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To celebrate Joe Biden’s 81st birthday, we’re joined by Delaware state representative Madinah Wilson-Anton to dish about all things Delaware. Rep. Wilson-Anton leads us through Delaware’s legal peculiarities that make it ripe for international corporate malfeasance, her personal experiences with Joe Biden and his “think tank,” and some tales of Delaware politics, ranging from corporate crime, feral senate dogs, chip thievery, and lots of casual racism.

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Aromal Ray Donovan

Genocide Joe's birthday cake has gate to hell on top

gawdawful

Delaware doesn’t even exist

J.P. McD.

Happy Birthday Joe!

Basil

Here's to mushbrain's last bday!

Erik Weissengruber

Sweden resorted to criminals and deserters to populate its Wilmington settlement. The vibe perpetuates.

Tim Sereda

this dropped right as I was finishing grilling up a Costco Arrachera Seasoned Steak

m@tt

This will pair nicely with Ensure.

Daniel

Delaware representation on my Chapo what a sight to see🫡 shout out mr celery go hens

Poppy Chulo

Really don't give a fuck about Delaware.

C. Ries

Many people are asking Delaware, but not Delawhy, or Delahow

sarah

James Joyce was the one who said "When I die, Dublin will be written on my heart"

T

Irish Joe

Sarah Giles

"When I die, Delaware will be written on my heart" -Neil Kinnock

Jeffrey Miller

That was actually pretty good for an interview episode. She was actually funny.

Mi2CaMatt

Guest drops the best jokes. Great ep.

Rahman

Rep madinah was hilarious. Bring her back more often

T

4th mic

HeyB00B00

"Broad" is hands down the funniest word for a woman no matter what context😂

Alexandr

Forgive the... caustic nature of the monicker given on SomethingAwful in C-SPAM, but... SLOWSEPH RAPEINETTE GENOCIDEN

Alexandr

"When I die, Delaware will be written on my heart" - Thomas "Tommy" Wiseau

Daniel Martínez González

Argentina has demonstrated to be the stupidest country on earth. They elected dollar store Bolsonaro like 5 years after he mr magooed through Brazil until he got a new super strain of measles and can't put pants on. They even got to see Milei having a system shock on national television. I never saw a country so headstrong into becoming poor man's 40s Tangier.

Greg

Great guest

Ian H

At 23 mins. Chapo once again displays their shameful anti-Maryland bias, Delaware would never have been part of New Jersey, if not for disgusting prot supremacy there would be one beautiful Kent county from the bay to the bay!

Declan Kennedy

thank you for introducing me to Rep Wilson-Anton, and the story about the EU delegation visiting Delaware was hilarious and chilling in equal parts

Jake Zydek

Hi.............. I'm in Delaware

NYCM&AHole

Nightmare on Main Street 3: Dream Hoarders

NYCM&AHole

Boo to this guest for saying bad things about corporate lawyers like me.

NYCM&AHole

Jury trials are not helpful for determining fiduciary obligations of the board and officers and stockholders

Ricardo Pleasure

cool to exit on dream police again. thank you chris

Shiv

Thirded, she’s great

Justin Slepicka

That U2 album did have some good songs. I fully support that take.

The Pissler

She’s one of the funniest guests you’ve ever had. More, please!

christoph.s

What a delightful interview! Very funny guest!

K H

See this? The dirtbag mindset is matriculating into libs and perverting them. A Joe head no less. They are actually getting into office and demonstrating the fools gold of identity political representation. Can you tell a foot's gender in a boot folks? Seriously I don't want to be gay if I cum.

Ardy Rezv

This lady was defending Biden till 2 days ago. Glad she came around but god damn how much of a dumbass do you have to be.

Tim

I have a new favorite state-level legislator.

Jonathan Nathan

That’s true. Many people are saying this.

christoph.s

On the dog habits, I grew up in rural Austria. My neighbours were an old couple living in a 180 year old house, right on the edge to the woods, with a big garden. They had for generation, even their parents before had three dogs a longhaired German Shepard always named „Frido“ a Great Dane always named „Greif“ and a great Münsterländer named „Faust“. (All plays on German mythology) I often took the dogs out for a walk/run and let me tell you, the tourists especially who I would met on my hike with them would have preferred me having a loaded gun.

Jonathan Nathan

You know what else isn’t helpful, for any purpose? Corporate lawyers.

Nolan

Everybody forgets the end of the Obama presidency when all memes for like three months were about how Biden was Obama’s golden retriever. Biden is doing Obamaface by pretending not to be a neolib.

dabbledogg

Been a while since ive listened to a democrat talk about politics. More of the same.

the lord commander

I had a very similar college experience trying to get into politics. I was a part of my schools public policy program and worked on a number of campaigns but ultimately had to drop out from that bc it self selects for wealthy kids whos parents can pay their way. The slow realization about how many of my good liberal coworkers were lizards was one of the things that pushed me more leftward.

ooopsie

The thing your guest is talking about where Biden centers himself in every story he tells has a clinical name. It’s called confabulation, and it is, of course, a symptom of mental decline common in dementia patients .

Nolan

Imagine being proud of the president being from your state. We would give up a president in heart beat to have one all pro at a skill position from Massachusetts.

Nolan

We would even take an all pro lineman

William

Wow, it’s almost as if values and norms shape a person’s beliefs and it takes repeated experiences exhibiting a reality contrary to those beliefs to make someone change their mindset. Weird

Henry

Damn, I guess we gotta get Bryan Quinby to do a Delaware Guy's episode

William

This is genocidal hate speech

William

Dang. Sorry about that

Jaime Christley

imo it's "Gash" or, if you're really gunning for detention, "Axe wound"

Jon Lyons

With charisma like that, this lady's goin places!

Doug Cartel

man rich people LOVE marrying their cousins, its crazy. Frank and Eleanor Roosevelt being just one example

Doug Cartel

Also that argentina guy is already jonesing for the Falklands its very funny not even wednesday yet

T

When Will introduced her, I thought he said Medinah Anton Wilson. Like she was Robert Anton Wilson's granddaughter or something. I had to rewind.

NYCM&AHole

Sounds like you’ve never needed to limit your liability

The Children of Jack Acid

When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear.

christoph.s

As an uncle who lives in a cave, I can sympathize.

Nolan

Biden: what if we paint the Mexican flag in the office Obama: Joe, no Biden: I already ordered the paint Obama: Joe Scene.

EaZy E

Took me a solid 5 count to think of what C word.

NYCM&AHole

Damn never heard that one before

Bernard Fuddle

This is such a bummer. The last thing we need in this moment is the voices of more Democratic politicians who are just now beginning to question Joe Biden. What's the goal here? Putting on kid gloves to make sure liberals know they don't have to support Israel just because they're Democrats?

Ardy Rezv

Again glad she came around. Although when working people are getting screwed Biden is so cool and empathetic, but as soon as it gets personal (Muslims dying) that’s a bridge too far. Typical liberal. Again glad she’s come around. Let’s see how serious she is when it’s November 2024

Ardy Rezv

As much as I’ve liked this podcast over the years, they’ve alway been friendly to the democrats. Sure they criticize the dems sometimes, but I won’t forget them tucking tail after Bernie lost. Did a three part Star Wars episode and never looked back. They knew they couldn’t advocate voting against Joe in 2020. Also have handled the squad with kid gloves. Tried to criticize AOC once over the iron dome vote and almost got booed off the stage in Brooklyn. They know who butters their bread.

Ardy Rezv

But he’s so empathetic and good at selfies.

Henry Gould

Madinah needs a permanent guest seat on the show.

Jaime Christley

In FOXCATCHER, Dupont smash Hulk! In Todd Haynes’s 2019 film DARK WATERS, Hulk smash Dupont!

CJ

Felix pulled a Matt and scared me during an interview

Nolan

I’m confused did you want them to bring her on and be like “hey you fucking bitch why didn’t you denounce Brandon sooner” did you think these three guys who have never worked a real job or anything close to a physical labor job in their lives were gonna like save you or something? There would be a ceasefire if Brandon saw that David Roth was on again.

Tim O'

I like the guest! It's nice to hear from elected officials who don't suck.

Patrick Burke

Loved the guest, classic Chapo getting down with the constituency and minutia

Mark Schneider

A great guest!! But can somebody enlighten me what the bad "C-word" for Asian people (women?) is. I'll trade a story-- I taught High School in San Lorenzo, California for over 20 years (it's just south of Oakland, very diverse racially) and one year when I had to supervise graduation, our really out-of-it 95 year old school board member attended & commented to us, "There sure are a lot of Orientals at this school!" We were all pretty appalled. Even moreso a couple years later when her 99 year old husband died so she married his 98 year old brother. (Full disclosure, they were Mormon so maybe that's "normal".)

Gert

He has always done this. I call it just thinking the whole world is whatever story you want to tell and everyone else just lives in it, and who came blame me for being fucking furious for questioning me. It's pretty common among people who just like to have a good time and get vengeful if someone tries to spoil that good time by, for instance, expecting you buddy to pay for committing sexual assault or causing a drunk driving accident.

ooopsie

It’s still called confabulation and dementia isn’t just for old people.

Bernard Fuddle

No, I didn't want them to give a platform to democrat shit-artists.

Laurel

What a delightful episode. Thanks, Chapo.

S

Chinese

PraiseTheSun

a chink in the armor kind of slur.

PraiseTheSun

Lol as if a local Delaware politician is going to get a bump from being on Chapo.

Jesse

A very respectful “Sup” to Representative Wilson-Anton

Jaime Christley

you don't just have to post whatever you thought of while on break at the jerkoff factory

Ranni

Very cool thing to say about a Muslim woman during a genocide of Muslim people. You sound like a bitter failed content creator. Go back to breadtube

SH

Dude. There are only two real parties in this idiotic country. What do you want them to do? At least they’re talking to someone to get some perspective.

Ivy Green

She was pretty cool, I hope to hear more from her in the future 👈😎👈

drizzly_november

Biden had to name his pets weird military ranks because he used up dog names for his sons. Hunter, Beau, all Labrador-ass names.

Bernard Fuddle

This has nothing to do with her ethnicity, it has to do with lobbing softballs to members of the political class.

Bernard Fuddle

Keep making jokes of this caliber and some day one of these podcasts might call you up to the big leagues! Great stuff, champ.

T

That's how they do it in Delaware too. Hunter dated Beau's widow.

C. Andrew

Hold your tongue, Will. Wilmington belongs to the People's Provisonal Government of Philadelphia and the Greater Pennsylvania Republic, one day all of Delaware will be under our thumb. I mean under our cooperative leadership and mutual assistance.

Scoot

(Some) lawyers hate the DGCL because it makes shareholder derivative suits for damages harder

NYCM&AHole

Lots of problems with the DGCL, lots of esoteric provisions in other jurisdictions (Nevada and Utah) but none of them let you jam through a filing in half an hour for a $5,000 fee like Delaware does.

Crosley Querin

The obengruppenfuhrer bit is rotating chair worthy!

NYCM&AHole

My bad they charge $1K to file something with 1hr turnaround. Not sure what happened to the $5K half hour fee.

Blingo Starr

I can think of another major world leader who killed themself while in office not too long ago…

The Children of Jack Acid

What's wrong with a two-pronged approach, or hedging your bets? Should we just ignore reality completely while waiting for capitalism to implode? You can still advocate for a revolution while at the same time trying to ameliorate your current situation as best you can. Just because Democrats aren't ever going to kill capitalism doesn't mean we can't at least try to get them to not support genocide, to not put kids in cages at the border, to give Muslims in state and local legislatures more of a voice, etc.

Rxk Lenderman

Chapo when they actually manage to find an elected official who can vibe with them are the best

Bernard Fuddle

Thank you for writing a good response here, and I appreciate your perspective. I think we're far past the stage where ameliorating ourselves to the political class has any hope of making things better for people on the ground. Politicians are too engrossed in their roles as capital brokers for those kinds of gestures to change anything in a substantive way. Even if that were a route that could eventually prove effective, our current convergence of crises doesn't afford us that kind of time. It's a noble pursuit, but I think the only possibility the left has of moving social discourse forward is through acknowledging that the political class has refused to do its job on virtually every level, and that we will no longer condone that as a populace.

Joe

this was a good one

Marcus

All time great guest.

james

That pause at 50:54!!!😂😂 Chris actually edited that down, it was SEVERAL seconds longer!

orc

Extremely Pynchon fanfic last name

T

JFK

Kamran Husain

jon is the only expert on delaware

Jesse

Notes for Chris: have to find a way to get the bin Ladin letter mentioned and Antony Blinken’s stepdad was Robert Maxwell’s consigliere

Nolan

Did you listen to what she said? I get, I wonder if had they asked the same things about Obama that they did with Biden if she would have had the same response, considering they’re both a part of the same political project.

THEKILLERWHALE

CH*NK. That's right. We call them chunks.

Evysaurus

This Rep is spilling a ridiculous amount of tea for someone so close to the party apparatus and I love it! Jfc girl I hope they don’t bury you next cycle because of this but those details are so juicy… I need all of the court drama! It’s like listening to coworker gossip in the service industry except for lanyard losers. Great episode!

THEKILLERWHALE

What is fun about this interview is that usually proximity to power nurtures a sympathy with this power imbalance until you develop pod-john brain and are talking about how Obama did his best and we all want universal healthcare but take this tax break on used band-aids. She seems to have gone in the opposite direction, which is refreshing.

Jack Arens

Could not be me (Truman)

Gabe

Don't get it twisted, Joe Flacco coming out of UD is still considered the states crowning achievement. We started naming roads after him immediately.

Monica

Madinah has real potential to become Gossip Girl for the Delaware political scene.

K H

I pissed my pants

K H

Of course we all have needed to limit our liability, but as Sovereign Citizens demonstrate, that is only available to people poisoning water or using a helicopter for personal transportation. The LLC itself is an affront to the concept of justice.

K H

"selfies" Appropriating White girl culture and doing it wrong. Typical Joe.

Bernard Fuddle

Yes, I listened to the whole episode. I really didn't hear an interesting or worthwhile perspective in it, aside from some stuff I didn't know about Delaware's tax code. It felt like she was constantly reminding herself "Wait, I'm NOT excited to be from the same state as Joe Biden," while fumbling through a set of acceptable deviations from party talking points.

Fitz Weiss

Russell Dobular of Due Dissidence had a great article about the issue of these "culture warriors" now returning to destroy their masters like Frankensteins monster. I think it summarized this bizarre position we find ourselves in well. At least until we have Matt back to help clarify these issues.

shmoolian

Make Madinah a regular correspondent please.

Ardy Rezv

The DSA losers in the chapo audience will eat up anything they do. As long as they aren’t too mean to progressives

Ardy Rezv

Damn no response?

Bernard Fuddle

Most credible explanation I've seen so far

Mark Schneider

Yeah, thanks all. I overthought it, "coolie" an imperialist word. I should've practiced KISS, keep it simple stupid, 5 letters easier. Oh, another story-- so I had a Brit co-worker and one time he told me a crazy story about how his elderly uncle visited and saw a bunch of young black kids & called them "pickaninnies", which disgusted Tim, the teller. Then later in the same conversation he referred to a "Chinaman"!!

etienne

that's right: Pennsylvania state treasurer R. Budd Dwyer

Chris W

Madinah was great I hope she doesn’t get thrown under the bus for the sake of a bund of crypt keeper Delaware good old boys for talking about how stupid our leaders are

Melanie Glidden

Please make her Matt's temporary replacement. She is fantastic!

Kinetics Video

I always get a chuckled when someone mentioned they were "born abroad"

Sean

The "Hill Dog" actual dog is Hillaryous.

K H

She wasn't that funny and also actually works as a state rep.

K H

You mean an oriento?

Jon Lyons

Rep. Medinah Anton Wilson (D - Chapel Perilous)

Jon Lyons

technically we're ALL cousins mannnnnn whoa what if wealth is inversely proportional to how close of a cousin you fuck, i gotta end this comment here and call The Annual Review of Sociology with this revolutionary hypothesis before I sober up fr tho how crazy would it be to see like how close of a cousin everybody you've ever fucked is, i kinda wonder what's the lowest number i gotten but i think i'm happier not knowing

Jay

For congress to mayor shenanigans read up on Mike Coffman’s career arc

otis

Madinah is dope.

Ardy Rezv

Let’s just hope they don’t fall back to being reactionary libs once 2024 comes around. Somehow I think Trump derangement syndrome will come back around.

Kevin A

Madinah also did a hunger strike in DC this week for Palestine, genuinely based politician