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#556 - The Void Soys Back (Patreon)

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What if a movie about a corporate merger became the most popular movie of the year? Friends, you don't have to imagine it. We discuss DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE (2024) and ponder the question that Vulture asked: "Is Shawn Levy the Future of Populist Filmmaking?"

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Ben Nadeau

Oh wow is this a tie in with the new Extended Clip episode on Deadpool (2016)? Very meta!

Aaron Lucy

Been waiting for this one for awhile…. Another movie podcast I listen to actually said this was worst than the flash as well and I couldn’t believe it but now I hear u say it and my interest is actually peaked to watch it now

Tyler Sutherland

Cheering, hooting, and very well hollering seeing this pop up in my notifications

Blank

I’m so sick of multiverses

David

Cuts off at the end.

Jeremy Hawkins

I think it's so funny that Will quoting Jeremiah Wright has become a bit of a catchphrase How did you feel about the end credits where they showed outtakes of actors laughing from all the old fox superhero movies?

David

Are you both okay? This one took a toll.

Mid-Sized SeDan

FYI, Morena Baccarin was killed off at the start of the second film, her death is what motivates Deadpool through that film... and she's brought back to life at the end.

Chris Sherman

The hate is so pure, I am loving it

Zwoozy

It's honestly psychotic neither of you know who Gambit is.

Geri Danton

I just wish they hadn't dragged Blade into this. I hope Wesley Snipes got good money at least.

Tyler Sutherland

Although I enjoyed listening to you guys loathe this movie, I liked it just fine. A light 7/0, I will literally never watch or think about this movie ever again.

Martin Nolan

Instant classic. Love when the fellas head to the cinema

Tyler Sutherland

The Flash used rock music to gloss over their scenes; I distinctly remember them using Chicago when introducing Michael Keaton('s stuntman) when he ambushed the Flash in his kitchen!

Tyler Sutherland

The subtext for the characters being in the Void fails apart because Laura, the teenaged girl, was a major and vital character to LOGAN, a commercially and critically successful film! Her being in the Void makes no sense!! Also, how did she get in there to begin with??? She was in Deadpool's universe as part of Logan, right? But that timeline wasnt even SCRAPPED yet!?

Troy Thomas

All timer classic episode. I love it when the boys are in pain

P

Very much enjoyed this one. I haven't seen this movie and probably never will, AND this episode very heavily feels like two people who hate sports talking about watching a baseball game. Or those two old Muppets who sit on the balcony and hate everything they see. Very strong geezer energy.

Santiago Rodriguez

Bringing up Warner Brothers again reminded me: They made a videogame called "Multiversus". The whole premise is just "What if Shaggy fought Batman? What if Superman and the Iron Giant teamed up?" It has an insane development history being released, unreleased, and rereleased in a buggy mess. It's the pinnacle IP slop. Look it up sometime.

Jeremy Hawkins
>>148550370

Yeah I think the weird thing about all these movies is that they do all feel average... until they don't for you. I viscerally hated Thor Love and Thunder and I know that it has nothing to do with the quality of that one compared to this one.

Iain

Poor Matthew MacFade-In!

Denise Fillion

I’ve never been happier to have invested exactly zero minutes watching any of these movies or knowing who historically belongs to what corporation! I can barely keep my interest enough to follow all the context even with you both explaining it. BUT it’s always enjoyable to hear your takes. Hilarious ep.

George Olken

Once again directing Will and Luke (and all) to Jerome Christensen's 2002 article: "The Time Warner Conspiracy: JFK, Batman, and the Manager Theory of Hollywood Film."

Michael Carroll

At the risk of sounding like “that guy” - Funny to fit this in the context of seeing the previous two Deadpool films as sacrosanct when TJ Miller got cancelled and disappeared from the franchise after being a supporting cast member in 1 & 2.

mruskin

I genuinely love when Will summarizes the corporate context of these films.

Podcast subscriber 78

Maybe this is only funny to me, but I love the idea of someone’s real name being just “Jennifer Garner Electra” as a way to call back to Jennifer Garner, similar to how “George Washington Carver” recalls George Washington.

Coco C

One for the books

Ligma

Someone please tell me the name of the song at the end

Robert Long Foreman

Listening to this, I was reminded of Dan Sinykin's recent book Big Fiction, which argues that the conglomeration of publishing houses is reflected in many prominent novels by the likes of Toni Morrison, Cormac McCarthy, and others. The work subtly and unsubtly comments on and responds to the market forces that help decide what's published and by whom. Deadpool Wolverine is doing exactly the stuff described in that book, only more brazenly. I saw it and didn't know about the Fox deal, etc., so I felt lost.

Eric Cline

Your retrospective resetting of the bar based on this film's poor quality reminds me: way back when, "The Jerky Boys Movie" came out, and my local paper's film critic wrote that he had to retroactively consider the Andrew Dice Clay film "The Adventures of Ford Fairlane" to be the new "Citizen Kane" by comparison.

Eric Cline
>>148550098

Yeah, and isn't it vaguely racist that Wesley Snipe's three successful Blade movies are portrayed as equivalent to Jennifer Garner's one failed Electra movie? If Blade had tanked as hard as Electra, they wouldn't even have brought him back for this film!

Mid-Sized SeDan
>>148550098

I haven't seen the movie but the thing is Blade 3 iirc was critically reviled and Snipes behavior on set was notoriously not great. Apparently he would only call Reynolds "that white boy" or something. Which I mean in retrospect, deservedly dismissive

Mid-Sized SeDan
>>148535586

I haven't seen this one either but the boys say that she's almost written out, just noting that after the first movie it seems like they'll do anything to not have to deal with her

Mid-Sized SeDan

One thing I'll say in defense of Hugh Jackman, I think he does bullshit like this so that he can do The Son or Bad Education. Reynolds does this so he can do IF 2 and eek out some more sponsorship deals

Christoph

This isn’t Shawn Levy’s first explicitly corporate movie. The Internship (2013) is a two hour recruiting ad for Google starring Vince Vaugh and Owen Wilson

Michael Rowland

Brilliant episode. Thank you for your labour. Hope the Patreon geld is worth it. I’ve only seen 1 marvel in the cinema - the multiverse Spider-Man from 3 years ago or so - it was an exhausting outing. Came back regretting I ever went as it put me off films, culture and life for a while. I genuinely mean that. These films are fucking dreadful. When the rest of the cinema goers were cheering along and even spontaneously repeating marvel lore I felt isolated

Mark K

...Till you’re ninety! (i.e, about five years for Jackman) Canonically Wolverine is Canadian (Albertan!) so that plus the Reynolds connection might explain those references.

Mark K
>>148550370

Yeah it was corporate but I wouldn’t call it uncreative. I think the measure of creativity can change from storytelling to meta-stuff and still be a worthy effort. Plus it’s appropriately timed to the nature of internet-based media. And hey, if Michael and Us Nation likes to be winked at by the creators why shouldn’t Marvel Nation? It’s parasocial bay bee...

murt pie

Hugh's jacked, man.

Liam Fuller

Goddammit guys, I wasn't gonna watch this, but the part of my monkey brain that wants to rubber-neck car crashes was activated by this episode.

Nick Playfair

Kind of makes you miss the days when this genre of movies were primarily designed to sell toys and merch. There was at least an honesty to that type of huckersterism. I don't know what to make of all this weaving of boardroom politics and mergers & acquisitions bullshit into the text other than it's an undeniably sign of a society in terminal decay.

murt pie
>>148930021

Back then there was also a clear demarcation between movies for kids and movies for adults that really doesn't exist anymore.

trasparenti

this is the ep that finally moved me to become a member of m&u nation. one of the funniest and most correct things I've ever heard

Bilbro T. Baggins

Okay, so I know you guys hated this. But I'm telling, this makes a great double feature with a bottle of bottom shelf liquor and the john leguizamo one man show.

Bilbro T. Baggins
>>155278094

You just alternate 30 mins of Jonny L's one man show with every 45 Mins of dpool and wolf, the juxtaposition of the "puta wings" story and the "fox superhero redemption fight" scene made me feel like Ralph Fiens in "The Menu" watching "Paging Dr. Sunshine".