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655 - In Too Deep feat. Aaron Good (8/18/22) (Patreon)

Published:
2022-08-19 03:38:12
Edited:
2022-08-19 03:49:48
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2026-06

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The boys discuss Liz Cheney’s loss in the Wyoming GOP primary, along with some other potential GOP losers. And speaking of, we’ve got all the hot gossip from the other Kushbomb, Jared Kushner’s 500+ page memoir on his time in the white house.

Then, we’re joined by author Aaron Good to discuss his new book American Exception and one of our favorite topics, America’s criminal, unaccountable, Deep State.

All things American Exception at: https://americanexception.com/

New merch store! Tons of hot new merch! Get it, wear it, do NOT answer anyone’s questions about it: https://chapotraphouse.shop/

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CJ

We love Aaron and we love his book, don’t we folks?

Baron

Aaron’s not good, he’s great!

Ben

Wisconsin? This is a real fedora moment boys

Chris W

What is this? A podcast for ants?

chapotraphouse

fixed, Matt does invoke Wisconsin moments after the segment.

Bob Duvall

We all saw you show your ass. In fact, just change it back.

SP

Normal white people

pq

Aaron!

Tom Joad

Some would say Aaron is tremendous.

Michael S. Judge

Kushner sounds remarkably like Jodie Foster in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Ben

Your sins will not soon be forgotten, atonement will only be realized through a review of Daily Wire+ kontent

Jared

They try to knock him down, but then list nothing but Ws. Rack another one up for the Dark Mechanic!

Brendan Garcia

Love it when Aaron does impressions. 👑

Kenneth Smith

Don’t wanna complain about good slop but I wish they could have all the hosts there for interviews :/

Front Dogs Go To Heaven

Can I get a lore check on the anti-adhd task force? Specific joke or just the regular adderall/vyvanse stuff

kallampero

Is the merch still union made?

DRV

Obama told Yanis Varoufakis similarly that his hands on policy were tied and he had no choice but to play ball and buy out the banks

Dani

For some reason when I pressed play instead of the episode a best of Lucille Bluth compilation on another tab started and I didn’t notice anything was wrong for like 45 seconds

gumb0

can I bet on elections in US yet?

BigBoto

Describing thin Irish people as "banshee Irish" has killed me, thanks Matt!

Ascetic Blur

Steve Bannon may appear like a walking ashtray but he gets up in the morning, drinks 3 pints of tequila and eats raw swine intestines like everyone else.

justdave

Kelly mousing around the white house through a series of secret doors, dumb waiters and false paintings listening to conversations- really reminds me of Lavrentiy Beriya- Stalin's bag man. Goddamn is Trump Stalin? I think Trump might be Stalin

justdave

Also, E.B.Farnam. Shit, is Trump Swearengen? I think Trump might be Swearengen

justdave

💅would you pardon me? I'd pardon me💅

——

15:30 before dune reference..

K U

Nah, Stalin was a workaholic and control freak who loved doing paper work. Not to sound like a lib, but Trump is actually a lot more like Hitler in that he doesn't do a lot of work physically, but he makes his priorities clear to his lackeys through endless droning about the things that bother him, and his underlings work towards making him happy.

justdave

So more Swearengen?

Sean

Very refreshing to hear someone talk about the deep state, covert ops etc without constant equivocation. Firmly grounded very easy to digest Aaron Good is good

Joshua Garcia

I bought the paper clip shirt as an Anglo/Latino. 🙈🙈🙈

C. Ries

Dark druidic magicks at play

Budget Hireling

An extra large serving of slop, bless up.

Jacob

Chp? Akp? I don't get the references in the beginning

Elizabeth Jennings

Can someone explain the “lounge” and paper clip merch to my friend?

Valentino

Turkish political parties, AKP is Erdogan's and CHP is the next most popular, basically both are evil

Jacob

Thank you brother

Dylan Wintersteen

I love being stuck on a planet ruled by absolute psychos. It's my favorite thing.

Of course

At 48:55, it's "regrettable" that Trump talks about the Deep State, it's also "regrettable" that he said the Iraq War was stupid and that we should get along with Russia and that the FBI can't be trusted and Bush isn't a hero for not stopping 9/11 and we should lock up Hillary. Not to mention it's "regrettable" that Trump is living proof that liberal-market meritocracy is a joke. Everytime the ruling class wants to dangle a little reality in front of our faces, they get the tangerine oaf to blurt it out and make the truth verboten.

john mccainus

the peter dale scott impression made me giggle tbh

Wisselbanken

thanks for another delicious plate of slop fellas

blazed uncle

I generally agree with the deep state model of the US government, but the way Good frames his arguments can be very off-putting. Like, that story where allegedly Obama says “look what they did to MLK” doesn’t even sound in character for Obama. Most politically engaged people already know that the deep state had MLK killed. You don’t need to include some flimsy story about shadowy donor meeting where Obama tells the other lizard people how the world really works.

Treppy

TRUMP 2024

Scott

Perry Anderson’s American Foreign Policy & Its Thinkers is really good

Jameson .

Interesting thank you

K H

MLK killed himself

K H

He can't serve a third term and his term ends 2024. Legally it's unclear if Biden clones can actually be president.

Zach Lemon

Wouldn't have thought that a majority of Wisconsinites were in favor of cutting off their Johnson @7:00.

Michael

Trump probably really liked the scene in Ted 2 where they tried to steal Tom Brady's jizz.

Zach Lemon

Back to the trough, Babe. Oink oink!

jonah peters

whoa i have had aaron good and ben howard mixed up this whole time

K H

1:01:20 Yo wtf

American Exception

Okay, lemme correct you here, and add some explanation. First, the story is from CIA officer Ray McGovern. It was a group of wealthy progressive people who paid a bunch of money just to get a table at a fundraiser so they could talk to Obama and ask him why he did not keep his progressive promises. That was why he said the MLK thing. It wasn't to the whole room; it was in response to the question. I agree that it is odd given how cautious Obama is, but I find Ray to be an honest guy who would not believe someone who was not credible. For one thing, I think if someone was going to make up such a story they would say that Obama referenced JFK instead of MLK, but whatever. Regardless, I would guess that Obama said this impulsively. He so rarely was taken to task by anyone on the left that he probably reflexively just wanted to blame other forces for his failures in some way. I don't think that he seriously wanted to bring the change. His Harvard/Columbia/Business International background--and Mom's connections to the USAID/CIA--all this stuff suggests that he was an Establishment guy from the beginning. He wouldn't have gotten to where he was were that not the case. So it's funny that--years before Trump--Obama would be in essence blaming the deep state for his cowardice. He'd like to draw people's attention to "the stick" and hope that they don't notice the massive "carrot" he received...i.e., the vast riches he has acquired for services rendered. If you wanna hear Ray recount this story, he does it in this episode of American Exception: https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-11-cia-w-60765220 Idk why I felt compelled to write this out here, but there it is. Peace!

justdave

Your good bro

Of course

Trump-Biden vs Biden-Trump: the Choice Has Never Been Clearer

Jessica S

Lol, I know the paper clip refers to Operation Paperclip (?) but I’m not familiar with the lounge one. For your friend, of course.

Jessica S

Aaron is not good. He’s great! (I’ll see myself out.)

Khemith

Killing this organ of global capital is not a killing blow.

Clean Shirt Piggie

From saving the world with Bernie to awaiting the end of the American empire in 2 years. Let’s go

blazed uncle

I mean I agree with you on the broad strokes about Obama and the “I can’t do anything because of [scapegoat]” style of rhetoric he used. The thing is, even if that quote is authentic, you’re drawing out these long conclusions about one off-handed comment that you admit is of vague authenticity. There’s so much more evidence out in the open that Obama was self-dealing and talked out of both sides of his mouth that I don’t see why you need to bring up this specific dubious example other than to give a mysterious cloak and dagger flavor to your argument, which undermines the very point you’re trying to make by making these feel like unserious insinuations.

Coleman

I'm sympathetic to this stuff, generally, but the injunction at the end of the episode to "go out in public and talk about this stuff" while we wait for the US empire to collapse is fucking lame, sorry

American Exception

Believe me, I know. I write more at the end of the book, but the whole point of incrementally constructing totalitarian, top-down system is to secure said regime from democratic control--i.e. to maintain oligarchy. That puts us largely in a custodial role vis-a-vis political reality until new conditions arise. But new conditions are emerging as we speak/spam. One thing I did not say but could have if I'd thought about it: those recently leaked emails where spooks and their media assets were talking about the need to preempt any sort of "anti-imperialist identity" from becoming widespread or popular. If those guys are against that, I am for it!

grimbo

Has anyone read the Underground Empire by James Miller?

Doug Cartel

I wonder if "behemoth" is a reference to that poem from that world war 1 guy. Maybe, maybe not.

Liam Witt

The "the center does not hold" one? maybe

Emmer Effer

the soft disclosure episode

Jim McKenna

Not a very good episode. A lot of juicy things to talk about, but the guys really seem to phone it in. And my take away from discussing the book is if I am interested in this fascinating subject I would be better served by reading pretty much any other book.

Ricky

Sounded like they mostly let him talk, which is good. What’s wrong with the book?

Comedy News

that was a great episode and you just aren't interested in these topics

Chris

roe v wade overthrown