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631 - Uncut Hosts feat. Molly Lambert (5/26/22) (Patreon)

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2022-05-27 02:37:40
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We’re joined by Molly Lambert to discuss her new podcast HeidiWorld, the story of “Hollywood Madam” Heidi Fleiss. It’s a story that touches on celebrity, the cops, media show trials, and the porous boundaries between the sex trade and the entertainment industry, obviously a story with many current parallels. We also discuss the hosts’ dicks.

Find Heidiworld here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heidiworld-the-heidi-fleiss-story/id1615634639

And on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/HEIDIWORLD

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Dr Nermal Funkenstein

I watched The Goodfellas and The Sopranos so I could understand all of the references

vermouth

Thought this ep was gonna be bad but its really good hell yeah

Jon W

NewAnon

Kenneth Smith

I’m very happy to know the chapo circumcision status, thank you molly

Hugo

Kinda gross to hear the guest stan a literal pimp/sex trafficker

Beehive Fucker

we love to think about our podcast hosts dicks, don't we folks? we're very strongly looking into their circumcision status .

Kenneth Smith

Holy shit the first girl guest!!!

H G

guest has a very pretty voice -- I wish her all success!

T.A. Martin

Will talks about VH1 in the 00s being the absolute rock bottom of humanity. My favorite example came from Flava of Love when one of the contestants got so wasted she took a dump on the stairs of the group house. Later at the elimination ceremony (yeah, I know,) another woman was let go because she was actually nastier than a woman who dropped a hot one on camera.

P$

I was at a bar in Malibu two years ago and Ray Liotta sat next to me. I saw him and made a stunned face just because I had had a few and wasn’t expecting Ray Liotta to sit next to me. He immediately started yelling, “what the fuck do you want kid?” He was so belligerent and drunk the bartenders made him leave. He was the biggest dick I have ever met in terms of celebrities😂

cwen

Omg replace Will with Molly

Joe

Loved this far more than I thought I would by reading the synopsis. Chapo keeping it strong well into 2022.

Andrew Cross

Will get a better XLR cable bro

Wilko

Not sure if that bit at the end is valid. Asking people if they feel like they're being exploited is not going to determine if they're being exploited or not. Wage labor is exploitative, whether the people doing it realize it or not. Most don't. And that's one of the main issues, why we don't have class consciousness.

Alexandr

First? In a while, sure, but remember back in the early episodes? And Liz Bruenig?

Hudson

Sorry Hollywood babe, accusing someone of spousal abuse when you are in fact the abuser is a slightly more egregious offense than simply "trying to get one over" them that's at least 10,000 yikes from me

BigBoto

Anteaters ftw!

grimbo

Seems OK to me

prolet1312

Wtf is this reasoning, saying that women are abused in all jobs is probably true, but there is definitely a lot less human trafficking involved when working as a cashier compared to working in the porn/sex industry

John Carter

Congrats for starring in a real life Scorsese film. True movie mindset moment.

Aaron Baer

Concern trolling is liberal virtue signaling for simps ... Legalize pussy and let them drive down the cost for regular dudes who don't have to pay for it ... The technology is already here; why are the monopolists the only ones to profit. Her and observation about Zuckerberg and Instagram is spot on.

Ian Priest

Brb gonna upload the foreskin stats to the fan wiki

christoph.s

What a great guest! Please have Molly Lambert on more often! Here voice is very pleasant she is a great speaker and has great chemistry with our boys.

Doug Cartel

I would say that they at least prevented other parents from dying in the gunfire, but who knows if they even were intending to do that, fuck me

Robert Theragene

This was a great episode, only thing is Molly's take on the Heard v Depp trial was a bit wild.

Andrew

This is so much better than any pleasant interaction you could have had with him

George Lochinski

Not even that long ago. There was one on the Bulworth ep

Dyyyyylan

Wow, quite a reveal that Felix and Matt are on the call.

justdave

Women who think of sex as a job are really gross, as a penissied American, that's my job

justdave

Also, I drive by the bunny ranch outside Carson city nv everyday on my way to work, it's next to a bus stop, for school, a school bus stops right across the street is what I'm sayin

justdave

There's a fukn child crossing sign

Mark Schneider

Why no class consciousness? My wild guess, 4 decades of wall-to-wall MSM and media peddling of NeoLib TINA "you are nothing but a tool of your betters" mentality? I know, wild conspiracy thinking, right . . . maybe the Birchers had the real insight and it was flouride in the water?

justdave

Prostitution is a capitalist identity, that's why it's easy to be disturbed by it, 'its my job' is short hand for 'what ya gonna do in this world if you weren't made fer workin, aaand your fingers are slender and frail? Eyea eye ahhh' -WZ

vermouth

That was henry hill dude

Chris Dobson

Loved Molly since the Mad Men recaps on Grantland, great episode!

IHaveHemorrhoids

Absolutely, Will. The opening scene in Goodfellas has diamond clarity in my memory and changed my idea of art in general as a budding 13 year old. Ray was an outstanding actor Great episode. Long live Heidi

Matthew

good shit 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

dshamz_

Honestly she just sounds like a capitalist appropriating the surplus produced by sex workers?

Noah Mickens

"Is there anything that will make people take to the streets again?" (unspoken qualifier - "Not me of course - other people.")

Ben M

would love to hear this guests take on girlboss ghislaine

vermouth

Doesnt make the tale uninteresting tho

Lawson

Interesting story but this woman has some wild takes on pretty much everything she says.

Zarathushtra

This whole episode is cheering on a capitalist exploiting vulnerable young girls because she's a master manipulator. It's not like she collectivsed and empowered sex workers, she just used them to enrich herself. Being an exploitative abuser is bad whether it's a man or woman doing it.

dshamz_

No, but the implication was that women in positions of power in the industry make it more progressive. Women are in positions of power in plenty of industries, none of which are more friendly to women or people in general as a result. The idea that challenging the ‘old white man’s club’ is progressive is an idea that belongs in the dustbin of history, given the recent history of capitalism. Diversifying the ruling classes doesn’t do anything. This is just liberalism.

Adam B

Pimps are bad actually

Yeahman

I was stuck in a trailer in a town of 600 with no internet, no cable, bad cell reception, no car, no friends and nothing but a roommate I hated and 6 bootleg dvds. I stayed in my room and watched goodfellas sometimes twice a day. There's no telling how many times I seen it and can watch it again any time. Rip Ray Liotta

Adam B

It’s wild how many Leftists completely abandon any anti-capitalist position when it come to the sex industry. These guys correctly make fun of girl-boss, woke, liberal feminism but completely embrace it if the girl-boss is a pimp. Funny how anyone who is saying “sex-worker” the loudest ends up just doing class-collaborationism. Fuck this episode.

Lawson

Perfect breakdown of this bs episode.

Chinaman Jones

Sex work is work which is why it is bad not because of the sex part

Daniel

A lot of female-led sex talk in this one fellas… forecasting the comment section to continue devolving into nonsense Good Ep 👍 Not sure why people seem to think anyone on the show is endorsing this heidi lady. Its ok sometimes to examine a thing just to have the main takeaway ‘damn that’s crazy’

Basil

Lol an amber heard truther femcel in the wild!

William

They think that because they're baby brain moron libs who think people need to hear the nice words and the good talk or else they're going to turn evil. Much like Joe Biden thought with his record player memories, we are all products of what we hear with no critical thought capacity whatsoever

Animals in Motion

I don't get this new fangled hyping up of "sex work", either. It's not a sexy glamorous job. People shouldn't be shamed for having done it to get by, and maybe you're not permanently broken by it, but it sure does harm a lot of people. It's a dangerous job, with tons of violence surrounding it. There's a reason why it's stigmatized, and it's not only because society is "oppressive". As with any stigma, there's of course TONS of hypocrisy about it – assholes who rail against "whores" and "pimps" while buying sexual favors etc.

Basil

Is she a "big haired jewish girl"? Thats what matters!

Matthew Waterman

Lol “women and minorities are in charge of the porn industry now, so it’s progressive” what the fuck? Have you seen porn lately? It’s still like 80% videos like “stepdad rapes black girl and she loves it.” Love how the most privileged layer of women in the sex industry appoint themselves as spokespeople for everyone! it’s totally normal and even kind of woke that capitalism relegates a certain class of women to selling sex for survival. Especially now that it’s “controlled by women and minorities”! So leftist!

Ben M

sounds like a misogynist hating on a quirky entrepreneurial woman

Matthew Waterman

Is there any other industry where someone who speaks at industry conferences about how progressive the industry is and how well they supposedly treat the workers would be invited onto a leftist podcast to kiss said industry’s ass?

Recursive Audio

Think you might be telling on yourself just a bit with your porn expertise.

dshamz_

Honestly sounds like you’re the liberal Garth.

dshamz_

People think it’s an endorsement because the guest on the podcast argues that it’s progressive

dshamz_

Asking people if they feel exploited at an industry conference, surrounded by their higher-ups no less

Christopher Price

Good god. Too many on here are lacking a female friend who also has sex. Don't even have to talk about sex with them, but it's so obvious that too many here can't handle that agency, much less a honest conversation about sex work. Second, a lot of cop cope in the comments, even if it's not explicit. Because

Christopher Price

Because the inciting incident of the ep, so to speak, is that cops are cowardly bastards who love not defending kids and love beating down sex workers. If you're on the side of criminalizing sex work, you're also on the side of the pigs, and there's nothing as maidenless as a pig.

Dick Van Sexel

Didnt big red sun have an interview with buttman?

etienne

there should be an arm of the government that performs a fair repartition of sex resources and compensates the workers appropriately while protecting them

Jimmy McMillan

I'm pro sex worker but pimps and Madams are management. Small businesses tyrants

Adam B

Just be consistently anti-capitalist. Like if there were sex-worker organizing but only raised demands that legitimized the industry itself, then that would be business unionism in any other context. So if sex-work is work like any other then that is implying there’s a boss appropriating worker labor. During this episode they conflated being a pimp and being a sexworker, which is just not how the Left should talk about any capitalist industry.

William

I had absolutely no issue listening to this. Comments prove most Chapo listeners would absolutely suck at building any kind of movement or finding any kind of common ground if they thought THAT was offensive

William

Oh yes, I trust you to know the situation of sex workers better than she would. I don't even have to think critically about anything

Matthew Waterman

But that’s exactly the problem William. You’re the one implicitly saying you don’t have to think critically because you can trust someone who “represents” a marginalized group. If you believe in that kind of rigid standpoint epistemology, it doesn’t even make sense on its own terms. The average woman or girl or person in the sex industry does not speak on panels at the Xbiz conference or make quirky podcasts or write medium posts. But the few who do are awarded the mantle of “authenticity” by this whole “sex work is empowering and just a choice that women like to make” fad that has taken over the Western middle class left. Millions of other sex workers or prostituted/trafficked people around the world, who absolutely do deserve respect and should live completely free from police harassment, recognize the exploitative nature of the industry that they are in, and don’t feel “empowered” by choices that were usually a last resort (and sometimes not even choices). At the end of the day you gotta put on your big boy pants and actually learn about an issue and think for yourself, not just pick a handful of “authentic voices” who claim to speak for some marginalized group. I could just as easily link you to an article by a sex worker who agrees with me and say “I trust her more than you.”

Matthew Waterman

I didn’t see anyone here arguing in favor of cops arresting or harassing sex workers. I see people taking issue with the guest whitewashing hyperexploitative industries using radlib talking points.

Adam B

Movement of what? Sex entrepreneurs? Yea, not for me.

justdave

I'm in. Do I have to do anal?

justdave

Wait, if Felix is circumcised does that mean I have to be?

justdave

I'm kiddin, already done #noregrets

Michael Landreth

You’re saying the legal prohibition of sex work not only unnecessarily limits the options for economic and bodily autonomy that consensual sex workers could enjoy in a legalized environment, but also keeping it illegal apparently fails to prevent sex trafficking in any meaningful way? Good point…

S Agsar

Yeah man, a lot of misogynistic sex-scold incels making a lot of sus comments like "being a pimp is bad" and "coercing women into working in the sex trade is bad" and "being best buddies and business partners with two of the most heinous sex abusers on the planet (Dennis Hof and Ron Jeremy) is bad"...

etienne

im against weed legalization because who's gonna sell me legal weed? fucking entrepreneurs? nooooo thanks.

Adam B

Just apply a class analysis to the sex industry. You know the labor theory of value thing? How is just pointing out that a pimp is a capitalist misogynist? If anyone would point out the exploitation at McDonald’s, I wouldn’t expect anyone here to be like “why do you hate fast food workers?”

etienne

the chapos are *constantly* joking about Rod Dreher mysteriously stumbling on bimboification hypno transgender porn and yet you have the gall to come here and tell us that the porn you watch is racist rape fantasy. phenomenal

etienne

so William what is the specific thing you have an issue with. Sex work legalization in the first place, or how it's being presented on the underground podcast you listen to?

William

Lol the best part about your big speech and your complaining is that you and everybody else who is doing so keeps hearing some argument completely different from what I or everyone else seems to have heard. Molly said something to the effect that porn is becoming more progressive. I hear that and let it wash over me because this is a fucking Chapo trap house episode, not a science periodical or a dissertation defense. If I think about it more, I'd probably say, "compared to what?" You on the other hand, have already decided what "progressive" means and decided that anyone who doesn't critique what you disapprove of in the exact way you demand is "problematic". Then, it's off to the races where you do your darndest to moralize to people about how "we're not taking it seriously" and "do you have any idea how bad things are?" Yes, I have a great idea about how shitty and terrible things are. Probably a lot better of one than a dipshit article boy like yourself. But you know what? I dont know who you are and ultimately I don't care. The funniest part is that throughout your reply you jump to further and further assumptions of what "I think", one of those being that, I decided Molly spoke for all sex workers when she described their working conditions. But if I listened to you, I'd still be listening to some random asshole claiming to speak for a marginalized group, and not even an "authentic voice" at that. Just some pindick moralizing to me so they can feel better about themselves for "taking this seriously" when what all the rest of us wanted to do was just listen to a fucking podcast

Romulus V. Snakehead

What's the going rate for showing feet? I'll step on whatever snd whoever those freaks want, but I better be getting points on the back end.

Jacob Dickey

I mean not necessarily. Like she compared her to Henry Hill from Goodfellas. I think the thread to her point is that she’s an anti-hero figure for trying to make it in a system stacked against women and was made an example of when really what she was doing was only (at-worst) as bad as what tons of male capitalists in her industry were doing. Underdogs and crime can make for good stories.

UV BLUEMAN

Hey, last I checked, pimps are bosses that exploit sex workers, and not somebody you should be lionizing you shit-for-brains

Tam Mansilver

Lol at calling a woman who directly exploited her employees’ bodies and labor “the coolest woman in the world” on a leftist podcast

AbeLinkin

I am a little dingus

Daniel White

I wonder what Albert Hoffman would say from beyond the veil about said theory of CIA inventing LSD

Ben

You know people can engage in those types of scenes consensually. That stuff isn't my cup of tea. But if people are into that kind of kink its not for me to judge.

bray

how embarrassing to have this kind of conversation on the sex trade in 2022. foolishly hoped you guys were above this liberal bullshit

BORN2DIE

yes - we need more Felix shaming

ihavecancerjk

this show just keeps getting cringer

etienne

yeah when I see consensual nonconsent fetishists going off online I usually want to murder them

etienne

funny how people think about legal and illegal industries in a *completely* different manner because in the latter case you can just point at it and say "nationalize/unionize this, now it's good" versus in the other case it's like. mhh. what are you gonna do. you can't nationalize or unionize a bunch of guys and gals milling around on a street corner. are you going to start the Federal Department of Extremely Fun Things To Do? Hire civil servants to give drugs and blowjobs to people? Or are you going to legalize it and just let the private market do the thing? Here in quebec we have a government-owned gadget that sells people weed. No one bats an eye. Would it go the same way if the feds decided to legalize sex work and the province went with the same model? the Société Québécois du Getting Your Dick Sucked? For some reason I get the impression it would be more fraught

Michael

When you say gadget do you mean a vending machine or are you talking about an app?

etienne

i mean gadget in the most generic sense of thing that does a thing. I forgot what's the exact legal structure of what SQDC is. It's a legal gadget. A thingamabob. edit i mean its a chain of goverment-owned weed stores

emalco

I’m a woman and I thought this episode was terrible for all the reasons these commenters are laying out. I usually love Chapo but not this one

Ian Woods

lol @ ‘Fleiss was a talker, could convince anyone to do things for her’. Like put themselves in physical danger, handover the lion’s share of their pay to their manager, risk life altering legal trouble, etc. Agree her story is interesting and should be told; but she’s a ‘net harm’ type. And what a Heard take, mein Gott.

Ian Woods

Fungi didn’t exist until 1965. Nowhere, ever.

justdave

I hope he finally gets me tooed

Shawn Gilmore

Great episode. I do love however that we can say with confidence that everything the police does is pointless, but there’s no opinion on whether parenting with guidelines and structures does anything.

Diokles

This was a great episode, a stroll down memory lane. Don't pay attention to the Puritans on here.

Emily Oliver

How was she more exploitative than any other employer in a capitalist system?

Emily Oliver

This is the only comment on here that makes sense

MKatieUltra

Tom Sizemore creeped me out ever since Strange Days and Natural Born Killers, excited to hear what Felix does with that.

Ken’s mom

Many very weird and stupid things to be heard by this guest.

dshamz_

It felt weirdly anachronistic.

Clint Pelvis

if u dont like the shitty audio u arent a real grey wolf dirtbag hellworld 🐺

Clint Pelvis

in retrospect i guess this ep was garbage?

Aaron Baer

Love your slop piggy and grovel for more like the for legged animal you are !!!

Breakaway

I don’t think the OLF would allow that name. Perhaps Bureau National des Pipes?

etienne

the goverment fucks you every year, so why not fuck [an employee of an agency of] the goverment back for once!

Memory Erasing

really good episode but let's just say i'm looking far more forward to the trueanon episode on uvalde 👁️

anthony potter

Chapo has been on this uncut penis trip for a minute. Stop crying about it, it kinda of creepy.

UV BLUEMAN

Thinking pimps who exploit actual sex workers are bad makes you a puritan?

UV BLUEMAN

Aside from the general fuckery unique to the sex industry- She's not, that's the point. If you're actually anti-capitalist, she's still a boss and therefore the enemy. Excusing her because she happened to be involved in the sex industry is bizzare.

BigBoto

Do you have any idea how expensive lube is?

Chuck R

I usually don’t care about people’s opinions on Hollywood bullshit, but it’s amazing that this woman holds the two worst celebrity gossip opinions one can have in 2022 (that Heard is the real victim and that Will Smith was justified in his slap/any criticism of it is “psychotically racist”)

The Children of Jack Acid

This show has also declared Jeff Jacoby, Sebastian Gorka, Allen Dulles, Pete Buttigieg, Tom Clancy, George H.R. Bush, Ben Shapiro, Michael Sussmann, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and many more to be not only "awesome" but even "so fucking cool." I have a theory that this is a comedic show and that they are just having a good time talking, not literally saying that Heidi Fleiss is a good person. If you listen to the show a little more, you'll hear that they also call Fleiss a grifter, a bullshitter, a spoiled upper-middle-class girl who wasn't cool enough to be popular, etc, etc. Like with her discussion about Amber Heard, Lambert's fascination with Fleiss is not that she's a saint or a class warrior--she knows and says that she's a bad person. Her point is that the narrative around Fleiss from the press, the police, and people like yourself quickly turned almost TOTALLY negative in a way that wouldn't happen to a man in a similar position, and which elides the fact that as long as sex has to be a business, women tend to run it far better than men.

Alexandr

So is anyone going to post the fucking episode that should've been out yesterday or

Gulb

It makes you simple minded

Gulb

She's thinking of the fact that many of the biggest proponents of LSD were introduced to it through CIA funded university research programs

Talcum Gladwell

Not nearly as creepy as chopping up a little off the top of baby dicks

anthony potter

If you choose not to cut your child, then great. No need to inform the rest of society. BTW, it is creepier if you have really strong feeling about this subject and ur not cut.

J.P. McD.

Glad to see the whiners are back at it again in the Patreon comments attempting to hold our boys and their guests accountable

J.P. McD.

next are you gonna say they aren’t taking Jan 6th seriously enough?

The Children of Jack Acid

Thinking that this show applauds Heidi Fleiss' business practices because they talked about it makes you a puritan.

aida beats

Yeeesss, FUCK Dr. Drew

J.P. McD.

Who the fuck cares? It’s a story on a podcast.

Jocelyn

lol i agree but the chapo boys have pretty much said this

ac1dP1nk

It's weird to return to the issue of the cultural doctrine of child mutilation

ac1dP1nk

A govt helping sexworkers unionise or better yet forming a cooperative would be straightforward

ac1dP1nk

Depends. if they are like an agent with body guard qualities that's ok

etienne

yeah I think that'd be ideal, all things being equal, it's just that the optics would be a bit difficult

barry

Hilarious how many people in these comments fell for the Ben Shapino Depp propaganda. Congrats, youre as smart as the average TikTok clout demon