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791 - Kirby Star Allies (12/14/23) (Patreon)

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2023-12-15 05:45:22
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2026-06

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We take a look at the beginning of Argentinian president Javier Milei's term, and catch up with our old friend Eric Garland. Then, we discuss the Biden administration’s Israel messaging through some of its rising stars: John Kirby and Matthew Miller. Finally, how were all wrong about what the word “colonizer” means.

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Basil

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Bide

Offering high-quality dog cloning services for $40,000. $35,000 if your pooch was a coliseum lion in a prior life.

grant brown

Wow I was just talking about Nintendo Kirby might play lottery

Justin Racine

Real talk: what would the politics of the game kirby even be just for shits and giggles?

Dick Wolf

Pastafarian theocracy

Justin Racine

Given the eldritch horrors that are as absurd as the pasta lad themselves, checks out .3.

Vincent Millay

I’m going to have to change my screen name Dammit

Gabe

I think it's time we retire the word 'colonizer'

ElverG

Ayo the outro beats 🔥🔥🔥🔥

T

Kirby sucks and blows!

Thom

vorecratic

J P 3

Joe Biden is our era's James Buchanan. i.e. a one-term president who is too much of a creature of an old dying order to resolve an unfolding major political crisis. Of course, what's waiting in the wings isn't Abraham Lincoln.

Mcjibbs

Since it was talked about at the end of the episode, Amber's book is really good. I listened to it in one shot at work the other day and it was very insightful and makes me miss her on the show.

riley martin

Is it just me or is there mic popping this entire episode

Jaime Christley

Kirby was awakened from a 30-year cryo sleep so he's coming in hot with all the flimsy-yet-condescending War College takes that were still fresh during all those Desert Storm victory laps. "Do you think human shields are cool?" Fuck off you twat

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Paying $50 grand to clone a dog named Conan and not calling him Clonan? He'll never replace the original bro, just get therapy, it's cheaper.

Andrew Fedje, Conduit of Corn

Israel doing Spec Ops: The Line while preparing the Homefront: The Revolution defense. "I didn't know it would be that bad. It was an accident."

William

Has anyone asked Biden why Jews aren’t safe in the country he is in charge of?

William

I love Israel documenting their own war crimes and releasing the evidence to the world

Simple Socialist

Bernies foreign policy has always been pretty cynical and overtly political, I remember a quote from him about how he refused to condemn a bombing campaign in favor of not tarnishing his domestic policies, and this is largely that. I mean, typical Dem Soc amirite folks?

triplevalaska

More israel, the moral outrage from hypocrisy is pretty boring. Not saying what's happening is good its just kinda weird to care so much. I have never met a person in real life that's gives 2 thoughts about this. But by all means keep it up stop buying McDonald's are whatever you guys do

Nott Hemon

Sometimes i wish more people were offering a lincoln or Ilyich instead of bemoaning the lack of one.

John Forbes

wtf are you on about brother

🤷🏼‍♀️

18,000 civilians evaporated through US support was made possible by “I have never met a person in real life that’s gives 2 thoughts about this”. Why are you adopting this posture of being above it all? It comes off as cold, cruel and dismissive.

Alejandro Pepsi

Would US under Biden even stop supporting Isreal if they did use nukes in Gaza, or more likely, Lebanon? It's crazy that I can't say they would for sure.

Jones Kolbinsky

The patreon app sucks so hard, I can't get more than 5 minutes into this episode without it crashing

Mitch Davis

Why do you even listen to this show if that’s your attitude Lmao

SF

I think you might be depressed, brother

aKg

My hunch about 2024 is identical to Will’s but they slide Harris into the top spot instead on that same premise of “oops too late to primary”

SF

Also, upstate NY jew here, “just kill all the Arabs and Israel will be fine” was a common refrain in my household growing up. This is a salient issue for a fuck-ton of people

Steeeeve

In web browser I always click the ellipsis on the bottom right, download the file and just listen that way. Works a treat and you get to spend as little time on patreon's shitty site or app as possible

rizzlord

The app works fine for me...

Sam Zeng

Soc Dems have mostly signed on to the US foreign policy. They are mostly indistinguishable from the Bush era neo cons.

Darren R Young

Somebody get Felix a microphone. It sounds like he’s in a bathroom with AirPods on

Dan

…America?

Dan

William Vetter, Eddie Vetter’s shithead cousin

Dan

Go watch a YT video by Three Arrows titled “Was Every German Soldier Evil?” The parallels/ similarities between what the IDF & the settlers (& tbh expansionist USA before that) are striking. I’ve watched it before & went back to it a couple days ago just to remind myself I’m not crazy, this really is the IDF & Israeli gov’t taking the lessons of the past & using that horror as a weapon

Nick King

I'm on the same page as you. With the caveat of adding Newsom to the ticket as V.P.

Demented Avenger

Felix might want to learn how hate crime statistics are tallied. The DOJ and FBI are required to tally them, but they're dependent on the lower agencies for defining and actually reporting them. Basically, they're bullshit numbers.

Axel H.

Spotted the South Park centrist.

triplevalaska

Is that like calling someone a rino in this context

triplevalaska

Maybe it's an east coast thing? I just wonder where all this uproar came from where was it for the last 20 years when it was the US doing it or when the Saudi did to Yemen. Not a good thing but I can't really see the difference, I'm not trying to get in the way here just can't see it as issue to stop traffic over. it makes the progressives seem strange and unrelatable

watchpocket

Someone tell Felix to get closer to his microphone? His audio sucks. Chris?

Dan

For real. My beagle Sparky got hit by a car when I was little, they handed me a new beagle puppy that I promptly named Sparky. Rinse & repeat at least twice bc I’m a kid but even child me didn’t think it was the same exact dog.

Dan

“Where was this uproar when it was the US or the Saudis?” Congrats on waking up from your coma

bobguy234

super best friends vibes from the end music

Ozzie

The Kirby art feels like a not so subtle jab at a certain no show comedian guest from earlier in the week…

——

Suffis instead of suffice is insane. They’re just mispronouncing words as a troll at this point

Blingo Starr

I almost ODed on percocet just hearing Felix talk

Mark Schneider

Felix noting the mentally ill Jew who was found to have vandalized the Jewish cemetary reminded me that Bari Weiss' office inside a secure building was "vandalized" with "F-- Jews" graffiti. That Hasbara doesn't just produce itself.

Mark Schneider

Yes, pretty scary. Trump will support Zionist genocide equally (but wisely drop the failed Ukraine project) while his lackies emphasize jailing or killing women who have abortions, having "Patriotic Education" that settler-colonialism is civilizing the colored people so we don't have to kill them all (not that that option's off the table), etc. The US is really the 4th Reich at this point, Israel is the 5th. At least Ukraine failed in being the 6th!!

Natalie

Me in 1940s Germany: it's kinda weird you guys care so much about this ....

Natalie

You would be happy with nothing but peaceful protest where nothing is disrupted and it's like it never happened. There's no time for that. Blocking off roads is not new. It makes a statement. Disrupts life as normal. Us going about our daily routines while we fund genocide should be unavoidable. Pretending it isn't happening is how it happens more.

Noah Mingus

I'm sorry but Joe Biden saying that not a Jew in the world will be safe without Israel IS a threat, we would be stupid to not take that seriously

——

Point of privilege fat shaming

NoPrefect

This motherfucker took the Theseus and Minotaur story beat in Hades and decided "Yeah, like that but with my dog!"

J P 3

Ukraine is more in the position of Palestine. Israel is the aggressor similar to Russia. I don't really subscribe to the idea that because U.S. foreign policy is generally bad (although good for global capitalism), anyone who opposes it in any way is good. Putin has been as much of a Zionist as Biden or Trump. Even now, I see his positioning as entirely opportunistic. One of the most pathetic things in the world has been Israel repeatedly and publicly rejecting overtures by Zelenskyy for support, even as Zelenskyy talks about wanting to model Ukraine on the Israeli model.

bruce

It is completely insane to me that not only are we seeing months of proof that bidens foreign policy is functionally no different than trump's, but that now they also want to subordinate their domestic policy to being like Trump's to be able to keep doing the same foreign policy! You will be told to vote for this or you're a Nazi by the way

king_von_diesel

Holy fuck, the dems winning the EC but losing the popular vote would melt people's brains. Literally entirely new types of "guys" would be discovered

MEAT CLOWN

It makes me want to rip my non-existent hair out whenever I hear about the Democrats doing shit to appease the right wing or avoiding stuff that might piss them off. It does not matter, reality doesn't matter to them. They get what they want and then keep crying about the "radical far left Joe Biden administration not doing enough to help poor israel" even as he desperately hoses Israel down with cash and weapons. They won't win a single conservative vote but they will continue to lose progressives. Kill me

William

“Suffest to say” - damn, another Felix gem

Maxwell Harkness

Democrats never understand that being immigration hardliners doesn't count for shit, conservatives always think they're open borders pansies!

Ross

I don’t think we are imagining enough tongue in Netanyahu’s cheek when he gives us these statements. He fancies himself honest when saying Israel is open to a two state solution, because it’s technically true if he imagines a state that exists and a state that doesn’t exist as the “two states”.

etienne

rereading John Fetterman The Art of Winning by ettingermentum. no reason just having a smile

m@tt

This comment was killed by IDF friendly fire.

K H

Why waste time imagining being clever when you can lie and know it.

K H

They don't care. Democrats still vote for them.

Natalie

I'm glad I don't get what this means

Ross

That’s true too, clearly he can do it however he wants.

Liberal Chieftan

I’m not being edgy contrarian, but I’d genuinely like to have a list of article or posts they’re referencing when they make claims that aren’t available on MSM.

MEAT CLOWN

Buddy did you forget 2016

The Steel Harvest

Milei would... an akashic history with his dog. I fuckin love it.

K H

This isn't a video essay. They are not going to source riffs except by accident. If you want information on something particular then ask it directly in the comments and multiple freaks banned from their subreddits will rush to answer you.

K H

He has Hitler's upper lip. We are a lot about cloning but not much about gene splicing.

K H

Tell me more. You mean like not marking a hispanic guy as White or something?

Demented Avenger

More like, what constitutes a hate crime at all

K H

Is he still making videos? I remember he was pulling to vote against Trump and he was kind of pissing me off, but I liked his historical analysis.

T

He's imagining states of matter. He wants Israel to be solid and wants Palestine to be gassed.

T

Never make fun of someone who mispronounces a word. It means they learned it by reading (posts on the internet, not books).

etienne

heres the thing: israel wouldn't nuke itself

T

"FUCK YISRAELIM! GOYIM RULE!"

T

He's recording from a tunnel under a hospital.

Jimmy McMillan

A Democrat is president, therefore the border is open. It was 'open' when Obama deporting a record amount of people. This sophisticated propaganda is too complex for the Biden administration to understand

Jimmy McMillan

We have to vote for the closeted fascist or the open fascist will win! Can you imagine Trump doing the exact same thing as Biden but being all vulgar, crude, and not pretending that dead civilians break his heart?

Alejandro Pepsi

Again, I feel like I can't say you're right, for more than the obvious reasons too.

David Higgins

An ethnic group can be abused and terrorized for generations until they don’t care what others think about them. Where they can say fuck it, if they think we’re conniving, tricky, avaricious. Fine! if we can use it to our advantage like all the other countries did, we can will to power our own enclave. We’ll be just as brutal in a just cause. Our survival. But in doing so they’ve engendered the same attitude in the victims of their struggle making history rhyme and rhyme again in the most death metal fashion. POST

Matthew Krueger

Chris at 53 mins - It was good to hear all that and it tied the episode together. Christman would be proud. Also, 100% thought you were setting up a Hell of Presidents plug.

David Higgins

Had to go back and listen. You got it hundy

Alexandr

FLATTEN. THE. KIRBY.

Christopher Price

Nice of Matt to loan Felix his tin can on a string

George P

former Chapo all-star Jeff Jacoby marked today's 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party by writing a column in the Boston Globe denouncing it as a crime against property. incredible stuff. the Globe is on fire lately, they gave noted pedo Alan Dershowitz space to call for the Harvard president's firing this week. they've also got a new conservative affirmative action hire coming for Jacoby's spot, a freak named Corine Hajjar who used to be a National Review intern. a lot of potential reading series material.

Kevin C

Its awesome milei took these criticisms to heart and went dictator after this episode

Joe Schmoe

Gore Vidal interviewed the head of the Cairo newspaper in 1958 and that guy mentioned how Jews were seen as white colonists taking Arab land re:Israel Palestine…. That article acting like that’s something new is so ignorant

Joe Schmoe

I would attach the excerpt from his essay but I can’t attach a photo

Joe Schmoe

It’s called Nasser’s Egypt

Patrick Carroll

I will vote for Hillary this time I swear

David Atkins

A day late, but: what was this episodes exit music?

A.L.

It's a music from a Kirby game but idk which one.

John Mitchell

The reason that the seat of imperialism is not the metropole is because the historic and current support of Zionism in the imperialist countries is still based in anti-Jewish sentiments. They support Israel because they don't want Jews to come back to their own countries, just like they wanted to create Israel from the very start to expel Jews from their countries.

Jimmy McMillan

For some reason I think you'd end up with a Stephen King pet cemetery version of your dog

Kiva

Ok but ethnic groups don’t have one long consciousness the same way a human does. They do have a sorttt of continuous consciousness, through history and mythology and more, but it has to be carried from human to human. Things drop off for non obvious reasons like a game of telephone. And things change/ get added by the life experience of each new human/generation.

etienne

whatever happened to "dual loyalties" as a antisemitic trope? I thought it was bad to say that all jews are actually israeli too

Omegasmash

why name it after one of the middest Kirby games man

Jay

“They mention Will’s grandfather” Gee I must not have gotten my Chapo trading cards in time to memorize stats because I have no clue what that’s supposed to reference and I’ve listened for years. I guess i need to spend more time googling the hosts, adding details to my hair dolls, buying official accessories for my tableaux from the merch store…

K102.1FM Mornings w/ Jonny Corndogs

I used to think that the funniest outcome would be "Both Biden and Trump drop d*ad during the live televised debates, and now they need to redo the primaries and get a E. Warren v. T. Cotton outcome from that" but now the Dem's winning the election but not the popular vote is starting to win me over as funniest outcome.

aarinsanity

The “execution style” school massacre and then the recent “buried alive” and “bulldozed” Palestinians, does anyone know if these stories have been independently confirmed? Im just surprised these storied weren’t reported on in AP or Reuters or the other mainstream media outlets. Not saying they’re fake news, but we also don’t need to make a horror show more horrific than it already is. I just couldn’t find any independent confirmations of these stories and what actually happened.

Jason Matthews

Robert Owen Menaker is listed as an informant in the Venona Papers. This used to come up alot on the subreddit, as evidence that the podcast was part of an organized effort to Venona the contemporary 'left.' I don't doubt that there is a deep political background to this whole Leftpod space, but it has little to do with the pedigree or personal agendas of any of the cohosts. It's a red herring, you could say.

Tony Millionaire

They sound sensational. When these stories get eventually debunked, it makes true stories seem doubtful. I felt the same way when I read them, “buried alive” everyone’s worst fear.

Sirloinofice

It also shows up in a bunch of other Kirby games.

jkjkjkj

It's not a threat. He probably really believes it cause that's what boomers believe

jkjkjkj

I thought most of the hate crime stats that get trotted out wrt anti semitism are collected by organizations like the ADL. Iirc the bar for a hate crime according to the DOJ etc is really high (has to show explicit linking between violence and whatever motivation you have)

jkjkjkj

Nah thats not really true. Most countries that historically had big anti semitism issues now largely have populations that aren't anti Semitic anymore. The only exception is in the middle east, but that's mostly just anti zionism. If israeli jews were to move to the US or Eastern Europe or wherever they'd be fine

Rusty Shackleford

Please tell me there's going to be a leave the world behind episode

Demented Avenger

I’m pretty sure the ADL does drive much of the numbers for anti-Jewish bias crimes, making sure lower agencies note incidents as hate crimes and thus are reported upwards. The numbers are just insane. If the FBI and DOJ numbers are to be believed (and I do not believe them), then it’s far more dangerous in America to be Jewish than be black or gay. That doesn’t jibe with anyone’s experience at all

aarinsanity

I think facts and media literacy are important right now and we should be more wary of what our own side is reporting. Definitely taking a little media holiday over the next couple weeks!

pq

all I could think of after hearing that Kirby quote was the trope of a criminal grabbing a hostage and pointing a gun at their head. But rather than try to delicately aim for the criminal the "hero" just shoots the hostage over and over until the criminal runs out of hostages.

David Higgins

Yeah thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t even notice the little goofy mustache growing under my nose! My point kinda falls apart when I have to think more rigorously about all the regional, linguistic, and class differences of the subgroup that fed into the Zionist project. The fact that not all were Jewish,and even states were acting in this theater. I was just trying to put myself into the shoes of someone say from the pale of settlement with an understandable chip on their shoulder. To blast a whole ethnic group is lazy. Is the mustache still there? Did I get it all?

Kinetics Video

On top of that outcome, some weirdos that still care about Gore winning the popular vote insist on Trump winning this time and get some electors to go faithless.

Kinetics Video

Ukraine in the position of Palestine? I guess that's why Zelensky called it "big Palestine" that one time

Kinetics Video

I think it's time we retire he word "Gabe"

Kinetics Video

Give me one example of a story about Israel doing something horrible that didn't turn out to be true

Gabe

It's a joke bud - just referencing the subject matter of the episode. Get your panties untwisted.

Kenneth Smith

Will saying Conan in his weird way I love in the first minutes 🤌🫡🤌

J P 3

More or less covered that: "One of the most pathetic things in the world has been Israel repeatedly and publicly rejecting overtures by Zelenskyy for support, even as Zelenskyy talks about wanting to model Ukraine on the Israeli model." Zelenskyy's attempt to analogize Russia with that of the Palestinians is also absurd.

Wes

@Christopher E Musgrave 9/11

Matthew

Oh boy another episode with Felix on his Neera Tanden Shit. 🙄

Wes

because it has the word “Allies” in it and is about the Biden administration

Wes

it’s how u say the barbarian apparently

Kinetics Video

A gladiator and a lion could have fought on the same side of a gladiatorial show, those things got pretty nuts

Kinetics Video

Going to say bulldozing a few Palestinians is a little more within the State of Israel's capacities than secretly wiring WTC for a controlled demolition, while kidnapping a 747, replacing the passengers with different hostages, then flying holograms into the buildings (or whichever version of that you're referring to).

Kinetics Video

He's wants answers! Chapo Lore, the precious!

Kinetics Video

Well there's an anti-monarchist throughline, but also Dedede is usually being manipulated or his actions misconstrued somehow.

aarinsanity

I have no defense for Israel. I am on the side that isn’t free. I am just saying we need to be skeptical of sensationalized stories in the media.

No Relation to Henry

In 2012 I remember one of my teachers predicting that Obama would lose the popular vote but win the EC. Wonky 538-types were predicting that if an EC-popular vote split were to have happened that year that would’ve been the most likely way it would’ve gone. I wish it would’ve happened. Too many Republicans got it in their heads that the EC inherently advantages their side, and now they’ll never want to get rid of it.

Nick Anaclerio

Anyone else notice that John Kirby sounds exactly like Michael J. Fox?

Kiva

Lol what? Be as offensive as you want. I don’t care about that. I just don’t think historical causation works the way you’re suggesting.

Kinetics Video

In that he's turning into a savage man-eating beast or that he sounds like he's trying to talk his way out of an awkward time travel mom-fucking situation?

Dan

Guy hasn’t made a new video in almost a year but I still check his channel often. Very thorough & I always appreciated the non-American POV. The responses to American politics from a country that had already been thru some of these moments is both cathartic & frightening

Dan

In a Warren v Cotton race I legit might have to kill myself.

Dan

That’s some Chomsky level understanding of political terms

Dan Whittaker

My god, this was just insufferable. Without Matt around to balance him out the stupidity of Felix has reached high enough levels where after like 6 years I am un subbing. Grow up guys.

Alexandr

Me: "What does he mean, I don't remember any..." *listens to first minute* Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Alexandr

Conan O'Barbarian!

Tyler Sutherland

Was the bombing campaign the intervention into Yugoslavia? Because he was 100% correct for sticking to his guns on that one.

Simple Socialist

You mean that war crime that made everything worse and killed 2000 civilians with little to no affect because strategic bombing doesn't work? Yes, that bombing

Noah Mingus

Okay, fair. It is threatening! No?

Hall wingfield

I don't understand what Felix was doing that was so bad, was a pretty normal ep to me