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Hell on Earth - Episode 8: THE STATE (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-01 12:00:06
Edited:
2025-08-19 18:37:04
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2026-06
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The Peace of Westphalia concludes the war and introduces a new phase of political and economic conflict to Europe.

Interactive atlas, bibliography and credits for the series can be found at: hellonearth.chapotraphouse.com

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Pete

Do you think Martin Luther would’ve liked Halo: Combat Evolved

Praaguematic

Give us all the music in a playlost format ! Or defenestration will have to be considered. Need apocalyptic bardcore tunes to make sense out of my daily life.

Max

Just finished the episode, and was very moved by Martin Luther's "I have a dream speech" and how it brought on the peace of Westphalia

Kamran Husain

cum town has passed TAFS is king now

Toddy Todd

They aren’t ready for me

Hello!

Wednesday gang

Calvin Bishop

Congrats Matt and Chris on converting Trump to 17th century mercantalism

Michael S. Judge

Evening, fellas. IDs, please. I pulled you over tonight because you weren't driving gay enough back there

Wario Argento

The Fall of Warrior Cousins; the Rise of Bureaucratic Uncles

Tim O'

He'd be writing fanfic analogizing the Covenant with the Catholic Church.

Christian Johnson

Bureaucratic uncles & their niece wives, am I right?

NYCM&AHole

I gotta say major thanks - as a yank who lived in Germany for 1.5 years, all of these names are coming back and the added context is super helpful. Hats off to Matt & Chris again

Post Void

A revolution based around taxation of a resource, that then was manipulated by aristocrats and land barons at the cost of countless peasant lives to establish a more efficient means of taxation. Hmm, this sound familiar?

C. Ries

Dutch showing why libertarianism is for sheltered highschoolers

Brent

y’all’s names are mad biblical.

Gubriel

I will not live in the Modern Nation State, I will not drink the Swedish Milkshake

Jacob Curley

Cannibalism violates the NAP

Post Void

"The Water Line", didn't the US Army Corp Of Engineers do the same thing to the 9th Ward during Hurricane Katrina?

Demented Avenger

Huh-huh, huh-huh, you said "transubstantiation" in like a, uh, material way.

god listens

THIS IS THE THIRD TIME MATT HAS MENTIONED THE DOOZERS FROM FRAGGLE ROCK I FEEL INSANE

Dee Haytch

Insanely edified brah

Dee Haytch

My new doom metal-rapcore persona "lil' ice age"

Demented Avenger

Nobody can agree who won the Thirty Years War, but everyone agrees that Germany lost.

McMiller

Hey I commented too

Dee Haytch

Highten these contradictions in my ass yo

MC Prescott

Matt has mentioned the doozers three times now in a week

Michał Narożniak

As a historian from Poland i feel obligated: hussars wearing the wings is largely a myth, but if they did it was to avoid being caught on a lasso, which was a tactic of Crimean tatars. (Also the sound made enemy horses anxious)

justdave

*peers out through corner of window curtain, hangs up phone*

Tim Mullen

Only if the beer and sausage Germans won out in the end :/

Michael Ehrenreich

Great series yall. I can’t keep track of most of the main players but enjoyed it immensely

vermouth

my mans watchin fraggle rock??!!!!?

CJ

You know, I too am thick-set, tall, and singularly ugly.

Bryan Jennings

Thanks to Matt, I am now forever haunted by the mental image of a rotund, aged, drunken Beer George recreating the Survivor music video with arquibusier backup dancers

Kamran Husain

yo chris that slope metaphor fucking rules nice job

Kamran Husain

excuse me officer as a subscriber to thou and they brother patreons i believe i make the rules round here

Toddy Todd

I’m sorry officer I’ll remember to hit more curbs and incorrectly use my turn signal it won’t happen again

Jacob

This shit was fantastic. Thanks so much

justdave

I'm sorry I couldn't I'm laughing like demon right now I need to take a walk

Saga

I've been looking forward to your description of the infamous Habsburg Family "Wreath", and it didn't disappoint. I tried drawing it out once, and gave up out of sheer frustration.

Sage

I popped champagne when I found out Beer George was one of the last men standing. A consummate survivor til the end, thanks for making his story known

Tim O'

Yeah, isn't that what's going on in the Star Wars prequels?

T

Based and Dozerpilled

T

Doozer

tanmantincan

Next episode is on Cromwell probably?

J

I have an arquebus

José J. Tesoro

You briefly mentioned Descartes and as a ex-student of Philosophy is insane how much is lost in History of Philosophy when the context is not properly explained in the curriculum (at least in my country). Leaning about the 30 years war makes things like Hobbes and Descartes much more focused. The guy that revolutionized modern philolosophy was on White Mountain... that actually makes a lot of sense.

William

Actually, 1648 changed everything. Read The New Sovereignty: turning point 1648!

Tim O'

Matt's monologue about "the transubstantiation of the modern world" and "bureaucratic state operatives with muskets and stock certificates" ... dude, please write books, this is so good.

Aaron Kamolz

I have a certain guide to revolution you might be interested in

Damen Irving

Doesn’t Susan Reynolds’s book Fiefs and Vassals pretty much undercut the idea that the medieval period was dominated by feudalism and that the entire idea of feudalism as a means of social relations is really ill-defined?

K H

Haven't listened yet, but all of these are great. I've listened to most at least twice. Transfixing in its horror and how human it makes these sickos of old.

Luke Peristy

After the laundry list of problems the poor guy was afflicted with, I ended up feeling pretty terrible for Charles II. Guy never asked to be born as a Human Dachshund. Tough hand to be dealt!

K H

Explain.

Jack

I’d love an interview with Mike Duncan since I’m sure he has more to say than he fit into his first few episodes, and could tie this series to his just finished revolutions. Also a bonus episode looking at the colonial situation during all this, especially in India could be great!

Christian

We got links to the music??

Seth Morton

Lets just follow these crazy polities and dynasties through WWI. 50 more episodes please :)

parker

I would love personally an extremely detailed look into the meji restoration by Matt and Chris. It's the perfect mix of stupid names as well as being a completey different langauge plus crypto governments and crypto police who police the secret police. I would start earlier but Japan really is like bizzaro world we're feudalism happened but literally no one had any pretense of it being good. Main issue is that the meji restoration as well as the two centuries prior to it are literally some of the most talked about history of any country on earth. Also it's an interesting example of a country developing capitalism from 0 to 100 and killing a shitload of it's people through it and no one brings it up.

Ahmed Razick

My favorite part of Matt is I maybe haven't read enough leftist literature but his passion for finding and explaining is so good he should write books. Or ya kno keep the historical podcast thing. I'd buy people copies of this series.

Mark

Another banger. One of my favorite aspects is the subtle employ of the Wilhelm Scream. Fantastic job, gang.

Lizabet

Matt has the right combo of technical knowledge of history and a passionate way of expressing himself that gets close to mysticism--which works very well at getting across the full weight of the war's story. "Transubstantiation" kicks ass.

Lizabet

Feudalism is a lot more tangled than it's usually depicted as. Being incredibly decentralized, the monarch really has only nominal power unless the vassals are brought in line/loyal/happen to support the monarch's goals at the moment. Even the peasants actually have a fair amount of power, although again as decentralized, rural farmers they have little chance of organizing other than in bloody revolts over raised taxes or conscription (revolts which happened more often than in the classic view of "feudal overlords oppressing mud farmers"). But if the peasants stop farming the entire system grinds to a halt, because there is no other source of income. Arguably medieval peasants had better bargaining power than many workers today (definitely better job security!), but that's as much because of the collapse of community and class solidarity in modern times as it any particular strength of the feudal system. Feudalism, more than anything, is the codification of social immobility, and like modern capitalism it was sophisticated enough to be self-replicating and self-reinforcing.

K102.1FM Mornings w/ Jonny Corndogs

Goddamn amazing episode. I'm starting to get the feeling that this is the true talent core of CTH. Don't go changin' for nobody, boys!

pineapplepizza27

Song at 57:35? I swear I recognize it I just can't place it

Wade

They ate their guys!

Brandon

The BLOWBACK was here??? 😳😳😳 love all the chapoverse pods great work laddy-o’s

Alex Schneider

Classic. You guys gotta keep this series up

ClownBabee24

Can you guy please do a series about the age of Napoleon?

dingbat44

Why does it say nothing happened in Ireland when things happened in Ireland?

Connor Keeley

Yeah honestly Matt will say a sentence or phrase that I need to pause and mentally unpack for a minute… not because it’s academic jargon but because it’s a really novel and frenetic combination of ideas condensed down into something digestible and it’s great. Half the time I don’t get it but It’s always incredible to watch it happen.

Kate Baldwin

Is the audio choppy for anyone else?

Ted Wood

idk if this has come up, but you have to do a bonus movie episode about Ken Russell’s The Devils which features bad guy Cardinal Richlieu.

etienne

I listened to this tune like 50 times since, thank you so much, this is amazing

David Cox

Letat (Russian for 'to fly') cest moi

Patrick

Naplese ice cream!

Christine Pizan

You mention the lack of language for opposing a monarch themselves among rebellious movements of this era. Interestingly we see that pattern break down in France in 1588. While the Catholic League's hatred of Henri had in previous years been euphemistically channelled at his 'degenerate' advisers who gave him terrible counsel and usurped their true social station. When Henri resolved on 23 December 1588 to assassinate the duke of Guise. The league pamphleteers took their gloves off Henri de Valois, as they now called him, (an interesting precursor to how the French revolutionaries would talk about 'Louis Capet' in 1792) was no longer their king, he was a 'sodomite' and 'hermaphrodite' incarnation of the antichrist who had ceded his right to rule them. There's some funny images from pamphlets of Catholic leaguers trying to escort him into the mouth of hell.

The Children of Jack Acid

It seems like a similar sentiment about a good king with "degenerate" advisers was how Russian peasants at the turn of the 20th century saw their Tsar(s). In their minds, he was a good guy who loved the people--he just wasn't aware from his lofty throne of the dirty deals being done in the name of Russia. If only they could get in touch with him and show him all the wrongdoing being put upon them by sketchy administrators, he would make it right! The struggle of Leftists then was not to convince the peasants that they were being oppressed but to convince them that toppling the Tsar would be an appropriate solution. It just goes to show that parasocial relationships always end in disappointment--and sometimes bloodshed!

Dick Must Bust

You can tell the Great Vorelli tracks

Gino

did they put a wilhelm scream in every ep lmao