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Hey guys, 

I just got this in my inbox, thought you should know asap. As a creator, Patreon takes 5% of pledges, and then Payoneer/Stripe etc will take another 5-6% for processing, meaning creators usually get about 89% of pledges. Now they're passing that second charge onto you. What this means is they'll charge more for each pledge.

I think that's bollocks, as 89% is something I accepted as part of using Patreon, and it will turn people off making multiple small pledges (since now Patreon are charging per transaction).

for example (excluding VAT):

Before - You give 8 different creators $1 each: You spend $8 

After - You give 8 different creators $1 each: You spend $11.03

So you get stung for an extra $3.03 (a whopping 38% of the original pledges in this case!). That sucks. 

(Check my maths! Each donation costs 2.9% of $1, + 35c => 2.9c + 35c = 37.9c per transaction. 8 transactions is $3.03)

Anyway, with the holidays closeby and pledges costing more, please look after yourself first and don't worry about us!

Back to beavering away at B4G (it's going great btw!)

See ya in the funny pages!

Jay

p.s. I'm attaching the email I got so you can see, and I've emailed Patreon asking them to opt out. Cheers!

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Comments

Nick Dufrene

Greedy fucking bastards... they're just like YouTube. They're sick of creators making so much money, they have to find a way to screw them over. This time, they're trying to turn the fans against them by making them pay extra. How is that fair or even morally acceptable?

Jack Morgan

Great stuff Jay! Shows your and the lads characters that you'd post about this in the manner you have. Amazing to see you're still doing it because you love it and not turned for the money! A big thumbs up (to you, not patreon)

Luke Bennett

Thanks for being so open with this Jay. I appreciate that you have always said "take care of yourself first" when it comes to making donations. Personally, I feel I owe you and Steve-olution more than any amount I could pledge on a regular basis - so fuck it. December is a difficult financial month but there's no way I'm dropping to a lower pledge. Keep doing what you're doing. A winner is you !

Al

I only donate to OSW and I'm going nowhere (in kayfabe and shoot sadly lol). Maybe start selling some GF gold barrrs to offset the difference haha

Mr. Fretz

I thought you couldn't use the stinger anymore.....oh shite that's boxing...greedy cunts..

Daniel Roberts

Is there a way on here to donate less frequently, so once every quarter or 6 months or something? Would lessen the transaction charges.

Beau Wyatt

Jay, Maybe have a "memberships" section on the actual OSW website and people can just pledge via that?

Ry Mo

I just did my Steiner Math on this, and it should mean you're actually paying me $141+2/3 per month now. See Jay, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you on Patreon.

Tee Lee

Thanks for being as transparent as always, Jay. Makes me happy to keep supporting even with this nickel and diming bullshit on their part. Best holiday wishes and good health to you and the guys!

David Beattie

Just give us your bank details and we'll cut out the middle man and give the money straight to you!

Simran Omega

Hey Jay, if you cant opt out, another solution could be to lower the tiers costs across the board. I.e instead of $2 its $1.50, $4.50 instead of $5, etc. so the supporter is still only spending what they originally planed. Just an idea.

Chad Reynolds

Just pop round my house and I'll give you a tenner. Happy Holidays Guys!

Stephen Wilson

That's a bit cheeky, but I will continue to support you guys. I don't subscribe to Netflix or the WWE network or anything & I do believe in supporting stuff you enjoy. So you can all have a can of coke on me & have enough left to pay Virgil

Pedro Hodges

Jay don't you worry about it. I enjoy your product no matter what and I would like to help you pursue the things that you love. The price of that support does not concern me. Keep up the cracking job you guys are doing the gods work. :)

SexBook _____ ADULT PHOTO AND VIDEO SIGNATURES

Recently I came across a petition, where people subscribe, so that this innovation is canceled. Perhaps not all is lost. I can throw off the link if someone is interested.

A2Sheds Jackson

Hey Jay, I always appreciate your up-front updates and emails. Thanks for the heads up, but I can handle the changes and I plan to keep supporting you guys! Keep up the awesome work :)