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We get to some news that we didn’t get to on Thursday, such as Iran_Ceasefire_FINAL_FINAL.pdf, right-wing influencers pivoting to OnlyFans, and the cold case of Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapping. We also respond to some listener suggestions about how to deal with a vulture problem before a lightning round of dystopian stories about AI and dating.

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Jakupe

Early slop?

Sam Bondurant

Looking fwd to some #cootermaxxing talk

Evan Paine

DOUBLE KATHERINE LFG!!!

Reece Coren

Back to back like she’s Jordan 96, 97🔥

Talcum Gladwell

Immediately thrilled we’re still discussing the vulture situation

Reece Coren

The real abundance agenda

tanmantincan

Episode: Dowloaded ✅ White ass: Sat ✅ Snout: Descended ✅

JD Nonce

Can’t escape google sheets

Syndrome of a Downs

Felix begins telepathically communicating with us all at 0:01

Alex B

TWO KATHERINE EPS??? 😀😀😀

N0tagayman

For the last fucking time, I am NOT gay.

Evan Pitkin

At least they aren't geese.

Joe Quigley

Any mention of Amber Frost's legal issues? Fingers crossed that she's okay

Tristan Clark

Early post on the day I leave my headphones at home. Gift of the Magi frfr

dawood

katherine supremacy

Elai Kehler

full chapo girlfriend broadside

Jacob Caldwell

Next episode titled Buzzard something

Mike Power

Fetterman is the musical guest for November?

AB

BACK2BACKKATH

Noah

Girlfriendmaxxing

Twerk dancer

Before listening, pick your team: OnlyFans influencers, AI dating, the kidnapping case, or the vulture problem? No cheating 😂

Noah

Let's have Kath + Western Mass and New Haven pizza content on every ep pls

Dylan J

What happened I can’t find anything on google about her recently

JDF

KATH KONTENT KONTINUES !! ✨🫶🏻

John Mertes

Look out Jan and Wayne Skyler - there’s a new Married* News Team in town

Frank

Hesse said she is playing Elden Ring rn for a new podcast series, must be players club fromsoft series

ploob

New "Liberal driller" just dropped

ploob

Girlfriend Finals week!

T

Anybody know the name of the Mongolian mining documentary?

J Wick

Not to sound like a gigantic loser but I wish I had what Will and Kath have

TSL

not even trying to be mean or jokey, is Felix okay? he seems kinda Brain-foggy lately? Wishing him the best regardless

Swimaroo

It's about damn time we got some Gambo adjacent podslop

ChigBungus

I hope they discuss Spielberg’s revolting convo with George Lucas about how young the underage love interest for Indiana Jones should be.

Cassie

It’s much harder to date organically now - dates are generally with someone you have no emotional attachment to. If a person was going out with someone they had an initial spark with for the first time I highly doubt they’d expect their date to order them a car.

Tim O'

I wonder if that one guy in the comments is absolutely fuming that they still haven't talked about the defense bill.

Dank Widow

Sending Katherine love from Wisconsin

Noah

Sad when they go like that

Jerimiah

Turkey Vultures have a red head. Sounds like you have Black Vultures.

Phil Barksdale

Instead of the Trojan Horse idea (played out), I suggest we offer Iran some new Dior dresses. They're in the shop on the corner. Right there, right on the corner...

A Kayyy

no Felix references for 2 episodes 😍

Declan Kennedy

the Sam Altman podcast thing is even stupider once you think it through than it sounds on face value, he's saying that this podcast he listens to will be hooked up to his personal calendar but it doesn't actually know the outcome of the kid's soccer game or other event so it's going to do what? hallucinate a match report for him?

Markus Kraköwski

honestly can Kathy just fire those other 2 guys already

birdguy123457

Bird enthusiast here, any birds that soar are federally protected, so black or not, if its a vulture, its protected, non lethal options only

Ertt

The vulture segment is the most racist Will has ever sounded

Alex

Make them a permanent host!

Corey Reynolds

How are Will Hesse going to do Spielberg but not do Munich or Saving Private Ryan? I remember years ago, Amber Frost(maybe Matt too?) saying that Saving Private Ryan is fascists. I’m pretty sure I knew what she meant but I’d like to hear that idea explained by the Chapo’s.

Alex C

We love the adventures of Girlfriend and Girlfriend Guy

Jason Glickman

Innovative outside the box idea to punish Iran - one million flaming bags of dogshit along their borders.

ChigBungus

When Will mentioned the wedding breakout sessions my hands curled into fists on instinct

Kinetics Video

Is he also telling you that your video game and TV opinions are his favorite?

Jeremy Hawkins

If Katherine was on every episode I would love it. Great presence

Bryan Williams

Pete Hegseth's hate for himself is only matched by his contempt for our military -- from the overweight generals with unstylish facial hair who don't clap to the former Cinnabon employee crashouts who stumbled into the recruitment center in the mall, and now faint one-tenth of the way into the army fitness test. He must be itching to send them all to their deaths in an 2027 Iranian version of Pickett's Charge a couple of months after the midterms, if a single person puts that in the suggestion box.

P A

So, it was recently reported that the "AI breaking containment story" was entirely human error

super criminal

This is getting depressing you need to have at least three hosts

NYCM&AHole

I like the beginning of terminator genisys where San Francisco gets nuked. I’m so glad I got out before these twerps took over the place.

Andy Kraushaar

Felix began speaking in my mind at 4:20. He told me I must be God's swift sword of vengeance against the infidels. He also told me to send him dick pics or he'd be sad.

Des Mosome

The animal theme for the last two episode titles reminded me of the zoo visit. It was a whimsical time.

Kitty

normally I’m disappointed to see a sans-Felix ep but not if it’s KATHERINE!! 😍

Joe D’grinda

Is it acceptably messy and “character building” to help a women cheat on her boyfriend after he cheated as well ? asking for a friend

Aaron Friedland

That pier off Gaza was never for aid that was just cover for the real purpose, the one they actually used it for: Israeli P.O.W. and hostage extraction operations.

Ant koz

The formula always called for some Wisconsin on the mic… I’ve got an idea!!

Blank

Quorators shoutout! 🥰

Matelda

If the head is red, it eats the dead. If the head is black, it might attack.

dfumps

The people demand Krueger

Flubho

Hell yeah Kath time! I hope Fe-fe is okay. I live in the greater Seattle area and dating is so abysmal that I’ve decided I’m just never doing it again. I’m 43 and I’m okay with being single for the rest of my life. It sure beats what’s out there.

Brett

Literally manifested the Players Club announcement by redownloading the MGS season right before listening to today’s episode

Adam

This is just sport analytics for your life. Dumb as f

SD

The vultures were promised that barn 3000 years ago.

Joseph

This episode is basically Plato's Phaedrus

BryceSprungstein

Love Kath ep,but I really wish Felix was here for the story about the military crowd sourcing 'ideas'

Chris

She kidnapped a lady and forgot where she left her

Aaaaaaaaaaa

The Missouri caller reminded me of a guy my friend encountered while living in Buttfuck Nowhere, South Dakota. He had a mobile pirate radio station that he loaded on the back of his truck. He would broadcast live audio of himself shooting prairie dogs while declaring that the recent ban on doing so (it only applied to certain national parks/tribal areas) wasn’t going to stop him, and that if the government DID want to stop him they’d have to find him.

Mikey

Kash didn’t even try to blame the Guthrie kidnapping on an innocent trans person. They really never gave a shit about that case.

PrinceVocalFry

Damn, I love my Marxist humanist king, Will Menacker

gnest

kath nation 🔥🔥🔥

Travis

Felix begins spea… fuck.

Grant

I’m not a paid subscriber yet but I’d pay to hear Will and Katherine discuss those listener-solicited non-AI dating hacks.

Albert Flores

What’s the piano interlude from? Barry Lyndon?

Kelley

I think it's cute how neither of them can finish a full sentence. They're both so excited to talk

Kelley

Aka getting married

Keith

If you want to get rid of vultures, dispose of your cadavers on your neighbors property at night.

Joe

Pretty sure nothing said about the library of alexandria in this episode is even remotely correct

Kelley

The spreadsheet dating piece is violence against accountants

katie

more kath more kath more kath!!!!

Shane-A112

"something something actually clever, family annihilation something something"

Robert Karnick

Trump trying and failing to end the Iran war has the same energy as Tim Heidecker trying and failing to end On Cinema

Alec

Russell Simmons is promoting Zionism because he wants to utilize the right of return.

Nick A

I remember decades ago when a somethingawful goon was ‘spreadsheet dating’ by tracking how often his wife gave him a blowjob. SA ahead of the curve as always.

That Guy

Love the idea of LLM optimizing dating like Moneyball. Just everyone aiming for a goodnight kiss and moving on because they "get on base" and the only ones maximizing HRs are spending a ton of money in Asia

Erik Bourre

THE KRIEGERREICH HAS BEGUN - RISE UP KATHEADS

Nick A

Pretty sure Felix and Friedland previously theorized that Dershowitz only exists to increase antisemitism during the cumtown Fivish bit. It makes sense, zionists need the diaspora to flee their countries and give their lives for the lebensraum of Greater Israel. Eventually no one else will.

Twerk dancer

What’s crazier: dating an AI or people who talk politics joining OnlyFans? 😂

shoobertdoobert

Have y'all seen rent prices and what jobs are paying? It's amazing young people have time to shit much less date. Fucking miserable. Every day I'm faced with the choice: have a roof over your head or have a social life. I'm ready to blow my shit smoove off.

Sexual Harry Potter

What are you talking about? I wasted so much time trying to figure that out there’s nothing about any such thing online

Jake Zydek

Can't wait for Felix's in-depth Kingdom Hearts retrospective

Wrought

The us military would build a Trojan horse and fill it with 2000 troops but forget to drill air holes in it

Borice 19

I've been listening to your back catalog and there's barely any slurs. Kinda disappointing.

Laaren

Honestly a lovely episode.

Jeemar

katherine is to chapo what the chris kuroda is to phish. she is fundamentally part of the music

Philip Malcolm

Manual dating story: I went on a second date with a nice Venezuelan lady I met through work earlier this year. We went to a very nice, small pizza place where conversation turned to politics... I expressed critical support for the Bolivar movement and mockingly referred to the weapons charges against the recently arrested Maduro. Anyway, when she sat down again ten minutes later, in tears, having yelled at me about the iniquities of Chavez and his followers and silencing the whole restaurant we had a perfectly nice time. We're moving in together at the end of the year.

raznl

Their core values are 'never compromise on anything, or let go of any control' – which ya, if a partner has a value like 'I don't want my partner to be a boss for my bed' ... that's pretty incompatible.

Shiv

Born San Franciscan here, you’re both welcome to return post-P*rge. We’ve obviously got a lot to figure out. Also LOL at these goons recording everyone in a 2-party consent state. I wish I could sue but I’m never around these ppl

Shiv

My in my Don Draper costume when a man wants sex in exchange for a $200 dinner: THAT’S WHAT THE FOOD IS FOR!

THEKILLERWHALE

I think you guys made a great point about humanity dumbing themselves down before AI came around and therefore to make ourselves replaceable. I have just returned to academia after about ten years and I am pretty shocked by how stupid and small scale pretty much every academic paper is. No new ideas, no advancements, no work. No wonder a chatbot can actually simulate what should be the frontiers of human thought. Music has experienced a full 2-3 decades of diminishing collaboration and deemphasizing hard-won skills (playing instruments communally). Pop music is made by committees of hired guns. Taylor Swift is taken seriously as music so no wonder an algorithm can make music now. Journalism has been replaced by short, punchy non-articles that were slop before slop was invented. Business is just management hot air and bullshit that produces no productivity. Managers have found their one true love in AI as it facilitates and nurtures their love of flashy bullshit. I could go on. But we turned ourselves into slop before slop was even invented.

Aria

we are owed a solo felix episode in exchange for these past two

Neuradink

Hell yeah, can’t wait

Adam Foster

I don’t have any ideas to get rid of the vultures BUT I’m currently facing a similar type of issue where I made the mistake of feeding a personable cockatoo once (I live in Australia) and now every afternoon 3-15 cockatoos show up pretending to be the one cockatoo that I like. This happened because I own chickens and they originally showed up to steal chicken feed before I found the nice one. I can tell which one is the good cockatoo because of a small scar on his eyelid and polite behaviour, however cockatoos are incredibly smart and have reverse engineered how to behave in the same polite way as the nice cockatoo in order to extract sunflower seeds under false pretences from me. Obviously anyone with knowledge on the situation would say “just stop feeding any cockatoos you shouldn’t have fed the first one” but now I’ve got a relationship with the nice cockatoo that’s kind of special and I don’t really want to throw it away. Cockatoos are just so smart that you get to know their little personalities and mannerisms, they also like to have fun and dance around! One time during the rain most of the cockatoos that came by were sheltering under the deck roof, but there was one weirdo out in the rain swinging upside down from a branch having the time of his life, like they have the capacity for joy which is very endearing in my opinion.

Tom

Sir there’s a second Senior Girlfriend Correspondent ep

Sonclaurey

What a bleak episode

Ant koz

My partner and I bought a new tv finally, came with Samsung tv a kind of built in cable feature… has a channel that shows 24 hours of law and order, the og seasons. I’ve seen ci and svu, she’s never watched the show at all… but these original seasons really hold up well. There’s something comforting about deciding not to choose and to let the law/order channel roll… she loves it too which makes me very happy

Brent

29:16 – Will channeling Columbo

AJ

No. one: I can understand why you would want to heed the advice of so-called experts regarding the vultures, but here’s what I’m sayin’: Big Cats. Think about introducing some native (or exotic!) predators to your mom’s place. They do the dirty work; your paws are clean.

AJ

No. 2: While we all applaud the Left’s headlong disavowal of defund discourse, I’m surprised that responsible commentators haven’t had the courage to say one essential word: Reparations! That’s right, reparations to police everywhere for the damage and trauma caused by all that talk of reducing their budgets, which is by no means limited to the psyche. Imagine the anticipatory belt-tightening that a fear of scarcity can cause, to name one real-world example of harm.

Edward

Chonks, chonks chonks

Robert Armstrong

Real tragedy was the library at Baghdad that the Mongols torched - west could done been having hygiene and surgery.

Nicholas

Schubert Opus 90 #1 mentioned!? Is that the theme song for a relevant tv show or is Chris just on a classical piano vibe?

bruce

movie mindset just started recording this year? We are going to be hearing about horror movies until January at this rate.

Andrew Watson

The spreadsheet dating section was incredibly validating. I hold people that try to involve corporate work into their real personality in enormous contempt. Any time I see one of those videos where a group of friends does a PowerPoint night where they explain their jobs to each other I die a little inside.

bob dylan

We've got a vulture problem, folks

Russell Sugden

Re Dating. In the 750s AD Anglo Saxon chroniclers recorded that Anglo Saxon women were willingly pairing up with Viking newcomers. The reason? Was it pagan magic? Was it the promise of riches? Was it their 6ft height? No it was because Vikings unlike the Anglo Saxons bathed once a week as apposed to once a year. They bathed, combed their hair, oiled their beards with perfumes and wore clean clothes regularly. They’d inadvertently unlocked the gates of Pound Town figuratively and literally by having the slightest modicum of game over the locals. Similarly as an Englishman visiting the US, one can not help but be struck by the woeful, embarrassing, hick-like level of sophistication on display from American men. Watching a young man attempt to impress his date by burping the Star Spangled Banner, I knew what it must have felt like to be the first man to bring the first bottle of whiskey to Scotland or the first opium to China. I may have been a washed up dating failure who could barely compose a sonnet to his intended back home, but here I was the only straight man in 500miles who knew any sonnets, or had been to the theatre, or owned a pair of dress shoes. So for my fellow Brits reading this in a drought I say “Go West young man, Go West”

Alex “WORLDWIDE” Kellar

If you want a lil slice of dating hell, here: my most recent ex knew a couples therapist who had never been in a relationship. Like a vegan working at a steakhouse. Close the schools

Doug Cartel

"the spirit of the old West" is a group of white dudes murdering Mexicans on the border and getting away with it so that sounds pretty crappy

Leonora Calzogna

not a fan of the bioessentialism but oh well...

Here, Try This

No foreign films? No black and white? Bullshit!

Doug Cartel

Do we know if the FBI has set up a fake hostage under a cardboard box propped up by a stick? I hear that works

Tim O'

They're gonna do the Putting On the Ritz scene from Young Frankenstein with him

Doug Cartel

"those stupid little toddlers babbled at each other in their primitive language, and my AI used their mouth sounds to form a matrix for sorting their Legos according to size and color. Isn't AI great? Anyways this stuff will destroy us all so give us your money for data centers"

Doug Cartel

Der Leben Des Anders 2 but it's all discord chat logs

Blank

“Breakout sessions at a wedding” makes me wanna vom

Dick Waglin

They're bussing in the vultures

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Learning absolutely nothing about my kids as my AI generated podcast about thm hallucinates a bunch of bullshit that didn't happen.

Keenan Fitzgerald

The FBI crime scene bungle sounds like another day in the life of Felix’s detective character.

Keenan Fitzgerald

Actually I really need a reenactment of this Guthrie case with the Chapo Victims Unit please, I need to see how those top tier investigators would crack this case wide open.

ST Promotion

Do they talk over each other like this at home all day?

king_von_diesel

Will, goddamn, Kath must have really liked you. Jesus christ

Mungo Franczak

I’ve been listening to too much We’re Not So Different pod cause why do Kath and Eleanor sound like sisters…

Woke Batou

5 hour episodes let's goooooo

BureaucracyNow

Silicon Valley is high on its own supply

AbsenteeUncle

Soon Kath is going to bring a PISS line to Chapo

Malcolm Ragan

I think there’s this holdover aversion to be set up with someone’s friend for a date. It was often written as a pathetic, last ditch thing in TV when I was a kid. I was set up with my wife by a mutual friend and it made dating her great. It’s so much easier to establish trust when someone is already accepted by others you trust. Set up your single friends.

Zack Burke

To the men out there dating: if you ask women questions, and let them tell you about themselves- then you ask follow-up questions- there is an above 50% chance they will have sex with you. The bar for Women's options is so low that just holding a conversation is a great start. Bonus points if you can watch a Bravo TV show and have hot takes about the sleeze on those shows. That's it. Its not that hard. Treat women well.

Joshua Ruiz

We must become as the Sun, giving freely without expectation of reward

Clean Shirt Piggie

Have you considered merging your new show with the Blowback podcast and calling it Blow Chunks?

Jon_dog

The dating discussion is too real. When I was dating a few years ago a lot of those issues were already prevalent and it was really disheartening how little effort most people would put in, like I'm left sitting there just talking to a series of judgemental walls. I felt insane that no one else was seeing how commodified and capitalist it all was. Every discussion I came across just treated it as like "well men are bad, so it's good if the apps are predatory/shit for me", or it was just manosphere/"seduction" shit.

A Gee Cook

As our economy becomes like the gilded age’s so does our courtship customs. Gotta demonstrate wealth if everyone is rich and poor

Sam

There are studies that bear out what Katherine says about how Google/computers allow us to outsource our memories. There’s a handful of words I’ve given up remembering how to spell because I know spellcheck is there. Also I’m pretty sure the S and C in “license” switch places every time I write it

C. Andrew

Place your bets! Will Felix be talking about Ace Combat lore or Halo lore?

CR

Both the Kath eps have been heaters, great stuff

Christopher Stagg

You probably recorded this just too late to mention it, but there was an ad they ran in the theater right before the Spiderman movie which featured a single mother and a kid using an AI as a replacement father figure, like it was giving the kid fatherly advice and stuff and enriching their souls. We were laughing about it later, "Son, you're talking crazy, I don't know where you get all this nonsense, your OpenAI father did NOT raise you to be like this!"

Coleman

I'd happily be a utility player with a long career that consistently eats pussy

T3356

Incredible girlfriend discourse, always love a Kath episode!

Sean Riach

Per the discussion about the reduction of all human interaction to capital accumulation...Just read a very good novel called The Employee by Olga Ravn

C. Andrew

That last article read had me yelling at clouds. Psychological armoring, but through technology. People refusing to heal or learn themselves, unable to be comfortable as themselves, not in the suit of armor you use to present and protect yourself. These people really are cyborgs, they embrace, wear, and integrate technology into, and in place of, their humanity.

Tommy U

fwiw all of the ai/corporate dating stuff is coming from people who are trying to premote a business. i’m not saying versions of this doesn’t exist but this strikes me as all marketing

James Huston-Waters

My wife thinks this show is less misogynistic the more Kathrine is on, more of her, please!

Farah

Onwards, Vultures! We wish for a powerful avian wave to come crashing through the barn doors of this podcaster world

Milo

Knowing will has the same autism I do is really nice… I feel seen.

Milo

Rare double comment: I had a raccoon in my attic. The wild life guy who came to “evict her” told me there were two methods: the “Guantanamo method” and male urine method. For those curious the Guantanamo method involves a strobe light and metal music.

Reece Coren

Felix has been compromised to a permanent end and replaced with Kath for being mean to Will about leaving cigarettes at the Bob Dylan memorial

Reece Coren

Volunteering myself as tribute to kill the giant death mongering birds and take the punishment just to one up the guy who bought them breakfast as the most loyal grey wolf

Michael Rosen

Shout-out to walleye, best fish in Michigan and Wisconsin

DB Parenti

Feeling so validated by the dating talk in this episode. Being an adult college student and having a working class job was seemingly a deal breaker for 90% of women online.

Reece Coren

just watched the t-bone seinfeld episode last night. great reference, Will

drizzly_november

Calling it fascist is dumb, it’s a war movie for the neoliberal 90s. It’s a celebration of the individual, the whole unit dies for just one guy who, the final scene at the cemetery tells us, has lived to “earned this”. It’s a ludicrously ahistorical take on WWII which was on all fronts a global meatgrinder that consumed individuals and individuality into collective effort. Compare that to 12 O’Clock High, made shortly after the war, in which the air war demands unrelenting sacrifice for the sake of the collective.

John Swan

Katherine Week 2026

angel

Kathheads, we have been fed this week! Thank you, father Will

nick

Felix is still MIA at that wedding because the breakout sessions went long.

SHD

I’m not religious but these mfers need Jesus fr

Max

But what if you were hurled into a time warp and came face to face with the ancient Greeks. The Greeks invented trigonometry. They did autopsies and dissections. What could you tell an ancient Greek that he couldn’t say, ‘Big Deal.’ Could you tell him about the atom? Atom is a Greek word. The Greeks knew that the major events in the universe can’t be seen by the eye of man. It’s waves, it’s rays, it’s particles.

TLT

Bonechilling episode, ❤️ the bird helpers tho

Mikey

Remaking the Aella came in fluffer chart from base principles but for going on a handful of okay dates is beast mode

Reece Coren

bounty law staring jake cahill: now in the desert

Reece Coren

This Chapo episode’s dedicated to our boy, Caleb. Hope you’re enjoying the M&M store, buddy!

Isaac Bartlett

I just wanted to say that Kath is right getting hurt is a part of dating. I recently at 25 meet the most amazing woman she was perfect in every way I’ve genuinely never had conversations this good with anyone. All this to say it didn’t amount to anything more than a fling and that’s ok like it hurt a lot but it was worth it. I remember one night she said “I’m kinda scared of the feeling I’m developing” she had been hurt by men in the past and wasn’t ready yet. Sadly we don’t talk anymore it was hard to move on i keep telling myself it would have been better if nothing had happened. But that’s not true heart break is a part of love. If I had run from my emotions sure i probably would have cried less but i would have wondered for the rest of my life if she was the one. This is key to the human experience and love

Kinetics Video

Quietly backing into Prairie Home Companion now that the millennial socialist thing flopped. This is game

Kinetics Video

Costs $4 trillion a pop because they get one plank sawed in every US County

Kinetics Video

We should have known about Chomsky from his love of answering emails.

CBCB

Vultures?

Special Adeline

Deskilling is old hat, the era of desocializing begins

Reece Coren

Dating apps are useless. I will find love in the Chapo Patreon comment section.

Special Adeline

One has to wonder why the woman who AI records all her first dates doesn’t mention any second dates she’s recording

UNDED

Oml please tell me Felix will once and for all finally have the context for bringing up Kingdom Hearts every blue moon.

Riley Bloomer-Ludwig

Who was the sexy director Will was talking about towards the end ?

Warbs

I've been out of the dating world fo decades but regarding the person that was mullin over that 3rd or 4th date... isn't thst something you can talk to your close firend about? Oh...

🫶🏽

yes, we love camel toe 😔🫶🏽

Dale Gribble

I think I speak for everyone whether they want me to or agree with me, when I say we demand more Kath

Kendall

Seeking a G-I-R-L-F-R-E-N for the end of the world

Evan Pitkin

Props to Kath for chiding Will on his "nuclear" pronunciation. Being such an O.G. Bush hater I don't know how he can go on saying it that way.

Aaron Sutherland

As someone who defends criminal cases, this level of police incompetence does not shock me.

Reece Coren

PLEASE do a worst hinge dates call in show with you two and seeking derangements

Chris Hildreth

I wish so badly there was a bunch of vultures around my place. You should be so lucky. You’re both prime birding age too. This is unbelievable. They’re gods.

Chapo Bath House

The local dump has hawks who work for the city to scare seagulls away. It's really cool. They also use them at airports, ports, and a waterfront tourist area that is notorious for aggressive birds

Eamon Short

Yo, anyone watched CHUNKS? Is it worth it?

Eamon Short

Will and Katherine are Vulture NIMBYs

Richard Cochnar

I’m some what of a KIMBY myself, fellow abundance bro.

Olenna

Queen Kath. Thank you

parker

I would be shocked if this was error lol. Sam Altman has been trying to convince investors that hes created general intelligence for years. He does this every year its just this time hes insanely desperate and investors arent responding to his calls with glee and excitement anymore they just ask for returns

Golgoteph

Can you and Katherine stop talking over each other?

David Hofberg

I prefer the term “vulture of color”

Jimmy McMillan

I believe the battle between the sexes is a divide and conquer strategy. It's not as cool to talk shit about other people's race and religion. Instead, the ruling class pumps out content about how much a dude should pay for a date and which generation sucks more

Braden Maccke

I hope you find it, and that you do not pollute an established podcast with it.

Braden Maccke

...or where to find the Uber Black post they're on about?

Skippy

Gregg Araki

Wilko

I was born in East Germany and I find it ridiculous, how often that country, flawed as it was, always has to serve as a punching bag. You can debate, whether or not the paranoia about western infiltration & anti-communist agitation was justified or not, but capitalism lost its moral high ground on this topic - if it ever had one - when it established its surveillance state post 9-11. Honestly... And when you consider what WE had: practically no unemployment or unhoused people, free education & health care, a community etc. YOU have all the downsides of capitalism PLUS all the bad stuff ppl like to accuse socialist states of: authoritarianism, surveillance & pollution. P.S.: "a resounding yes!" is not a valid answer to the question "to record or not record?"

Occhio

is it a bit or do they not know the difference between a turkey vulture and a black vulture?

Justin Stanley

Kath is a great guest and maybe should be the permanent third (lol) but holy fuck the crosstalk

Felix Engels

i don't believe there's any unbridgeable gap between men and women i think a lot of people are just driven insane by constantly being told that

Felix Engels

love the katherine double feature and happy to hear that you discovered they were black vultures... i suspected that was the case based on their behaviors. really cool birds!

Occhio

the vm uber black thing — at some point straight people must come to terms with the fact that their sexual attraction is predicated on group-based difference, and that each side clearly has a deep abiding libidinal attachment to their position in the binary. It’s crude and depressing, but it is just so. This is the Levi-Strauss structural binary at the heart of heterosexual romance. Wishing it away will avail us nothing. In fact, the disavowal tends to create monstrous illusions, big stupid lies, and third-order projections that break containment and terrorize the rest of society. The injunction against recognition of this truth has become a moral panic machine. Straight people really do need to just embrace a model of promiscuity that gay people practice with neither fuss nor fanfare. I’m not talking about polyamory. I’m talking about sleeping around. Open relationships, not poly pods. Will’s suggestion of getting the pro is not bad, but it should also be possible to get all this done without resorting to commerce. It requires the recognition that sexual attraction is fully contingent and not sutured in the natural world. Once that recognition is made, it becomes possible to transpose the dynamics of sex from the given reality of the universe onto the sexual play of actually consenting grownups. These persistent, boring heterosexual problems will vanish only when you behave as adults — adults who have long since put aside childish things like white wedding Disney princess larping, big shot big dick heroics, & medieval monarchical monogamist fantasies. Even in the actual late Middle Ages, chivalric romances were already silly clichés. To be clear, you can still enjoy all of these things, but keep it in the fucking bedroom and not in the restaurant and the Uber and the society at large. These are your goddamn sexual fantasies. Say what you want about the theatrics of like, say, a gay leather daddy. But when playtime is done the leather daddy takes off the costume, showers off the lube, and goes to work in the morning. He does not have the expectation that the dynamics of his sex play will be carried through into all areas of his life and validated as natural truth throughout the rest of society. Far less does he use that expectation to derive general rules of moral and ethical behavior, as in “who should pay?” and so forth. That would be incredibly stupid and childish and selfish and narcissistic and solipsistic, right? Demographics being what they are, I imagine there’s already a huge population of straight people who have this well in hand already. Many of them are probably a little bit irritating, but you guys gotta have like a conference or something and just figure this out. Cuz to be quite honest, as a middle-aged gay man, I’m so sick of all the childish bitching from straight people about problems that are obviously of their own making, and that obviously tittilate them on an unconscious yet baldly obvious level. It’s the worst porn imaginable. Figure it out.

Tom

You guys need to get Cassie Pritchard on to talk about AI. Zitron is kind of a tough hang

mex207

Another great Will and Kathrine episode! Movie mindset! Chunks chunks chunks!

Dongo

Shoutout to their family 😎🎤🪗🤙

Kroy

If Matt Christman is a Ferrari, Kath is a Pontiac Fiero

Kroy

OH fuck AAAND this a paid ep?

Ham Stroker’s Jackula

Sam Altmans podcast idea is just an absurdly transparent attempt to get even more data from its users. Tell me all about the few human things the AI can’t perceive, tell me about your kids, I promise these data points won’t be used maliciously

Dongo

The more I listen to the ai-maxxers talk the more I think the platonist-Aristotelian shadow war is real and the aristotelians need to be stopped

Omegasmash

who woulda thought that girlfriend episodes would be the best

drunk cig

Be honest, is Katherine just Virgil in sweatpants?

hrtzgod314

Are there any articles written in mainstream publications that aren't thinly-disguised advertisements lmao

hrtzgod314

SPREAD your wallet and APPly yourself on a first DATe, fellAs

George Bell

BREAKING: Menaker says talks with vultures “underway” to open the Barn of Hormuz.

Justin Kase

LLMs: enabling sociopaths since 2025.

June Hardwick

As a trans woman recently starting both transitioning and therapy, I was really struck by Katherine speaking about knowing yourself and the necessary labor involved. That really nicely summed up all the work I'm taking part int, and I think it was put beautifully despite the nightmare situation she was speaking to.

Isaac

I can hear him narrating a UFC match between John Fetterman and Prime Kimbo Slice in my head and I can’t turn it off 😭

Isaac

To be fair, she has been there since the beginning.

Isaac

Is that in reference to Katherine and Amber?

Isaac

FOUND THE BROKIE 🗣️🗣️

Isaac

I think it goes beyond non-lethal, I don’t think you’re allowed to even touch them. A paintball gun is non-lethal but that would still be a biiiig no-no.

Robin

These episodes with Katherine are goated. there’s always a lot of energy and it’s a great listen

mckinley faas

I belive Liz from true annon actually did the kidnapping of that old lady the timing is way to sus they never did an episode on it ...I mean come on its so obvious those baby sounds in the background are just brace

Rocío Galarza

This episode was really good, guys. <3

pq

absolutely cannot believe we got a nuclear apology from Will

etienne

if you don't have Etiennegermentum or Sommer or someone to cover the primaries im gonna shoot myself epic style

etienne

honestly I always kind of respected her for that because like sure being a data sicko is kind of cringe but committing that hard to the premise and putting her body on the line to make extremely phenomenal graphs is ... it's transcendental at that point

etienne

idk if I were trying to describe a behind the scene person who shies from the front stage but holds the whole thing together there's another name I'd give out

etienne

it's not me but yeah if will is posting like 17 times on twitter about how the Pentagon is merging with the IDF and the bill just passed it would be kind of interesting to mention it on the main show

polygon-primitive

Fun fact, the tech dweeb wedding you’re referring to was a wunderkind AI hedge fund guy and he got margin called and lost 30 billion dollars DURING the wedding

Arid

I'm so glad I never have to interact with the op-ed class

Chantz

Huh so I'm not the only listener with this name

Steven Hildebrand

I grew up and hour and a half north of Wisconsin Rapids. This might be the first time I have heard anyone say that name outside of Wisconsin.

Michael S. Judge

buddy, if you think THAT's gonna end up in "We fucked once," you are, respectfully, unprepared for the kind of slaughterhouse nightmare you're about to enter, and of your own free will

Cockadoodle

Any advice for having too work so many hours I can't possibly have the energy left to date? What about not being able to afford my own living space and thus having no access to privacy?

Isaac

1. Monafinil 2. Find a girl with her own place. Guys get way too in their head and think living with their roommates/parents or having a bullshit job is going to be a dealbreaker, when in reality the dating pool is so bad that most women will gladly overlook it if you’re funny and bathe regularly and aren’t a misogynist.

T4Tina

It would be more logical, and tbh psychologically much healthier (both reasons is why these AI perverts would never do it) it would be much healthier to just pay for sex, than to construct this little house of cards for their wilting masculinity, but the direct: “face your problems head on” runs totally counter to everything the patent medicine men of the 21st century are trying to do.

Zack Burke

This is kinda tough- I function really well on very little sleep. I mean, you have to be able to carve out as much time as possible for yourself. Work sucks, we have to do it. The living space situation isn't as big a deal as you'd think. You can also just talk with your roommates about, like, having privacy time if you have to.

Eric

What the FUCK is a "child-welfare advocate" and why does this article just gloss over that like it's a job?

EaZy E

I wasnt prepared for 'Amy Goodman, welcome to jamaica' followed by the horns. Lmao

Jared Goodwin

Can you really blame people for wanting to find a well off partner when they DO live in a capitalist society that is increasingly extractive and making it harder and harder to survive? I’m not saying it hasn’t made things increasing caustic. But it makes sense.

James Wallace

What the fuck won't Will Marry this queen already.

Evan Dammarell

My MIL uses Chat GPT for everything (what to wear, what to say, etc.) and I’m deathly afraid she’s going to use it whenever she’s around my newborn.

EZ

Thank you for this lovely story! Endearing indeed

Dr. Ron Jambo

The really amazing thing about Katherine and Yuengling is not that she thought it was Chinese, but that "ue" is pronounced "i" in both names, Krueger and Yuengling. (Which accords with most German dialects, I might add).

Ivy Green

Ok so here’s some dating advice - drink in the parking lot BEFORE the show (and maybe a little during the opening band). Get a ride home with the funny guy who compliments your Iron Maiden t shirt, and talks you out of fighting a tweeker for money. 16 years later we still have each other, a house, and a cool kid. I don’t think you can get that experience from a spreadsheet.

Jacob

Schizophreaknia

Anthony Harrison

I cannot express how hype I am about listening to Will & Hesse wax philosophic on Jurassic Park, a movie I have seen, conservative ballpark, probably 300 times

Logan Behar

It’s boosie badass for the musical performance

Jock Litzinger

I was already feeling very pessimistic about dating but after hearing this, good riddance haha

Nathan

The new Felix series has to be dark souls right?

J T

Would love to hear Will and Hesse discuss Possession (1981), could pair well with Suspiria (2018) or The Brood (1979) …

Smallog

it’s depressing to hear how the dating quotient people are debasing their lives into spreadsheets on the heels of the “bloodless quant” discourse. It’s like they’re bloodless quanting themselves into being miserable

Isaac Bartlett

I both played football and watch it that was the best 4min of any episode