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The year is 2009. Baquack Odoula is giving birth to Obunglercare and telling Americans that if they like their doctors, they can keep their ashes in urns above their fireplaces after they are rounded up and incinerated (Google “doctor’s plot”). Jay Cutler is filling Chicago Bears fans with hopes of a better tomorrow. Taylor Lautner is at the height of his powers. It may not be morning in America, but we all woke up at 2 PM, so same difference.

Across the world, a coder employed by From Software eager to prove his mettle is told by his employers that they just so happen to have a game that is so poorly made, behind schedule, and over budget that if he really wants to, the former Oracle employee can take over its development and try to make something playable. Now free from the clutches of the Ellisons and their blood sacrifices, the man and his team work day and night to turn a quagmire that was previously called something like The Terrific Reclaim of Dark! [1+3=0 Edirion] YOU ARE INFINITE into something playable. That 30 something boy that nobody liked grew up to be Hideteka Miyazaki. And the game? Our inaugural entry for Season 2 of Player’s Club, Demon’s Souls.

Frequent collaborator and long-suffering podcast dungeon master Patches was kind enough to join me on this first step through From’s contemporary catalog. This game may be the least of From’s efforts from the catalog of games it kicked off, but it’s not for a lack of ability or vision. Even just making something functional out of such a mess would have been an achievement by Miyazaki and co, but they did more than that. Demon’s Souls may lack some of the more brilliant level design and deceptively deep combat of later entries, but it cannot be overstated how little they had to work with and just how deeply this entry deviated from the standard fare put out by Japanese publishers the size of Bandai Namco in 2009. While everyone else was making once-challenging and open-ended titles more linear and centering every level around scripted set pieces, Demon’s Souls broke the mold by harkening back to a time before endless handholding, and delivered a game that respected its players enough to allow them to tackle individual levels and bosses how and when they saw fit.

For this entry, I did my playthrough on a PS3 emulator, meaning I went without the quality of life adjustments in the 2020 Blue Point remake. That said, I found myself enjoying my experience more than my first go around on the PS5 version years prior. To say this is the least challenging or exciting of the remaining 6 (or 7, if you count Shadow of the Erdtree as a separate entry) games on our docket is not a knock on this game, but a compliment to the massive leaps in quality From achieved in each consecutive release. The fact that such a catalog grew out of a game that was almost abandoned before Miyazaki became the stepfather that stepped up. 

Praise aside, I don’t care for Stockpile Thomas. He always has to be such a downer. I didn’t ask for your life story! 

The wonderful Patches can be found on Twitter (@Senator_Gun) and as the dungeon master of my personal all time favorite DnD episodes we’ve ever done. He does not necessarily share my opinion that Stockpile Thomas is responsible for his family’s awful deaths.

AS ALWAYS: The first episode of this season of Players Club is free and available on all podcast platforms. All subsequent episodes will be available exclusively for Chapo Patreon subscribers.

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FA

4 hours for the very first episode, I will drink deep of this radiant slop

Brent

Marianne, hold my calls.

marley

4 HOURS ON EP 1 GOD IS GOOD

Twerk dancer (edited)

Comment edits

2026-10-27 12:00 Calling Demon's Souls the 'least' of the Souls games is exactly how you start a flame war, hope you're ready for the replies 😘
2026-08-19 12:06

Kapjak

HOGS SATED

Ruairi Mc

Can't believe I'm about to listen to a 4 hour podcast on a game I've never played nor wish to play

RanRan Bobandy

There is gonna be so much good slop from Season 2 of this series if the first episode is 4 hours long LMAO. Thank you, Felix

Dallas King

i gasped when i saw the email

Twerk dancer (edited)

Comment edits

2026-10-27 12:00 Emulator original > Blue Point remake is a wild hill to die on, remake fans about to riot 😚
2026-08-19 12:09

bruce

baquack odoula is crazy

miniiguana

The original demon's souls is still my favourite soulslike of all time, it just has such a unique vibe and a really nice slow pace of gameplay, excited for this episode

miniiguana

It's just true though, the remake is a straight downgrade, it's like a weird mashup of demon's souls with elements from ds3 and bloodborne, also they ruined the unique vibe of each area and made everything blue and orange

electricvomit

Imagine referencing 2009 and going with the Chicago Bears Jay Cutler instead of the comeback olympia winning Jay Cutler

Twerk dancer

Real, they took the janky charm out and replaced it with a Bloodborne skin, at that point just play Bloodborne

etienne

Felix is going to squeeze SO much juice out of that "guy with a criminal background taking a class to become a male doula" joke

etienne

sir another podcast about a game I'll never play has dropped

Sam Cook

The Demon inside me? Yeah, I'm thinking it's about to be touched.

Ian H. B.

Commute guy here, and erm... You could say my listening time is accounted for 😏

Kane Shirley

playing this in 2009 felt truly groundbreaking and it has some features like world tendency i wish was explored further i liked it so much that i bounced off dark souls when it first came out and took two years to get into downtown

Tim O'

Saw the title, saw the runtime, started laughing like the Mark Hamill Joker

Tim O'

My fingers are tented like Mr. Burns

Rat Knight

If this is the first episode...holy fuck... I can't wait for the DS1 episode.

anonymoose

Holy shit it really is 4 hours long

hrtzgod314

Never played any of these games, just like the last season, and I can’t wait to listen 😀

Squeet Deedle

I hated the Latria redesign as much as the next guy but Maiden and Fool's Idol have their little piggies out in beautiful 4k, so I accepted that the demons souls remake is a land of contrasts

beefcrimes

Felix begins speaking at 0:04

NJT

Finally a topic that matters

Squeet Deedle

Felix blaming the 60 inch television for why he was bad at Sekiro lmao

Cody Ross Rex

I was promised 7 hour episodes. Is this just a preview for non-members

Biglacheese

I listened to players club season 1 while towing my truck across the country after the transmission shit out, I will now listen to season 2 while I put a new transmission in that truck, time is a flat circle all things are good in the world

king_von_diesel

I didnt even get past anor londo. And yet

Esteé Dee

The things we do for Felix

Ozzie

PRAISE THE FAILSON!

Eli Navvy

I ordered a physical copy of the remake to replay while listening to this and it gets here tomorrow so I was worried I might finish this before I got it but No I won’t lol

Philip Malcolm

4 hours… that’s actually longer than o played this game

lil terracotta

My eternal gratitude for this AM drop

Sam

Shen-mo?

Cascadia Breadloaf

Patches is clearly David J. Roth there's no way he's not

Twerk dancer

'Land of contrasts' is the most accurate way to describe a game where they nailed the pig statues and botched an entire zone's atmosphere

Tvvvv

Demon Folx

Big Problem

Not even five minutes in and this MF is calling Shenmue Shenmo. Felix heads are so back 🤗

gav

I’ve only played elden ring I’ll be using this season to decide my next fromsoft game

gav

2 cumia references already.. praying for a mancow shout

Jack McGuffin

Shout out to Shenmoe Szyslak. Lan Deeznuts, do we have a Lan Deeznuts here?

Squeet Deedle

"piggies" in this context means toes, Mr. Dancer.

Twerk dancer

Caught in 4k (literally). My apologies to the toes, they deserved better from me

vansdan

damn. that early part about climate change was on point. i never thought about it like that but felix is 100% right

vansdan

you should play it :)

Dogmatic Cat

Excited for their co-op title on Switch 2. Too bad I have to play in on Switch 2.

nick schultz

I have no idea what this is, and God help me, I never will.

Tooffixer

When Dark Souls first came out Gamespot wrapped up its review by saying that this game is “destined to be loved and talked about for years to come.” They had no idea how right they were

YearsLikeFevers

you didn’t get the right subscription tier

Proboscis Man

The “butthole demon” motif is based on kappa folklore where they steal the shirokodama, a mythical organ that contains the soul or life essence to consume.

Blue Chicken

I am an hour in and unless I missed it, they never established what you're doing in the game. Like what is the goal of the player

Agrax

Lets go the vape is back

Thomas Potter

We have found the Joe Rogan of the left.

av

Not quite right to say there are no shields in Bloodborne. the wooden shield item offers one of the most enduring descriptions of the combat mechanics of BB and the wider series generally. "Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity".

buttface

4 hours of autism style millennial "humor"

Coleman

From Software games have the thinnest gloss of story. R-slurs on gaming forums are supposed to fill in the gaps. The real question is whether or not we can prevent them from voting Republican.

Vivian Irby

He just spelled Dark Souls 3 wrong that's all

Twerk dancer

Autocorrect really said 'let them fight' and I respect it

Coleman

How about gender switch 2... whatever you feel and I'll respect it. 🌈

vansdan

Random thought: yal should cover Max Payne in your catch-all series

Percy Plump

59:30 the swamp “dry heaving” is the overencumbered effect. If you use the iron flesh spell in later souls games (demons souls warding spell doesn’t have any slowing effect) or wear 100+% encumbrance armor in any souls game the same thing happens. Later souls games have a special slowing for walking in swamps where you can still roll but I guess for convenience in DeS they just copy/pasted the overencumbered effect

Yairo Martis

I played it 16 years ago, and it's surprising how many details come back as they talk about the game.

Yairo Martis

The whole game is the bird screeching.

Cory Gipson

I’ve never played a FromSoft game other than Elden Ring and a brief foray into Bloodborne but I’ll go ahead and listen to every single one of these

Meowzedong

Can’t wait to listen to this over several days in the gym

wreaktangle

"Dark Souls 1 is so easy compared to DS3 😂😂😂" Meanwhile I'm struggling with my 1st playthrough tho I've played ds3 multiple times 😭

A.L.

It's mosty unestablished in the game, you play a random mute avatar who is supposed to save a kingdom invaded by demons because the king is messing with an eldritch big demon, but you get killed and your soul is linked to a place called the Nexus. Killing demons gives you souls and you can use souls to become more powerful and kill the 5 big demons, the Nexus acts as a hub between the 5 routes where the 5 bosses are and you can do it in any order you want.

saintbeau

4 hours holy moly

professional loaf of bread

When I was a teenager me and my friends did acid while my mom (who is a heavier set woman) was at the house. When she caught us, my friend recalled her stalking of the hallway akin to that of the prison keeping chaos demon in the beginning of dark souls. I still don’t know how to feel about that

Ant koz

Pretty sure 2 pm is the earliest I ever woke up in 2009

Vivian Irby

Miyazaki did not "do programming" on Armored Core, he directed Armored Core 4 and For Answer. You guys also keep saying he directed 6, which just isn't true. He didn't work on 6 in any capacity.

Kyle Robey

it embarrassing how excited i am for this

Jacob Callahan

God I love this series makes my work day so much better

Tristan Clark

A bowling for soup pun? Truly the podcast all the bad guys want.

Logan McDaniel

My favorite part of this episode was turning up the volume to hear the subtle whispers of Felix , only to get my ears blasted by patches much louder audio track.

Bob Chappell

hopefully they talk about how fucking good the valley of defilement and maiden astraea are, these games don't need nearly-impossible bosses to sing

Seth Jarrell

These games are bad. Lost Kingdoms died for this garbage.

Clean Beans

Can't wait to hear the episode on DS2! despite the weird/impossible sense scale/location in the game, I've always thought it has my favorite world building in the whole series. I'm interested to hear what y'all have to say!

Richard Cochnar

Played Demon’s Souls when it came out. The really special part of the experience for me was having to resort to poorly translated Japanese wikis to try to navigate 5-2. Reminded me so much of early final fantasy 11. It was a unique kind of communal gaming.

Percy Plump

This and the lies of p damage type convo are examples of why it’s hard to talk about demon’s souls, 17 years of history overshadow and obscure so much. Felix didn’t realize the dry heaving was the overencumbered effect because he is so used to souls games, he would never accidentally put on the brushwood set and get overencumbered. He sees that the 3 primary enemy types from lies of p are weak to the 3 different elemental damage types, and sees that as equivalent to using different damage types in demons souls. Something people miss about Demons souls is that, even moreso than dark souls 1, is a dungeon crawler. It started development as a king’s field game, after all. In the debug mode you can activate a glitchy semi-usable first person mode. That’s why there’s the carry weight system, to incentivize you to bring only what you need, make a foray into the dungeon, haul back your loot, and separate what you want to sell, store, and take with you into your next dungeon crawl. That’s why this is the game in the series that introduced the multiplayer messages. It’s why the combat is slower and clunkier than the subsequent games, and why there’s no weapon arts, or even special attacks like ds1 dragon weapons. And why the bosses, like the weapons, are not super focused on spectacle, with so many being puzzle bosses and with rather simplistic and slow movesets. It’s why the healing is the moongrass instead of the estus: the estus forces you to focus on combat so you master fights and don’t have to consume all of it and backtrack. The moongrass, as a typical rpg healing potion, only forces you to think about it in terms of carry weight and purchase price (or item drop rate LOL). It’s why some high level upgrade materials are easily permanently missable. You don’t really need them, they are a reward for a mastery of map exploration. It’s why the traversal tools like the vaulting is half-baked (there’s a video, it might be a cre5t video or illusory wall, showing a cut animation for full-on climbing a wall). Action-y traversal is not the point of the game. It is a dungeon-crawler with action elements. It’s not a very GOOD dungeon crawler, which is why the series has had wayyy more mainstream success leaning into the action and spectacle setpieces. But I think the discussion is rather lacking in not pointing out demons souls’ own influences and design decisions, since they’re important for why the later games are the way they are.

Richard Cochnar

“Why even bother” is explicitly the conclusion that True King Allant comes to. “No one wants to go on.”

Slop Hungry

Truly some of the worst content ever committed to pod

Ted Lavender

I’m over an hour in but lost the thread after approximately 10 seconds.

N0tagayman

The fuck is this shit? I am N0T gay!

Devin

My reaction to this upload at 1:56:10

JadedAech

Father ted is a British sit com about a priest(?) which was on in the 90s set in Ireland. I didn't watch allot of it but could be what you were watching.

buttface

pure unedited dog water - who is this even for?

Percy Plump

In regards to the dragon god talk at ~2:57:00, as you guys talked about, demons manifest in some way related to humans’ beliefs and will, since the soul in this world’s metaphysics is basically the mind and the the fog makes the inner workings of the mind bleed into reality. Proximity to physical objects associated with that belief also factor into where/how the demons manifest. Flamelurker is the demon version of the stonefang city inhabitants’ beliefs about Big M, since he’s their Culture Hero, and the temple his arena is in front of is probably dedicated to him. The dragon god is there because all the dragon bones from the ancient dragons Big M killed are littered around there, and the dragons are like the stonefang people’s satan figures. As for why the ballistas are there, ehhhh, I guess something like the dragon god also manifested during the previous cataclysm? Can’t really say, it is kinda lame.

Percy Plump

And to the Q Felix poses in relation to dragon god and astraea, astraea doesn’t care about what you do to other demons, she just doesn’t want you to interfere with what she’s doing in the valley. She sees herself as ending the suffering of the people in the valley by removing their souls, since that makes them mindless and thus unable to feel pain. It’s kind of grim and hard to parse, but that’s more because of what you guys said earlier that the game doesn’t really present any viewpoints or motivations for stuff. Is Astraea doing the right thing and you’re cruel for interfering and killing her and Garl? Hard to say, what’s the alternative? Returning the world back to “normal?” Selen says the valley feels “strangely pure,” referencing Astraea’s purity as a saint, which shows in some way Astraea IS honestly following through on her goal to do saintly work to the people in the valley. She’s absorbing the impurity from them by taking their souls. But that’s all the info we really get.

Jon W

I'm never going to play this game. So it's very nice to have someone who plays it for me. Thank you for your service, Felix and Patches

Jesse Brukman

Pay Brendan whatever it takes to produce these!

Connor

“THE DEMON WAS DESTROYED”

田

terrible take about Khazan but otherwise great episode

tristan

Helping me understand the mechanics of this fuck ass game so much better thank you 🙏

Ana

why does he sound so different

Wrought

Felix has gone through maybe the worst most fucked up play order of from games ive ever heard of. Starting with sekiro is weird enough, but his first dark souls game was 3???

calvin kilby

andre and the whole steakhouse eating good tonight

Agent Grange

Zullie the Witch mentioned 😎

dog on the roof

miyazaki got the idea for black phantoms when a complete stranger stabbed him right before a really important meeting.

J Fitz

I gave it a shot but not a single minute of this episode is interesting.

Ted Lavender

Father Ted couldn’t be less the BET show that Felix was referencing. Good show though.

Pat Morrison

input lag can be so brutal on the average tv imo but i still laughed lol

Wrought

Big ups to patches and maybe? Felix for the pillars of eternity mention, love those games

Pat Morrison

loved the ep, lots of fun. also enjoyed the magixx shoutout we love team spirit dont we folks

Jake

So pumped for the rest of this series

Wrought

Felt like crack hearing Felix finally talk about lies of p. Maybe it'd make a good bonus ep?

John Lisowy

Felix can talk with a guest for 4 hours about anything and I'd listen to it.

Scott

4 hours is brief as far as From essays go

Michael Branes

game difficulty existed long before the souls series. demon's souls is definitely difficult for the average player. bloodborne is easily the most difficult souls game, especially with the expansion of the old hunters. elden ring is a cake walk compared to the old hunters

Skeeter99

Been waiting for this one 😻

Brent

Guys, I think Felix might have been over leveled.

Mia

It’s nice to hear patches talk sincerely about something without getting made fun of by those 3 hooligans from pod about list

Nott Hemon

33:32 Felix says six seven

king_von_diesel

In a lot of ways, it's the defining game of the 21st century. AAA Developers either slotted into making increasingly polished, cinematic, but hand holdy experiences, or games-as-games that feel more comfortable with the concept that some players simply will never see all the material it has to offer even if they followed a walkthrough

Nathan

You can tell Felix wants to talk about Sekiro and Elden Ring so bad

Chris

me

Kojima Made Me Gay

Please do the David Cage games as the series finale.

Austin Bontrager

Ok, THIS kind of stuff might get me back on the paid tier for a month or two.

More Human than Human

It’s a shame these guys didn’t experience when it came out. They cannot appreciate how awesome it was at the time because Miyazaki has spoiled them with blood borne and dark souls. The obscure mechanics and the focus on the experience of exploring the game instead of pure entertainment value was unique.

ScorPWNok

Shenmue (rhymes with Venmo)

jick

Is this showing up on anyone's greywolf feed in the iphone app?

Terra Pin

Yeah... I played the shit out of this game

Adam Urato

Please post after every ep this is fascinating

Local Oaf

felix if you wanna know the outcome of introducing mercantilism to the Lands Between you just gotta look at the bottom of the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds

More Human than Human

Soul of Cinder does the same thing as Owl. Uses player specific mechanics.

Canadian

I’m a few hours in I feel like I missed the part where they explain any of the shit they’re talking about??? Did I miss something

richard parker

The first couple minutes is some great writing on Felix's part

Raoul Duke

Felix’s mic sounds like unacceptable dogshit, true chapo energy even on a solo pod

Bigriff

Honestly, the fastest 4hr podcast I’ve ever listened to about my least favorite souls game. Cannot wait for episode two.

Matthew Krueger

Got its own feed now. Same for Movie Mindset. What ya wanna do is go to memberships and then collections - inside collections you'll see the players club, and when you click on that there'll be 3 dots in the upper right corner and the first choice I think is "add to podcast app".

T4Tina

This is a single fucking EPISODE!?!? Like don’t get me wrong: I love that, but when I looked at “season 2”, I thought that meant the whole season was just being released as one episode. That being said, I’m kind of curious if Felix can even make a 3rd season. Is there a game he’s talked about as much as Metal Gear solid? I say MGS because he talks WAY MORE about dark souls, so I perceive MGS as the lower “relevancy bar” EDIT: probably Ace Combat

Alexander Matson

Some factual errors and dangerously bad takes in here, but I will allow it cus at least they rightfully shit on the remake. I hope subsequent episodes have guests who actually played the games on launch, cus that adds a lot of necessary context. Demon’s souls WAS considered a notoriously difficult game upon release - that was how its mythology in the west built up. Sure the combat seems slow and easy now going back, but the lack of checkpoints, penalty for dying, and general obscurity of the mechanics were the complete antithesis of game design at the time.

Richard Cochnar

Point of order: those trophies for alternate ways to kill bosses were added by bluepoint to the ps5 release. They weren’t part of the ps3 trophy list. It was a great addition by bluepoint and it sounds like they got added to the ps3 emulator as well.

Clean Beans

Great episode. Thank you Felix and Patches!

LandonVanBus

Less than ten minutes in and Felix has pronounced “Shenmue” 4 different ways.

LankyShooter

Interesting context thank u. how do I get gud so I can see all these characters they’re talking about? Maybe I’ll just play god mode cuz it’s a game and I have shit to do and pods to slop. It does look really good on the emulator.

Swimaroo

I learned so much about ASOIAF in the ep - weirwood net? The others are people?? Maester Conspiracy??? It's all here folks

Yarblockos

Did the Demon Soul games implement world tendency first? Seems like Knights of the Old Republic did this first.

C. Andrew

I think it's reaaaaaaalllllllyyy hard to talk about Ace Combat in a vacuum for more than an hour and I'm a big fan of the series and PW. You gotta just start doing a plane autism podcast discussing how cool the F-15 strike eagle is.

Nina

Americans be like "I only understood that other people in the world have lives bc of videogames"

TigerFM

You can’t do 1-3 after beating tower knight! The game says a powerful fog blocks the way and you can only progress after a full clear of one of the other worlds!

Agent Grange

The amount of Ace Combat references in here leaves me with hope of an Ace Combat / Project Wingman season sometime after Wings of Theve releases.

Michael Branes

i'm not trying to be an asshole, but i wish you guys got into the complex level design of tower of latria, especially part 2. the verticality is quite impressive, and you go down into the muck before you go back up to break the chains. there's also the spiraling staircases that are really fucking cool. i know you guys expressed the coolness of this area, but you didn't get into details about level design that i'd hope to hear more about with your insightful analysis. i also feel like the boss ai is not as bad as you guys express, i'm playing the original right now on ps3 emulator, and getting owned by the maneater boss. the pouncing maneuver kicks my ass.

Ethan Lamb

Im holding my bare forearm over an open flame to this and restarting the episode every time I pull it away.

Joe

Khazan is good actually

Ermete

On the lore-in-item description: one should also consider that Miyazaki was a fan of Magic the gathering. Earlier card had cryptic flavour text (snippet of text in italics at the bottom of the card) that provided a small window in the history of the game world, that could be pieced together by reading all the flavour text.

Patchuey

I am a rare long time woman listener. My husband is a huge Souls fan so I put this on in the car with him. For the first time ever, he turned the volume of a podcast up.

Canadian

This is such a bizarre format for a podcast

Jack Barker

Are they doing an episode on Armoured Core 6?

Cameron Higby-Naquin

The boss most inspired by Old King Allant, I think, is Dark Souls 2's Burnt Ivory King. There's a lot of overlap to their movesets, though no level stealing :(

Justin Friedman

Damn, is this why I never finished my playthrough of the remake?

Twerk dancer

Ha, maybe! The remake's solid but it's missing something the original nailed.

Twerk dancer

By the way, weren't you one of my Patreon supporters last year? Your name sounds familiar. Check out my page and let me know, please—it would be such a coincidence to find you here, hahaha. 😆

kee

The music in the remake is, technically, better, just woefully generic. Can't say it goes against the intention of the game; the first thing From bought when they could afford The London Symphony Orchestra was The London Symphony Orchestra. But, they made something very distinct sounding from a lack of resources.

Will

Patches sounds like the straight Ben Mora