israel ought to be able to kill 6K children (how long it took for Khanna to call for a ceasefire) is extremely edifying. That Khanna’s plan for Palestinian peace and justice is to simply roll over and die and/or beg for American benevolence whereas Israel gets to murder upwards of 15,000 Palestinians to “eliminate” the “terrorists” is useful to know because it’s obviously unserious and racist. If Khanna wants to make a principled pacifist argument against violence as such he’s welcome to but he’s very much not! He’s explicitly saying only one side gets to use legitimate military violence—by definition—for no coherent reason other than it gives him the ick.

Biannual Beats

There haven’t been any “fun” episodes in a WHILE

B R

I've cut back on my alcohol consumption and started eating more vegetables because I am determined to outlive the state of Israel.

hey_boo

Is anyone else just angry all the time? The psychotic bully behavior of the settlers and Israelis just makes me want to scream. But I don't know what to do other than donate money and harass my elected officials who never answer the phone.

GueritoDeLaBahia

When it comes to politics, Palestine is a red line. No more tolerating Liberal Z BS both sides-ism. We need real internationalism.

Sam Lewis

How am I supposed to listen to a story of a monster sniping school kids from a hilltop then walk into my office and meet with people like everything is business as usual?

Klemke

Almost as off-putting as caping for liberal Zionist Democrats. Dems like Ro Khanna and Brad Lander and AOCIA have one purpose: managing a negative rhetorical shift towards Israel to reflect public sentiment while ensuring that actual policy changes are minimal. These Dems are going to approach Israel like they approach healthcare; occasionally making the right noises and "being better than some other politicians" but somehow never getting around to doing the bare minimum. Liberal Zionists primary goal is preventing Israel from facing consequences for its behavior through trade embargoes and sanctions. Whatever they can do to soften the blow now that the bottom has dropped out of public opinion. Ro Khanna is 49 and the genocide has been going on for almost three years. Watch his interview with Jeremy Scahill and tell me that it's acceptable for American pols to say that Palestinians don't have a right to armed resistance but Israel has the right to bomb them. Stop making excuses. Think. Don't wind up another useful idiot for these people. EDIT: Final note, when you start a sentence with "like," it makes you sound like a child.

Klemke

I feel (and do) the same. I tried to get my parents to donate to Palestine but my dad is too scared to. When Charlie Kirk got wasted he asked me to keep my mouth shut on social media because it might "come back on other people in the family." I increasingly see him as a coward and a Good German and I don't know how to express that to him in a healthy or productive way. This past couple years have been very illuminating. Never Again is now, and most westerners are content to ignore it. We are damned as a people, and we will be judged, by the people we know in life, by the rest of the world, and by history. I'll keep sending money as long as I'm able to.

Justin Kase

He was only shocked because it happened to him. "But its me" Im American.

Klemke

Scott is right. What you see in that Drop Site interview is the liberal Zionist playbook going forward. At least Scahill got his ass. Probably no hope for anyone whose takeaway from that interview is to sniff about "petulance".

Klemke

Well-put.

Jake Larsen

I'm an adult, so I don't have thoughts or fantasies like this much anymore. But hearing accounts like these really do make me imagine what kind of shit I would get up to IMMEDIATELY if I woke up with Homelander powers. This is so grim and infuriating to listen to.

Richard Fitzgerald

i didnt hear him say that. i heard scahill accuse him of that

Elias R. Hansen

When the inevitable backlash occurs and all these zionists are rounded up and taken to a dark place where people go but never come out of, nobody will mourn or feel sympathy for them

Nissan Al Gaib

Brutal episode. May Israelis around the world never have peace.

Aaron Friedland

The genocide has been going on since the founding of Israel

Tim Mullen

The sgt spears allegory worked so well Felix still has his heater

Harry

great guest, great ep

Bi War Criminal

I think it’s fine for people to learn more and turn against Israel, because Zionism is genocidal. You are out of your gourd if you think most ppl were aware of Israel’s actions until Oct 7 (there is a Zionist media establishment that prevented that knowledge from getting out, after all). It was a watershed moment, and was part of Hamas strategy to gain global attention. So you, like, don’t know what you’re talking about at all and are posturing and petulant. and I agree AOCIA has done a lot to dampen leftist energy rather than support it, and you always run the risk of cooptation with anything. But ppl holding office can’t say certain things. The same was true for Lincoln. He was anti slavery, not an abolitionist, bc abolitionism was the militant wing. All I’m saying is I think people are too cynical about Ro Khanna, and I appreciate he is willing to take tough interviews. You can spout off about whatever the fuck you want but you aren’t doing anything. You aren’t as smart or moral as you think you are. You’re in chapo comments. Edit: starting a sentence with “saying anti Zionism is bad is almost as off putting as liberal Zionism” makes you sound like a child.

Bi War Criminal

Yup, and there’s been a Zionist establishment media apparatus hellbent on making sure that information did not circulate and was not well known.

Conner

Fuck I love it when Felix makes clear that Israel needs to be militarily defeated and dismantled

Jordan

In fairness, there hasn't been much "fun" news in a while. I kind of wish the US were some backwater balkanized shithole so our insane reactionary politics could just be a funny sideshow rather than having massive, life-changing reverberations throughout much of the world.

Peen Israel

Jesus this is heartbreaking. I’m glad to have listened though.

Amanda Nelson

Incredibly difficult listen but thankful for Jasper’s reporting. Power and solidarity to Palestinian resistance ❤️💚🖤🤍

Jordan

Even the most cursory research into the opinions/mindset on the ground in Israel makes it abundantly clear that the ONLY way to make these people stop killing is total disarmament and occupation by an outside force to de-nazify these freaks for at least a couple generations until the ethnonationalist tendency dies.

Amer Naik

It’s amazing that right leaning dems can still defend Israel

Kristy Noem's Crusty Dome

Shapiro will run in 2028 and he will be shoved down everyone's throats as the only "realistic" option. This is the episode to bookmark to remind yourself why he's complete non starter. It feels easy to say now but their psychic warfare is relentless and effective and people are suddenly swayed by it when they use the best of two bad options cudgel every four years.

Drew McGill

Hearing Jasper lay down the straight cold fact of what it would take for the liberal Zionists to get their way would mean war with Israel and that’s obviously never going to happen that’s the absolute end of that position to be held by a single liberal/progressive moving forward. Everyone needs to start using that logic towards these people when it’s brought up in any venue. We also need to start treating J-Street like we do AIPAC.

Sexual Harry Potter

It’s just difficult to comprehend how anyone could even just know about this stuff and not feel shock and deep moral revulsion or rage. How much programming does it take for them to not only be immune to that but think it is a positive? Even some of the most extreme horrors of history like unit 731 are usually explained by “dehumanization” but Israelis seem to take particular enjoyment in the fact that they are inflicting excruciating torture and terror by exploiting the same emotions they feel towards their own loved ones. It’s beyond sickening.

etienne

imagine if a US congresscritter went to visit Ukraine and got ransacked by a roaming Azov thugs lmao the whole country could be turned into a radioactive glass table within hours

Zachary Sloan

Israel is basically like if someone deliberately did an experiment to create the worst human beings to ever exist. Like they specifically created an ideology and set of conditions tailored to create a people devoid of anything of value.

Chicken_Man_

All hail Jasper. What a great guy and great follow up ep. Hail the greats!! Chapo forever!

Zachary Sloan

This guy is a sitting member of Congress who has voted in ways beneficial to Israel. What does it matter if people hold (correct) opinions about him? It's not my responsibility to coddle this guy who holds more power that I'll see in my entire life. People like you are the ones who come off as insecure here. Why does it bother you so much when people dislike these politicians?

Zachary Sloan

I mean realistically it wouldn't, since Ukraine is important to the US government in the proxy war with Russia (and they also ideologically agree with Azov and Ukrainian nationalists in general).

Zachary Sloan

It's the logical conclusion of Khanna's views.

etienne

Japan is a good example, they aren't allowed to have a real army and they had to invent Anime to whitewash their international reputation lol

Mikey

Why do you want to fuck Ritchie Torres?

William

Great episode

Matthew Black

By the way, I don’t know if Bible Chapo is going to become a regular thing, but if it does you have to have somebody on to discuss Jordan Peterson’s post-Benzo coma sequence of Bible interpretations including (I am not kidding) the claim that Judas’s sin was ‘toxic empathy.’

Jessica Rios

Does anyone know if Matt still gets Chapo money? If he doesn’t, I’m out. I just can’t do this without Matt.

Eli 🇵🇸

Organizing, meditation, and deep love and obligation to the people in my life - all hand in hand - are the only things that make me feel like a human being anymore. Unspeakable grief and horror can lead you one of two ways - paralysis or a commitment to action, even when you can only see one step ahead at a time. I hope that helps.

dog on the roof

I won't even tip if I think my server is trying to kill me

Mojtaba HUSAYNI Khamenei

You didn't hear him say that because you didn't want to. It's clear as day to anyone who has learned anything about liberal zionist "non-violence" bullshit in the last three years or otherwise.

Austin Dunham

Did you not listen to Armie Hammer movie review?

Ermete

In the meantime in Ulm, Germany a 77 years old guy had to appear in front of the judge because he was wearing a T-shirt with a "pro Hamas slogan" (it was just from the river to the sea...)

NewTooshFatoosh

I definitely need to listen to this one in smaller doses. My heart breaks for the Palestinians.

Neuradink

Sorry, I can’t listen to this. It’s too painful.

hey_boo

Well said. Organizing within the community has been one of the few things that I’ve been able to throw myself into. I appreciate your wisdom ✌️

Cbo

Jeremy Scahill>>>

NitroDickclapp III

I don't need to be a recovering junkie to know that Ro Khanna isn't to be trusted. He's a room reader and a snake. I don't like this idea that Palestinians need to rely on ppl like him to improve their lives. That should be all our jobs as decent, caring ppl, it shouldn't come down to singular politicians or a single political party, it shouldn't come down to obviously untrustworthy ppl like Ro Khanna. Really fcking dogsht that ppl like him are seen as anything but the barest minimum, that in some meaningful ways the future of Palestinian ppl may lay in his hands and the hands of ppl like him.

NYCM&AHole

The great irony is they dehumanize themselves in the process because all I see are monsters.

Rocky

Can someone explain Will’s “Can’t read Dostoevsky on the train” remark? Thanks!

James Wallace

And yet do we not enable them to do what they do? Are we not equally culpable?

Kristy Noem's Crusty Dome

He almost certainly does. The name, brand and IP were built by Matt. I'm sure they compensate him for the show's continued success, which would not be what it is without him. Which is also to say I think they probably are still paying one Virgin Texas too

D.O.D

*Felix 8 mins into a 12 min question* : "Derogotype"

etienne

when Russia started the war everything remotely related to russia was shunned and cancelled including stage plays from authors from centuries ago and you'd get dirty looks reading Russian anything as if you were supporting the war with it

Rocky

Ahhh gotcha. Thank you!

Lee

Ha ha

The Lord Thy God

Including the civilians? Uncomfortable point, sorry, but …

christian

bloodthirsty ghouls

NYCM&AHole

Uhhhhh you mean the civilians blocking aide trucks? The civilians saying we need to kill all the Arabs?

Blinky

The "civilians" who do their time in the IOF.

etienne

real heads remember the Kiev Mule

Lam

I don’t think it’s dehumanizing to say that people who weren’t raised in settler states don’t hate others purely based on where they’re from (1:05:00ish). Ethnostate projects educate their children from birth that the national project is inherently good, and so all it’s efforts abroad are good by default. This inculcates a broad perception in people socialized within the state that the people our nation commits violence against are evil by nature, so we end up hating them for where they’re from. People who were not raised in an ethnostate but instead were raised within a culture might instead choose to believe that good people can be found everywhere, regardless of creed, nationality or ethnicity. Blind hatred based on where you’re from seems like a settler ideology to me

Hall wingfield

I mean Superman had a scene where they murder a guy who is obviously a proxy of Bibi

Eamon Short

Funny joke, but from day 1 thr US government / NATO whitewashed Japan's reputation for them, so the west wouldn't have issues with working so closely with Japan as their launch pad for covert and direct military operations in East Asia for the next 70 years

Eamon Short

Despite the surrounding context, that character seemed more of a Balkan warcrime leader analogue to me

Hall wingfield

It came off as a pretty obvious Israel-Palestine analog

MadamAjab

Holy fuck, Mukhmas mentioned 🥺. These are literally some of DJ Khaleds family members (like cousins) for the record. My sis in law/bestie is one of the Palestinian-American families who has spent their lives living back and forth between Florida, Philadelphia, and Mukhmas. My first husband was from Tulkaren and used to joke that they were soft because they were one of the safer areas of the WB. They still had IDF soldiers tormenting people so "soft" was very very relative to in-Palestinian crowd lol but it was definitely seen as a safer area of the WB by the people who grew up there.