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AMA Stream #63c [Thursday @ 4pm ET] (Patreon)

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March 27

Hi all,

Here's the link for the AMA livestream that will begin tomorrow (April 9) at 4pm ET, and will likely run for a couple hours. The archive will remain linked here, so don't worry about missing it live! I'll be answering the final questions from the "AMA Stream #63" invitation post for $15+ Patrons (published a couple weeks ago and still open if you're interested).

Looking forward to chatting!

–Natalie

P.S. Here's the stream link in case there are embedding issues: https://youtube.com/live/1t-REuUvhdY

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ContraPoints Patreon AMA Stream #63b

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Anthonknee

Hi Natalie <3 Do you think you could post a list of the questions and/or put timestamps on the video please? Would be really appreciated :)

Darren DM

I will be setting aside 4 hours

demlet

My dumb ass forgot how to convert time zones again so I missed the live, but I just wanted to say that watching hair dry has never been so interesting.

Rose Dombegh

I find your tangent on liminal spaces very soothing

Warble42069

I think a soothing video would be one on music or a full liminal spaces video!

Queen Bee BumbleGee

Thanks for answering my question, my surgery is tomorrow morning so you were just in time! You do have me a bit curious about goat curries now lol

Lasha Bezhashvili

Jesus Christ my worlds of Yekaterina Schulmann and ContraPoints just collided

Rose Dombegh

If you end up doing a video about Girard/human sacrifice, you might want to take a took at Dan Carlin’s “Hardcore History” episode “Painfotainment.” It’s behind a paywall but worth it, and makes a compelling case that public executions throughout Europe were essentially a form of Christian religious human sacrifice.

Jan Vidra

The videos of yours that I put in the background while falling asleep are usually your gaming vods, specifically ones I know don't have harsh jumpscare sounds - this is unhelpful probably. Envy is my favorite video of yours and I'm pretty sure I fell asleep while having it on loop before, so... you have acomplished the goal of making soothing content to some extent is my point. The examples you mentioned - Elephan Graveyard, Supereyepatch Wolf and Jenny - I feel like they tend to take more time and build up the story/stories that they use before they get to their point of view, and that gives some of their videos more of a radio-show/reading a story before bed vibe - especially Supereyepatch Wolf really makes a show of it, probably because often the point is to hook you on the media he's talking about. You do have those moments in your videos too, but for the most part I find them to be pretty tightly packed with information that's quite compelling, and that is more stimulating than soothing - it unfortunately prompts the paying of attention. Idk if this is a useful observation, hopefully it's accurate at the very least :'D

Sam D.

Do NOT stop talking about politics but you can play soothing video games sometimes! I personally find some of the backrooms games very soothing (with only the occasional moment of alarm). Or have things degraded so much that a mere hum of background dread seems soothing? Or hey- stardew valley? I really enjoy the gaming streams. But this is a time where thoughtful political commentary is MUCH needed. Thanks for all the sides of Natalie!

Olivia Rollins

Soothe me to sleep with cooking videos. Walk me through your goat curry recipe.

Pee She-Her Man

I think the video on liminality is super soothing, and a great tangent

Cassidy Brinn

Soothing political content: I'd love to listen to you talk about political events/movements from the past that were good, inspiring, or funny. No need to relate it to the present whatsoever. Why all this focus on the present? Not too decadent and at odds with your aesthetic in other ways (you have a lute on your chair...) Remind us that the wheel of time keeps spinning and give us nice dreams 🌊

rk

How did I miss this 🤣 Ok…. Straight to the replay

soph

everyone wants to go to the colosseum but no one wants to read marcus aurelius anymore. it's the death of literacy.

William Jacobsen

Thanks for the answer, Natalie! About Butlerian Jihad: sadly, you will not hear anything about it in the Dune movies. If you want to know what it is, basically it's: (spoilers, but not really) An revolutionary war between mankind and AI, with mankind being the revolutionaries against the "thinking machines" that had oppressed them for decades. This all takes place many years before the event of the main story, and was hence not mentioned in the film. No idea what the name is about.

misslcd

So interesting to hear you speak about the evolution of your gender identity. I'm a cis woman and I spent my teens and twenties performing an exaggerated and largely superficial womanhood. I never felt like a 'proper' 'real' woman and I didn't even have transphobes screaming it at me. In my thirties it has been liberating to let go of some of that some of the time because I just care less about other people perceiving me as a stereotypically feminine / fuckable woman. Becoming more comfortable with the idea that masculinity and femininity are archetypes that all humans contain both of to varying degrees, and that woman does not have to equal high femininity at all times has felt so freeing.

Ahri Clevinger

Oh my haha, sir William Kirkpatrick, your status as a comedy icon and paragon of our time is beyond dispute. If you for some reason feel the need to seek counsel from a mere rube such as myself I'd say... Yes, you've spelled my name beautifully and no I don't wish to be stolen from my husband. In general my least favourite of your commentary is the stuff that includes giving women unwanted attention or stealing them etc. I give it a mere 9/10 instead of the 10/10 for everything else you write.

governmentfunding

Ex-vegan here. I've worked at a goat farm (the non-factory kind); I do think goats are incredibly cute, and they are quite lovely as individuals as well. IME directly interacting with farm animals really defused the apparent contradiction between meat consumption and compassion/care for animals. I think that feeling of unease many of us feel about meat consumption might be the result of industrial/urban/blablabla life having a more clean binary between "pets" and "food". (Only accounting for the psychological aspect here, not the strict-moral-reasoning stuff.)

Marisa

so... I JUST played Disco Elysium last year. I am NOT a leftist!! And I fucking fucking loved it!!! People contastly talk about this game as if it's the second coming of Karl Marx. Kind of obnoxious identitarian groupthink. But like, for realises: 1. that is cope 2. the writing in the game is maybe the best writing in a video game ever 3. it is morally ambiguous 4. it is extremely funny and poignant and psychoanalytically deep Nat, I duuno if you are ever going to read this. But you should ignore all the other people telling you to play Disco and go play it anyway. You don't even have to stream it. Just the first 4 hours. I've watched everything you've ever made and unlike thoes other fools I'm totally not projecting my own aesthetic taste onto you. plzplzplzplzplzplz trust me on this

Marisa

100%

william kirkpatrick

I am back. Went to Amy Goodman's movie. Did not realize she would actually be there. I actually walked out of the room her movie played in at the same moment as her and in the lobby did I want to go up to her and say something LOUD?No, I don't deserve to. I just said at a level speaking-voice outloud into the air, "I am Lazy. I am Stupid. And I'm a Coward." And thats why I should not post here. I just deleted my recent monolithic posts but I really want to say two things in addition to the above.....#1 the random letter posts....My cat?.........#2 I just want to apologize again to Ahri Clevinger for saying I want to steal her from her husband. That is just well...evil. My brain automatically tries to anatomize it. I do not know her; I am just reacting to her being cute and thin and pretty and liking my jokes and intentions with what I post here; her husband Does know her, and she knows him, so I feel I literally being greedy and sadistically selfish also trying well....."If she wants to fuck me she must Really like my ideas." so bad. bad bad bad bad bad. Nobody will think about what I post here now. And I want to post here again after I accomplish something I am proud of. So, shame shame shame. I hope the fact that I can't stop laughing while posting this does not mean I do not intend on being more aware of what I say in the future.

william kirkpatrick

just in case somebody has never seen it, you can find out how truly batshit crazy Helen Joyce is by watching Lily Alexandre's youtube The Feminist to Far-Right Pipeline from 2 years ago.

Crystaline

NATALIE I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE SHIRT YOU’RE WEARING ON DOOM SCROLL I WANT ONE REAL BAD plz ily

Crystaline

I’m sorry for the all caps. I was just really excited about your floral collared blouse with the bell (?) sleeves + pink ribbon around the waist area.. and i suspect it might be a custom piece but, if not, plz lmk. I like it so much and I wanna wear it!

Ahri Clevinger

If that were the case it would only be testament to the fact I'm the only one left with good taste. (But still, pls stop harassing women, it's passe, totally beneath your genius.)

william kirkpatrick

I just want to say I am sick of thinking I found another Contrapoints interview and I find out it is some asshole reviewing the recent interview and I wonder can I judge someone being an asshole just from his white privledged straight man tone-of-voice ?...yes....Whoa, I am too stoned to conceive of how to spell the word privledged

Kate

missed the question window! will you consider making a video / tangent on Rene Girard? (dont even get into the Peter Thiel stuff, just Girard’s philosophy at face value)

william kirkpatrick

I find myself violating my promise of not writing anything on here until I have accomplished something, but I dunno, I feel like writing on here I am writing to my family and I guess I just cannot stand people criticizing Natalie who just suck compared to her in every way. Usually I write on here and in the morning regret it. "O God I destroyed myself in the internet world again." But now I feel so freakin' confused I have to post here. I have made massive progress in learning this piece in honoring Contrapoints: Bach/Busoni Chorale Prelude #4 in G major. As I said in a recent post I cannot handle watching The Darkness. "You want to make a difference in the world but that takes work, and that hurts so lets just get high." A paraphrase with inappropriate quotation marks. But I think we all gotta find some kind of balance, and right now I gotta try to sleep and get up early and really think about what I can do to earn money playing the piano. I have one ballet class.....I have to go for every other one I can get. What the hell is wrong with me. If it comes down to it I should be able to move to Holland.

Kate

just got to 1:58:00 LOL. glad to see you agree

william kirkpatrick

Watching the new PBS Huertas film on youtube. My reaction to Trump being elected in 2024, "I'm gonna do everything Huertas says or her spokespeople and (jesus... is ...spokespeople really a word?)" but no response. What if they HAD responded? I could have done something. But #1 she has given up #2 her impotent organization is divided by county sinces they do NOTHING, thank got Benicio Del Toro brought me another can of Modelo!

Lewis

Little late, but the ending of Cringe (from 1:20:20 on) is very soothing. Yes it's ironic, but seems like a prime example of how to be soothing with more a political subject.

Joan

I do think you slightly catastrophized effective altruism (I did point out the incorrect part but you corrected yourself so here is my correction to the correction). I think the onus is not on sacrificing your quality of life for the betterment of others. I understand it as a framework for reducing suffering in the world, and if you make yourself suffer by trying to "be good," you're only adding to the world's suffering. As someone under the influence of effective altrusim to some degree, I see it more as acknowledging how lucky I am to have the quality of life I do and doing what I can to improve the quality of lives globally. You nor I would accept the indignity of the systems that subject people to poverty, suffering from treatable illness, or watching children subjected to terrible labor conditions. I started giving 10% to nonprofits I believe in & do my best to purchase ethical groceries when I can. It's not so much, really! Of course, the foremost suffering we can lessen is our own. But there is a serious line between reducing suffering and trying to solve the world's woes with more stuff.

Lasha Bezhashvili

CONTRA YOU GOT MENTIONED AT YEKATERINA SCHULMANN’S STREAM TODAY!!!

Arnav Dasgupta

Tangent! Tangent! Natalie I just watched your doomscroll interview and I strongly feel you should consider Episcopalianism

Ahri Clevinger

Idk why you'd regret anything you write. (Okay a couple things I get), but you're still easily my favorite commenter on any platform. If people don't like your comments they're probably just boring losers with no taste.

Darren DM

Didn't know about that interview until now, so thanks!

Rose Dombegh

Omg why please elaborate (I say as someone very fond of Episcopalianism) (John Green is an Episcopalian, for those who didn't know. I feel this is very important information to share)

Rose Dombegh

I feel like this is a very healthy approach to EA. EA's definitely spawned good things (like I really like the organization Give Directly). From my experience in the chapter on my college campus, though, the framework can also instill a kind of religious fervor in people that means nothing is ever enough. And they can become so convinced of their own correctness -- cause numbers, man -- that it's impossible to suggest any other way of thinking. It was why I eventually distanced myself: the quasi religious fever in my friends' eyes scared me. But I wish more people could approach it like you seem to, because I think a lot of good would come of it. It works really well for what it was designed for -- thinking about how to most effectively address worldly suffering with the resources people are willing to give.

william kirkpatrick

Who is Yekaterina Schulman? I will find out. I just can't stop laughing or wanting to laugh because the scene and some of the rhythm of Soderbergh's new movie is just like Zos Speaks by Kenneth Grant and Kenneth Grant visits an old painter (Austin Spare) who is a tall rambling old British extreme art guy (Ian Mckellan(and his character)) and Kenneth Grant looks exactly like Michaela Coel, a short skinny white man brit with the same nose and cheekbones. So now I am eating up ZOS SPEAKS, its on archive.org and also if you google Zos Speaks Kenneth Grant pdf, but I take a break and find out who Y Schulman is. Spare was a great painter who went around selling crude drawings of fat women sexually interacting with men and elaborate demon paintings and more-than-iconic witches etc. in ordinary London pubs after WW2, and during and before. Some differences in McKlellan's character and rambling subject matter, but the enthusiasm/the alcoholism same.

william kirkpatrick

Hey Lasha Bezashvy. Is the Schulman podcast where Natalie is mentioned english? HAHA She does the fighting swans for her theme.

william kirkpatrick

I just figured out how to drink champagne (terrible champagne, as terrible as me) and suck on a vape at the same time(the esophagus and lungs are actually not connected) and I wonder, "Do I read too much Baudelaire/am I wrong?all wrong" and I still want to avoid The Darkness because I can't handle it so I gotta take pictures for my Goth outfit when I play this stupid 3pd piano folding simulator that has nice fender rhodes and vibraphone sounds and I want to dress up as much like Natalie in The Darkness as possible without the "I'm a Woman" jesus! There was a Trans woman in SF whose name was OMAWEN and she played Nico Eco perfectedly in a play that never left the mission. Now it makes perfect sense to say "OMAWEN" and "I'M a WomaN" at once with all this Austin Spare shit in my head from Ian McKlennan playing him with this skinny Afro-British young woman who looks exactly like Kennth Grant if she were a white british man(looking for a mentor) plus I handwrit all the definitions of consonants and vowels by Aleister Crowley that I deconstructed from two little appendix sections of The Law Is For All. BUT.....I know people are getting uncomfortable but the MF he wrote a prayer book where if you read it vertically is unbelieveably dirty with every possible dirty thing that nuns still read in nunneries today maybe

william kirkpatrick

I am so sorry for commenting on myself and I just want to say in the Goth outfit with an 88 key keyboard fold-up on the street I play Liszt and Liszt style jazz like Misirlou and Billy Mayerl Note-for-note James P. Johnson, Fats Waller, Jan August, Colin Mcphee's gamelan. Maybe soon I can just put a web address here where I can show audio video photos, just thought of that.

william kirkpatrick

jesus I just realize I would never write on here if I wasn't kicked off facebook

Joan

Hahaha I suppose I never exposed myself to organized EA. Sounds like a bad vibe! It makes sense that this would happen, scaling to infinity being all the rage these days. Maybe I'll do my own EA schism and subsequent reformation for an EA with good vibes. I think John and Hank Green are basically doing this already, though. Admittedly, my whole schtick these days is basically them + Marilynne Robinson + trying to corral my own priggishness.

crucial-draft

about to watch now, i always think of a question after watching so i hope youll do another one soon! ty <3

william kirkpatrick

I was cut off. All sorts of paranoid theories. I reenlisted at the 10$ tier because ....where would I be without Contrapoints? I am in a dark space. I feel like I cannot resist how I just feel all messed up waking up in the cheapest motel possible on Lombard and then finding out I gotta walk from Steiner to Van Ness to get a good cup of coffee. I could of walked 7 blocks up Steiner but walking down Lombard seemed like the best bet, but it was a long tortuous walk and I NEED coffee. I also probably need Adderoll(I somehow enjoy mispelling it) and then I lost my unlimited Bart card (Clipper) and I keep on thinking of Natalie crying over how beautiful the GG bridge is. O SHIT. WTF? Baltimore must be unbelieveably ugly. And why don't frekin' Natalie and John Waters hang out? John Waters does not realize how Natalie is our one and only hope for great filmmaking on Youtube. In my parallel universe of great movies John Waters and Natalie are always working together. But its just like a lot of connections I wish I could make personally. There just is no John Waters/Contrapoints connection even though there should have been a million years ago. LOOK AT ALL THE DUMB SHIT WE ALL HAVE TO WATCH WITHOUT....THEM!!!!!!!

william kirkpatrick

Uh ....I don't see the comment I just made but I want to make another one. My life is incredibly strange now. Ahri Clevinger is really my only friend other than Paradox Pollack. I have to try to live differently and try to just play the piano and stop messing around and I am totally freaked out, but I have to just play the piano and remember that its everything like how Natalie plays Debussy's Reverie for the the credits on Shame.

william kirkpatrick

woa I wish I understood how this shit works and why I see things I posted on here I do not like and when I post something I want to see it is gone, and also, what does Natalie see? but I am watching the new documentary about Nixon and its rough for me because my dad has Nixon body language even though he is a bigtime democrat, but yeah PBS rocks, what a sad time we live in. I hope our next president is not a F'n republican.

william kirkpatrick

JESUS CHRIST, the only thing we get from Natalie is Apr 9 and its May 10th! AAAAAAAh!? Well this is kind of at the heart of my enormous pain; how does one go about producing great, inspiring art.? Clearly Natalie is doing stuff before she gets back on board with 16 hr days like Lloyd Kaufman's slaves at Troma. I am mainly writing on here because Ahri Clevinger loves reading everything I write....but....why? And then I have this distant hope that Natalie will read what I write here and I hope that Natalie and Zoe as well might like my music. There is a new Queen Coke Francis .....shit.....I love Queen Coke Francis so much that if she would not let me suck her toes I would lick her beautiful asshole ......sorry if thats gross......but she is so goddamned funny, and really angry too in the right way......I used to always experience this thing when playing the piano for people that I was growing tits and a vagina, and it always horrified me, but after discovering Contrapoints, especially after watching The Darkness, I am PROUD of it, and also don't you think that big-time hetero bliss experiences kind of involve becoming one with your partner, truly one, not just slamming it in there, unless thats what she desperately wants. Been nice talking to you again, Ahri. I just gotta move to SF. I can't stay here at my mom's house in Sebastopol anymore. I got to accept whatever Craigslist roommates has to offer. Any place E of 9th ave N of Cesar Chavez or near an Oakland or Berkeley Bart station. If I am in SF I can go to dive bars and burning man parties. I don't have to embarrass myself commenting on the greatest-youtuber-of-all-time's Patreon.

william kirkpatrick

here I am replying to myself again like the schizo-narcissist I am, but I gotta add.....Tahoe OG .....OMG......Tahoe OG is the best strain, it kind of feels like a chemical, like a psyche med or oxy but it also reminds me of smoking a powerful joint the one time I went skying, on the sky lift, and then falling down in the snow hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

william kirkpatrick

Damnit! I wanted ti reply to myself again but I can't find what I just posted, but I just want to say I find myself in tears seeing Queen Coke Francis trying to help this one single family in Gaza....what a wonderful thing to do, to help one family in Gaza, plus Queen Coke Francis is just always so flawlessly funny and righteous. Her new video is about gay conservatives. If there are any gay conservatives out there reading this I hope it works out for you, but its kind of like being a Jew cooperating with the Holocaust, but there WERE quite a few of those, thank you Hannah Arendt.

william kirkpatrick

I am overjoyed I get to watch 3 Queen Coke Francis youtubes plus there is a new Jon Oliver. What does that have to do with Natalie? Its how I am coping with waiting. Guess I am not going to miss the next opp to ask her a question, which will be "How do you negotiate time on break and getting something done?" Not an accusation, just, maybe we have the same problem, yet I have never put anything on video anywhere near as charismatic and compelling as every single Contrapoints youtube.

william kirkpatrick

I am empathizing with Natalie right now even though I watched Bridgette Empire's recent video about Contrapoints and sympathize with Hasan also. I had a horrible experience just now. Why doesn't Natalie submit to being interviewed by Amy Goldman? But I cannot help saying, putting Natalie down is F'd up because why can't You confront the fascist establishment like Natalie did for more than decade.....Also I have to say Natalie's influence on me is that I distrust straight white men in general and I believe that there is a woman in every straight man and Steve Martin and Robin Williams attest to this but I do not think that them, Richard Pryor included realized consciously they were getting in touch with their female side.....but maybe they did

Nathaniel Lapp

I'm leaving because of Palestine. It seems difficult to fathom that someone as educated as Natalie can willingly fall for liberal propaganda that protects Israel and denies genocide. But then I remember how these Enlightenment universalist principles always had caveats that deny humanity to undesirable and exploited peoples. peace out, and free palestine.

Nikola

girl where are you what is going on

Brooklyn Fudge

Seeing nothing but hate online for you right now, it’s so disheartening, but I joined today to maybe help in my own small way

Grady Wiehe

Eyes Wide Shut Tangent? It seems the fashionable thing to do on this page is to say I’m happy to support even if there are no videos…but I am kinda curious about videos. I know this is…not the best time, but an announcement one way or the other would be nice

Kayla Spencer-Bakes

I find all your videos soothing because it is very soothing to hear someone still out there that has nuanced opinions and can articulate them so well x

Alison Ludwig

Re: Reservoir Dogs, I remember hearing a clip from an interview where Tarantino said (paraphrasing) that while working with the actors on set he realized that the story was an allusion to the father-son relationship and that it represented how he felt about his relationship with his dad, and he vowed to himself to never make a story like that again. He jokes about it but basically it was the most honest film he ever made and (in my opinion) it kind of scared him to be artistically honest like that. That could be why Natalie honed in on it as her favorite and likes the character of Mr. White as well. He might be the most revealing character Tarantino ever wrote.

Gemma Paterson

omg, by Ethical Altruism does Natalie mean Effective Altruism? Peter Singer is quite extreme tbf. I think the 10% Giving What We Can pledge is more doable for normal people. It doesn't change the world but it's easy to forget how rich we are in western countries compared to the average person in the world. If your post tax income is more than $65k, you are in the global top 10% of earners. https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/pledge https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/handbook

Patrick

P.s. No worries if this request of mine isn’t for you personally. However, if possible, could you please get in contact with Dorian Bridges (A.k.a. Of herbs and altars)? They are a UK-based Addiction recovery influencer, who uploads content to YouTube and Insta. I’ve also DMed them on Insta & Patreon, but given it’s just me, they might think I’m a bot or a scammer. Thanks, Patrick

Patrick

P.p.s. Please reply either a yes or a no to one previous comment.