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603 - Gone Ape feat. Mike Isaac (2/17/21) (Patreon)

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2022-02-18 03:22:11
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2026-06

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Tech journalist Mike Isaac joins us for a run-down of the latest in increasingly-dystopian tech news including: Celeb NFT shills, the Meta boom, influencer crypto heists, bricked ocular implants, and chimp neuro-torture. Fun stuff!

Check out Super Pumped, the new Showtime show based on Mike’s Uber book:

https://www.sho.com/super-pumped

And for Mike’s book go to:

https://www.mike-isaac.com/

Tickets for our southern tour still on sale here: chapotraphouse.com/live

And tune in to patreon.com/chapotraphouse this Saturday at 10 a.m. cst for info on getting free tickets to our Patreon SXSW show on Sunday 3/13.

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Zach

Absolute Prime Matt episode

John Furey

read that as Caleb NFT Shills and got real upset

Clint Pelvis

ep was mostly good and then it sucked shit

Brendan Garcia

Dude sounds like Badger from Breaking Bad

William

With every passing day, I understand the Unabomber more and more

Treaded Water

I love when the boys sit back and let Matt go.

vermouth

Christman go hard

T

I'm very disappointed to find out that this is a paper hands podcast. I'd unsub if I weren't so committed to hodling.

Sam Zeng

Matt and Felix are going off dude. New frontier of Capitalism and its totality.

m k U L T R A

NFTs are a fucked up response to "art in the age of mechanical reproduction"

O

damn matt spittin in this one

T

No one finished a sentence in this entire episode

T

Unabomber is only a way station on the route to the realization that the Neolithic Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Gary Alexander

The NFT "pitch" to gamers was also really stupid. Like transferring unique ingame items across completely unrelated games. It was the sort of idea that nobody familiar with games thought would even work, let alone wanted at all.

William

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."

Kaleidoscope Chameleon

Aren't like all U.S Dollars all NFT being printed with serial numbers making them all 1 of a billion on a U.S federal blockchain in a way?

T

I would like to have my custom nba2k22 7’6 sharp shooter to be equipped with an Elvin battle axe from WoW

SoldierBlue

The only thing interesting about all this is asymmetric cryptography. Everything else is libertarian propaganda.

T

This entire episode is one nested sentence

justdave

uuuuuuGHUuUzuuuuuzuuuuUuuuuUUUUUUUUUUGGG H HHAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHBHHHH!

Evan Pitkin

We should trigger Zero Dawn. Fuck this world.

Major bit me

Haven’t listened yet is this about my portfolio

Sacklunch420

Matt snorted a fucking addy right before recording

T

Maybe we’ll get lucky and the material economic conditions won’t even be able to sustain metaverse ready player one bulshit. How much worse could Little House on the Prairie style living be than this shit?’

justdave

My mother ate squirrels something that people in my generation (millenial) would brag about, you die of dipserosis (cow disease, this is a joke) and you would beat off to the idea of meeting your cousin one day

Jim McKenna

Sure would be nice if their guest could complete an entire thought or sentence. He spent the whole episode tripping over himself. Never finished a thought one fucking time. I love Chapo, but most of their friends are navel-gazing fuckheads.

David Browm

Dude sounded a little nervous but I think he did great

Brandon

The Goodfellas thing has got me pissing my pants over here. Great job boys, the show and its expanded universe has been amazing lately

m w b

that's not what navel-gazing means dumbass

Major bit me

Yo chill talking on podcasts seems really hard

YukiNukem64x

After listening to the ep and discussing the situation with Chris, they told me that they cut and mixed it like that specifically to piss you off as an individual.

Juji Gatame

For more info check "Line Goes Up" YouTube video by Folding Ideas

Scot Forsythe

Felix is right about Valve my Mann Co. ball cap and JoJo tag are going to the fkn moon

Vincent Utah

Take a shot every time Will does a quick, loud inhale while talking. Die.

kallampero

I contemplated selling my Charlotte ticket. Then I listened to a Biderman-Christman volley for the ages. Now, marching headlong into the self-feeding guillotine, I find my Chapo Ticketmaster meatspace NFT clenched tightly in the DIAMONDest of HANDS. Let's goooooooo

Max Gorcowski

Who all wants to form a posse and save those experimental apes

Simon

nice to hear a matt rant again, dont get so much of it these days, probably because hes off spilling his intellectual seed onanizing on twitch, instead of preserving the fount of his inner power for its proper use in the podcast group discourse

Clean Shirt Piggie

Will cherish that moment I shared in meat space with the Chapos at Bernie HQ in Des Moines when Cushbomb’s fist and mine literally touched

Jeffrey Johnson

What do you guys make of the RT Keiser Report guy moving to El Salvador and urging everyone to move to CryptoUtopia? These latest episodes are on YouTube - He seems to be all in on specifically BitCoin.

markers

Let's get Jim on Chapo guys

Bobby Volcano

You should turn that into an nft

Alexandr

That is seriously a WTF thing. What happened to Will that is causing him to do that sharp inhalation? Long-C Lungs? :(

DopeTipped's Raid:Shadow Lessons

Matty in his technogodkiller armor, comes damn near close to reaching final form about 20 minutes in; easily one of the best yet gents. *chef's kiss* Beautiful... simply beautiful.

THEKILLERWHALE

Yeah the line about having a masturbation fantasy and your legs stopping working was hilarious.

Lulu

I'm too dumb to ever fully understand what Matt's point is but he sounds right, so I agree with him

Aaron Baer

Very dense body of citations ... Mofo drops gems

Lulu

That Chuck-E-Cheese/Metaverse commercial was so depressing and I can't believe anyone would think it was a good ad. They don't promise you the opportunity for a better future in reality, but instead that you can only relive your past in a virtual world.

Patrick Burke

Christman was in the pocket on this one, flaying people

Nick Perri

Matt shot out of a cannon. Good stuff.

AwkBinoc

This was great. No complaints, and I love complaining.

Ian Priest

Mike givin' us some monkey noises right out the gate this ep, that's some primo goofy content - we love to see it folks

Ryan Johnson

There was a vision of an anarchist decentralized web, but sadly this libertarian Web3 difi nonsense took over instead. It's actually good to want to crush companies like Facebook that colonized Web 1.0

grimbo

his essence is being diluted

Pierce

Love to hear my boys put Joy Division in the interlude

Huge Logo

Can this be the last time you guys try to discuss this?

Jon Hollis

He should not avoid podcasting, but he should deny them his essence.

Mitch H.

Vape, not even once.

beats_on_repeat

Matt rules on this one. he’s the best chapo. He should write books

Dyyyyylan

Halfway through, already the best ep in a long time

Jon Hollis

initiate third impact

jordan

Love Matt, started to go Fredy Perlman today, love to see it

Michael Coutts

I believe his argument is that web 3.0 is the puzzle box from hellraiser.

kallampero

Similar cherished moment in Vegas, on the last good day before the end of history, talking Disney and Nickelodeon psychos at the Peppermill.

Taylor Fredrickson

Jfc guys. If you want to shit on crypto, dope. But your level of knowledge about this is embarrassing. Always makes me cringe hearing crypto talk on chapo

Fender Belly

Felix you are welcome to come home with us after the show in Charlotte and play Elden Ring with us.

Walking Bones

Is this a crypto or tech podcast? Obviously not, which is why they get the tech columnist on to explain the jargon to them and the audience. Their opinions are those of normal people hearing what is clearly just another medium for the Greater Fool phenomenon, and you don't need to know how a blockchain works to see it.

Mark

Damn, Matt went the fuck off on this one

T

"Makes me cringe whenever TrueAnon calls Epstein a pedophile WHEN HE IS CLEARLY AN EPHEBEPHILE, WHICH WAS HISTORICALLY THE--" Knowing any more about crypto than they already do would be sus. All they need to know is that it's an annoying scam that hurts the environment, PC gamers, and Super Bowl ads.

theunderwolf

chapo future or trash trap house?

Matt Pasker

All time gem of a rant by Matt this episode.

Zach Pierce

New idea: PREOCCUPIED APE

Doug Cartel

Don't forget that around the same time the Neuralink story came out, word started spreading about how Musks' employees were treating their black coworkers like fucking PW Botha was running the place.

Jack

Ad Astra per Sanguinem!

Yairo Martis

Matt should get an orange whip and chill out.

Yairo Martis

The South African apartheid guy??!

Zack Burke

Digital pieces of 8.

Jonathan Conklin

I don't know if this episode is gonnah make me piss laughing or kms

etienne

damn im sorry that the Chapos didn't lay down a technically correct enough explanation of your pyramid scheme.

etienne

gm fren! wagmi! [jumps out of a window because my diversified portfolio of shitcoin has collapsed leaving me with 17 thousand dollars in credit card debt at 19.7% APR]

etienne

"Chill yourself and love everyone around you : )" - alternate reality Matt

etienne

what's the surface temperature of your couch? just curious

drunk cig

Digital is a song for true philosopher kingos

Yacobum

I am going to re-listen to Matt's and some of Felix parts in this episode 100x. That shit touched on some truths.

Gurjot

Go off Matt!

Daniel Montoya

great episode, the guest kind of sounds like badger from breaking bad lol

Knight Solaire

Tevinter time magic brought the boys back a year. Sadly they couldn’t warn the right people in time, and now we have more crypto MLMa.

Jacob Dysart

Great ep! I feel very validated that Matt’s rants synched up with some stuff I’ve been thinking about. Of course his spin on it was very dynamic and entertaining. Didn’t seem that depressing to me ultimately- more fun than anything

Behold 666

Matt Christman: for when your expert guest can't choke out a coherent sentence.

Yup

Love it when Matt goes full Grillstream

Colonel Sandurz

Had the same reaction to the Metaverse ad as Matt. Deeply disturbing.

Ben Burke

Was very sad about the Austin show selling out but now I have hope for the giveaway

Chad Dopamine

Where were going you won't need real apes...

B2B Commuter

In all fairness Mike, the version of himself that Carl Weathers played on arrested development would 1000% have an NFT and would be slanging Crypto all day.

Lauren Cabral

Wait for the show at the end is it only in person or a stream as well?

Blingo Starr

Fuck a kush bomb this ep was a kush thermonuclear ICBM

David Pan

The funny thing I learned from Detty was that the translation for Satoshi Nakamoto loosely translates to "central smart guy".

socialist heretic

so you believe they only have their friends on as guests?

T

Alternate reality Matt? Matt in the Metaverse after having been crushed into a cube IRL.

Matthew W. Solberg

these guys are absolutely gacked up. No judgment, but it’s stressful to listen to.

Matthew Black

Time Magazine hunting down ‘the real Satoshi Nakamoto’ is pretty great since the name is basically the Japanese equivalent of ‘Bob Johnson’

DJ B.

Why's everyone short of breath

DJ B.

^

Thom

Didn't Yanis Varoufakis get his start creating Team Fortress 2's hat system?

Reginaldkillington

Classic ep havnt seen this energy in awhile Matt just going off will never get old

godruler

This motherfucker said Ulster Protestantism hahahaha

Harper Big Spender Karabees

The Web3-Enlightened Are Getting Better at Comedy and the Luddite Left is Getting Scared: Here's How Brave Adam Skorupskas "Clapped Back" at the "Dirtbag Left!"

Starry Pr1nce

Nah it doesn't seem like Matt has thought about best case crypto yet, or the Cardano project for instance. Obv Will doesn't get it, and the guest thinks there's competitive advantage to skins??? A joke. The boys are millionaires so there's no magic beans for them. Like ofc the metaverse is speculative investment and stupid, it's separate from the layer 1 coins tho. Buy matic and avax now to set aside some funds for after you get canceled.

anthony potter

Rare miss by highlighting "gamers" as possible allies in the fight against crypto. "Gamers" who allow the Industry standard practice of launching broken games with pre-orders. Madden and fifa cards. Cyberpunk, fallout 76, battlefield 2042, etc.. Yeah "gamers have a track record of rewarding accountability. Hey I know a crackhead that has great investment advice.

Joedie Sawyer

Wow, completely depressing topic, I’m sitting in the bottom of a very dark well with no escape laughing right now.

Nobody

Crypto is a pyramid scheme

Taylor Fredrickson

"I don't need to know what a blockchain is to know it's bad." If you automatically assume anything is good or bad without knowing what it is you're being a fool.

Steve D

So happy to hear about John Candy.

Lulu

I listened to some of it when it first came out but I didn't fully pay attention so I've been meaning to listen again. Economics, tech, & crypto talk just scrambles my little bird brain.

Quincy Nguyen

I bought 2 last minute tickets for Dallas. Gonna bring a right winger and see how he reacts as a goof lmao

Andrew Cross

Matt is dropping some straight 🔥fiyah🔥 here, spitting bars

Cheddar Goblin

boys. we're all going to the moon at john candy coachella

Andrew Cross

matt spitting, felix riffing, will gasping

Andrew Cross

🏂❄️❄️☃️❄️⛷❄️❄️➡️👃

Garrett

Idk y they all live in LA now—I thought that would never happen. Big fan tho no shade

A RQ

Keep giving Cushbomb whatever experimental drug he was given before recording this. Felt like one of the early eps when the guys still put in any effort, just fantastic.

etienne

like at some point you guys are going to have to pivot away from crying and whining and pissing and shidding your pants about how no one understands crypto and thus aren't allowed to criticize it into an explanation of how it's good. Preferably an argument in favour that doesn't immediately fall apart after cursory look at how the crypto market works today and how it's evolved over the last decade.

etienne

it's cool how just about every source of info about anything online I read or consume at some point mentioned this video. My man Dan Olson really went and gone and done the final comprehensive documentary on cryptocurrency on a lark.

aida beats

run my beat tape staida.bandcamp.com thanks kings Also the guy in Penultimate truth who hordes all the fake organs from the people in the bunkers to use in his own body reminds me of elon musk

Null_null

Kinda wild how little guest knows about his own beat.

hamburglar

Surprised Felix missed the mark talking about Steam - which was the first “web 2.0” thing to happen to video games, and it was pretty controversial at the time because it was a huge shift toward not actually owning your games in a physical sense. Which is actually the whole underpinning of web 3

hamburglar

And to elaborate on that, the intent was to destroy the entire secondary market of selling/trading used games and renting games. They wanted to eliminate anything you can do with a game where they don’t get a cut of the action. It’s why you have to install 10 different bogus apps from the production companies to dole out your games on a pc

Bill

Holy shit Matt, fucking go off 👑

etienne

sounds like Chris put a really aggro compressor on Will's mic

Hector Jaime

Folks if you keep being mean to crypto bros, we will never get Medicare for all.

etienne

actually legit pissed that the guest didn't try to explain the Three Generals Problem. I think it would have been a riot

Thomas Reimer

Would you consider putting it out as a public service? There’s so much compelling(ly sad) info I think everyone should hear it.

etienne

honestly you should just link people to Folding Idea - Line Goes Up

Hector Jaime

I will check Line Goes Up! I’m enjoying The Scam Economy podcast so far, for an in-depth view of all the stuff only touched on a surface level here. Because primarily it’s fun to listen to Matt and Felix go off, I don’t expect them to get too into the weeds.

Ben L

Felix says up the ‘RA

kenton

wish they’d talk about Snowcrash

bruce

he's been really chipper this year. he said like maybe less than 3 sentences a pod toward the end of last year.

Jocelyn

Nice that they had mike on to let them know how clever their jack off takes are

Damen Irving

Cracking up at the idea of VC weirdos mining PKD novels for their next business model. Gotta laugh bc that’s literally what they’re doing, and if I didn’t laugh, I’d cry.

Kevin C

No no you miss understand its not Medicare for all its Metacare for all now

etienne

I'd like to see one artist just go like "Yeah I'm minting a NFT because you motherfuckers aren't paying me enough. Crypto sucks but I want to buy a house. "

Hector Jaime

Oh, that’s correct Kevin C. I’ve now started minting Blue Cross/Blue Shield cards as NFTs for sale in the Metaverse. Still haven’t gotten Delta Dental to buy in, but soon enough.

colin muller

I can just feel Matt seething when everyone is taking about gaming

Mike Wallace

So sad but have two tickets for Charlotte show turns out I can’t use - email soundsdrag@gmail.com

justdave

That Phillip K novel is great, but the 80's movie is fn dope- a young Raul Julia (He's so Handsome!)

Donald

Song at the end is fire

Isaac Jones

Sold too low on my S1mple PGL Krakow sticker in 2018, need to hang on to my Zywoo Stockholm gold to make sure it never happens again!

Ascetic Blur

Look when I sent that dick pic it wasn't being weirdly sexual it was an NFT of my junk.

Ian Woods

Others have mentioned it but ‘Line Goes Up - The Problem with NFTs’ is mandatory viewing. Dan Olsen has always been interesting, but the last few years the quality of his work has skyrocketed. Brilliant doc/essay - should be shown in schools

Matthew Azrieli

I really enjoy Felix’s take on the path from Ulster Protestantism (imo it’s predicated by Calvinism) into contemporary American capitalism. Funnily enough it’s also a big reactionary idea, but of course those guys unironically worship Elon Musk, so it’s kind of a moot point.

chris dray

i like isaac's contribution in this ep, but i was a little sad that it probably meant we're not gonna get olsen on the show

Cumshitter

I want some of their coke.