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Hell on Earth - Appendix 2: MAGIC (Live) (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-22 11:05:00
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2025-08-19 18:39:38
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2026-06
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Our live show from the Hell on Earth launch party at Littlefield in NYC on 1/20/23. We discuss the life of alchemist, mathematician and courtier John Dee, and look into the intersection of magic and politics in early modern Europe.

You’re going to need this image to understand this episode. The Hieroglyphic Monad. Learn it. Know it. Love it. The Monad.

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bator

I have been trying to search for the music for this series can you link it please

Maria Szpanowska

I was so sad that this will be the first hellless wednesday and now we’re getting all bonus parts at once?! Feels like xmas, thank you guys

yeeet1234

There's 6 appendix episodes supposedly so I don't think it's done yet 👌

Dee Haytch

I see a cyclops, with a furrowed brow going hands-free ham on that ass. That's it, right?

etienne

next time I go into a porta potty im a scribble this on a wall, make everyone quite confused

justdave

Wait, that's the symbol of the 'monad'? Great, all this piss I've been boiling for the past decade is USELESS!

Wario Argento

It's the Einsturzende Neubauten stick figure

T

Alternative title: Dee's Nuts

chetan kadodwala

There is a great UK documentary on John Dee that includes Alan Moore. Should be on YouTube.

chapotraphouse

yes just put the first two out today since we ended up with more bonus content than I originally planned and didn't want to string this on for 7 more weeks. Got Movie Mindset to get to!

Gubriel

I brought my friend who's doing a PHD to this show and he really identified with the piss boiling and said that's basically what he does all day

Gubriel

I hit him up like 'how's that piss boiling lately'

etienne

wow I'd be so pissed off

Mark Schneider

Dr. Dee & his angelick languages and lore are pretty awesome, whatever Mr. Meric. Casaubon, DD wrote to deprecate his rep in the 1659 folio just increased it . . . for a "STEM" guy, per Matt, who wasn't into the humanities, those Angelic Keys are pretty gud-damned poetic!! (Was it his work? Sir Kelley's? Who knows.)

brodie

I hope Chris talks a bit more about his history teacher that guy sounds fucking cool as hell. I know if one of my teachers came in with an FBI file on their dad i would never forget that shit.

yeeet1234

Def. not complaining about additional juice 🫡

Michael S. Judge

I have to UH ACTUALLY like John Dee here and say that the practice of mystical Jewish numerology isn't kabbalah – that's called "gematria," and it's a major practice WITHIN kabbalah, but there's a lot more to it. I can't exactly call myself a "kabbalist," because I'm not Jewish and don't have a circle of mystical rabbis to consult with, but I've been fascinated by it for a long time, and kabbalah is broadly a kind of cosmological system in which the nature of god and the creation of the universe becomes a coordinate structure which can map onto almost anything else – the origins and secret alchemical powers of language, literal metal-transmuting alchemy, the human body and its medical treatment, the interlocking nature of ostensibly opposed moral forces, the personalized path of study each individual requires for spiritual wisdom, etc. All of this was kept pretty secret for a long time, like centuries, and only the initiates knew anything – anybody can find the major kabbalistic text, the ZOHAR, but it's incredibly dull and kind of nonsensical without learning all the other stuff first. The best sources I know are the books by Gershom (né Gerhard) Scholem, the German philosopher and friend of Walter Benjamin, et al, who moved to what was still British Palestine at the time and broke down the major thematic material in kabbalah fora non-initiate and non-Jewish readership. ON THE KABBALAH AND ITS SYMBOLISM is both the best and most accessible of the Scholem stuff I've found. The Beautiful One Has Lost Her Eyes from Weeping. The Moon Will Shine Again with Its Own Light.

Isaac Jones

The Star Trek guy made my testicles hurt

Jaime Christley

when the moon shines again with its own light, you know you done fucked up.

T

Did they both scold someone around 4:40?

Jaime Christley

my hearing is for shit but I think someone in the audience couldn't stop shouting out a joke about "the D" because, as everyone knows, a live show of any kind is always an opportunity for audience participation and assorted hijinks.

Stanlej

John Deez Nuts

carl

wait so your soul doesn't come out your eyes? I've been misinformed

CJ

Matt, the Tycho Nose joke was really good

Lewis

No School of Night?

Jon Spiegler

The Monad as a revolutionary counterforce sounds a lot like Acephale

Boaz Corey

In the House of Doctor Dee by Peter Ackroyd is an interesting & decent novel.

Gubriel

There was a guy who was so drunk he couldn't sit up straight who kept yelling things at Matt. Someone had to carry him out before the end of the first half.

Ian

So this is the guy Leibniz ripped off

Rollo Tomassi

What an intro! I was doing laundry before bed, and when they mentioned "England" and "Magic" I yelled JOHN DEE IN THIS MF

tapwaterskeptic

Lmao at the guy who just launched into describing an entire star trek episode.

K H

New shapes droppin to herald the epochal monad y'all!

HamDrawn

I'm getting MONAD pilled after listening to this series.

jason macza

I started listening in Canada and moved to Germany and then listened to the second half in Worms and Mainz

Agent Grange

I deeply vibe with the allusions Matt seems to make increasingly often about a Gnostic / dualist zeitgeist as a possible answer to embody our social contradictions and sense of belonging necessary to prevent alienation and immunize the eschaton. On that note on the off chance he or Chris sees this, please consider doing a bonus episode or Hinge Points on the Council of Nicaea. I feel like it's a great point of divergence to discuss counterfactuals over what would have happened if a Gnostic interpretation of Christianity won out over what would become Catholicism. It also seems to set the stage for feudalism in the same way the 30 Years War was the birthplace of capitalism, so I feel it would make a good companion piece.

Agent Grange

Respect to my encyclopedic neurodivergent breatheren but the secondhand embarrassment is the entire reason why I don't like listening to or watching live shows.

Wario Argento

Chris, thank you for the Archers of Loaf ref. at 29:10

Shauna Seroquel

OMG yes pls that's a brilliant suggestion!

Ovine Escorts LLC

Went down a Mercator projection rabbit hole not too long ago and it sounds super useful for navigation with the tools they had at the time. Coming out here as pro-Mercator

T

We're going to build a monad, and Mexico's going to pay for it!

AthleisureCowboy

Chicken Qabalah by Lon milo Duquette is a very good intro for anyone interested

etienne

we've already been over this: a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors

Nat Cohen

any chance at hell on earth x pentiment crossover bonus ep or livestream? feels like good synergy

justdave

It's really very simple

Chris Wade

Glad somebody got that, it’s what I think of every day when the BeReal goes off

Harvey Elder

Tycho "Broham" Brahe lost his nose in a duel while studying at the University, and after engaging in an argument w another student over who was the better mathematician. My favorite fact about Brahe is that he kept a house dwarf for entertaining guests, and he made the dwarf run around under the dinner table begging for scraps.

Phli_phlam

I study “feudalism,” late antiquity, and Marxism, pls pick me, I will help

J. A.

I'm feenin

Tristan Clark

Cats sitting by their bowl waiting for our slop

Shauna Seroquel

...like a dwarf under the table, begging for scraps... 😹

Noah Mingus

Yo I just found a pink monad

Jon

immanentize*--that's what we do with the eschaton

Jaime Christley

Reminded of the Poe story “Hop-Frog”; I’d say Brahe got off easy….

etienne

boiling a bit vat of tweets see if i can alchemize the thursday episode

Joe DeWitt

My son said the monad looks like Plankton from SpongeBob

J. A.

Yep thats a thing that everyone's seen before

justdave

It's soo fukn metal that the secret to immortality is eating piss

Khemith

love these DLCs

Houthi & the Blowfish

Have to wonder how many people got tortured before they figured out the wax doll was about a different Elizabeth

Post Void

Been quietly following a personalized adaption of Christian Anarchism for a decade and when I'm a asked what I believe spiritually, I often point to the concept of the Monad (the less complex one, just the point within a cirlce), Electrons, Probability Fields and Preception creating reality. 2 days ago I was talking about the same thing to a couple friends after watching "Everything Everywhere All At Once", which essentially is this. I won't spoil, but I'll just say "Ponder That Everything Bagel People!" Edit: I just realized the Googley Eyes are quite literally the Monad in the movie. Wow.

Jason Nuclear

I hear shit like that and then I understand why they don’t like interacting with fans lmao

Nick Muscatiello

There’s always one fucking dork who just wants to ramble about their pet interest during a Q&A

vermouth

good shit but this the ultimate girlfriend snoozer show

Sam McManus

what the fuck is a girlfriend

Daniel Martínez González

I guess is having a friend who is a girl. Wild stuff, I don't know if that's permitted unless you have pemission from parents of both sides.

J.P. McD.

Just listening now, excited to get to this

Methew

What’s it called?

Doug Cartel

Come on britain, stop killing people for predictions. Haven't you read The Secret?

Shauna Seroquel

Yeah, if yr girlfriend is fucking lame, dude.

John Smith

Just want to point out that Kabbalah is actually significantly more complex theologically than just Gemera (the numerological practice of assigning number values to letters). Gemera was just one of its components, and imo probably the weakest part. Unfortunately it was also the component that was probably most influential, and was readily able to be exported to Christianity. Meaning that in this period of you hear esotericists talking about "Cabalah" they perhaps do simply mean Gemera, the other parts, which are mostly metaphysical speculation, didn't interest then.