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^^^ From how Patreon explain their new system.

Hey brahs and bras, wanted to give you my thoughts and explain the situation: 

What is it? Patreon want to stick you with transaction charges instead of the creators.

When is it? In 10 days. No changes right now, we've until 18 Dec to change their mind!

Why the change? To "standardize charges" (a flat fee of 2.9% + 35c) to allow:

The good: fans will be charged whenever they join and whenever a creator makes a paid post, not all together at the start of the month. This 'rolling' payment protects creators and makes it fairer for people joining late in the month. However, this changes nothing with NoggerU, as we're monthly with no charge up front. 

The bad: This means a ton of small charges instead of aggregating it in one lump monthly charge, which means PayPal's about to get a lot richer, at your and my expense. (Patreon are also charging creator-to-creator pledges). 

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How does this affect OSW and You? (Partners in freedom!) 

I did some quick maths (we usually get 89% of pledges). On average:

At $1: your 38c extra gives us 6c

At $2: your 41c extra gives us 12c

At $5: your 50c extra gives us 30c

At $10: your 64c extra gives us 60c

At $20: your 93c extra gives us $1.20

At $50: your $1.80 extra gives us $3

So you can see at lower pledges you get boned for very little extra, not even accounting for VAT. There's been a massive backlash to this, and Patreon have already softened their stance, so they've until the 18th to change their mind. I think they'll bottle it like EA and keep things as is, so nothing will change. We'll wait and see. Have of read of this fantastic thread why Patreon is doing this. Cunt of the year or what!

What can I (I being you!) do?Contact their help desk and tell them you're against it.(Get Help -> I'm a patron -> My pledge) Enough pressure and they'll abandon the changes :)

BTW if money is tight, consider dropping pledging to us to cover the increased cost of other pledges (or just saving for Christmas!)

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TL/DR? If this goes ahead, most of you will be charged an extra 50-64cents to support us. Please contact them to voice your disapproval and we'll get this cancelled!

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Regularly scheduled update coming later on! See ya in the funny pages :DJay

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Paul Reaney

No chance I'm dropping my pledge brah! OSW is worth my $5 and more! Keep up the good work and thank you for everything :-D

Queen of Nothing is Dead

In the Help section you mention should I say " Dear Patreon, Can you please stop fucking me in the arse? ". I love how you broke this down for me and there is no way this was quick math. That would take me atleast an hour and my numbers would still be wrong.

Beau Wyatt

so I pledge $5 to OSW and $5 to Wrestletalk and every month i get $13.24 taken out of my account (guessing that extra is to account for the fact the Australian dollar is slightly lower than the American dollar) now, while I can afford the extra $1 a month this change is going to cost me I'm really not impressed at pateron for this. having said this ain't NO FUCKING WAY I'm dropping or stopping my pledge! as long as this is the crowd funding platform you decide to use then I will continue to support you on it! It will be interesting to see what Kick-starter do in response to this! and also PayPal, because they could potentially capitalize on this and implement a system just through PayPal making Pateron redundant.

Al

Like V1 and Neflix you have my money for life because I'm too lazy to cancel it lol - only joking of course. I'm a bit lucky in that you're my sole Patreon so it doesn't affect me much. Whatever way the wind blows I'm keeping it OSW

Savan DePaul

NO CHANCE IN HELL am I giving up the pledge, that NoggerU content is too good. I shall now join the frontlines and get the pushback rolling.

Eric McDaniel

If it were an issue of money for me, I'd rather drop another pledge to continue supporting OSW, but I won't be doing either of those things. Thank you Jay for being entirely upfront and on our side for this. You're the only creator I pledge to that's even mentioned this. Keep up the great work!

MoonSpider

I aint giving up my pledge. im good for now, although it sucks that various other creators have been losing some members because of this.

Aziz Jiwani

Thanks for being upfront Jay. Much appreciated. I intend to keep my pledge since you guys are my only ones on Patreon. Do feel for other creators though. Patreon managed X-pac heat on this.