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#560 - Carpe Diem (Patreon)

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First we saw him bring whimsy to the medical sector in Patch Adams... then we saw him make the army wacky in Good Morning Vietnam... now, we reach the conclusion of our "Robin Williams Trilogy" by going back to his mightiest-ever battle against the forces of fuddy-duddiness: DEAD POETS SOCIETY (1989). PLUS: A spectre is haunting Europe... the spectre of centre-left capitulation to the far-right.

See Luke moderate the Toronto book launch for Shifting Gears: Canadian Autoworkers and the Changing Landscape of Labour Politics - Friday, September 20 (tonight) at 7pm, Workers Action Centre - https://www.facebook.com/events/1187379669241057

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Chris Sherman

I will be voting for a Dead Poets Society vs Wolverine episode in 18 months.

Iain

Just wait a goddamn minute there, fellas! If this is the Robin Williams Trilogy, where does that leave Man of the Year?

James Waters

I’m sort-of hoping/dreading that this leads to an episode on ‘Jakob the Liar’, what seems among the most cursed movies of all time

Blank

YES stoked for this ep. Also solid intro

gcwolfman

Massive disrespect to RoboCop's Kurtwood Smith!

Blank

What if you read the film against itself as a criticism of gen x “individualism” as fundamentally empty and non-political? At the end they do nothing to change the institution much less society. In that way the walking around in a field and standing on a desk in a performative way is a searing indictment lol

Blank
>>149991603

Also, lol’d at the gym to “the diem carped back”

Theodore Hannoush

Wonderful pod as usual, but must say the drive-by on Kurtwood Smith was very nasty and unfair. He surely deserves to be remembered as sociopathic crime lord Clarence Boddicker in Robocop, and not as a sitcom Dad.

Ashley Naftule

I hope the boys tackle The Fisher King sometime because I think there’s a lot of meat on that bone, and it is the rare legit good Williams joint

Myles Bartoli

So, have you guys, or one of the Top Tier Michaelheads developed a matrix/spreadsheet of the movies yet? There are a lot of catergories that formed over the years, it could be something to see would could be ‘missing’ movie choices, like an incomplete periodic table?

Myles Bartoli

In defence of Honey, I Shrunk the Kids! It still holds up a kids’ film!

Jeremy Hawkins

I think the problem you're seeing with the newspapers is the shift from unconsciously neoliberal reportage to concious liberal reportage. Ideally, there would be journalists with a Marxist perspective, but I also don't think every paper needs to be Jacobin. I have friends who say the some of the clearest journalism can be found is the economist because it's just capitalists talking to each other with no pretense that it's for workers. If you're in the mood for a good movie and a Spike Lee movie I feel like now would be the perfect time for School Daze.

Horseloverfat

Teacher: Carpe Diem! No rules! Teenage boy student: I should kiss a sleeping girl America: beautiful message

Ligma

Eventually you guys are going to ruin The Breakfast Club for me too. Are there any fondly remembered 80s movies which are actually good?

Kenny Hedges

When Randy Newman won his Oscar, he made some crack about no one having a run of so many great movies in a row like Pixar, "except Peter Weir" and I really hope he was talking pre-Poet's..

John Van Atta

So… as to the good Robin Williams movies… what are they? Not the deconstruction Bobcat Goldthwait stuff, him doing his thing and it’s good. Trying to figure out where my fond memories come from

John Van Atta

As to Peter Weir, I think this movie is great when they’re outside at night and no one is talking

Axle steele

I saw this movie in theater when it came out (I was 11). I have not seen it since, but was convinced the kid that topped himself was gay until listening to the pod.

Kranky
>>149994613

Legit great character actor. He’ll always be red foreman though

Kijib

i forget do u guys like Good Will Hunting or do u see it as another Dead Poets

Kijib
>>150015901

if ur only counting comedy its prbly only ms doubt fire and alladin if were being honest maybe Hook too

Eric

The film’s thesis, “Medicine, law, business sustain life but poetry is what we stay alive for” is a recapitulation of (not a rebuttal to) “the Sciences progress humanity, the Arts just entertains us.” Poetry’s a garnish, not a tool of inquiry. The film agrees w/ its opposition that the Humanities are extraneous to the pursuit of knowledge—it just celebrates it as such. Which is exactly why Atari Dems could play it in every Eng class while cutting schools’ art programs.

Alex Moore

I think we all know the only good Robin Williams movie is that one where he plays that fantastical being who has to be a servant to the main character? where he's got that weird skin color, and wants his freedom? Bicentennial Man

Alex

I recently watched The World According to Garp for the first time since I was a wee lad, and I thought it was such a strange early Williams film. Some of the mawkishness is there, but then I felt like everyone else in the movie was acting in something far more abrasive than Williams. He feels like a bit player in his star vehicle, it’s odd. I also think there’s a low key Peter Weir trilogy from this podcast, from the highs of Picnic at Hanging Rock to the lows of The Truman Show and Dead Poets Society. Will, maybe there’s an Important Cinema Club to be done to get to the bottom of Weir’s oeuvre.

Dan Port

I'm not sure any amount of Patreon Yankee dollars is worth all this, guys.

Nick Hanser

Guys my highschool English teacher is never going to recover from this episode

Sam Schick

It’s laughable to think that the conglomerated media apparatus of the US has the capacity to fend off a fascist form of government, best it can do is redefine for us what is considered fascist.

sinesynced

I know it's obvious but what really gets me about movies like this and Good Morning Vietnam is that there's never a point to anything the Robin Williams character does. Like, he has no real outlook, values, goals, beliefs, methodology, or point. The movies are designed to seem like thought provoking challenges to orthodoxy and then they just half ass the part about what the challenge is. It's just a bunch of annoying scenes paper mached into a shapeless nothing story. You can read between the lines all you want and there's nothing there. I hated teachers like this in school--the classroom just becomes this little self serving performance space for the teacher to get attention, rather than actually teaching you anything.

James cullen

Y’all gotta continue the Robin Williams train and watch House of D next, where Robin goes simple jack.

Obvs Ofcourse

I don't know how you can argue (1) the NYTimes should be objective and not give in to resistance critics who want to turn it into MSNBC and (2) it's okay that the Times treats Biden's mental decline one way and Trump's another. You either want objective media or you don't.

murt pie
>>150068017

Biden's mental decline is worse than Trump's. Sorry, but it is. Trump's an idiot, but he can finish a sentence.

Ambrose Honeysuckle

Really appreciate the discussion about the severe flaws in how mainstream journalists approach things nowadays, especially in the era of such nauseating concepts such as “moral clarity” (Lowery was a classmate of mine at university, and he was just as insufferable then as now…except at that time, he was a McCain Republican who hated Obama).

P

This is how it feels to be in a class with Brian Massumi and Erin Manning.

Ekaterina Sedia

I’m here to once again beg for Moscow on the Hudson— mawkish whimsy but with outrageous accent and a really problematic view of Soviet defectors (posing as an uplifting message.) Williams also pretends to speak Russian in it.

Puet

I was a teenager when this garbage-ass movie came out. My friends and I enjoyed reading and writing poetry, so of course this movie fucking ruined everything for us. As a Northern Californian, I’m obligated to honor and protect Robin Williams’s memory, but, man, FUCK this lame-ass movie.

Shane

j*A*C*K

Alex
>>150034741

I don’t have an issue with it (I’ve not seen it since I was a kid), I was more referencing Will and Luke’s distaste for it in episode 330.

Ashley Naftule
>>149997767

I do love Jeter’s work in that movie and wish there was more for him to do in it, but nah. I think Robin’s shtick- the mania, the schmaltz- is intrinsic to making the movie work. It needs his bigness for Jeff Bridges to bounce off of.

Thomas

For some reason I thought Luke and Will already reviewed bicentennial man... Where Robin Williams teaches us the whimsy of immortality and androids having the human condition

Kieran Duffy

The cordon sanitaire term originated in Belgium as far as I know.