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It’s Halloween season so we’re taking a look at the increasing amount terror many Americans are now experiencing previously-benign concepts like “school” and “voting.” We also take a look at the “retvrn” type traditionalists, and how the fantasy of what they want to “retvrn” to so badly keeps getting more and more recent.

We are going to do a CALL-IN show in the next week or so. Email us an audio question of NO LONGER THAN 30 SECONDS to calls@chapotraphouse.com by end of day 10/25/22 and we may answer it on an upcoming episode.

Finally, last few days to grab your tickets to Ft. Lauderdale. This show is ALMOST sold out so buy while you still can. Three big acts, Donzii, [STAND-UP NAME REDACTED] and of course us at Chapo. Tix here: https://www.jointherevolution.net/concerts/chapo-trap-house/

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ploob

Yeah dude, y2k nostalgia blows my mind. You can never go home

Shfifty_five

The 90s/early 00s were before the terminal decline of all ages shows. Modern Hip Hop is incomparable while punk and grunge were at least still around at the end of the 90s. That does legitimatly suck for kids today.

Chicago.AIR

I do love Will referencing Big Rock Candy Mountains

Laurel

☝️

CJ

✌️

amd

genshin impact is essentially a gacha game version of zelda botw. for anyone wondering

Clint Pelvis

prety sure i dont like this 👎

otis

Sending 29 seconds of gay porn audio when I wake up tomorrow

Jessica S

I like to torture myself by reading the public comments of our district’s school board meetings. A good portion begin “I don’t have kids in the district, but I heard that…”. And they are almost always the most unhinged comments of the lot.

Shimosanz (Brian Sanchez)

Cannot believe Genshin is being talked about on the show. You can play as either a male or female traveler, it’s just preference, neither of whom are properly covered lol. The “demon” is presumably referring to the playable character Arataki Itto who is part demon. Lots of action, but also a fun relaxing game for me, and it’s free to play. 🙂

Major bit me

We actually do witchcraft in my circles but not the way these people think

Scot Forsythe

There were witch panics in the eighties, i remember this made for tv movie where they burned up some lady in her house…cap?

Andrew Carmichael

The podcast image is a recreation of Matt putting his phone in his bottomless pocket as he walks to the Brooklyn Macy’s to take a shit.

Dante

I saw it I think it's Xiaos mask

Kerri

Boys, do a movie episode on Zombie Strippers for Halloween pls 🙏

Dante

Well Genshin is Chinese so I'm sure these parents would get extra made if they knew about that

Scot Forsythe

Also… “inflation?” Now there’s some witchcraft! Bah dum dum

The Other Lauren

maybe that school board lady has a point, i haven't taken lithium so i don't know for sure that it wouldn't stop me from being a huge fag

Ellen Harold

I wish you had played the whole song. The early Burl Ives was so good.

Andy Cameron

The original ending verse of Big Rock Candy Mountain is all about being slutted out by hobos, a tradition worth remembering in song apparently

Robert King

Hilarious Will actually mentions Calvinists. This report is from Grand Rapids Michigan, full of Reformed Church Calvinist types...not surprising

cwen

Will, what’s your favorite item off McDonalds secret menu? You were put on this Earth to answer this question.

drewb

Those parents from that school are absolute unmitigated worthless scumbags and make me despise Christianity more than I already do, well done

Peter Fishbeast

My question: has Amber just left the show now?

Aaron Baer

She doesn't tour anymore now that she moved to California... Are you new here ?

adam

They come so close to mentioning one of the best Finnish rappers, Eevil Stöö

Laura

I would like to reassure the concerned citizen that she is definitely that stupid.

justdave

I know I'm gonna get kicked out of my hobo community for saying this but the fly and pest problem at candy mountain would be really hard to deal with- and I still have serious health concerns over a hot soup lake(maybe we could do a gazpacho?) -cig trees do sound cool though

Warbs

Michigander here. Satanic Panic is our culture, see the Dungeons and Dragons panic from MSU.

Doug Cartel

I would love to Retvrn to Tradition when being a hot dude meant you bleached your hair and then spiked it. Like a bloomin' onion left in the sun

William

Dang. Props to will for trying to recapture that floss Latino magic 1-2 times

Brendan A. MacWade

I'm waiting for Chapo's tone to turn really really dark in the coming months. You can snark and joke your way through the Trump administration when most of his term didn't hurt us New Yorkers and Angelinos. (If you recall, Trump wasted the first two years of his term watching TV and tweeting, aside from giving us two expected Supremes and turning refugee children into orphans). But you can't snark and joke your way through the rest of this decade if the GOP has an iron grip over Congress and our liberties. Perhaps more important to average US voters: when Speaker McCarthy or Jordan shut down the government long enough for the US to default on its debt payments, we'll be in very serious shit.

Thomas Carroll

This is their main questline of their MMO though. Being batshit about random murals and stuff.

grymm

I like stew.

🤷🏼‍♀️

Y2K was one of the few times a serious problem was dealt with appropriately, similar to the banning of CFCs reducing the ozone hole. It’s precisely because it was actually dealt with that people think it was a joke https://time.com/5752129/y2k-bug-history/

etienne

drives me completely insane when boomers say that shit. yeah when you solve problems they stop being problems. you should keep doing this

mad turtle

I play Genshin Impact and finding the reference was like Where's Waldo. I think it's supposed to be an oni mask? The oni guy in Genshin is basically a simple minded hobo operating a Little Rascals gang for other simpletons. They play games against children to gamble for snacks. A punk girl who discovered weed looks after them.

Ashe

They’re probably just talking about Xiao

Cumtickles

Is kissing Adam Friedland on the lips praxis? I am gay by the way

Clean Shirt Piggie

Love the discourse that cites important American leader, MTG

Laurel

This is a rich episode. Thanks, Chapos!

H G

good commentary on the school terror wrt targets for punishment and "ownership" of the future

Michael Coutts

The future Matt is talking about sounds a lot like the one depicted in Incorporated. Corporations controlling states and a nation government of figureheads

Gage

What a bunch of fucking delusional psychos, holy shit. How do you have so little going on that you can afford to care about this?

mad turtle

Cyno is a law and order republican.

etienne

the Neo-Confederates get tired of the Fed and adopt Bitcoin and suffer 30 years of brutal deflationary contraction but actually secretly enjoy it

Hugh Osborne

The prediction that computers would crash on y2k was absolutely correct and a huge amount of engineering work was done to ensure that it didn't happen. It was so successful that, to this day, people think the "doom sayers" we're crackpots who got proved wrong.

Harper Big Spender Karabees

Baby boomer reactionaries never pined for a time when they were adults. Their unfufilled desires have always been based on the 50s (when they were kids).

Harper Big Spender Karabees

Now the timescale has just moved forward. All reactionary politics is "I wanna be a baby again"

Dan

Parents are mad because elite competition and overproduction is trickling down from higher Ed to lower schools, and it’s explicitly counter to cultural hegemony. This wouldn’t be a problem if parents knew their kids could have a better future than they did. But parents see themselves as trapped with their culture holding the bag for the system they had no choice in. Not conducive to successful reclaiming of our cultural mission.

Dan

They didn’t choose when and where they were born. Neither did we.

Ozzie

We need to bring witchcraft into the public school curriculum.

etienne

how about that: Defense against the Dark Arts Class. 3 hours a week

syd

Carl Panzram stole Taft’s boat

syd

Adam Carolla *did* say that more men now wear bracelets than eat stew and maybe he was onto something, maybe more Stew is indeed the path to fixing modern society

Ben

Novus hobo

Evan Scott

i think everything will be fine

Zarathushtra

Sorry guys but the mural talk misses the mark in my opinion. It’s really basic, the average parent of either party and the vast majority of the right don’t want their kids being convinced their trans at public school. It’s really that simple. Accounts like libs of tictok are inundating them daily about this or that teacher doing lessons on pronouns and freaking them out. It’s not NATSEC, CIA, PSYOP, imperialism coming home to roost shit.

Poppy Chulo

Coolest part of the bible is Luke 10:18 “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." Very metal. Satan is so cool.

justdave

'Brian where is your homework?' -'the reanimated corpse of aleister crowley ate it'- 'A+ Brian'

Maxwell Harkness

like obviously there's a lot of right-wing money ginning up these panics but I do think you're right that sometimes Chapo leans toward BIG EXPLANATIONS when something like "I don't want my kid to be trans, gay, or even weird" is pretty standard among a lot of people who become parents.

etienne

real talk tho it's sad that console shooters don't have splitscreen co-op anymore. that was good

Flesh Colored Subaru

I love how Felix living in Chicago, NYC, and socal has led to him saying "alien" in an absolutely unique way

Gulb

There's some truth to what you're saying, but it kinda depends on whether you think this is normal stupidity or if it signifies a growing public hysteria.

Dan

It’s definitely a growing hysteria, leveraging the constant battle in higher Ed, and parents dim prospect for their kids’ lives to be better than theirs. Parents are losing their shit defending a system that seems to be sacrificing themselves and their kids to a mindless capital accumulating hive-mind.

Joe

Lake of Stew, Hallelujah!

MKatieUltra

Why did my brain make this “Adam Curtis.”

orc

And they’re right to be, technology is evil

Tam Mansilver

Can someone tell Felix there’s many countries that are healthier socially and still have phones

etienne

yeah i kinda sympathize with felix on that aspect since im a huge extremely online loner but also like ... you can trace a lineage of blaming things on iphone that goes to Bowling for Columbine to the TV panics back to the concept of Bovarisme and then to aristotle saying that writing things down would melt the brain of his students

Antipaganda

Sadly she was caught sexting the same girl that got Virgil canned, but since the girl is now of age Amber isn't actually allowed on any podcast any more, not just Chapo

Mark

You can tell that Patrick Wyman “imperial wars always come home” article really been an impression on Felix because he references it pretty frequently

mrakobesiye

The satanic panic stuff is my RETVRN trigger because it makes me remember fondly all the poodle brained suburban Christians I knew 30 years ago. It doesn't have anything to do with phones, they were watching illuminati shit on VHS at youth group after the all ages grunge shows

Jessica S

I was in high school at a private Christian school back then, I still laugh thinking back at all the things adults believed were demonic.

Jessica S

I was just wondering if there was a link to that article. Stupid lady.

Ricardo Pleasure

i know felix didn't just call a witch's brew a witch's stew. smdh

Jessica S

IDK about the average parent of either party. I think most parents shrug it off, or are too busy or checked out to care. It’s the loudest ones that get all the attention, and often it’s people who don’t even have kids or school aged kids. That one kills me.

Jessica S

Depends on the age of the parents, pretty soon the ones having kids will be less bigoted, because they had a different school environment. These people who freak out are probably my age (40-something) and older. Or there will be less parents to complain b/c less people are having kids. (Which I totally, totally get, lol)

Jessica S

I don’t think enough people understand that it’s not just about new technology but that this is so much more targeted to behavior control than anything before it. Who knows, maybe the kids who were born within the last decade will not be affected in the way there parents have, who can remember what it was like before cordless phones were ubiquitous. Lol.

Jessica S

Actually, I argue that joking and snarking is the only way to get through that, lol. And what exactly does being serious change? There is no way to meaningful affect change through politics anymore. The past 8 years have been a shining example of exactly that - the democrats will never be a party that can entice enough new/reluctant voters to make a difference, not by doing what they’ve always done.

More Human than Human

My Alabama crimson tide will win out in the SEC west, and then beat the hell out of the dirty ass, cheating Volunteers to make the college football playoff once again. They’ll then beat the shit out of those sniveling, whiny, shitty ass conference playing Buckeyes (no offense to Chris) just like last time….to win the national championship. Roll Tide, let’s go Brandon.

Jessica Rios

I am from one town over from the mural school they were talking about and if you aren’t from there, you would never believe the ignorance that goes on there. I obviously moved away but it was my hometown for my entire formative years and I still go back often. It’s a whole different world over there and the people are not trying to hear anything the outside world has to say.

ex-cantaloupe

Big Rock Candy Mountain just makes me think of John Kasich lol

etienne

I've been re-reading Anathem and I'm convinced. at some point we're going to need a special caste of society that isn't allowed to use a networking technology more advanced than switchboard telephone so they can do the real brain work when it's needed

Zach Pierce

That woman is 100% married to a guy who inherited 30 coin operated car washes and their daughter is a total whore

Zach Pierce

AC/DC means “all children deceive Christ” so all you ROCKERS out there in the school hallways better watch out cuz HELLS BELLS will be ringing in your ears throughout eternity or at least until 2024. KISS on tour one last time? If you head down to the local skate rink or rock hall you’ll just be another KID IN SATAN’s SERVICE, so have fun washing the devils balls throughout the hereafter or until 2024.

Zach Pierce

Going after Stacey Abrams AINT it guys. It costs a ton to do legal work in Atlanta

Jonathan G

Vape like Felix& Dress like Will& Think like Matt& Vibe like Chris

Patrick

Explain to me again why these greedy fucking cunts won’t put the live show on this feed that we piss pigs are paying for? Some of us literally have no means to see their gross fat asses live.

CJM

“ Folton “ street fair… retards

kallampero

Left amnesia for Iowa 2020 and the Shadow App. You hate to see it.

Mangomoosh

Rainbow stew for everyone!

A M

etienne

felix moved to Los Angeles and he doesn't have a driving license, no wonder he's freaking out about loneliness

William O'Reilly

Smartphones are to us what cigarettes were to people in the 50s. We are only barely aware of the damage caused by chronic constant.

etienne

the problem with the witchcraft believers is like Will was saying about the crime on the subway: it's lower than it used to be but it seems to be on the *up*, which is not supposed to happen

Axel H.

I mean, I don’t know that that’s all that’s going on. Yes, that is the reaction against the trans/LGBT imagery in the mural, but I’ve talked to some right-wing Christians and they legitimately believe the imagery in the mural is Satanic and claiming that it’s not (as the teenage artist did) is gaslighting. I think this may be a part of a bigger, general “fear”, but I don’t think it’s just the trans stuff at issue.

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

People bemoaning the social ills of new tech aren't always wrong. And there's a difference between a tool being available and a reconfiguring of society around everyone being dependent on that tool. Cars were widely opposed on the grounds that they were killing a lot of people and coopting a lot of public space. Whatever the use of a car in an individual situation, I think it's pretty safe to say that reconfiguring our society around car ownership was pretty bad for the people in the society and the cohesiveness of that society. Likewise smartphones are, sometimes, the right tool for a given task, but reconfiguring society around everyone having a smartphone and routing so much social interaction through it has pretty clearly been bad. It's been 15 years of them, we kinda know what the effects have been by now.

Casey Odinsson

sounds like you want it to be okay that you live in your phone

Spica

More hobo content please.

kingwaz

Well I’d say the reason the “social” aspect is important here is because the internet, and instant access to social media through your phone is a very unique SOCIAL invention so yes it will have and has had profound social impacts (Take a hit everytime you read social)

DS

I'd like more information about the hobo trick community and directions to big rock candy mountain.

DS

I didn't have a smartphone until I was 30. I had no friends, got lost a lot, read a lot of books, and believed in myself and other people. I still believe in myself, but less so, and certainly less in others.

Jonathan lees

The 80s sucked and the nineties got worse I guess I’m old bastard

Jonathan lees

But I give it there we’re less cops and narks maybe that’s the nostalgia good luck

Cindy Carrot

Yeah those countries are getting less healthy socially all the time tho. I was a throw away your television person back when Americans were watching 10 hours of basic cable a day, and I don't think things have improved now that we are inside the TV