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654 - Tossin’ the Pigskin feat. The Trillbillies (8/15/22) (Patreon)

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2022-08-16 02:23:58
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2026-06

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We discuss the equal parts terrifying and stupid possibility that Trump or an associate actually tried to sell nuclear secrets to the Saudis, and all the insane ramifications for domestic and world politics. Then, we’re joined by Tom and Tarence of the Trillbillies to talk about the recent catastrophic flooding in Kentucky, and how the years of government neglect and industrial mining in the region have exacerbated the disaster. Also, prayers up for our boy Salman Rushdie.

Link to the disaster relief mutual aid mentioned in the ep: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeAMXIPoChrCeYk7aMlsa0MuHFguB5CM1Gm-H8zJlYUCcllmw/viewform?fbclid=IwAR1bciEajmf80sYbS8mLDOmSZRk6tEBo1j4_cslNDP2Sggf1DkLekzdLhWU&fs=e&s=cl

Tarence’s piece in the Baffler on the flood: https://thebaffler.com/latest/flooding-in-the-sacrifice-zone-ray

Dates + Tickets for our fall tour here: https://www.chapotraphouse.com/live

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Isaac Jones

They're his secrets, he's allowed to sell them

Baron

Looking forward to the Syricization of America thanks to climate disasters and austerity lfg

TCE

I should've known the raid was about Trump selling nuclear secrets or something equally major the second Chapo released an episode saying it was probably nothing. Love the show but their timing is legendary off on this kind of thing.

Bill

Hell yeah Trillbillies ep

Kenneth Smith

Every time chapo and Trillbillys combine forces it’s great

Brad Gosser

Thanks for bringing attention to what's going on in our state. Maybe things are finally bad enough to start getting better, but this isn't the first time I've thought that.

Andrew Carmichael

The Chapo boys downplayed everything that Trump did. And mostly for good reason. But their take about how bad this is, stands out as actually alarming.

Andrew Carmichael

Peggy Noonan has infiltrated Will’s mind palace. “Burbling…” @ 9:34

M.R. Alchemist

The idea of the hamburger army doing mass suicide by cop... oh meine liebe

M.R. Alchemist

god I hope they off bolton fucking creep he deserves the drill bit

anthony potter

Is 1st segment a bit? The house 180 on doj/deep state moves. Now you want him executed. Now. Because Trump may have slipped SA some nuclear tips. Wow really shocked. I guess they set they bar high. This is a 1st.

Shiv

Homies from the Holler hell yeah

A Kalman

I just like to listen to that asshole Tom talk.. all my money goin to the WK mutual aid groups

Dan

He will ya?

Jacob Curley

“Merging with soda” is the most powerful concept I’ve heard in a very long time

Regan

Hans Zimmer playing in this dude's head as he bleeds out in a corn field

Alex Gullen

Based Jesus in the corn field with a nail gun. Absolutely fucking hilarious guys 😂🤣😂

Ricky

good ep. important topic

anthony potter

Actually, I made this before finishing segment. Adjust Tone by 30 percent. My bar was much lower.

Gengeros

“McGarther was the greatest naval general we had ever had, when he stepped on the beaches of Normandy and said ‘I have returned’ was the greatest moment in history”

JV

bit about the guy running into the corn field had my laughing hysterically out loud on the packed train into work

SF

what

JV

a shia guy who was barely even born back when the fatwa was *lifted* back in the late 90s would suddenly do this 1) in the final stages of the iranian nuclear deal 2) about a month out from a potential new confrontation between hezbollah and israel over israel's planned looting of lebanon's maritime natural gas. CIA / FBI have done this kind of thing enough times *as you talk about on this podcast* for this timing to at least make you say "hmm"

BigBoto

Love the pic they used for this episode. Of course the meathead who carries the nuclear football wears a digital G-SHOCK Timex like a true douchebag

William

Both of these comments are pretty stupid. Nothing changes for you if you learn the semi funny current events podcast you listen to is slightly off in their "analysis". You're just acting like they told you the wrong answer for question 7 on the test. Oh no! What horrors!

William

Great interview - proof again that will is a good interviewer, but also how good interviews can be with good guests. Having listened to Tom and Tarence over the last few weeks, they seem remarkably composed compared to how things were previously. Probably understated how coal country is on the bleeding edge of what's in store for all of us under capitalism. They will keep taking stuff and selling it until they've traded everything they can for people's money. If it hasn't happened to you, yet, that's because you're somewhere on the list of 'audiences' or 'markets' that will be targeted next. "First they sold them the iPhone, but I did not care, because I was an android user"

William

@Dan, are you just here to be a grammar cunt? Or are you really unable to guess at what he means

Matelda

Why would FEMA become the concentration camp gestapo rather than the actual current police/guards/patrols of the biggest prison system in human history? I wonder what it's like to be infected with chud brain

Beehive Fucker

I'm over here hooting and hollering at "oops all cousins"

Clean Shirt Piggie

Damn Pickathon and Ralph Stanley. Chapo go on tour with Greensky Bluegrass

Zach B

any links to give directly to their aid fund?

Budget Hireling

The continuing saga of Felix and Dirlewanger/DerWilliger

Evan Scott

the local PSL chapter where i live set up a free food distribution network during the pandemic

Doug Cartel

I was literally reminiscing the other day about how some dork at mar a lago took a photo of the dude who walks around with the football, weird

Evan Scott

"every time in the past it's turned out to be nothing consequential, but it's still dumb to assume it's nothing consequential and then change your mind when you see evidence to the contrary"

Alex Gullen

AR’s are a major feature of the system now that we are in abrupt irreversible climate change. Impacting PNW, Arctic (summit of GIS), Antarctica (English Coast, Peninsula) and elsewhere. For every 1x increase in lower troposphere you have 7% extra moisture (>10% now). Tonga eruption also put vast additional moisture into the lower atmos. Good explan here: https://youtu.be/OxA26VrnGMs

Alex Gullen

1 degree c increase = 7% > moisture

Alex Gullen

Also consider the flood story. This traces back to the epic of Gilgamesh and the 'Vulture Stone' No. 43 at Göbekli Tepe, rippling forwards with the latest iteration being the fable of Noah's ark (with a lot in between). ‘The god Errakal was uprooting the mooring poles, Ninurta, passing by, made the weirs overflow. The Anunnaki gods carried torches of fire, scorching the country with brilliant flashes. ‘The stillness of the Storm God passed over the sky, and all that was bright then turned into darkness. Source: Gilgamesh XI 101-6, The onset of the deluge This is a good description of what likely happened during the Younger Dryas cosmic impacts, as meteors from the tail-end debris of the Taurids belt (which earth still crosses twice yearly), smashed into the great ice sheets of the northern hemisphere, vaporizing ice, flooding the hemisphere and drastically rising sea levels, scouring the surface of earth, kicking water vapor and dust up into the skies blocking out the sun and bringing on long lasting rainfall and a severe stadial (cooling event) from mass influx of ice into the northern oceans.

Alex Gullen

Thwaites now expected to calve off within 5 years (= around 1.5 -3m additional SLR, depending on how much of surrounding embayment area goes too, Pine Island etc). Greenland Ice Shelf, will also likely calve, either partial or completely way ahead of expectations (already AR’s on the summit with multiple other acting feedbacks, beyond technical physical stability but for AME and ice hysteresis). That’s up to another 6m additional SLR, plus end of most N hemisphere agriculture. More of a melt water seep 1b than the ‘pulse’ which Gilgamesh refers to…

Brendan A. MacWade

The tone from the national security guardians (like John Bolton) is that Trump must be prosecuted, or else the US empire will be weakened. It’s interesting. The old men in charge were willing to give Trump a pass for literally everything else, up to and including shooting us on Fifth Avenue. But theft of top secret documents and lying about their whereabouts is unforgivable. This is because the US is still an empire (albeit, a crumbling one), and imperial interests will always trump crimes against “freedom” and “democracy.” It’s so telling of who we are. Trump is going down. And fast. I have no idea why the fuck he did that. And I don't fucking care. He's fucked.

Matthew Born

See, I just thought trump was keeping all his crisp commemorative Burger King Crowns from his time in office. This changes things…

Peter Kiedrowski

I work for FEMA (public assistance) and have seen it all. I’ll be writing a screenplay on the buffoonery, incompetence and corruption of our favorite well-intentioned bureaucracy.

Erik Amundsen

It's a lost cause, man. Let people just pronounce it the way they do.

Anders Olsson

Subscribe to the Trillbillies' patreon. It's fucking great.

I Let the Dogs Out. Me, Me, Me, Me.

We all know if there was anyone in a position to assassinate Hitler, it was those closest to him like Minister of Posts, Joseph Boebbels.

Dan

Can you guys address how much the left is kinda giving up this election cycle? I mean wtf Omar almost lost?

Matthew Born

Massive amounts of AIPAC money spent against her. Glad she pulled it out.

Michael

People were taking selfies with the guy carrying the nuclear football at Mar a Logo.

Chris Hildreth

FEMA camps? Rest assured, the last thing fema is going to do is provide shelter. God fucking bless those boys. Go subscribe to them.

Suckinonachilidawg

The destruction of the Los Angeles basin by flood is one of the disasters in “The Ministry for the Future”. Cool read.

TangiePower

We love the Trillbillies! Thanks for having them on to talk about this, it’s already completely fell out of the national news already.

SF

what

SF

Great chapter, great book, great novelist.

TCE

She had barely any AIPC money against her. Tlaib had a ton, Andy Levin, who lost, had a ton, but AIPC mostly stayed away from her district. She got caught sleeping and should make sure it doesn't happen again, because next time AIPAC's gonna be there with a vengeance

Christopher Baker

It disgusts me that American taxpayers paid to keep Rushdie alive. Iran didn’t go far enough. The world would be a better place if a fatwa was issued for crimes against literature.

GueritoDeLaBahia

“LT., the entire city is flooded” LT: cocks AR-15 We ain’t letting no pill heads get an extra fema blanket.

Sam

Lol you quoted Ken Fucking Danlian as a source. Come on.

Of course

So, the story is: Trump/Kushner sold nuclear codes to Saudi leaders. Which is bad because that could start WWIII. Ok, but how's that objectively worse than arms-money-fueled pols pouring weapons into the Ukraine and Taiwan province to play nuclear chicken with Russia and China? Especially since, as Chapo seemed to figure, the Trump-Saudi scenario was likely a deep state conjured and supervised sting/media-farce. Whatever,... it seems that any mushroom cloud in our future will be brought to you by the almighty dollar.

Gordon Schmidt

It's totally possible that there have been honeypot attempts on Rushdie's life and he just seduced them to the point where they couldn't go through with it

Clean Shirt Piggie

Will dropped a couple new kleerrs later on. He knows

J.P. McD.

Was hoping one of your piggies was going to get mad again about them mentioning Hasan (“a lib”) but I guess you all put your money where your mouth was and boycotted. Good for you.

AbeLinkin

Sad to be reminded at times that Will comes from NYT influences and general hoighty toitiness that is the Manhattan lifestyle. Doubly surprised that he’s the one who says nuke-you-ler instead of new-clear. Then calling for Donny’s execution by the deep state like some gosh darned Russiagate Neolib. I know I’m psycho but come on, Will! This man needs to leave New York for a minimum 5 year sentence.

J P 3

Selling nuclear weapons technology to the Saudi dictatorship is exponentially more troubling than providing second and third tier weapons systems to Ukraine and Taiwan in their own defensive fights against imperial domination. In the case of second and third tier weapons systems, it is possible to see how these might contribute to broader conflict or a nuclear exchange as part of a sequence of 4 or 5 other escalatory steps. However, there is no case where giving Saudi Arabia nuclear technology for weapons would produce any kind of a positive result. Even strictly from the point of view of national interest, it is hard to see any scenario where MBS getting nuclear weapons results in a good outcome. Even purely in terms of capitalist imperatives, it is hard to square the proliferation of nuclear weapons with capital accumulation and profit maximization. As far as future mushroom cloud go, it is pretty clear that there are multiple of other likely catalysts -- including nuclear accidents -- that should be accounted for. Proliferation doesn't help on that score either.

Alex Gullen

All this rain everywhere and yet…

Alex Gullen

2 BILLION PEOPLE LOSE THEIR WATER SUPPLY AT 2C BY 2050 Research projects total collapse for central Asia and Afghanistan and a near-total collapse for Northern India, Kashmir and Pakistan of the Tibetan plateau water storage, by the middle of the century at 2C global warming. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-022-01443-0 A most terrible crime against humanity by the refusal to end fossil fuels for the clean renewable energy world economy.

Of course

Felix referencing Space Invaders, a game I actually know about, was the moment I knew Chapo cared for me.

Of course

The idea that Trump actually had access to anything nuclear and then, with his son-in-law, secretly masterminded a sale of actual codes or technology to anyone... and then working yourself into a lather to the point of "well, that does it, he's crossed the line: execute him!"... is pure movie mindset. Matt had the sense to pull back a bit to conclude that it's gotcha theater to restore popular legitimacy for capitalist state institutions. The Saudi-goes-nuclear + Rushdie-stabbing means that "the Islamics are at it again"... and we're back to the Western Crusade of Civilization.

AbeLinkin

A gentleman farmer in the foothills of the Catskills or Green Mountains of Vermont would do him good. Coincidentally the exact thing I’m looking for. Time to go for a walk.

teacup

Gotta throw in a reference for the Normies once in a while

Zach Lemon

That Cincinnati shooter graduated from my high school in Perry County Pennsylvania from what I heard. As a native, I see why he was drawn to the cornfield.

Zach Lemon

Just double checked. Yep, a Perry County native according to the AP. I hear the banjos and cries of "Git 'em boys!!!"

blackFFillip

Spicy take right here, tell me more

orc

Going mueller mode I see

Michael Ehrenreich

Personally I think it’s good when trump gets humiliated or faces any consequences at all

Christopher Baker

All I’m saying is if the Ayatollah issued a fatwa in support of Scorsese’s understanding of Marvel movies I might convert.

calvin kilby

Funniest episode I've heard in a while not counting all the horrible flooding news

DaddyB

fucking coughed after laughing and almost crashed my car thanks

Jacob Curley

The War on Terror is at home now dude. You can’t unring that bell by perforating an author exactly one person cared about and kicking around one big beautiful boy with an army of supporters who say they’re anti-interventionists now anyway.

Sam

This is absolutely correct. Bizarre the twist this show took. Really since Russia/Ukraine. Just awful op Ed level analysis of actual geopolitics.

Sam

Don’t exactly get what you’re saying. Ken Danlian was fired from the LA times for being an actual cia agent lol. He prints wild dumb shit all of the time and this is chapos “source” for this? Wild.