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590 - ThankMedical feat. Andrew Hudson (1/3/22) (Patreon)

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2022-01-04 04:13:50
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2026-06

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We’re joined by friend of the show, Episode 1’s own Andrew Hudson, to discuss his experiences as an ICU nurse throughout the COVID pandemic, and why he decided to quit. We also discuss Rod Dreher’s investigation into homosexuality in the far right movement, and Jair Bolsonaro’s return to the hospital.

Listen to Episode 1 here: https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631

And subscribe here: https://www.patreon.com/e1podcast/posts

If you want to check out Andrew’s original videos on why he quit the ICU, they’re on his twitter here:

https://twitter.com/intellegint/status/1473357015564963840

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gill

EVERYONE SUBSCRIBE TO THE E1 PATREON NOW!!!!

Louie

flesh

Jason Weiser

another dose of cia psyop into my feeble mind nice

Gengeros

New year new episode of poppy?

T

Primitive club wiener

HeyB00B00

Damn, i got a lot of respect for this dude; especially talkin about joking about putting someone in a bodybag while they're putting someone in a bodybag. That's real traumatic shit

Will

Watched Andrew’s videos and listened to the pod and honestly fucking depressing. I’m a CNA on a Med-Surg floor with 50 beds and we’ve been overwhelmed for the past 3 months straight. We treat people like fucking cattle just to get a bare minimum of care in and some of the nurses are pulling 14 hour shifts 4 days a week just to make sure all their patients are charted properly let alone getting the care and advocacy they deserve from staff. I’ve watched people die from issues related to staffing shortages and I’m so damn angry I don’t know what to do. Quitting sounds great rn.

Carry-hunt

He’s going to get some hate for the union takes but he’s right. In large companies even large factions of people trying to unionize will lose their jobs. If you are one of many hospitals or warehouses they will close it no matter the effect on the neighborhood, region whatever. Nursing could be one of the first places to take back power because they have unique skills. The problem is creating solidarity across companies. That is the hard part that could make a change. Also lots of nurses are unionized but right to work laws nullify any gains

Shake zula

oh god I'm gonna go get fat(ter) as hell AND COVID if that means I can get fat shots of fent, propofol, an IV-able benzo, AND ketamine!!!! that sounds like a fucking BLAST

William

Not just taking advantage of your surplus labor, but taking advantage of your basic human decency to give a fuck about not letting someone die

Dean

Please unlock this. People need to hear this

Aaron Baer

Not really ... It gets old after a while, like anything else. Sometimes it's just a witty observation about the futility of helping people beyond the point of making a difference.

Declan Kennedy

great episode, pass on thanks to Andrew for the insights and putting up with the hard times to save some lives, respect

Shake zula

Evil Airline sounds dope as shit that was gold Jerry

Vincent Utah

It’s Monday. There’s nothing to unlock.

alan clay

Bullshit about wearing the masks though, I feel much better with an N95 mask on.

The Other Lauren

It was interesting to hear Andrew's perspective, even though I thought he was an unlikeable asshole.

Juji Gatame

Just to be pedandtic CPAP/BIPAP is the machine, not the mask, a patient who sleeps with their mouth open would still need a full face mask on a CPAP

Dan

I wonder where the discussion would have gone if we talked about schools opening up again in NY

LEAH NELSON

Depressing but really good ep . Interesting to hear Andrew’s perspective from inside the system

October

Ah, the armonica music at the end was just *chef's kiss*

Nick Cole

That was 10000x more Hudson than I ever wanted or needed

Alexandr

I like him more than I like you, Lauren. :)

COM

If you're in NY state, we can pass the NY Health Act - statewide single payer - THIS legislative session. Call your local Assemblymember and State Senator and give them an earful. There's a majority of co-sponsors they just blocked it last year.

T

I hate the official Chapo mask position. The centrist position between the goalposts that were set up by the country with the worst COVID response and most COVID deaths in the world. I wish I were Chinese.

Sarah Jarrett

Also, nursing unions are super dysfunctional. Giant pussies that have mostly sold younger nurses down the river and almost never really challenge power.

TangiePower

Thanks to Andrew for speaking up on this. This shit is harrowing and somebody’s gotta tell people.

Jesse DeStasio

Thank you for sharing this. I hadn't heard a word about it but will reach out today.

Oatmeal

Incredibly good interview. Tough listen for sure, but definitely a necessary one. I wish Andrew the best going forward, he deserves it for what he’s had to endure.

Paul larkin

Keep on wishing round eye, you stuck here just like the rest of us.

momilli

Democratic committee leader blocked this from floor vote last session Most major health care unions in NY and Physicians for a National Health Program are behind this and have organizing ready, as does umbrella org Campaign for NY Health

Clean Shirt Piggie

Rod Dreher just seems like well hung fruit at this point

T

I'll do anything. I'll get the Ariana Grande surgery. I'll willingly become the Uyghur boy in the striped pyjamas.

Mr. Lobotomy

God bless Andrew and all the other nurses, hopefully someday we can empower them to fully do their jobs and save more lives

Ascetic Blur

On EVIL Airlines your boarding pass is swallowing 3 Ambien and 3 Adderall at once. Alcohol consumption after that is Mandatory.

James Roche

When they bring the heavy stuff like Andrew's interview, the goofs in the reading series get twice the laughs just as a release. Really good ep.

James Browning

Happy to see you guys delve into my industry in the latter half. We up here in the fart chamber still. No hazard pay but plenty of farts still. Booger bonuses

Sam

Thank you guys for doing this. My best friend is a nurse who does the same thing that Andrew did. I’ve talked to him about this stuff before but I never truly understood what he was going through. Thank you to Andrew for being so clear and candid.

T

The CDC is still telling people not to wear N95s. Not because they don't work, but because the CDC doesn't want there to be an N95 shortage for hospital staff. There isn't even an N95 shortage anymore, but the CDC wants them hoarded for hospital staff. The CDC, Fauci, etc. all knew from the beginning that COVID was airborne and not just carried by big droplets. First, they said not to wear masks since it would scare people. Then, they said to wear cloth masks (and use hand sanitizer) so that people would go to work thinking that they had some protection against COVID while the government wasn't actually going to do anything. Then they said to double mask, because it was obvious that wearing a cloth mask didn't work. Now they say to use surgical masks. Anything but tell people to wear N95s, the best protection aside from vaccination. The mask discourse where people say that they don't want N95s is exactly as cucked as the vaccine discourse where people say that they don't want the vaccine. Everyone should have N95s and everyone should wear them. People are acting like vaccines are 100% effective, but they're not and never were.

Ben L

My dad was in the ICU for Christmas after a stroke, the nurses were so kind to him and kept him company. Thank you for everything you have done and will do Andrew

HarshMalarkey

Give nukes to nurses #GiveNukesToNurses

Casey Huelsman

Sadly it seems like this position is being taken up by the majority of the American left. It’s fucking pathetic

Greg

Those nurses Andrew worked with might not have been scabbing at that particular moment, buy they probably have in the past. Once a scab, always a scab

Matt Colston

Thank you Andrew for everything you did and do! Thank you for telling the truth. I was on the county government taskforce in a county that had 15 deaths in 1 week. I was a planner during the spring of 2020. I worked with our nurses and the horror stories they told me. I had a mental breakdown when I wrote the casualties down in the situation report because they were last names I knew. After a year of people dying I lost it. Your government at every level failed you. This pandemic beat us before it happened. The thing that happened at the top of the government happened on the bottom. The politics, the lies, the casual disregard for human life. It is at every level.

Harper Big Spender Karabees

Onde fica o dildo? (ON-Ji FEE-ca Oh DEEL-doo?) Gosto dos homens (GUOS-too DOS HUO-mens) Meu bolso de colonoscopía está vazando! (MAY-oo BOL-soo ZE Colonosco-PEE-ah es-TAH va-ZAHN-do!)

etienne

congrats to Andrew for realizing the dream of every single american person and getting a fulltime media career

Dean

I…lost all track of time and space. Thank you

Equality State Of Mind

Drinking a six pack at the beginning. Stopped. Did pushups. Vegetables, amirite?

Mark Schneider

That sure sounds like my old teachers' union in NorCal. Sociologically, since teaching and nursing both have lots of female staff and are "helping" jobs, we (incl. male teachers like me) were subject to lots of petty bullying and attempts by admin to work unpaid to "help the kids." But the people running our union were largely sellouts who were cozy with admin; our CTA staff person for years was a former 2nd in command district administrator who had open contempt for most teachers and regularly blocked attempts to push back strongly against abuses.

Colton Durbin

Bolsonaro please just fucking die already challenge.

Anna

This comment^^ I’m a physical therapist and though I have no where near the trauma nurses go though, I’ve had supervisors manipulate me with things like “don’t you want people to get care they deserve?” When I tell them I cannot adequately care for the amount of patients they give me. It’s honestly evil.

Anna

This was so goddamn refreshing to listen to as someone in the healthcare profession right now. People don’t have a clue how bad it is and I believe that’s by design.

etienne

he sounded 1000 times less rude and condescending than any one who deals with the general public has a right to be let alone members of the GP who are actively dying

etienne

oof single-payer without access to the money printer is pretty dicey

Antipaganda

I've been saved by a nurse noticing a chart typo made by the very fucking tired previous nurse. Nurses are the best, and we need to double their numbers immediately. (like that's possible after years of neglecting the resources devoted to their training!)

Nobody

Just listen to Joe Rogan and let the fat people die. What are we going to do about people who refuse to take the vaccine and outright lie about it? We aren't getting universal healthcare so what are we going to do to improve anything? At this point maybe just let the fascists win and kill of this shitty civilization

——

For all the people thanking this guy for his service… he quit! He also admitted he makes $35/hr Poor baby. Also I know alot Of nurses they’re all getting raises and massive bonuses to work OT

salt_thrower

"Don't listen to this guy's anecdote, listen to my 'friends' anecdotes! I'm right!" 35/hr is nowhere near enough to deal with the insane shit healthcare workers have had to bear over the last 2+ years.

Paul larkin

Hey Stu, I get paid $44 an hour to build TV/Film sets (Union) I think nurses deserve more than me.

luffa

shut the fuck up stuart. nurse pay varies wildly from state to state. if you're in a non union right to work state they'll pay you way less, and nothing stops them from stripping benefits like vacation/sick time accruement.

T

Most of you internet nerds would be too fat and physically frail to be a nurse anyway.

Gaz

Stuart, do you have a podcast I could subscribe to or a mailing list of some sort? I too believe that anyone that earns an hourly rate that's greater than mine is a parasite and that quitting, regardless of circumstance, should be met with at least a non-painful capital punishment. I look forward to hearing from you. xoxo

M.R. Alchemist

This one's like the Texas abortion ep. A worthy but difficult listen :(

Liam

i really want a chapo check in on red kahina

AKorgar

Asshole apparently didn't listen to the part where he talked about having to bag dead bodies around the clock even while taking care of people who are probably also going to die and then have to get bagged up, all while he's talking to these people's families and having to deal with their grief

——

Y’all are right I was harsh in my judgment Of this man.

Ben L

Hi Stuart I’m gonna beat ur ass have a good night

THEKILLERWHALE

Why do people do that? Do they take those drugs normally? I routinely see people get totally wrecked on the plane after taking a cocktail of pills and whiskey. Are they surprised by the results? Do they think that they can handle it? Why does this happen?

Scuttlebutt McNettle

I vote Nurse Andrew becomes a permanent Chapo presence. He's funny, and you have to replace Virgil anyway.

Doug Cartel

imagine being so brain damaged that you think OT pay makes up for the last 2 years where ERs were just slaughterhouses. "uhhh well you can't complain because your pay rate passed this point on the chart and if you're above the line on the chart you can't complain"

Steven Rice

I am a nurse in California. Sadly Andrew's story is not universal--even amongst nurses. Today, trump would beat biden and kamala worse-in my California Union ER. Especially after the AOC tax the rich dress thing, most actually think that Chapo and the rest of the Left are the radical supporters of clinton and pelosi. It is a problem worse than the Left now realizes.

Doug Cartel

buhhh uhhhh how the heck do navy SEALs get PTSD? they get paid so good! none of the ones I know OD on fentanyl, so what's this guy complaining about

Steven Rice

I’m sure Andrew knows, All nurses(including ICU nurses) fall into the selfish tribalism that allows them make adversarial relationships with all the other hospital units-as management tries to encourage( so they are off the front burner) I appreciate inpatients nurses! Thanks all of you.

Beev

Do they have a pact to mention josh gad every episode?

Steven Rice

Ian, my life is hell and I have given up hope. The most popular guy in my ER in a great nurse who quotes Ben Shapiro. Am I trolling? I wish :(. Ian, get your head out of that sand and take a sober look in the mirror. FYI the proudest moment of my life was when I helped lead my nurse staff to a YES vote to unionize in a previous hospital I worked in.

William Beamish

Fun facts: You can definitely get COVID on an airplane but fresh air from outside is constantly being circulated throughout the plane via the engines; all the air also goes through massive air conditioning PACKS that have HEPA filters in them. Not as safe as being outside but it's not just 1 little can of air like most people think. (This is standard for all 6 abreast or 4 abreast jetliners). As well, during COVID it's been standard operating procedure to run the air conditioning/filtering packs before people get on the plane. Basically, if you get COVID on a trip it's probably gonna be in the airport itself

etienne

thank you professor Pointdexter

Don Workman

OH FUCK MOMMY NO THE MEAN PODCAST MEN SAID THE WRONG TAKE ANOUT MASKS GODDAMNET NO MOTHER WHY DID YOU BORNED ME IN USA I WISH I WAS CHINAMAN FUUUUUUCK MOMMY IT HURT TO HEAR THEM SAY THE BAD TAKE MOMMY IT HURTED SO BAD

00000000000000000000

Will's friends who got Covid didn't have to go to the hospital for two reasons: #1 they're all 25 year old Brooklyn hipsters, and #2 omicron is really mild. It's not solely because they're vaccinated that they didn't wind up in an ICU. Sorry, but vaccines don't make that much of a difference. I've come to expect the finger-wagging and Fauci-worship on this podcast (which used to be a lot funnier and smarter) but please update your rhetoric occasionally.

William Beamish

happy to be of service in the fun facts department. let me know if you need more!

William Beamish

not sure which data you're looking at but my interpretation from recent numbers is that the vaccines are very effective at preventing hospitalizations and ICU

Steven Rice

For many of us nurses, it does not get old “like anything else”. For some of us, our sense of humor is our defense mechanism. And that really only works on the surface.

Steven Rice

The scabs are the nurse travelers who go to work where there are strikes and cross the line. The rest bail us out.

Gregory Martin

it's killing a thousand Americans a day, that might be "mild" compared to delta's 4000 American's a day. But if you told someone from before the pandemic that a disease killing a thousand Americans a day was "mild" I still think they'd look at you like you have grown a second head.

00000000000000000000

Yeah, and "it's 9/11 every day." Which sounds like a hysterical Republican talking point from the 2000s but now is being spouted by Chapo and much of the Left. Healthy young people were never at risk from Covid, vaccinated or not, but for the Left it seems de rigeur to pretend that a Covid "case" = death or at least time in an ICU. It doesn't. It never did.

00000000000000000000

The data I'm looking at is my own Covid; just got over it. It was a mild cold, nothing more. I, who am unvaccinated, got it from my brother, who is vaccinated, believe it or not. I did not need to go to a hospital. Like I said, a mild cold.

BROTHER TO BROTHER

Lol. Boo hoo podcast talked about real thing honestly instead of my fantasy world where I have an infantile relationship to everything so now they are liberals. God the listeners of this show are weird.

The Children of Jack Acid

Chapo also recommends drinking alcohol, which is nothing more than a big wet kiss to their love partners the DEMOCRATS (Who doesn't drink? Trump!!!!!!!), and they also wear shoes, just like a DEMOCRAT threw at Bush Jr. in 2005 (or whatever)! And since Biden loves socialism and so do they, we know whose dick THEY want to suck.

CT

Lol. Where’d you get your degree from and what is it that you do for work exactly, “bong bong”?!

CT

Also likely to not be “listeners” at all. Just saying..

00000000000000000000

With the huge spike in Covid the past few weeks I find it hard to believe there aren't a few more people on this Patreon page who got Covid themselves and learned firsthand that it's not a death sentence. Are y'all really that stupid that you still think catching Covid necessarily equals time in an ICU?

00000000000000000000

Hi Chris, I got my degrees from the same stupid liberal arts schools you did. My occupation is posting totally no-brainer, obvious shit on Patreon that shouldn't be controversial but for some reason is.

William Beamish

didnt your degree have some courses on research methods and shit at least? maybe you didnt do too well in those ones :\ If the vaccine is ineffective then why are a disproportionate number of unvaccinated people dying and going to hospital and ICU at a higher rate compared to vaccinated people? Canada had some numbers showing something like 20% of the pop being unvaccinated but them making up 1/2 of the hospital cases and 2/3 of the ICU cases Whats going on with that data if the vaccine isn't at least somewhat effective? No scientists claimed it was going to be ironclad protection

Greg Lizza

So, my brother-in-low got COVID and he was vaccinated plus there were three people at work who were vaccinated and got COVID. How does your fancy math and percentages and fractions explain that ! Plus none of those people went to the hospital. Plus my friend’s friend got moo-carditis from the vaccine.

Greasy_Jones

lmao being intubated sounds horrifying

etienne

you think ppl pay 5 a month to duke it out in the comment section?

CT

Have you looked around at the world we live in lately? That’s like, the LEAST crazy thing I could imagine at this stage in time.

Zach Lemon

Classic right wing Cro-Magnon evidence. "Oh, you brought data? Well that wasn't my personal experience, therefore you're wrong." Nice. The fact you weren't in the percent of people who had a rough go of it is statistically meaningless.

Stormy Rae

UNIVERSAL ✌️ HEALTH👌 CARE👏

Stormy Rae

Will truer words have t been spoken...AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THIRTY MF YEARS AGO. Say it louder for the B's in the back.

Stormy Rae

Andrew Hudson you have every right . They need you more than you need them . Wow. Learned a lot from you. Just loved this episode.

00000000000000000000

There's also plenty of evidence that Omicron is mild; I was just referring to my experience and those of people I know who got it. The WHO just dubbed it "less severe" albeit chafing at calling it officially "mild"; its comparative mildness is well documented. But if you want to pretend it's not significantly more mild than other variants, whatever. Triple up on your N95 masks and hyperventilate some more. The rest of the world is moving on from this pseudopandemic.

AKorgar

Yeah 800,000 dead and way more on the way, the world is moving on... into the next world. Honestly bud you're a POS, but I'm saying that for my own benefit, not yours.

AKorgar

Dude hate-watchers/hate-listeners are crazy sometimes. The sheer amount of cranks out there on the internet is mind boggling

AKorgar

Hey guys I'm on this socialist podcast to say that this worker is being a BIG CRYBABY and he's getting paid too much to complain!

AKorgar

Trying to dissect the mindset behind the phrase, "Sadly, Andrew's story is not universal." SADLY. Like, let's assume for a moment Steven is right, how is it SAD that this story wouldn't be universal

Nobody

Take more ivermectin you fucking dork. Why should we have universal healthcare when only unhealthy and old people mostly need care??

00000000000000000000

OK, you've convinced me. Everyone who is not vaccinated has either died of Covid or will die of it soon. Omicron is not more mild than previous variants; it's much more deadly. Vaccinated people cannot get or transmit the virus. Universal health care is bad because even unvaccinated people get it; let's never do that. We need another two years of lockdowns and mandates; they work perfectly, we just have to do them more and believe in them. You've all changed my mind.

Greasy_Jones

this is one of those episodes where you glance at the comments and are baffled as to why everyone is so angry

COM

NY State, an as an economy itself, is the 10th largest economy on earth - larger than Canada or Denmark. We can afford it, but even more striking, an analysis of this program shows it would cost less compared to our bloated private insurance system

Logan

China had 2 covid deaths last year

AKorgar

Why don't you go suck Joe Rogan's long weird nipples

Jeff Martin

Great episode. My buddy died from diabetes at 37 a few months back. The state was paying for his dialysis and whatnot but not giving him money for healthy food or anything else really. Infuriates me

Kevin Price

pretty sure the survival rate of intubation isn’t much better then a coin toss. Terrifying stuff

Wtf looks Like a Damn

I'd be fucking psyched if I was Will with some rando guessing I'm 25

Lilith

The 1000 deaths a day are still from the residual delta variant. there hasn't yet been a confirmed case of anyone dying of ormicron (dying with, but not dying of. You know, like how George Floyd died with covid but of being strangled to death). Ormicron is now overwhelmingly recognized as less severe then the flu, comparable to a seasonal cold.

Lilith

It is horrifying, and if you were orally raped or molested as a child, then you can imagine how much worse it is even to be tied down by strangers and have this penis shaped object stuck down your throat for days on end (and you have no way of telling the nurses and doctors doing this to you about it until afterwards, because the trachy tube stops you from being able to speak).

Lilith

They probably put their survival of the ormicron head cold down to the vaccine, the same vaccine that they're pretending didn't give their father a heart attack, and didn't cause their girl friends mysterious long covid like syndrome. The people on these pages have bought as deeply into the propaganda as the chapo boys. The lack of a left wing critique of these dangerous, ineffective, highly lucrative vaccines and the roll back of our human rights is shameful. For myself, every time they mention covid/vaccines I find myself toying with cancelling my subscription. They've seemed really lost since Bernie capitulated to the DNC, and their coverage of covid/vaccines has done nothing but covered them in s**t.

Hank Single

Hold on, you pay for this, and you think they 'Fauci-worship'? lol

00000000000000000000

Lilith-- we're on the same page. I've enjoyed the show for many years but you're right, circa Bernie's capitulation they started going off track, and all throughout Covid their coverage has been indistinguishable from any mainstream outlet. Which is sad. Right now there are vaccine mandates and restrictions in NYC-- their own backyard-- that discriminate against people, disproportionately against African Americans. But have you heard one word of commentary about that from them? A single mention? Nope. None. They're into animal videos on Youtube instead. All the recent labor struggles that are going on? Especially if it's related to vaccine mandates, they don't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Debjani Bhaumik

This is one of your best episodes. You can hear the trauma in the voice of your guest. My cousin is a doc in an ICU, and he looks haunted everytime I see him. The description of this looking like a war that was lost years ago was a brilliant insight.

Horse Badorties

Airplane facts: The air circulates from the top down so you don't smell your farts.

Horse Badorties

You should check out the Episode 1 podcast, it has more Hudson than there are stars in the sky.

Horse Badorties

Alkeehol hits like a rock at high altitudes/low air pressure.

Horse Badorties

Medical humor is really brutal, like the job it is not for the squeamish.

drewb

you're a solipsistic sociopathic freak, hth

Hector Jaime

Patreon comments need a “downvote” feature.

Hector Jaime

Is it possible that the anti-vax machine pays people to subscribe and spread propaganda in the comments?

Hector Jaime

Sorry. I just realized I pulled the equivalent of “Russian bot” in my response.

sobie

my friend whos an icu nurse recently got covid and had to be hospitalized cus she was coughing so much she fractured her ribs

Lesley Anne Noelle

Andrew-Hudson-have-we-gotta-show-for-you… x(math math math)= 987% funnier* *opinion, opinion, opinion, opinion

Lesley Anne Noelle

I got a lot of respect for this dude, especially when they’re talking about putting a corpse in a body bag—and he’s so damned funny🤣

Lesley Anne Noelle

I was 💯 hilarious …perhaps they’re just new humans, here.