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Hello loves.

Well, fuck, as they say.

I'm here and reading all the comments and here to chat in realtime tonight, so please vote and write in. I'm reading and answering right now.

I just had a little come-to-jesus moment in the kitchen and am taking a page out of my own literal book. I am asking. Art of it. 


I have had an overwhelming time lately, trying to prioritize work, home, kid, life, writing and projects. 

I've been stumbling with the collision of mothering, running the new household, unpacking, the start of a new school, finding help, connecting with the past and my old life and friends, digging out of the email and text inbox mountain, and trying to keep it all hanging together in the wake of August, getting Covid, and all that was supposed to get "caught up" in the Great Catching up. I did not fucking catch up. I feel further behind. I just went to a wedding of an important person in my life. I had Ash for four days solo and thought I'd be able to write in the morning hours. Oh, you sweet optimist. It didn't happen. He kept waking up at 6am. 

I wish I could write about the wedding (it was Anthony's widow, Laura), and what it all felt like, up to and inducing the friends who feel I've turned into an absent ghost. It's on the nose. I have. I know. 

I wish I could write about everything happening right now. It's how I process. Yet, I can't. I feel so short-shirfted, like time is disappearing before my eyes like quicksand. And I know many can relate right now. Everything feels so wonky. I am trying to prioritize so many things and feel like I'm failing in every department.

Being a patronage-based artist-mother has been so wonderful and yet so agonizing at times. 

This is one of those agonizing times.

I try to be honest with you. I can honestly say right now that I don't really know what to do, and as I sat with my head spinning at the kitchen table, staring into a candle, I realized I should just come straight to the source - you're the source - and ask. Now you gotta be honest with me.

So: I had two thing tee'd up to "thing" this month: 1) the Althing/newsletter - which is always a long post to assemble and write - and 2) an "Ask Amanda" column which has been percolating in my heart and brain. 

I chose an "Ask Amanda" question a few weeks ago and sent the topic (it's about whether or not to have a child right now, good lord, yep) to my usual freelance illustrator Sarah Beetson, who already finished the illustration, which is gorgeous....and she even added her own answer (she was a mum on the fence as well). The copy editor, Rina Bander, is standing by. If I really focus and write for 5-6 hours tomorrow, I can nail it. I can write most of the Althing on Thursday, it's 90% finished. 

I worked on the column today and....well, it's really good. I like writing fast and hard. It needs work. It's not done. I can DO IT. I know I can, because I'm a good, fast writer. But also, I'm freaking out because there are so many other Life things to deal with. And, of course, that's part of what the column is about. (I'm not blind).

If I play my cards right, I'll tie my ass to a chair and write the column (and the Althing) during most of tomorrow (Wednesday) and Thursday, and these two "things" would come out back-to-back. The column would ideally be published in the next 48 hours (on Medium, along with a video reading, which I'd need to record as well) and the Althing would be published on Friday, and it'd all "get in" before the 30th, which is my deadline to get two posts in before the end of the month. (And I can hear Hayley's voice in my head, by the way, chiding me to switch my patreon model to be monthly, and not per thing. That's a long story for another post).

I looked at the clock and the calendar.

I started getting cold feet. I worry.

I stared into a candle and thought: what should I do. What should I do?

And the little answer came back to me:

Ask.

Ask the patrons.

So I'm asking, and here's my conundrum:

I'm afraid that publishing two pieces of writing/content (the Column and the Althing) immediately back-to-back - possibly even having to publish them on the same day if they run into one another and the column edit and formatting takes a moment - will just irritate everybody and I'll see a quiet drop-off in patronage.

I want you all to be very, very honest with me and tell me how you're feeling about the cadence of the patreon and the releases, and how you even feel about being charged for the patreon and this "we are paying for Amanda to write columns" concept. 

I worry that releasing two pieces of content like this right on top of one another will just hurt your eyeballs.

I don't feel at all guilty about being paid to write. I love it.

But I don't want to lose your faith.

I imagine that the people who answer the poll will probably vote for me to write and publish as I have time, as I see fit. Go ahead, you'll probably say. That's usually what happens. 

But maybe that won't happen.

I'm not doing this because I need affirmation, although the affirmation is always nice. 

I just want to see what you really think, and how you vote. Honestly. 

If you tell me that you're a little tired of seeing me work like this, I'll delay the column til next month. It won't break my bank or the business. It'll free me up to clean and organize the house tomorrow instead of writing. I'll probably just thing three things in October, instead of two.

And mostly, this is just a post to see how everybody is feeling about the cadence of things in general. 

Don't tell me, by the way, to "thing" organizing my house. That's a nice thought, but it's not art.

I've been focusing this month on domestic stuff, Ash, home, hearth, going to a friends wedding, playdates, and I've been writing very little, and making very little art. I know it will change, but right now...this just is what it is. 

If you're wondering: why is she going to spend the next hour and change talking in patreon comments, instead of working on her column...it's because I have the brain bandwidth to chat right now, but not to write. I spent all day writing, working on the to-do list, and my brain is fried. But when my brain is fried, I want to chat.

I also like that this process is real. It's real. I still fucking love that this is real and I can come here, and relieve my lonely anxieties, and talk to you. And ask.

So.

Talk to me. I'm going to make a cup of tea and go take a shower for the first time in days and come back.

xx

AFP


Comments

Andi Stern

My father died suddenly on the 13th and having y’all here is helping me feel less like I’m just going to spin off into space. Whichever content you end up going with will be the right one (hugs)

Sean Wheeler

I can only speak for myself. I’ve been here since day one, and I’m not leaving for anything. I can’t always keep up with everything you do, and I can engage even less. Life, it takes more energy than any of us have. Do what you can, what you are comfortable with, and I’m sure your diehards, like me, will be just fine with it. Much love.

Melissa Mykal

You are not an art factory where there is a nice little assembly line where art magically pops out at regular intervals. I don’t partake of your art in regular intervals either. Sometimes work and life is terrible and I come up for air every few days, and dig in. Sometimes things are balanced and I read when things are posted. I don’t think there is an answer that will be perfect for all people, since our situations are constantly changing. Thing all the things, if you can. But let it go if it’s too much right now.

AJ

Amanda.... breathe. We love you.

Jayesse

Thank you for modeling self-care while being a working mom. Rest is an act of resistance. You giving yourself permission to rest inspires others. ❤️

Quinn Rose

I can wait to hear more music when you have the capacity to invest in it the way you want to and am happy to be here in the meantime.

Raye.Guns

Honestly, just here to vibe and be a supporter, not a consumer. Here because I like you and the music you make. Here because I have the good fortune to be here. I know it's your livelihood. I know it's dumb to say "don't worry about it" but like ...I've been with you all through New Zealand. I'm not going anywhere. Do what feels right in your heart. I'll stick around. 💙

Sam

I say leave it be, with the full love of everything you do, but also the acknowledgement that I am a single woman, living alone who has 2 weeks of holidays right now and for the first time in a long time, I am not needed elsewhere during this time. So I am taking it and making the time mine. I am deep cleaning my house, I am catching up on work. I am going to read a damn book. The time that you have is yours to use. So take it and clean the house and work on things that are not work. We will still be here and we will still love you when you have the spoons to come back.

Paul Willett

I will NEVER lose faith in you. Publish what you can when you can. The universe has had an order of magnitude or three of additional chaos and all of the old assumptions and standards have to be reevaluated and flexible at best, tossed out the window like a Russian oligarch at worst. ❤️

the raven

honestly? you could probably use the time to organize and just take a breath rather than bang out the column right now. if you didn't have your heart set on getting it done this month, you might as well give yourself a break and just do the allthing for now.

Jacque Goodman

Whatever you choose to do, I will be here. Do what feels authentic for now. We know how much you (and all of us) are going through. We will be here.

amandapalmer

rest is an act of resistance...my god....i want that tattooed. i have so much to say about this...because being well-and-fully-crowdfunded is such a high honor. but it's such a bizarre set of choices. it's like parenting in many ways, when you can never know if you're making the right decision about your time and attention.

amandapalmer

it is coming. it's all going to pour out with the dresden dolls. it's just going to take a while.

Paul Willett

I’m sorry, Andi. ❤️ I hope you can find moments of calm in the chaos and joy in the sorrow.

Suzanne

Amanda, dear, love... Breathe. Don't force yourself to do the article. You did A LOT this month. Even if they aren't "thing'd". You had spontaneous webcasts. You are working on the Dresden Dolls concert. You are still physically recovering. You took your dad home. So take a day or few off. Pull yourself together. I just finished one of my big projects for work and made myself wait to unpack the house until I wasn't lose my mind exhausted. Tonight I'm at my remote sites, so I'm in my usual hotel, my home away from home, chilling out on a couch in my room, knitting and listening to an audiobook. I even finished my fucking expense reports at work this afternoon. Tell ya what... My 48th birthday is next Monday. For my birthday, please take a break? Take some time to chill around the house and do things for yourself. That would be awesome. Love you. xx -Suzanne

Kacey Anisa

Which one allows you to be kinder to yourself? I want that one.

Jordan

I have capped my pledge, so you do you. Do what you have to; that’s why we’re here.

Angel Rosen

I have missed you. I'm thinking you should try to do both - I mean, why not? My only reservation is that if you don't know if you'll be able to do anything content wise for October, then maybe save it for halfway through October?... (although that gets in the way of the need for instant gratification on the writing thing which I know is important.) I think if you double post and lose anyone, it'd be someone who was already going to have to unsubscribe for their own personal reasons. That wouldn't be the thing that pushed them to the button. If you're worried people won't be able to meaningfully process either thing if two long posts are posted too close, I think that's a valid concern. But so many of us do miss you, so for me personally it'd be a treat. If you choose to space them out a little, I think the benefit is that people will be able to give more thoughtful attention to each separate thing. But again we miss you so... it may not be *too much* but the *just right* amount Do you need help with anything for the although?

Laurian Richards

Here is my feeling, as a very low-rent patron: do your things according to the flow you and your family need. If it's one this month, and three the next, fine. If it's two each, fine. I hate when others try to judge my activities according to their own priorities. And btw, parent education and support is my vocation. Do what is right for you and Ash. Always.

Pamela Kirsch

Hi. I love you. Everything is very wonky. You are not alone. Going through what you went through with Anthony with my own mentor. I say do whatever the fuck you want. I feel like you’d tell me that. Sending all the love and hugs) <3

Carmen J

I don't mind back to back but Amanda, we love you. Give yourself a break and don't overdo it all, you're barely a month after Covid and huge life upheavel. x

Smashy Baren

I don't mind if you do both, if that's an option. If you only have the capacity to do one then do one. The more you chase playing catch up, the harder it's going to be to know when you actually have.

Spider Mann

Do as you need, not as we want. I’m always happy to support, and that includes supporting your decision.

Aqualynne Carnahan

I can't vote (might be my phone.) I think one, which gives you a head start for next month (next week already???) with the other.

Nora Czy

I voted for two things as you don't need to worry about us getting too much of your content. BUT don't push yourself to do them both if it's going to stress you out. Brains work funny sometimes. Go where the inspiration takes you. And seriously if it makes sense to stream yourself getting chores done then that will help and be encouraging to so many more people than you think. I have read more cleaning books than I thought it my lifetime and it motivates. Thank you for being you and sharing and asking us. Much love.

Mark Gerard

Hey, I just want to say that since I've become a Patreon, you make me feel not alone anymore.. loved. Keep being you, your amazing. Much love 💕

Beth Stein

Everything feels so hard for everyone right now. I think we should all only do one thing a month until it gets easier. Or, as close to one thing as we can each can get without it Our lives, I mean)all coming undone.

Rhianna Helton

I love your voice notes, and long posts, and essays and just ALL of it … BUT, I don’t think ANY of your Patrons—who all love you very much—would begrudge you taking a hiatus for the rest of the year. Everyone needs a break sometimes. And I guarantee that most of us wouldn’t stop our payments either so you could still pay your staff. You need real rest for a few months to let it all settle and mend. XO

Angel Rosen

Andi I am very sorry for your loss ❤️ we are here making space for you

Hazel

Do what you will. Create, don't create. We are here because we care and want you to live well for the love you put in the world. We are not here because we want a certain amount of things-per-time to be satisfied.

Mollie Isaacks

Much like Sean, I’ve been here since day 1 and can’t keep up with everything. That doesn’t mean I’m leaving anytime soon! I just go through the posts when I have a little extra time. I always seem to find the things that resonate with me. You’re recovering from Covid, taking on single-parenting after a huge move, getting back into a life that was paused in very weird ways for 2+ years, and you produce art. That’s a lot. I know you’re incredible creative and part of that is having lots of things in progress. I’m happy to give you space so the creativity keeps bubbling to the surface. I hope you’re able to find some peace to slow down and do things in the time they need, without forcing to meet a deadline.

amandapalmer

aw you sweetie. the althing is almost all set. maybe i'll just wake up and see what the new days has to say. i'm also aware that i am - literally, right now - fucking exhausted. and that's when my brain tends to think the wrong things.

Rachel Hawkins

I hear you on the hard and fast writing. That's my preferred speed, and it feels good, but it also burns us up so fast. I'm happy with whatever you choose, but whichever it is, I hope it's the thing that makes you feel best. Xoxo

JessTCreate

I'm in the 'thing one thing a month and I'm happy' bucket. Part of why I am a patron to you is so that you have the resources you need to fuel your mind, body, and soul to create. If you have things you need to do outside of creating art to keep your mind, body, and soul in check - please use my money to do those things so you can keep moving forward. I happily give you my resources to live AND create. 💜

Lori Kitzing

I don't read/ingest everything immediatly when you put it out. In fact, this weekend I went back and finally watched the livestream you recorded the night of your last (cancelled) world tour performance (Over two years later, it was still great). My knee-jerk reaction to your question is 1) Do you need the small victory of getting two things done right now? Would it make you feel good to have that focus? Or 2) Is it just overwhelming? I don't care much about volume. Sometimes you put out a lot and sometimes you step back. Let the art flow as it needs to. Don't push yourself...unless to push yourself would give you joy right now. We've got you, Amanda.

Mike Ross

You be you! Do what feel right. Love you.

Cate Whitehead

I also will 'never lose faith with you' Amanda. There's some familiarity I am acknowledging right now in my own day-to-day. Do what moves you, dear one, and we are here, always, well, I am. You are a woman with a life. We as patrons have the extraordinary position of watching, listening and supporting you and in doing that, we are able to share our lives with you. We will always be here, dear Amanda. I have only recently recovered from pneumonia, four days in hospital, and today feeling much, much better. This has given me cause to examine my priorities. So, do what your heart tells you.

Reiganlief

I’ve been here a long time, I don’t notice schedules and dead lines anymore. I contribute because I know when I need to, I can look in and see connection. If there are posts to catch up on that’s fine. If I’m up to date I’ll re read and discover something new. I’ll continue to contribute financially in the hopes that you can continue at your own pace when you need to. Always. There are no deadlines that matter. Clean your house. Fill your cup. We will be here anyway. X

Fenstar

stretch and yawn and do whatever you have the capacity for. Listen to your body and we will be here.

Maria

My opinion for myself: As a $1 patron you could go up to 10 things a month and I wouldn't care. Do what works for you. Is there the option to set a max monthly amount still? I could use that if needed.

Susan Compton Smith

I agree with @AndiStern, that whatever you chose will be the right choice. That said, however, I would throw my hat in the “Do the one that allows you the self-care/headspace you currently need” option, which I did not see as a choice in the poll. ;) You can never write/post/thing too much for me, personally; I can always read/enjoy Things at my leisure once they are available (I often save them to enjoy later, during the rare quiet moments, anyway).

amandapalmer

aw, thank you lori. sometimes i think i should stop making art for six months and just learn how to organize my historical art on the internet. it's a mystery to all of us, how to do that.

Suzanne

You're adorable. Can't wait to see you in November. For the record, the conversion of the nurse-call system at one of my hospitals is being scheduled AROUND the concert. I told the vendor it can't happen the week I'm gone, they'll have to wait until I get back. "I'm going to be completely inaccessible in the middle of New York somewhere." He noted it on the calendar, because it can't happen without me. I find this oddly hilarious.

Julia Mason

I vote rest. Rest and recover.

Katie King

I’ve said this before, I’m with Hayley. A monthly membership fee makes the most sense to me especially with cap. I’m $5 member and get the $5 benefits but I’m capped at $15. I’d be good with a flat $15 a month. I voted for do the 2 things this month, but with that said it’s more about your schedule and ability to get it done. I consume your content on my own time. Sometimes I go back and catch up and sometime I miss things…it’s life.

Caitlin Brown

Wow I'm actually a bit surprised that the vote is as split as it is so far - but it's still early. I voted for you to feel comfortable putting out two things, but I wanted you to be aware that you certainly don't have to. I can relate to you quite well right now... I have two girls, 2yo and 3 months, I just went back to work from maternity leave 3 weeks ago, and 2 weeks ago my husband blew his knee and can't walk. I have to do everything. I have to help him get all his meals, and I damn well better get the girls fed for every meal too. All the cleaning, all the laundry, all the dishes, oh and go back to work. Let's just say that we're getting a lot of takeout and everything that can be cut, will be cut. And that's just fine. You never know how strong you are until you have to be.

Cassandra Bunk

Do both, or one, or none. Take care of yourself and your family. You'll have my support either way. I'm a single mom working two jobs. I GET IT. I'm also a $10 patron, but my pledge is capped. So the way I figure it is that if you post nothing you still get money if you post five things you still get the same money it all evens out in the end and this is what patronage is about. Some months are just keeping the Amanda bus rolling and some months are blowing us away with art. And it's all worth it.

ArGii

Do “The One Thing”. It’s a book. I read about a page of it and that’s it. But I enjoyed that page. It literally explained the book. If you can’t do 10 things, do 5. If you can’t do 5 things, do one. That one thing will help spiral into other things down the line, even if you do one thing out of those things. Also, read Santigold’s message if you haven’t. Many artists are feeling the same way lately.

bluefoxx

It's not a problem that you would thing two things back-to-back for me. I think trying to meet the deadlines for two awesome things is too much and you shouldn't have to rush to do both. I say chillax and thing the usual State of All Things. That way you can have an option of "leisurely" writing the column in, perhaps, 24 hours vs. 5 hours. You are cool. I upped my patronage last month because I felt bad for not interacting more and want to impress that I love Amanda Fucking Palmer. As you are, all the time, with every change and every constant. ❤️

Amanda K Wagner

You're no good to us or your family burnt out. It's all good. 🤗

Angel Rosen

right, you don't have to do anything! nothing is owed other than owing it to yourself to take care of you. whatever option here takes best care of you is the most likely the right one to make for the patreon

Shanel Wilson

You posting in a row isn’t going to fatigue me, or I suspect many of us. Do what feels right and what makes your brain less crazy. That’s all any of us can ask of ourselves, therefore it’s all I ask of you. Take care of you.

Tammi L

I'm happy to read whatever, even if some Things are close together — BUT ... if it truly won't break the bank, just do the Althing and save the other for next month. Because pushing yourself is only going to result in burnout.

Lisa Millraney

there's no option for me to vote for 'do the thing that stresses you out less'! <3

Winthrop Barrett

hey amanda! i enjoy hearing your thoughts and observations most of all! Its all about the journey, not the destination! i suggest you do what you can and keep posting (when you can) how you are doing in the moment, this is what I like best about you! Love!

Ash Anderson

I'm a recent addition in this Patreon adventure, and so it's what it is. From reading your thoughts on the matter, the act of creating & expressing yourself artistically, even if it's a tall order, seems to be where you're leaning (so, two things this month). I'd say do that. Write and share. I have many lovely creative people in my life and, even if it's heavy work, they still lean into their creative selves and their art for all the ways it helps them be, all the ways it helps them make sense of a strange, complex, and seemingly frantic & disordered world. There may be value in that. I dunno. I offer that with love, and I have no expectations of you. However you decide, I'm glad I found a lively way to be part of something sincere, conspiratorial, and refreshingly new to me, in support of a creator I admire. I'll stick around, keep exploring this connection. Thanks

Diane Barnes

I absolutely think less is more and that you should pace yourself in a way that you see fit. I believe that if one of your Patreons is going to leave they would leave anyway it would not be because of you writing less. Forcing content would be rough and play out in a way that it not feel good for you nor would it enter the world feeling good to those receiving it. Honor yourself, please! 🥰

Amy up North

Slowdown, you move to fast 😊

Jeff Powell

Hey there. I dunno if you will see this or not, but here goes... You asked for opinions and I have one. I don't think it's critically important to me or anyone else, but you asked. ;) I joined the Patreon to support the music. I was an ancient art student right up until Covid hit (which happened just as I graduated) and now I am not that. The music really hit a sweet spot for me at that time, and it mattered. It still does. And honestly I'd prefer you did more music than written word stuff. That's what I prefer. Not a criticism of your writing - which is great - but the music hits me harder. All that said, do what you want (or need) to do. The number of things in a month doesn't bother me. I've capped my pledge (at your insistence) and I don't worry about the timing between things. But for my money, more music is better, and if that opinion matters now you have it. Take care and stay sane!

Russ Grazier

I attended a workshop on burnout today. It was an eye opener (I think I may be more burnt out than I realized). Your wellbeing is important to us all. I honestly stay on the Patreon to support your art - I don’t look at it as an exchange of goods. Do what’s best for you and I’ll still be here, no matter what.

Shannon Lorenz Desmond

For me the question isn't, "is two things back to back too much?". The real question is "should I push myself right now or not"? I won't be upset if two things come out. I'll read them on my own time. But knowing how hard you are pushing yourself to get both things out is NOT why I am a patron. I am a patron so you can make art on your own time without fear and stress. So if putting out two things right now is stressful, don't do it. Rest your body, clean your house. The column will be great whenever it comes out. There is only 1 you.

Tammi L

"If you have things you need to do outside of creating art to keep your mind, body, and soul in check - please use my money to do those things so you can keep moving forward." THIS. THIS. THIS. This is literally what patronage is FOR. I hate that some Patreons I contribute to seem to be (or have become) just another job for the creator. Amanda, you're not punching a time clock for us. That's not what this arrangement is. 💕

Michelle Crawford

We’re not much help at the moment with the 50/50 vote, and I could handle paying for two things (and almost voted that way), but it sounds like you need to back off a bit for your own sake, and I’m not one to put undue pressure on a fellow, over-busy mom.

Elizabeth

This! I would love to "see" you take a day to adjust and rest and be kind to yourself.

Rusky South

Do what you can and don’t let it stress you out. I for one am good. Just happy to support you.

Matt XYZ

The part from earlier comments that has resonated the most with me are the people who have noted that the cadence of when precisely the posts arrive is not that meaninging ful to me - I save your posts until I'm in a space to spend the time to read -- If it helps from the business perspective to get the two posts out before the month ends, I don't think the crunch will be that negatively received - at least for those of us who aren't worried about rushing to read every word immediately. In the bigger picture, sure, dream of having the first thing earlier in the month to more consistently avoid this sort of crunch. I am more skeptical of the quality of back-to-back crunch writing - having the space to edit edit edit becomes more important the more you are producing written articles as product I'd think. But best laid plans and all -- If two arrive in 2 days, it wouldn't bother me at all -I also wouldn't likely read either right away - the value would come when I was ready to settle in -

Anthea Peck

O’m’gosh! Do what you feel. Most of us aren’t going anywhere either way! Many of us are parents, and understand how a new school year goes. ESPECIALLY after an international move. Give yourself all the grace. You deserve it.

Ellie Davis

I'd be more interested in the column, because I don't really read the Althing, i just click on what seems interesting as it comes through Patreon or Instagram or whatever. I say that because I get the feeling you want us to give you something to do, but honestly, HONESTLY... I am not hung up on "getting my money's worth" or anything like that. We are all here to support you as an artist, and being an artist means you have to LIVE your LIFE! And that means being a mom and a friend and a partner and a house organizer and all the rest of it. And letting yourself rest. So in more direct terms: I am happy to see posts when they come but I am so not paying attention to when they do or how many come per month! i really dont mind. I'm actually just as interested in these personal patreon posts (where you talk to us!) than your professional content, if not more. And I'm sure nobody's going to quit because you posted two things back to back or didn't post for a while. You're in not in super-active-productive-artist-creator mode, and that's 100% okay. You are in another mode of being which is *equally important,* and you deserve to live it fully without stressing that a largeish group of people is getting grumpy that you haven't produced enough content for their ravenous eyeballs. Our eyeballs are ok. Take your time. We love you. <3

Kristen Carlosh

Burning and spiraling is part of the creative process I think. However, there is a difference after motherhood when so much of the space in our brains and bodies is occupied with a different kind of creativity. Balance isn't always possible but when the question is should I ...maybe the question is can I? What will be forfeit? Can I pay that price? Am I borrowing too much? I think about this a lot...I am a three time highschool dropout about to earn my doctoral degree in December. I have a 28 yr old and a nine year old. I am an artist and a therapist and I with enough trauma to sink a 1000 ships. And yet I have healed....but as I head into my crone stage...i think I am finally understanding that healing isn't always about resting but there does need to be a part of me resting. I voted for youre putting out too much but that is not the fullness of my thoughts for you. I am very grateful for your creativity and the life and art you share with us. I read when I want to regardless of the amount you put out. I will not withdraw patronage for more content or less...I pay what I can afford. I would ask you is it all too much? Because they both sound like love, but a driven frenetic love, which after being your fan for many years, I think is you...so again, I ask you to consider what it's costing you. Because there are some things I wouldnt want you to sacrifice.

Becky Ellen-Johnson

I like the fact I can give you money (paltry though it is) and you can just do what you do. The fact that your thoughts pop into my email and connect me to you, and through you parts of the rest of the world, is enough for me... However often or infrequently you post. Wonky is the right word for this year. I had so many goals, to finish a novel, to exhibit my art, to make and sell pretty jewellery, to finish a different novel... And the one goal this year that has not fallen through is my challenge to myself to write a poem every day. It is enough, I am enough. The fact that I have not fallen down the depression rabbit hole is enough. Just like you are enough.

Shane and Janel Brandon

I don't support you because I expect some number of things a month. I do because I love you and how you show up in the world, and because I can xx

Laura Doty

I’m content with whatever you’ve got in you to give. Some days (or months) we have empty wells. That’s ok. Don’t give what you don’t have, please. Enough is as good as a feast. Hugs.

Kim Nagorka

Whenever I have a come to Jesus with myself I do exactly what you just did (reach out to others for their thoughts) and then I sleep on it. Ultimately, I echo everyone else here: take it easy, and certainly don't feel compelled to provide content. Thankfully, art isn't a nine-to-five and that's not what I, personally, expect from you (in fact, if we have expectations OF you, that's our problem). I expect to be here to support your art and to feel good about doing just that. Btw, my enby 15 y/o just listened to "Killing Type" last night and was BLOWN AWAY. thank you for giving me these moments with them.

Cait H

What I love so much about the idea behind Patreon is being a *patron* of you and your work - I want to support the life that creates that phenomenal work, I want the effort to create to be recognized as work and for that to be separate from the commodity that is each piece of art. Thing x 2, Thing x 1…Thing what feels right to you and what work you're proud of and want to see the light of day - trust us (and oof that's a rough to type, let alone have any hope you can feel safe in doing) that we'll support you and your art, even if the specific faces in the community-this-minute do flux.

Ryan Stuck

If you believe you have the time to do two Things then do it. I support a handful of people that release multiple things in the span of an hour, so I'm kind of used to getting content in spurts. Doesn't bother me at all. Poll looks like a nearly statistical tie, so that's not particularly helpful unfortunately. Maybe it'll get clearer as more people vote. Good luck!

Erin Mannion

I am personally voting for you to do whatever you need to do to soothe your brain and/or worries! If you need to do two things, do it! If you need to rest and focus elsewhere, do it! I came here to throw in some support because this feels so much more like the way it should be done, in general. Also, side note for your consideration, I would happily just subscribe to a monthly rate so you don't feel pressure to come up with a "thing" when the times that you gotta focus elsewhere/fly by the seat of your pants arise 💙

Tracy

One thing, two thing (red thing, blue thing?). Put out what you feel most comfortable with. I'm fine with any number of things!

Chris Frost

don't burn yourself out, but I'm up for supporting whatever you feel able to do.

Jen Kiaba

The way that I see my tiny bit of patronage here is that it is part of affording you the opportunity to make art as you see fit. Or also to just breathe sometimes. One of my mentors told me “there are inhalation years and exhalation years” in terms of creating art. Your cadence maybe isn’t yearly but still, if you said “I need to sit in the woods for a year and listen to the wind and heal” my patronage wouldn’t change. Because that would be part of your process, and your art has already given me so much. So that’s my circuitous way of saying that if it feels good to you to publish both things, I am here for it. If you feel like you can only manage one, awesome. And if you just need to keep staring into a candle for a while, I support that as well

river rowan stone

honestly, i'm just happy to be here and am pretty un-fussed by the amount you put out. you've given soooooooo much over the years and are still so generous with your open heart and life. i'm another human who doesn't really read the allthing, and have been loving your columns, but would also be happy to read it next month or whenever. ur doing great! <3

jennifer willis

Please do whatever is best for you. I'll still be here next month (and the month after that and the month after that, etc.) regardless. Take care of yourself. Put your own oxygen mask on first. Take good care.

Dahlia

I have a feeling the only one counting how many “things” you put out per month is you, and that the rest of us are along for the ride with whatever comes our way. You already let people cap how many monthly things they support so you shouldn’t have to worry about pleasing everyone. Just write and publish what you have the bandwidth for and the rest will follow when it’s ready.

Tiffany Schaefer

Sending some love and fog from San Francisco. Follow your heart (and maybe follow the fog?) and do what you can. Every time I feel overwhelmed, I think - how is Amanda?! I will be forever needing a hug and a coin-operated boy! Too sad Amanda!!! Till my daughter gets to see you live ❤️

LJ

I voted with go head and try to put out two things but I wish there was a third option - of “I support you releasing these two things at the pace that works for YOU and feels healthier for you!” I don’t pay for patreon just for you to produce something. I’m not just here for the “things”. I’m here for you as an artist and a whole person - whose voice and artistry and creativity and life I want to support - ALL OF IT not just the end “products”. You are someone who is an essential compass for me when I’m judging myself or being hard on myself or feeling not enough. I work in the caring professions and it can be exhausting to be everyone else’s compass sometimes, and there are times when your posts and thoughts and reflections and values and commitments act like spiritual direction for me, and that is not something I can really put a price tag on. So take care of you. Thing the art of raising Ash if you need that to help your bottom line for a month while you recoup and get the ground back under your feet (because what is parenting if not art). We love you. Hang in there. And keep reminding us the same.

Len Tower Jr.

a What ever cadence you choose is OK with me. 1) No one HAS to read/listen/see a thing the instant they become aware of it. Doing so can be put off until one has time for it. For me, to savor it & experience it in depth. 2) I prefer two things this month, but that's exceedingly minor. Love, Len

Elisa Mongeluzzi

Personally, I’d switch to monthly because of the need for freedom of creativity, flow, emotion, relating, pause, interruption, spark, forgetting, absolutely despising the first draft, absolutely loving the first draft, satisfaction and all the other bits of the spirit and soul that go into creating. For me, when messages arrive, they arrive on time. Always on time.

amandapalmer

i love how very fucking honest this is. sometimes rest is key, but fucking hell...sometimes work is key. the difference between idling and moving is so strange. and your trauma enough to sink 1,000 ships - thats the poem of the day right there and worth this whole post. i love you, mama.

Eve Selis

"Some people help artist's just because they want to help artist's." (Paraphrased from your book) Create art because you can... because you must... as you can. You are appreciated and have more impact with your words here on Patreon then you will ever know. Also, family first! In the blink of an eye your parenting job as you know it is over and they are off living their best lives because of you or in spite of you. Loads of love and hugs to you, Amanda. Inhale, Exhale, LOVE

AKMR

You have years to catch up on. You just moved across the planet with your child. Find your center, land, do what you can.

Michael Cavanaugh

If you feel you can release both, feel free. If you can’t, don’t feel worse. And I wish there was a third option of put out a photo of you waving high as a thing to keep the organization healthy on funding

Angel Rosen

At the end of the day, if you're looking for permission to rest? You have it. In abundance. If you're looking for encouragement, motivation or inspiration to power through writing something because you want to write it & share it with us and you want us to let you know we are happy to receive it? You also have that, in abundance! There is no wrong choice other than choosing something that is beyond your capacity. Don't steal yourself from yourself! You are your own most important resource.

Theodore Vossen

Whatever works for you. I'm glad you posted today because I got a new card and this reminded me to update patreon before my account gets all messed up again.

Abby Lee

You've gone through more transition than anyone else I know....take your time & take it slow, mama. You're starting what I like to call " the thick of it" when it comes to parenting. When they start school, it's a whole new thing. The other kid's habits & personality traits start to latch on to your child & start to become a part of how your child is shaped and how they perceive this world & vice versa...Your child's very existence is going to affect those around them. There is a "stew" of family traditions, vibes, diets, tactics & dynamics. Just keep true to you & accept the new parts of your child that may surprise you, even the unpleasant parts. Work through them with grace and patience and all will be well.

amandapalmer

this is so hilarious. it's currently a dead heat. it's just expanding the agony. YOU ARE ALL BASICALLY MY BRAIN, EXCEPT YOU ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

Amanda Eckert

Okay, so here’s the thing: I’m totally on board with you releasing two of these types of things in a row. But. I’m also pretty much always squarely on Team Amanda Palmer Should Do Whatever The Fuck She Wants, and recognize that I lost my ability to be objective about you/your choices a long time ago. Soooo I have no idea if you might lose some patrons here and there…but you won’t lose me, and I’m fairly confident that you also won’t lose any long-time supporters, because we trust you ❤️

Dayle A. Dermatis

I voted for two, but it's with the caveat that I wouldn't want you to do it if you need the rest. It sounds like the creative part of you WANTS to do the column, and as a creative person myself (writer), when I'm fired up sometimes I want to push through exhaustion. Do what's best for you.

Lexy Green

I will read anything you write. I love your music- my daughter and I are singing Sing almost every day together, and any time she hears your voice she asks if this is the one who does sing. But I joined patreon for your writing. If you told me you wanted to charge me 20 bucks a month while you wrote your next book and you’d send a signed copy, I’d happily agree to it. Just… don’t burn yourself out. Make sure your cup still gets filled. It’s the only way you can continue to nourish the rest of us with your art.

Brandia Allen

The fact that you are polling this tells me this isn't something you are passionate or excited about, but more feel a bit obligated. Although I ADORE THE FUCKING LOVE AND CONSIDERATION you have for the Patreon, I love and adore and support you because you follow your passion, not the masses. I don't really think your spirit will be nourished by obligatory "Thinging" and your energetic reserves will certainly become malnourished if you do that. You are already exhausted and overwhelmed, honor and respect that

Amy S

It’s an insane time. My vote is to do what you have the bandwidth to do at the pace you have the bandwidth to do it.

Susan Compton Smith

I lost my father unexpectedly and it broke me, and I did not think I would ever get used to the world in which he wasn’t here (we never “get over” the loss of those we love, we just learn how to live with the loss). Now I have lived five years without him and it seems unreal, but I have managed it. You are loved and supported by Amanda and by all of us here. You can manage it, and you will do it in your own time and your own way. Sending you all the love and hugs the internet can hold.💜💔💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

Veronica Budnikas

Hi Amanda, This is my first time writing here (though I have been a patreon for 4+ years now). I voted to go ahead and publish... but honestly, I don't care if you or you don't. When I saw you perform in Melbourne (the one before the start of the pandemic one), and you talked about your Patreon, I decided then and there that I would support your Patreon no matter what you did/didn't do. Sometimes, I don't even have time to read everything you post, and that is ok... I made that decision because I like your music and how you think, and it's a good thing for the world to have you making art (in whatever form) . So, do whatever you like, I will continue to support you (with my capped Patreon) until you retire (or I die). I would also support a monthly model, whatever, I don't care, just keep on making art :) (or not)

Rhys

I'm not going to vote because I don't like either of the options. Do what makes sense to you. If you want to publish both, do it. If you want to say fuck it and not push yourself, then do that. Take care of yourself and do whatever makes sense for where you are right now. Honestly while I see the advantage of charging per thing but there might be something to be said for going to the monthly model. I know that a lot of us here are quite content for you to take our money each month and we don't care what you do with it because we are supporting you and know that in the future there will be all sorts of exciting treats. Those treats don't have to be right now and personally I don't care if you don't produce anything in a month because I know you're always going to be making art (because it's who you are) and it will get to us eventually. So maybe it is worth deciding if the monthly deadlines help you or if they are adding to your stress. Evaluate the tradeoffs and figure out what will help to make your life less stressful, in the end that works in our favor as a happy relaxed Amanda is going to make art.

Julie Samms

As many comments here, I struggled to vote. I'm fine with thinging two things, even back to back. No problem. However, I'm also fine with just one (or none). I don't need you to have a certain output to continue to support you and your team. So I hovered my finger over the poll options and, in the end, couldn't choose either one.

Brandia Allen

Oh... And so many hugs to you!!!

Laura Flowers

I can’t vote because I genuinely think you should do what feels right to YOU. Being an artist is tricky. The best artists make art to please themselves. The artists that produce for a set audience, at a set pace, wind up burning out because they are slaves to their fans. Create what you want, when you want. You obviously need an income, so you have to create. Do it when you are fresh and rested and ready, though. Anything else will feel forced on both ends. Edit: can I say that I love that most people are choosing the invisible 3rd option?

Samantha teal

Personally I am not offended by either option 🤷🏼‍♀️ if you really want to write tomorrow I say write, if you really want to clean tomorrow I say clean. I usually never want to clean but it does need to happen at some point I suppose….

Natalie Briggs

I didn't even vote because I really don't care what you put out. If it's two things of writing, great. If it's one thing of writing, great. If you did go monthly and even had to go a month or two without putting out anything and just took my ten bucks that would be fine too. Because eventually I'll get something cool and that's why I'm here. I like cool art from rested and happy Amanda, however often that comes.

Marisa

Can there be a third option that says prioritize rest.

Rhian Arp

I am 100% ok with either. To me it’s about what would feel more cup filling to you? Do one thing really well and also unpack or hustle to do two things but maybe the house stuff gets abandoned again? As a patron I don’t care. As someone who cares for you and understands this struggle a TON I would say do what feels right for YOU. 💖

Cara Weber

I voted for the "gentler on Amanda" option but I really don't have a preference. It seems that you're leaning that way all on your own. I'll add my voice to heeding the advice of the ever-wise Hayley re: a monthly sub. It would relieve a fair amount of pressure, maybe.

David Faux

I voted for do them both, but wonder if one or the other gets lost if published on top of one another... I am happy to support whatever/whenever, and it seems like with life being hectic, riding the lightning when it hits seems wise. Don't push too hard, especially if the drive to do two is primarily driven by a feeling that you are under-producing for us. You aren't. You are enough. We are with you. ❤️

Nic LaBor

I love your art. I always have. Ever since I stumbled across my first Dresden Dolls cd in Berlin more than - what? 20 years ago? And I get it. I'm about three months older than you, my son's turning 5 next week, I have a job and other obligations, and recently perimenopause has hit (our best kept fucking secret), and I'm exhausted. And I find solace in your posts. And I'm asking you to give yourself all the grace. I'm grateful for all the things you've given during these decades. And you'll emerge out of this phase and back into the light, however long it's gonna take. I will love reading your posts whenever you publish them.

Becky Irvine

I wish there was a third option too! I support you to do you, however that looks.

Stephanie Rowe

Rest. I vote that too. And to be candid and real - I'm probably gonna read the column before I read the all thing. The all things are awesome but long and a lot of times I don't have the bandwidth to make it all the way through. I wish I did. But long long reads get filed under books and wanting to learn new skills and new languages. One day. If monthly makes more sense to your model, change it. If you need the deadlines (I know I personally do for my work) then I get why you have it per thing. You know what is right for you. And we trust you.

Shan NOS

Really needed a "Totally Fine Either Way" option. Sending energy.

POTU David Nelson, Author

I donate to support you being you, whatever that looks like. Find your peace of mind, stay there, honor your inspirations (which could be insane from time to time,) but - when you are overwhelmed - 'stop' until peace returns. I suspect I can say this on behalf of all 'we fucking love you'; and we are not here because of your production capabilities. Be you, just ease the f off the inner pressure. Love, find you peace there. Rest is a good thing. Lots of good feedback and wisdom here. With rest comes clarity. Your community here isn't going anywhere. Brightest of Blessings from POTU :)

elendraug

Please take care of yourself, Amanda, and create whatever art you're feeling up to creating. We love you. I want you to know that last month, for Reasons, I cried more than four times in 24 hours over the lyrics to "Astronaut" after a friend reminded me of how much it meant to him. I hadn't listened to it in years and really sat down to sit with it (as well as Alex Reed's fantastic cover) and it found me at the right time of my life to really make an extraordinary impact. (Somehow never knew you recorded it with Ben Folds; I love him too.) I retrieved my AFP handkerchief for the occasion. The last time I cried into it was at your show in 2019. Maybe it's strange to archive tears, but that's what art is about, isn't it? Thank you for all you've done and all you're still doing. Please try to rest, and do what seems right. We'll still be here and your art will keep finding us when we need it. ❤️

Lena DeGloma

Dearest Amanda, I hear you and feel you with juggling too much as a mom / business owner (and a chronically over-ambitious with hands in too many different pots, constantly walking the tight rope between inspiration/ideas/creating and on the verge of burning out — or let’s be real, actually burning out, but still somehow going and wondering when the other shoe is going to drop…). All of that said, to answer your most direct question about will patrons be upset if you put out two things at once instead of it being nicely spaced out — I can’t speak for everyone but for me, no I totally don’t care at all if your “things” are spaced out. I can always space out my consumption of it, and I’d never think twice or begrudge you or another artist for your timeline. Don’t feel bad putting out the two things in close succession at the end of the month! On the other hand, to your question of is it fine to just take a breather and only put out one thing? Yes! It’s all good - at least what I can say is, we’re here for you one thing, two things, no things, whatever. Sometimes I get too busy to take advantage and check out your thing but I’m still happy to have supported and paid for it. And I know I can come back to it later. It’s all good. And finally, to add a comment about your process - you mentioned that you could just glue yourself to you chair and crank out the writing tomorrow if you just commit to it and also that you’re struggling with balancing too much and feeling like you’re failing in all areas. I think you are like me in that you work best when the motivation hits and you can just hardcore binge on cranking something out by going deep in it. And that when a deadline (whether self-imposed or not) nudges you to make the space for that chunk of time, it can sometimes feel so much better to have put that kind of good energy into that one tangible and completed thing that it pushes away all the frazzled energy of all the other things you’re juggling - you can feel solid and productive in that one key area and the energy from that can propel positive energy into those other areas. Whereas if you didn’t take the day to make that big solid accomplishment, sometimes nothing productive (or even rejuvenating) happens in that extra time and you can fall deeper in a hole of feeling like you can’t get ahead in any area of life. So put that solid energy, that solid day into accomplishing that one big thing (and know your patrons are behind you either way), and let that positive energy propel you for the other areas 💜💜💜💪💪

Joanna Lindblad

(((A))) First I want to say, it must have been bittersweet attending Laura’s wedding. Old and new memories colliding. I hope you are doing ok. And absent ghost is to be expected. It’s normal and I am guessing your friends do understand. As far as the patronage, I had a thought the other day. Yes you’ve turned the music/creating business on its side, but have almost made it a daily/monthly job. It’s a lot, and I am guessing a lot of us with these jobs realize creating this way is challenging, exhausting, and difficult. So… take a breath. You are doing amazing :) With publishing two pieces, for me, would not irritate me. If I can’t read them both in one moment, I can take a break and come back later. So, what I would say is, write one of them. (Option C.) Whichever feels the most enticing in the moment. Then see how YOU feel (or if something unexpected pops up), AND if you want/can write the other. Much love, Jo xxxx

Holly Smith

tbh, and not to offend anyone, but I rarely read the allthing. I know I pay for it every month but it’s really long and I don’t have the time. If there are two writings, I honestly doubt I’d read either of them. But if I had to choose, I’m slightly more likely to read the column but again, most likely I won’t. I’m not going to stop supporting the Patreon but I’m here for the music and will always, always listen to the music. I still want an entire album of just original piano.

Sandra Marek

It’s ok that life happens and you need a minute to catch your breath. If you want to do just one thing, do that. If you have it in you to do more, cool. But if you need a breath, please do that. We will be here.

Molly M. Halloran

Take care of Amanda, whether that means one thing or two.

Nathan Gray

I vote third option as well, do whatever is gonna feel best to you. I'm interested in reading that column whenever it comes out, but it doesn't have to be this week. Sometimes putting the house in order first frees up the brain for the rest of it.

John Inloes

Don't ever stop any moment of creation when it happens. Don't ever question when or how often it happens. The only thing that I ask is that you never deny any creative impulse you have.

Valentina Chadwick

Do whatever. Really. I'll still be supporting. And I'll enjoy it in either form. Also why not monthly?

Cathy Farry

I don’t support the Patreon for output - so not very helpfully I’m going to say do whatever you need to. I also think there is a lot to be said for having fallow periods

Damian Masterson

Just finished a long day of solo parenting not at our house. Wife just got ‘home’ from work and everybody shuffled off to bed. I have about 90 minutes before I pass out to either work on an article on horror musicals or a paper on substance and Transubstantiation in Descartes. I say take your time writing because it actually takes a minute to read these things. If they come out on back to back days, I’m just not likely to budget time to get to them both on back to back days. I’ll take them both if they both come out, but I’ll appreciate them more if there is a little breathing room between them.

erincpdx

I agree with the patrons who say that they can just come back to the thing(s) they don't have time for if you release two at once, because that's what I do anyway, regardless of spacing. I'm overwhelmed and burned out, too, and refuse to make myself "enjoy" things that don't fit my schedule (mostly I can succeed at that, with the help of a good therapist). So it's not only on your side that the overwhelm for creating exists, it's on my side that the overwhelm for consuming exists. I'm happy to pay for ones I don't read in real time. I will quite enjoy knowing they are there for future me to relish. And I'd like to see you feel power from creating and rest from not.

Jesus Witha G

i saw option C in some of the comments.. but i did not see option D, listen to Hayley..it might help in times like these

Stephen Boots

I voted for just doing the one thing, but not because of overload, but because of the fear that there will be some fallout and patron loss if you do both -- I'm not leaving either way. ;-) I scanned some of the comments above and one struck me as being how I feel. I rarely read the Allthing all the way through. I scan it and read parts. I will continue to support your music, art, writing, whatever. I like that one can limit the number of things to be charged for monthly, so it basically means that I have a somewhat fixed "subscription" price to support you. If you were to switch to a simple monthly model, I'm cool with that, too.

Kym Dorst

Would really be interested in learning more about the decision to charge by thing and not monthly. I feel with things as hectic as they have been for you (in the last couple years, particularly), it would allow you more grace to get things done on a less “holy fuck I have to do all of the things and I have no idea how I’m going to get all of these things done ahhhhh” schedule. In the end, it is your decision and we will support you, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who might think it’s officially time to consider another method to this madness. *hugs*

Trish D

I voted for one thing, not because I think it would be too much to have two pieces this month, but because for me it doesn't matter when your writing arrives. I enjoy reading your work at my leisure regardless of when it is posted and would feel happier about reading it knowing you weren't damn near killing yourself getting it to us. So in the end, whatever ends up working for you - if you get a second wind and the words start flowing, so be it; if you need to stop, rest, breathe, and take care, then I will breathe with you.

Debbie Holloway

I wonder if that's why the vote is so evenly split! people trying to guess at which option is least stressful for A!

Kim Cofield

I’m used to things being thinged when it suit’s you so I’m ok with either option. I’ve come to expect that sometimes there is a lot of activity from you and other times there is not. Because you’re a human making art not a robot working to a predefined schedule. Work on finishing whichever thing is calling to you the most. And go from there

Lora

Sometimes you just have to take the time to clean and organize. When put off it piles up and gets worse and worse until you just say fuck it and don't want to do it at all. Organizing and going through things can be a little memory lane, too, which makes it more enjoyable. I vote do the organizing and cleaning, then you'll have less of the tedious stuff on your mind and more room for inspo.

Lori Smith

Please do whatever is best for you. I'm always happy to read what you write, regardless of when it comes out or what it's about, but at the same time, you shouldn't feel pressured to knock these two things out. If you need to take the time for other things, that's fine. I'll always be here for you. 💜

MiserlyJuggler

Option don't stress and do the allthing

Jenn Sutherland

You tell us over and over again to cap our pledges and I have. Whether you go to monthly thinging or not then doesn't even matter. I offer you my monthly cap amount regardless, and with the love and support that I have. Thing away. One, two, zero, wherever you land - We've got you. Take a breath or two, be in your body, and feel what needs to be brought forth. Not all those shoulds - fuck the shoulds, but what needs to be brought forth right NOW? It might just be a cup of tea and a long walk in the woods. That's fine too. We'll all see your beautiful prose, brimming with feeling and lived experience when it's time. No pressure required.

Sally Nurney

Yeah, do what suits you; I’m not leaving either way (capped my pledge!!! 😀). So I’m going to vote but I’m also agreeing with folks who are saying maybe if you listen to Haley, you won’t feel so pressured (but you LIKE pressure, right?! Or is that the Old(er) you??)

Lorrie Patrick

Agreed! I voted to do one, but I’d be perfectly fine if you didn’t do any for awhile. I support YOU! If rest, self-care, and frankly whatever else you decide, needs to take priority right now, do it. Also, I’m really bad at checking Patreon. I tend to miss stuff all the time. I feel weird admitting that but I guess it might be helpful in judging how much stuff people read everything. My contribution is to support your art which ultimately means taking care of you first!

Caitlin M

If you want/need to thing two things this month, either back-to-back or same day, and it won't be too much to take on in the days left, then go ahead and thing them. If you need to take more time, then thing more things in October. Whatever makes the most sense for you right now ❤

Dorothy Lemoult

I 100 percent agree with this. I’m also in that same overwhelmed space right now, with too much going on. And if we can just remember to care for ourselves first ; the rest will follow.

Sam Patterson

I'm moving too (as first time house buyer at just shy of 50). I won't have time to consume for a while anyway, but I also understand the stress and overwhelm a little. So I will send you virtual hugs no matter what you decide, read when I have time, and let your Patreon sit at the top of my list. (Are they organized by the order we added Creators? Or is it just "a for Amanda"? Either way you are my first ;)

Jill Fuller

Do what works best for you. I love that you care enough and are so transparent that you want to ask us. But you are a human and we are not your capitalist overlords. Take care of yourself. I don't want you ignoring mothering or feeling guilty about seeing loved ones because of us. The Patreon should be a "lamp, a lifeboat, a ladder" (Rumi), not the stone dragging you down. I hope you know we are lifting you up. Also, every time I read these posts, as a writer-mother who never feels like I will truly have time to write, I feel less alone. Your vulnerability and truth, your humor and compassion in these posts are worth my dollars. I love you, we love you. Do your thing.

Hilary

I’m okay and happy with whatever works for you. One thing, two things, no things, spread out or all at once, whatever you need is perfect x

Mike Javorsky

I for one support whichever option is will give you the most joy right now. Do you want two projects crossed off the list and released out into the world? Do it. Do you want to spend tomorrow cleaning and just put out one? That works too. I’m with some of the others that say if you’re not cool with that, cap your pledge, which I know I’ve done.

Ashe Mischief

Do your thing - seriously. I don't know about anyone else but I get your updates as emails and I read through them when time allows. So it doesn't really matter how much or when you publish things, I dip in when I can.

Douglas Neudeck

I voted both, but I don't want you stressed even more. All I want is for you do be *able* to do art, so here's my take: if doing both will satisfy your pledge to the Patreon AND bring in the bucks, then that would justify calling in a helper to clean. Benefits all round. If getting two things out will be super stressful, and run you down when you have too many things to do, then don't.

Bethany Olson

Do whatever you need to do. I’ll read anything you wrote but I won’t feel shorted if you have to prioritize. As long as you’re creating, I’m here. And fuck, I’m here even when you are a (metaphorical) pile of sludge on your shower floor.

Sarah Petersen

You are way overthinking this! We all have the ability to choose how much we give per thing, and to cap our pledges, so produce Things on whatever schedule suits you and don't worry about it. In this case, I can't tell if that means push to get both done this week or not... that's up to you. But try to stop worrying about whether we're going to mind or not.

Coila

Do what you feel called to. I can pace myself on 2 things. I love your writing and would love to read 2 things. If you need to write and you can, then do it. Or, if you need a break, then take one. I don't mind being asked and I think it's a good idea to ask. There's my two cents. ;)

Nerena

Honestly, thing the things when you can and if they're back to back that's okay. I'm here to support you, and if right now that means writing when you can and short schedules that's fine because I know this gives you the freedom to create when is right for you. I came for the music and the words, but stayed to make sure the music and words can keep coming.

Amy

Do you need to do 2 things to make the Patreon work? (Not your business/bank, but are you obligated to 2 things under the current model?) If so--probably just grind it out. If not? One thing. I'm saying this with kindness in my heart and the backing of 14+ years of parenting five--yes, onetwothreefourFIVE kids: you will never be caught up. The feeling of having your shit kind of mostly together will wax and wane. I'd say you'll be caught up when you're dead, but...something about pounding the lid and not being finished yet... That wedding you attended, it was a glass ball. This writing? It's likely plastic, but I'm not you and I don't know enough to know that for sure. (If you don't know about the glass and plastic balls, here you go: https://twitter.com/jenlynnbarnes/status/1220182162118451200?lang=en) Anyway, we trust you to write when you're ready/able/inclined to do so. You trust us to read when we are likewise ready/able/inclined to do so. Does the timing of the bill really matter? (Not asking rhetorically.)

Molly McEnerney

Since you know you can do both, and getting it done means not regretting not getting it done, and not having it hanging over your head, I voted that you should do both. I have also been getting behind on a lot of things, which means I am not going to read both, or even one, of these things this week - I will catch up on them later no matter when they show up in my inbox, so it doesn't make any difference to my catching up schedule if they come out on the same day. As far as cadence goes long term, I say you can write at your own pace, and I will read at my own pace, and it may not be possible for those to match up much of the time, and that's OK, and I hope that we can both agree to just not worry about it at all.

Heather at Highway Mind

If I was making a wishlist I would ask you to stop apologizing. You are a mom in confusing circumstances. That wins. You are also a person in relationship with others - that is none of our business. I know you want to tell us things - but spend more time telling us about those things than promising us you will. We like your stories. We don’t expect you to be more than human. We know you are still on this floating rock with us and it is strange (at best) and hard as hell.

Christi F

I vote to not stress out about what we expect. Once you start to stress it becomes too much like Work. create what makes your heart happy and we’ll take it. ❤️❤️

Marilyn Singer

This community exists because of you. You feed it and you can only give what you can give. We will read what you write and if that isn't the day it is posted, it will be another day. As always.

Kathryn Weber-Boer

Agreed! I didn't vote for either option, because Susan's #3 is what I was looking for. Amanda, you do what feeds your soul. That's what I mean my Patreon money to be doing.

Amy

RE: monthly patreon. I'm joining the chorus of folks who've said they don't care what you do with the money each month, and also joining at least one other person who said they don't read the Allthing. I don't thing I've read more than one of those. They're long for you to put together? They're long for us to read, too! (I did enjoy the one I read well enough.) I've read a column here or there, but I'd rather just know I'm supporting you monthly and not have some obligation post tied to it. You'll bring the music and when you do, it won't have magically been born of novel ideas from within a singular 30 day window.

Rachel van Geenhoven

I would be totally fine with you “thing”ing a sick day once in a while, for my part

Cally Brown

It took me quite a while to 'get' the idea of Patreon. I currently only subscribe to 3 people. I do it because I recognize you (and the other two) as people doing amazing work in the world. I don't do it for the 'things'. I will probably have to pull out within the next year or two, when my husband retires and we have to live entirely on NZ Superannuation. I just want to live in a world with you in it, doing what you do so honestly. I don't want to support 'things' that have been done under pressure, or that take away time that you want/need to spend with/on yourself, you son, your widowed friend, people that you love. "Māku e kii atu, he tāngata, he tāngata, he tāngata."

tichwi

Take a deep breath and close your eyes. Imagine it is tomorrow morning and you look at the poll and the first answer wins. How do you feel? Are you excited to sit down and spend two days writing, or are you looking at the chair with disdain. There's your answer. Being a mom is hard, running a business is hard, life is hard. Don't make it harder on yourself. If you decide to wait until next month to do the column, set aside time, schedule it, get a babysitter lined up. You can prioritize it without doing it right now.

Taylor Tholl

Third option, do whatever you want😅

Melissa Kennedy

I am at a point right now where while I love all the things, I cannot process all the things because I just don't have the bandwidth. I find myself checking out a lot because my brain and my heart are just FULL. Slow down. It's okay. We'll wait.

Kathryn S

Amanda. Darling. You do you. Do what you can, but sometimes we cannot do all the things. I think we are all weary right now & understand & respect where you are. Slow down when you can & do what you can do to stay in the present moment. Love your boy, love Neil, love your friends & your team. Love us. But love you too. Whatever that means, however that comes out.

Beth Award

I’m in agreement with the folks who say whatever works best for you is ok with them. And to take care of yourself. Xo

Daniel Allen

I am here because I love the art you make and the community you've built. I'm a patron because I believe in you, respect you, and want to support you. So. Since you have asked for my opinion, here it is. Do a little less. Prioritize where you want to spend your energy. You've said there's a lot. And I get that. There's a lot I'm dealing with at the moment. So I sympathize. And I'm struggling with keeping up with it all. So, back off. Take a moment to prioritize and make the pile smaller. Then it's not so big.

Daniela

I picked the second one just cause EVERYONE deserves a break after moving and getting sick, if you can afford to take it, take it. If you want to get it ready, I’ll read it!

Emilly Orr

Here's my thing, for whatever it's worth: you can just stop it as "we are paying for Amanda". That's it. Turn out what you want, tell us what you want, share your music, share your life--however that works for you. But ultimately, at least for me, I am here to contribute my small part because YOU, as an incarnate being, deserves that. Art is etched into your bones, it's the color in your blood, it's what makes your heart beat. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. Whatever that is.

DebbieG

I said to just do one piece, but not because I only want to read one. Because you shouldn't pressure yourself to try and finish. If the writing is there and flowing, and you finish both because you are inspired to, that's great. But I think you are a good enough writer to know when not to force it. If I'm busy with my own stress, I won't be able to read even one piece anyway. So it's not about me. But I thank you for asking! And hugs.

Kelly Rathmann

It's okay, you can trust all of us adults to discern whether we want to read something or not, and sometimes I don't read every thing you've written and offered us, even if I want to, but sometimes I don't have the bandwidth myserlf, and that's cool, because I know you're always putting out beautiful work and I don't have to see or read every bit of it to know that I love you and what you do. And I'm not going anywhere!

Michelle Brun

I became a patron to support your work. I don’t care about the “per thing.” I say go for it if you can, so you’ll get more funds. But I think of it as a monthly payment anyway (as I have mine capped per month). You put out so much content, I don’t even have time to consume it. Like you, I feel behind in all things as well. But I’m a patron to support you. Not really to get a thing each time I pay. So my real vote is that you change it to monthly subscriptions. Then you won’t feel the overwhelming stress of trying to put out so many things.

JessicaLynn

I want to say this: what I have been reading between the lines from you lately is that you are tired - exhausted, really, and you need a break. A real break. You worry and think about and include us so much and I think that's wonderful. It is what makes this community so unique and what makes each of us adore you and feel so connected to you. But you aren't beholden to us before you are to yourself. Your life has been bonkers (hasn't everyone's?) for quite awhile and you are just finding your way back here to this home. Have you actually taken time to settle in and just...be? Without thinking about what you "have" to do? I stand with Hayley in saying you should just make your platform monthly, because then when you need a break, you can actually take one without feeling guilty about it. Make an announcement "Hey guys, mom/friend/life stuff taking focus for this month/couple months/whatever. I'll check in and you'll get more writing and art soon!" You may lose a few patrons, but your constants, your loyals do NOT want to see you burn out. You don't want to be serving anything from a bottle that has a hole in it. You'll run out too fast while spilling most of it on the table or the floor, or you'll spend more time trying to save what's spilling, that you'll make a mess anyway. Find a new, full bottle. Or a different empty vessel that you can empty the broken bottle into and then pour from that. You. Can. Not. Do. It. All. Period. End of story. When was the last time you wrote or created art just for you? Or just for Ash? Or for the both of you, without worrying about putting it out to the Patreon or your fans? You are so talented in so many different ways, incredible and beautiful and wonderful. But you give so much of yourself away to other people. Which is truly great and so fucking rare. Radical empathy and compassion is CRUCIAL, but how much of that are you offering to yourself lately? Are you listening to yourself? Are you HEARING yourself? Amanda, slow the fuck down. I know you have slowed down in many ways lately. But not entirely. I feel it in much of what you have written lately. You are in a unique position of privilege to be able to really just fucking stop and breathe for a moment and you should take it. I have been without a job for almost a year. It's rough. I need one - we are a two income family operating on one income and it's only working because we have so much help. And it can be stressful. But one benefit to having so much time off is that I have had a real opportunity to slow the fuck down, take some real time to relax, center myself get to know myself again. I'm still taking care of my kids and cleaning the house and being busy as all hell with family functions and friend events, and kid stuff, and occasional babysitting and play dates. But most of it's good, wholesome, soul charging busy. And because I don't have a job to go to, I have my days to be alone and partake in my little rituals and self care. I feel better equipped to be a parent and a wife and a friend and everything else. And better equipped to start a new job when one happens to come along. Whatever you decide to do, please let it be what brings you the least amount of stress and worry. Take care of yourself and Ash and reconnect with the friends and family that fulfill you in ways that only they can. Slow down, recharge, refill your bottle. It seems your gut is already telling you to do this - fucking listen to it! (And listen to Hayley.)

Aino Raymond

You do you. It's weird how the poll is about 50-50 now but everyone seems to have the same opinion, do what feels best for you. (I picked the first option as I felt an urgency from you of wanting to get things done and you might feel better getting two things done but... It's not a problem if.it's one thing)

Haley Forrester

I might be of a strange minority here... but I say don't worry about doing either thing in September. Not to say I want to stop you if you WANT to write... but I know I personally am in the same mountain of emails/work/relationships/domestic chores, and I won't have time to read either thing. In fact, it's been quite a while since I've made time to read an AllThing. I just haven't had the capacity. So I feel guilty and stressed for putting it off, and feeling like I'm falling further "behind"... but the whole reason I joined this Patreon in the first place was not to read the Allthings. It was just to support you. To support an Artist whose music I love, whose Message I love, whose book I loved, whose energy I love. And I can do that whether or not I read the Allthing, and whether or not you publish it this week, or next, or next month, or two months from now. :) I hope this helps. <3

Mel Legget

Piano Piano ' Maybe something like this, always in a pinch, pick a cool place, have a shower, livestream some piano time!!! (intermission!) I know how you feel about wanting to write it all, and right now, and oy! I know it is so frustrating! Piano. Livestream! :D Request! :) Medley "Stop the world I want to get off" * "I'll Stop the World and Melt With You!" It's a ride!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19PkrUHi1gw&ab_channel=BL%27s2ndChannelofMusicandOtherOddities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwm8KA0d_I&ab_channel=ModernEnglish

Rebecca Edwards

I agree with Kelly and Michelle. I don’t always get a chance to read everything you share with us. And that is okay. I

Mary Ann Wesselman

See how you feel in the morning, but it might feel amazing to get two writing things DONE. And published and out there. To feed the part of you that lives to connect and create. Me, I don’t get anything done without a crazy deadline, so that part of me is saying, don’t waste that crazy deadline! It’s there—use it. Then you are completely free to do what comes next, whether it’s cleaning or arting or musicking (though I vote for using some of your income to pay the fuck out of ANYONE else to do ALL the cleaning and laundry, as well as to buy healthy, ready to eat food. It’s ok to outsource that stuff. Long ago, as a single mom with a fatigue inducing auto immune disease who worked full time, I would be too tired at night to read to my daughter. Just couldn’t do it. But I could let her hold the book and turn the page, while we listened to a tape of the book. You can make up new ways to get the very important mom stuff done. My daughter remembers us being together at bedtime, not that someone else was reading the books.) If you get a sinking feeling when you read this, your insides are saying, rest, sweet child, so you can take care of yourself and your sweet child. If you get a fuck yeah feeling, then GO FOR IT.

Rebecca Edwards

I am a patron to support you. And I will keep doing that regardless of the number of words you produce or don’t. Have faith.

walter ray brock

i vote go ahead and do the two, assuming you have the momentum to finish them both in the time you project. The Ask Amanda requires more public response/participation. The All Thing we read when we get time. And regarding going monthly vs. per thing; personally I set my per thing and my per month cap so that I give the same every month, assuming you release at least 1 thing per month. There have been months when you've published 3 or 4 times and I've felt a twinge but honestly it has overall balanced out with the months when you've just published the All Thing.

Ruth Ann Harnisch

IDGAF, you do you, it’s why I’m here & has always been true since Day 1. If you want to declare that you need a Unconditional Basic Income for a year, say so. See what people will do!

Gabrielle Shearer

Just do one thing at most this month, and whatever you feel in October. Seriously. I never, ever think "I'm paying Amanda to do x each month." Ew. I'm paying a bit so an artist I admire can do her job the way she wants to do her job. It's not about a schedule. At all. In fact, it gives me a headache to think of of ot that way. I am really tired, it's been a hectic summer with lots of change and my own bout of covid, so I don't think I could focus on two things even if you did pound 'em out. Take ot easy, no pressure, October is always kind of fun anyway.

Von7animefreak

we love you for you and you love us for us. do what you FEEL is best. patreon family is still here supporting you even if its for a box of donuts lol

Shawn

Piggyback them

Melanie Stormm

Please, for the sake of us mothers out here desperately trying to balance all the things and still coming up short, do less. Do less with so much more love. Love to you and love and love and love. Taking care of the mother, even the patreon artist mother, IS taking care of the things and I’d love to see a world that trusts this process more so let’s make one! ❤️

Claudia

I can’t vote because neither choice fits my feeling. I say do what you feel like. I’m good. It’s never too much or not enough.

Christian Huble

I didn't vote for you, Amanda. I voted for me. I don't have it in me to do more than one thing. God knows I may not get through the first. So here's my.. Ask.. Amanda.... when the lights are out, when no one is there to listen - to receive. ...well... What do YOU want to do, Amanda?

Laura

Two things, one thing, no thing… it’s all good. Take care of yourself and your son.

Azucena

I am an old mother of 2, now teenagers. Woman Do Less! Self care and Kid in that order. So important that you take care of yourself first and that will inspire to be a present and mindful mama. Ash needs you, You Need You. Do less! Do you want to short circuit? Less is more

Christian Huble

Amanda fucking Palmer, if I could hug you, I would. If I could see those Hudson mountains I've called home, I would, I may still soon But gods be damned, Amanda. Stop waiting around for an answer, and be okay with an open ended question remaining as such. Also, what's your Venmo. I need to feel something - I need to bet... on me.

Deborah Geffner

Do what you want. I want to support you. We need you. You need us. It's a circle. It's fine. It sounds like you want to write two things. So do it. And if you don't get them done, that's ok too. I love listening to you - in print, in song, in voicerambles. I love you.

Tangee Fox

I voted go ahead and put out both, because I don't feel like it's too much for me. But for you, I think you should just wait and maybe do 3 things in October (or not if you don't feel up for it). Give yourself some time and grace. We'll still be here.

John Sturman

Amanda, I vote that you get your house in order as a priority. Since you’re paid by the thing , you can choose to earn more or less each month. We are free to cap our number of things each month. It’s a really nice system allowing all of us, you included, to choose our financial commitment. I am happy with all you’re creating. Please ease up if it will support you in fully establishing yourself at home in Woodstock.

Kathryn

I'm happy for you to post however works for you. I also often do all the things at once because suddenly my brain worked while my kid was occupied. I get it. I also want to reiterate that you can do less and we will still love you. Still appreciate you. Still admire you. If you need to do less. Do less. If getting it all out at once works for you, I'm here to read it all. ♥️

Kathryn Drew

Do two things now, if it excites you most and won't ruin you. I know you love to write on a deadline! Maybe work.on getting the Allthing done first and then you know that it's in the bag and the other piece can come out at the same time or Not, relative to how you're feeling about getting it done in the moment. As in, you could aim to get it out this month but just decide to roll it into next month if its feeling too much for You. But dont worry about me - I honestly don't mind either way - and can pace my reading of what i receivd from you as can everyone

Robin Goodfellow

the voting button didn't work for my phone - but my answer is simple: it looks like you have long covid, don't try to push yourself as it will only get worse - be gentle with yourself - eventually you'll be able to pick up your pace - in the meantime keep taking my money - it's there in sickness as well as in health ❤️

Aaron Johnson

I didn't vote for either. Because majority ultimately will not prevail here because in the end you'll do what feels right and best for you. I skim the allthing if I have time and even then I feel bad because I know how much you put into it. I joined for the music and art but low and behold I get so much more and will continue to support you no matter what happens.

Nikki Mierjeski

I think many people, at least myself, are feeling how you are feeling: constantly behind, not able to feel like you're accomplishing what you want to, exhausted beyond belief. I honestly can't consume content and art like I used to. It takes time and I have to take it in spurts. If you release a bunch of stuff at once, it will take me months to eventually read it. I want to read it, but need time. So you might as well take that time for yourself.

Linda Stanley

You can't "overcharge " us.. we are able to set the limit of what we pay. So if publishing both gets them off your plate and off your mind .. go ahead.

Alexandria Stuart

I can vividly imagine, if I was in your shoes, the sense of relief I’d feel on choosing the one thing. And I feel a sense of relief at the prospect of reading one thing. So I feel like one thing equals relief and god knows that’s something we could all use more of.

Kathryn

Do what works, no worries. Also totally agree things with kids are really challenging atm but the kids are worth it

Stephie

i support you because i want to support you. in fact for me it doesn't matter, if there is a thing - or two or three. i even support you if there won't be one thing all two month. i like to read or hear from you and pressure is not a bad thing. but too much pressure, always, is not good and not healthy.

Jane Waterman

I want you to do what you want to do. If putting out more content brings you joy, do it. If putting out less content brings you peace, do it. I don't know about anyone else, but I've been through the crappiest few weeks of the past year, and I'm just hanging on by my fingernails. I'm not going to be able to read or watch much as my body and mind have shut down. But I look to you as inspiration and a mentor - even though you don't know me. If you can find the right balance and the joy in doing what you do, you bring me the hope that one day I will find myself out of this horrible mess and do what you do. I miss joy so much. Do what you need to do and let it be. Love Jane. <3

Thomas Herlofsen

Really close poll! Guess we aren't helping :) meeting a big publisher about my novel today! Just had to say that out loud. Love whatever you do.

Karen A Thompson

Do what you can do, when you have the spirit to do it. I doubt I'm alone, but I don't support you here because I have expectations about what and how often you post. I'm not even here about the music. I'm here because of how you support other creators, and not monetarily. I'm a writer; I grasp how support can manifest itself and grow, how talking about the processes and the people, and everything that goes with it, can spur others into taking all of this seriously, and spreading that support. You do that here, just by being you, doing what you can when you can. If you have the spoons, as the kids say, write them both. If not, that's fine. We're still going to be here...we need you to take care of you, and not overextend for our sakes.

EmVT

first, I did a double take--Laura got married? holy smokes, that's great! none of my business and yet, omg, there've gotta be feels and a story (a story you probably can't tell). my take on the questions of the hour: cadence - good! I'm always happy to see you in my inbox even if I can't read everything right away paying for both patreon and substack - what's one more login, happy to have both, it's using the right tools for the job, part of your Swiss army knife, your own personal answer to 'microsoft office' for the working crowdfunder you as a writer - yay! you asking - smart. you have so many patrons, so many new patrons, and I love that you're open to the possibility that the answer might change my vote - I voted that you try to go for both, for a few reasons, but I could go either way if I were in your situation, I'd probably want to usher both pieces lovingly out of the art-nest to make room for other things; I imagine there's some wiggle room about how elaborate to make the althing, and that you would prioritize Ask Amanda; I believe the people involved (various editors and other collaborators) might be different for each? and that if you aren't happy with something you can ultimately put a hold on it if necessary. i love and appreciate you and your process; know you will do what is best for you and Ash; trust that you will be you; am thrilled to support you, and will support you however you want to be supported (but secretly think it would be okay to go straight monthly unless that interferes with your mojo) xox

Tanja Nieminen

Voting button doesn't seem to work. Just finish one thing (or whatever feels good to you). I feel I'm constantly "behind and no good" as a patron. I hardly read all of the things you post. I'm here firstly for the music, second for support, third perhaps wishing this makes me a better person. I do enjoy ask Amanda, but no need to rush it. You actually chatting and interacting with us fans is also probably worth more for most of us than reading your finished products. ❤️

Caroline Gaudy

You didn’t give this option but if you’re in overwhelm, and it sure as hell sounds like you are, be gentle on yourself and do one thing. I don’t think you put out too much or too little. I think you’re doing the best you can. That is totally in the Book of Alloweds. Let go of the anguish and do what suits you without making yourself crazy. Thereare enough driven folk in the world, you don’t have to join them. Love you. Carry on.

Zoltanina

I have the suspicion that if you put the vote under a lengthy piece of writing, you're tilting the vote towards those who like to read. They're the ones getting there after all.

Tyler Meyer

I voted for you to do both things because of how it was worded. But whatevs. Do whatever you feel like. I also feel like I’m failing miserably at life lately and if I could just blow off work tomorrow and work on fixing my life, I would fail miserably at that, too. But the skipping work part - I would do that in a heartbeat. And I would feel better as a result. The problem is those sons of bitches at my job expect me to show up. Every day. It’s insanity. As a patron, I don’t expect you to show up. And I wouldn’t get mad that you did too much of the thing I paid for. That makes no sense to me.

Lemonssky

Hi Amanda, lately i don't manage to find the time to read the emails from the lovely people i support on patreon because i am simply tapped out. But for some reason i read this one, and as always when i read you, i am glad i did. I couldn't choose what to vote because pushing for 2 posts felt like pressuring you, and telling you to take it easy felt unsupportive (insert mind blown emoji...). Let me illustrate the "unsupportiveness" feeling.: This week, among the mess of my home life and my work life, i have been pushing to fit in writing a blog for work, because the writing deadline was end of this week. I am usually very bad at writing ahead and always end up writing on the very day the article is due. I am sure this sounds familiar to many, and yes, ut is quick efficient and satisfying, but why can't i just do that without feeling bad about it for days or weeks before it? Anyway. And then yesterday, i accidentally found out from my colleague that the deadline had been moved to 2 months from now. My reaction? I mildly shouted "don't do this to me, don't take my deadline away, i was doing so well" :) Of course, i can always happily take less work, especially at the moment, with a convalescent mother, the responsibility of her treatment constantly passed onto me by the medical professionals, a deeply depressed wife, 2 dogs to walk in 2 different locations across town from each other, a job i try not to forget about, and the almost total radio silence i offer to my friends and to my own needs. But damn it, i like writing this blog! I have turned a chore into a half metaphysical, half funny exercice (as i often do, otherwise what's the point?). So i couldn't vote, because I can't chose for you whether this second thing is really simply work or whether it really is one of the few things you might be doing for yourself this month, for your own enjoyment. I will try to complete my blog this week. I might try and fail now that my dear deadline has been stolen from me, but i'll try. Lots of love!

Kelsea Jackson

You can’t pour from an empty cup. Take care of yourself first. Be kind to yourself. Give yourself permission to rest . We’re not going anywhere. We love you.

Kristin Ryan

I love you. I think you should rest, and when you feel like the time is right, you'll know. I can't speak for others, but I'm not going anywhere.

Dorit

I'm seriously keen to read this ask Amanda. It's a topic on the top of my mind and your views are always very useful. But of course I can be patient! I'm not encouraging burnout that's for sure! I just want you to know I appreciate your writing and I am very happy to fund it in whatever form it takes.

Bane

I voted for you to do the 2 things because of your phrasing. You’re not putting out too many things, or timing them poorly. I’m happy to pay for 2 things. BUT if you’re tapped, then tap out. I’m happy to pay for 3 things next month or whenever they (and the spoons to make them) come to you.

Yana

I giggle. Tell the Artist in you to Sshh; go take a nap; you'll feel better afterwards.

Jule Axmann

I'm with Hayley! For me this whole Patreon-Idea means a totally different relationship to art and artist than the normal "consumption" thing. Being a patreon doesn't mean paying to get something imho. It means paying to free an artist, so they can enrich my life and that of others with the wonderful things they do. In their rhythm, in their time, based on their wellbeing. You are no writing factory, expected to deliver a certain amount - why I think paying per thing is the wrong way. those things are no goods for sale. But to answer your question: Do as you like, not as your patreons expect you to, bc your patreons support you to do as you like. Thanks for all you do and don't do! ❤️

Patti C

Take your time, take care of you and Ash, etc, and just do art when things are more amenable. You’ve been through a ton of change (haven’t we all) (& thousand thanks for recording changes with jherek, btw) you’ll bring all your thins and selves into a finer point of coalescence when possible

Maria Fagerlund

I want a third option "Just write the one you want harder and give it the time it needs, and give any leftover time (haha) to yourself. Do what YOU need, we're fine with that and we don't care or count how may things you thing per month. We support whichever way you want to work, and we've capped our pledges so that the number of things per month really doesn't hurt us. Also, we love you."

Arthur Durkee

You do so much, you give out so much, I am happy with whatever your intuition tells you to do. Do whatever you feel is best; we are good. I perceive that you're exhausted and therefore caught in a loop of over-thinking. Been there, done that. Rest. ¶ For my own Patreon, I do monthly rather than by Thing—but I am working on a smaller, cheaper scale than you work on, albeit I am highly productive per month, being disabled and retired and therefore with the freedom to do a daily Thing if I can, which I usually do. And the monthly cycle for me provides a stable income stream, which combined my own fitful Bandcamp sales is all I have. ¶ There is really no problem in my book with anything you ever produce, I love that you produce it. You via your book convinced me to take the leap onto Patreon, so I will always be a grateful supporter. Just hang in there, choose the pace that doesn't hurt, and keep Doing The Thing.

Marie

So you crank out a lot of work when a deadline is looming. So you’re human. If only Patreon had bi-monthly deadlines, but it doesn’t. Publish the things, Amanda. Yes, I would rather have them spread out, but that’s not how you work. If you don’t this time, I still think you should finish the text before the month runs out and then have it all ready for publication in a week. Then you’ll know there’ll be two Things next month and you can take a breather, maybe.

Emma

Even if you'd put out both texts on the same day I'd read them when I have the time (I'm several months behind on reading some stuff you'd put out), but don't stress it. Take care of yourself first, then find the proper time to write.

Vittoria S.

So i voted for you to publish both pieces but my meaning is: if you want to, no one will be mad. But I agree that you probably shouldn't and should just take some rest. I will still be here either way.

Nina Ciesielski

I voted for "leave it be", because I feel you, having an intense To Do This Week list on my own, and it is so much easier to tell others to leave it be than yourself (maybe because your own things feel always kinda more important? or because it is easier to be generous with friends than with yourself?) and that way, at least one of us can get her household to an O.K. level.

Auryn

I cap my pledge, and I don't feel guilty about it. This option keeps things financially steady for me. I personally enjoy the Things that aren't the Allthings more, but the timing doesn't really matter. Just work when you work best, or feel like it.

Cat VanBilliard

I voted for “leave it be,” but like so many here, not because it would be too much, but because it sounds like you need us to somehow reassure you that we’re okay if you don’t finish both. And as you can see from these comments, no one seems to mind what you do, as long as you do what’s best for you. That’s the whole point of having this Patreon, I think. I’m sorry life has been overwhelming for you lately. I can totally relate. I miss you- take care of yourself and Ash. ❤️~ Cat

Jane France

Leave it be. Simply because you’ve enough on your plate and we’re not going anywhere. Take care of yourself and your child and put out what you can, when you can xxx

Ingrid Nordbø

I am torn between answers, because I AM fine with you putting out two things at the same time, it's not too much. But I also want you to do what works best for you, and while my instincts (or something) makes me want to say "take a break", I do not like to vote on an alternative that makes me say "you're putting out too much" like that is a bad thing. I love to read your writing, and I'm happy to support you by Patreon regardless of how often you do publish things. My brain is not at it's greatest capacity either right now, and I struggle to express the things I want to say in English. Be kind to yourself. Do what works best for you. We'll be fine.

Stephanie Thomas

Amanda, you are amazing at almost everything you touch it seems. If I were you (& I’m not & never will be) I would write one thing & do it really, really well. You & I & everybody else, can’t be all things to all people all the time. Sing a song, write your words, give your thoughts & opinions, just not everything all the time. I & others I’m sure, don’t have the capacity to read, listen, engage, think, & think again all the time. Make great superb art, you’re good at it. I just can’t keep up because, you know, life is to be lived fully in as many ways as one can & I also hate to miss out on what could be a real gem. Aroha nui x

Marija Milisavljević Grdinić

I voted for you to try to publish bith this month but actually I am OK either way. Problem I have with you trying to publish isn't about you at all, it's about me - I am overwhelmed and busy and I am afraid that I will not be able to read two pieces in two or three days and I will leave it for later and it will slip my mind and that would be sad. But you definitively should not be guided by my poor time managament skills or forgetfulness. I think my point is that we'll be fine either way but you should try to avoid hurting your budget, these things can spill over and complicate. Sending lots of love and hugs ❤️

Shelah Kae Heien

I say leave it be. Do your home things. You are a beautiful human and doing art for the sake of us is not necessary. Do what is needed to be done because damn your plate is full. Don't spread yourself so thin that you lose you. We will be here for you. Love and hugs. But also thank you for all you do from the bottom of my soul.

Laura Morland

Dear Amanda, my solicited opinion is to GET THEM BOTH OUT before the end of the month -- we're talking thousands of $$ here, which you can't make up by producing three Things in October, because of the folks who have "capped" at two. I would be *very* surprised if that would cause a dip in your patronage. I would read the column instantly, but I often postpone reading the Althing for when I have time. Side note: your Althings are normally LONG... maybe you could save yourself time and write somewhat less this one time? I don't always have time to read every word, and I would probably read more of your Althing's words if it were a bit shorter. IMHO. Honestly, if the only downside is the amount of time it will take you to write, as well as the (SLIGHT, to my mind) possibility that you'll lose a few patrons, it would be worth it. You'll feel so free at the start of October not having to write the column, AND YOU WILL HAVE MONEY YOU NEED TO KEEP THE AFP EMPIRE RUNNING. [I see that "Team Do It Now!" is currently losing the poll... but I think that many of your patrons may just want you to be able to take a break if you need it. Not all of them are aware of the financial hit involved.] Kings and Queens taxed their subjects for income; you can tax yourself. YOU CAN DO IT! [insert Rosie-the-Riveter emoji here]

Jessica Petty

I didn’t vote as you didn’t put all the options! The third option being “I’d love to read the new column and don’t mind if it comes out this week or next month - whenever is best for you”. Instead I went and changed my pledge to the next tier up. I’ve been capping my pledge at one/month for ages ($3 tier) after faffing around with 3x $1 in the beginning. But today I felt that $5 a month isn’t that much more (for me at this time) and I do enjoy most of the content and supporting you making the art! But since I cap at once per month it means I don’t mind how much you put out :)

Kim Bowie

Maybe I'm not your typical patron, but I throw you my .02 worth because I believe in you. I admire who and what you are and it thrills me to be able to support that in some small way. I only read your stuff when I have the time, usually 2am, to get to it. And I'm always glad I did because you're one helluva writer. Take care of you.

Jemima Louise Johnson

Write about the wedding. For you! Write about everything if it helps. I wasn't sure which to vote for and then tried to click on one and it didn't work. Maybe patreon knows! I am capped at one thing anyway because I am poor. Neither will piss me off. I enjoy your writing and you deserve to get paid in some way for all this - waves generally at the commitment to strong patreon and social media connection with people. But I am here for the music. Do whatever gets you back to the music. If that's taking a day to clean house and reset that's great.

Vienna

I admire you as the wonderful human being you are and I am writing my honest opinion: Leave it and don't put too much pressure on you. I am only loosely following your posts as I am struggling with my life and don't have much time. So I would certainly only read a few paragraphs of each post. Thank you for your openness and for showing venerability it's a gift to all of us.

Fanny Froeliger

Honest: I don't care about the frequency of your publishing. You can release 2 things at the same time, and nothing the rest of the month, it won't change the fact that I will read them whenever I want. And yes, sometimes, things fall in a crack, I forget that I skipped this or that article/song/video/piece of art. But I'm a grown woman, so when I think about that and have time, I go to the list of all the things and try to catch up. Or not! Don't worry about my eyeballs, I take care of them, you're not forcing anyone to read or watch anything. The following sentence made me smile: "If you tell me that you're a little tired of seeing me work like this, I'll delay the column til next month." Let's be perfectly clear: this doesn't tire me. But it seems to tire you... maybe? I would worry about that more than the rest. So, publish the 2 things back-to-back or wait for next month, whatever you do, I think we'll be fine. All the best to you, Amanda. Take care.

Jana

Amanda, I voted for 2 posts. Because if you fancy doing both, I'm happy for you to do so. But what I really wanted to say is - just do one. Not for our sake, for yours. Just take some time. It's okay. You don't have to be that productive, it's a lot right now - do what feels right for you, whatever that is. I love you.

Michela M.

Honestly, go ahead and choose the rhythm /cadence that best suits you and your needs, I'm going to read in my own time anyway. So even if you drop things well spaced in one month, I will use a Sunday afternoon per month to catch up with everything. No problem, no worries. Take your time or drop two things in one day, both options are fine for me.

Dawn Grib

I voted for one Thing because you sound so frazzled, but honestly, I read your posts at my own pace, so whether you Thing two Things or one, they will get read eventually. It's up to you, your muse, and your body. Do what is best for you. I'll be here. :)

Anna Haasler

Go ahead and try to get publish them both. If life things get in the way, postpone. I'm happy with what you do either way. (Your blanket is coming along nicely, by the way. Will be able to send it soon.)

Deniz Bevan

I was just thinking of you this morning and wondering how all the juggling was going! I voted for two things but I'm okay with either one; if you need a day of to Sort More Things, that's okay too. But maybe a day of writing will help. I took a day off work and family lsat week to visit a new bookstore, write, and do yoga, and it was lovely but still not enough to get me off the hamster wheel and make me less impatient with everyone... I know, I know, it's a process. But at this point, I'd say do whatever fills your well! <3 and {{hugs}}

Justin Mitchell

Speaking only for myself of course. I look at Patreon as "you do the things when and how you can, I pay what I can to support your ability to do that." There's no guarantee of content generation, there's no schedule. I'm neither your minder nor your task master. Life has a funny way of happening in spite of our plans, right? Give yourself the gift of a little grace. "Above all, trust in the slow work of the Universe.  We are quite naturally impatient in everything to reach the end without delay. We should like to skip the intermediate stages. We are impatient of being on the way to something unknown, something new. And yet it is the law of all progress that it is made by passing through some stages of instability— and that it may take a very long time. And so I think it is with you; your ideas mature gradually—let them grow, let them shape themselves, without undue haste. Don’t try to force them on, as though you could be today what time (that is to say, grace and circumstances acting on your own good will) will make of you tomorrow. Only She could say what this new spirit gradually forming within you will be. Give Her the benefit of believing that her hand is leading you, and accept the anxiety of feeling yourself in suspense and incomplete." Adapted from Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, SJ, excerpted from Hearts on Fire. https://www.ignatianspirituality.com/prayer-of-theilhard-de-chardin/

Pauline Bogaard

I didn't vote because I don't really have a preference, just do what feels right. Just because of these kind of situations I chose to cap my pledge for 1 thing a month to the max I want to spend, så it doesn't matter for either of our bankaccounts :)

Andy Leeke

I want to mash them up and say ' it's ok to do the one thing, we're fine.' not just to relieve pressure now, but to maintain a sustainable pace. I have no expectations, no demands, no minimum requirement for my support. I was given mp3s of your work well over a decade ago, for free. I'm still listening to those songs. So you still get my money. If you posted nothing for a year I'd still be here. Do what you can, nothing more, nothing less. It's enough.

Noelle Rum

I'll enjoy your things whenever they come out. You've had covid. Recovery takes time. Adjusting to a new-old place takes time. It is our great privilege as patreons to be able to give you the time and space to live as well as to work/art.

Ben Duguid

I mean the overall effect appears to be the same to some extent: either it's two this month or three next? I've already capped my pledge at what I'm happy to pay each month so 1, 2 or 3 doesn't really make any difference to me, at which point the poll needs a third option of "see how you go"?

Olenka Fawkes

I vote leave it be since I nussed the option

Judith Verwij

Thanks for asking, firstly. Secondly I like supporting you in all your things. You are the one who can and has to prioritiise what comes first and when that is. Once a month is fine by me and when you feel like writing and sharing and asking more, feel free to do so. Love J

Rose Cooper

The thing is - not all Things are created equal(ly). When I first joined you thinged the book drive, a few songs & clips, an animation…all things that would seem to be expensive to make. And were major artistic & political statements. Is a journalistic article, as big of a Thing? Like one other commenters said, I catch up on your Things when I have time and there have been times when I fell way behind in your Things. Cos I was concentrating on my things. Only you know what your output cost, in both outsourcing labour, and in using up your own personal emotional labour. I’m leaning towards the monthly subscription model too, because then you can plan & budget and not have the weight of deadlines hanging over you or the fear that you’re not producing enough to exist on. You have admitted that you’ve been a very fortunate person for having an income - from the patreon, but if that has you Thinging things that you, yourself are not sure are worth Thinging - I think you need to sit with that for a while. Redefine the model. It has evolved. And this is the time in Ash’s life that he needs you the most. It goes so fast. A rejigged monthly Subscription that makes you feel less stressed seems to be the best option. I pay just to be kept in the loop at this point. To feel connected to YOU. Your earlier output was waiting to fall out of you. You really needed the bread for those projects and I’m so proud I was present back then. But now I’m just like - please live your life for a while. I don’t want you to miss a thing x

Isa

Do your thing in your time and pace. Capping the pledge is always an option, isn’t it?

Amanda Forde

I'm new to the Patreon but a longish term fan in the old fashioned buying CDs and gig tickets sense. This is the first time I've tried to interact with you more directly. I feel like you are stuck in a cycle of trying to give us too much, burning out and feeling guilty. I'm a parent too and I don't have time to read everything you put out. I've read a lot of what you put out for non Patreons in the past anyway and that's plenty for me. I'm not really here for that. I'm here because I've realised you're not likely to make a new album for me to buy in the immediate future but you could still benefit from my support.

Kim Lightfoot

I haven’t voted because it’s neither - need a third option that says ‘no pressure, I’m happy, do what works for you!’

Sophie Cleverly

I wouldn't mind two things, but I feel like you might need a break! Speaking as a writer mum who spent the entire last week on kid stuff and chores instead of writing 😆 whatever you'd rather do is good with me

Shane Maxwell

As I think others have said.. I didn't vote because I want you to do what is best for you. I am here to support you, and to be part of the community. I am capped where I want to be capped. I am happy to read stuff later if I don't have space when you release it. But I also want you to rest, if that is better for you right now. Like everything else in life, creativity works in cycles. It ebbs and flows. Recognising this, a monthly subscription might make more sense. Then you don't have to do a Thing in order to get paid, and you can create when it is flowing, and do life when that is present for you. I would be happy to subscribe to this model.

john jost

you're not on an assembly line in some artist factory. let your creations flow at their own pace. isn't that the whole point of this patronage deal? relax, and enjoy the process.

Gail

I really didn't know what option to put. I feel if you do one thing, do the Ask Amanda, as you gave us the wonderful video post last week. Man that was special, you attract an amazing group of people who contribute, and as someone from Aotearoa I really see why you love the confident 'out there' Americans of your home country. I sense that you sometimes give too much of yourself to others and perhaps right now you need to look after yourself a bit more. I know we give you energy back but it does sound like you need to reel things in a little to get yourself through this moment in your life x

Mark in Portsmouth

Like many here I want a third option. To my mind, the whole idea of Patreon is to support the artist being an artist. At any particular time, that might involve creating, thinking, recharging or simply coping with stuff. Stuff happens and sometimes stuff that should happen doesn’t happen. Our financial contributions (well my small contribution at least) is there to give you the freedom to create without the worry of schedules, deadlines and other demands. We are paying for you to be you, because we like you being you - you do it so well. We pay, so that you don’t have to be on a treadmill, you don’t have to punch the clock, you don’t have to stay on the tracks. Don’t respond to that by chaining yourself to a production line of your own making Amanda. Wander freely. We are not looking for a coin-operated girl Amanda - we are in love with a living, breathing, gloriously creative artist.

Anna McCotter

I voted on you’re putting out too much, but really babe you’re doing too much for us and not your self. Go organise, clean , unpack, take a goddamn day off , just because you’re back in America doesn’t mean we’re suddenly going to expect you to drop everything and put your self on the back burner. But I can only speak for myself. And i know you and I know your work list is endless, your creativity and compassion and ambition is endless. And I know that because you’re asking and touching base with us , most likely is you needing to put yourself first. Essentially you’ve been displaced or even homeless, a lack for a better word, and I can completely relate. And nothing will ever be okay if you can not find the time to settle. Shit, this can take a while, a long while, time seems to be disappearing at a faster rate these days, but you know that it’s a waste of time if you’re not healing. I love you. And I vote for not eating everything on your plate unless your starving. (((🤍)))

Anna McCotter

Ps don’t forget you’re one Hayley short, and that too effects a lot in itself

Petra Griesenauer

Please switch to a monthly model - less stress for you and I would not mind at all if there is a longer period when you release nothing at all - you cant force it!

Jim Lloyd

I always figured you stuck to the "per thing" versus "per month" to push you along and keep you from being complacent. You do seem to like having a deadline ;-). And I did cap my pledge (as you've always suggested) so I'm not worried about the cost, so I figure getting both things off your plate now might help ease the pressure (if only a little). That said, the voting is really close! My guess is a lot of people are worried you're pushing too hard and don't want to burden you (the opposite of my take, but they may be right).

Kate Lockwood

You’re not an assembly line, you are an artist. Whatever you need is the right thing.

Alexandra Casswell Becker

I went with put out two things, because it doesn't bother me if two things come out back to back,but I would also have hit the third option of 'Do what is best for you' Don't break yourself. I benifited directly from this Patreon when we made the Mushroom Hunters animation together, and it took us aaaages, and we had to ask for more time from you guys as I recall, and you were entirely gracious and understood that we too were juggling kids and art, and that the art would be better if not rushed. So don't rush. Take time to breathe. Thing or don't thing and tidy or don't tidy. All will be well Xxx

Rose Somethíng

Do what feels right for you. We love you and don't want you to burn out. But I will greedily and immediately read everything you write that hits my inbox. I would love to read and watch and listen to as many things as you feel like making, for as long as you feel like making them, but not at the cost of draining your love of what you're doing because I know what that feels like and it SUCKS.

Samir Malak

Amanda, I voted the second option, because it sounds like you’re nearly done with the writing for the Ask Amanda column and there’s another paying community there, so that looks like low hanging fruit, so grab it, eat it, be nourished by it. Whatever you have for the Althing/Newsletter can be batched for next month. You are working on so many foundational things - “domestic stuff, Ash, home, hearth” . . . friends - getting these settled and sorted is going to give you solid ground for you creativity and contribution, right? When I’ve been grieving or recovering from Covid or transitioning to a new place (or an old place made new), I’ve been forced to slow down a bit to focus on the priorities, and give myself permission to deal with the churn. I love who you are, what you do and will continue to support you at your pace. - imagineer Samir

Samir Malak

PS: have seen some suggestions about restructuring patreon for a monthly model that is less stressful. I too pay to stay connected and support who you are being. With love and gratitude - imagineer Samir

Lynn Robinson

Thinking of you & your time - 1 piece of art especially if this takes pressure of you. You’ll have a nearly completed piece of art for next month in the bank . Wish I could wave a wand and give you more hours in a day 🧚‍♀️xx

Jennifer Tanner

I can honestly say that at this point in our relationship, I just want you to do what works for you. I'm not here for the things, even though I enjoy them, I'm here for the opportunity to let the world be new, and let new ways to support art and community develop.... Also, I picked the second option, not because you are putting out too much, but because it sounded gentler.

Michael Hargreave Mawson

I'm in a very similar position at the moment. We both need to accept that there are just so many things one can do before burning out. I have given myself a good talking-to, and laid down the law. 1. Do the easy bits first, and get them out of the way. 2. Do the vital/time-critical bits next, no matter how daunting. 3. Do whatever is necessary to keep the bills paid. 4. Fuck the rest of that shit. Tomorrow's fine. Or the Twelfth of Never. You've earnt a break.

Kelle Martin

I'm capped. Do what you can do. Love you, take what you need.

Charis Loveland

You do you, sweetie. We love you no matter what. Reduce your stress and take care of you <3

Katja Patton

I am capped too. Whatever works for you, I am here. Big love. Big hug.

braincolor

Here are my thoughts on your questions and beyond. For me, being a patron means something different than going shopping. When I go shopping, I give 1 money for 1 good. As a patron I give you my money because I know that you will do something "good" with it. This "good" does not have to include me. It can also simply mean that you are enjoying yourself and breathing. So you can write two texts or one or none. I don't know yet if I will read both or one or none. Being your patron is something similar to having an annual pass to a cool museum or theatre for me. Maybe I won't go there once all year, but they can still do things with my money. (I hope that's not a stupid way of putting it! Of course, you are a human being and not my pastime ...) XX<3

amandapalmer

that is an EXCELLENT way of putting it. i sometimes try to describe it as supporting a public radio station. you're not paying to tune in 24/7. you're paying for it to exist and when you wanna tune in...it's there for everybody.

Robert Hays

Life gets in the way of art... yep. I think you should try because trying is what makes us succeed. If you don't, you don't - nothing to feel bad about. If you do you do.

Kaitlin D.

The older I get the more I think living life is itself a type of art. We all do it differently and it often influences others. I don't know. It's still early and I haven't had enough coffee. 😊 Anyway, I second the monthly charge idea. I think most of us are here to support, whether it's writing or music or life. So go with whatever helps reduce stress right now.

Joanna Lindblad

I think this is a great way of "saying" it. I also like to think of the Patreon as a tip jar myself ;)

Linda Deschênes

I’m with Jennifer Tanner. “Also, I picked the second option, not because you are putting out too much, but because it sounded gentler.” And I love the museum pass/public radio analogy.

EmVT

braincolor I like the museum/theatre analogy on top of the broadcasting analogy because they tend to be more personal experiences than radio--insightful and relevant way of putting it!

Hilda Gertze

I don't need a thing at all, I just love being part of your community. I hope you're taking deep breaths. Sending hugs.

Laura Wellner

At first, I was unable to decide between the two voting options but went with #2 because I know for myself, there are times when projects come together perfectly, and times they don't go as planned if I push too hard, there's a chance that one or all will be fucked up, even a tiny bit fucked up is unacceptable. Life happens, the house needs to be cleaned (yeah, I need to vacuum my studio,) stuff needs to be unpacked and put away, Ash time is important, a friend's wedding is wonderful, and all the moving parts of life can be complicated and often interrupts the flow of creativity. IMO deadlines kill creativity, I sometimes set them for myself (tho' I call them goals) and if I manage to meet them, cool, that means I'm on fire and getting shit done (but is it good? That's the question. I'm a fuss-bug about having things "right.") If I miss the goal, I shrug it off, the project is just not ready for prime-time, not meant to be today, maybe tomorrow, a week, a month whatever the project needs to get it done and done to my satisfaction. It took me years not to beat myself up for not meeting my goals. Hayley is very wise and she knows you well. A monthly model might be worth it for you, whether you complete art or not, the patrons cap their monthly contribution to what they can afford, and life pressure comes off your shoulders. No pressure. Love & hugs!

Barbara Eastman

I find that when I push myself past a certain point, the product isn’t great. I don’t mean the whole procrastination battle thing we all have, the barrier we need to break through which is painful and annoying, but man oh man does it feel good to crash through the wall to the other side. I mean that there’s just to much on my plate and I know I’ve hit my limit. And I back off the to do list and hit a few important things instead of crashing through it and ending up with a less than stellar result. That’s where you are, Amanda. You’ve experienced a lot of life changes. Go monthly! I vote for that.

Jennifer Frandsen

Rest and take the time you need. Remember to breath and that you are amazing. This too shall pass.

Missy

So much upheaval with moving countries to a US that is not the same as you left, as well as Ash, take your time and don't burn yourself out.

erica munhoz

I haven't voted because my answer goes somewhere in the lines of what @braincolor said. I think of this space as somewhere we all chip in for you to do your work in your own rythm, and I love having access to your process, feeling in the loop. now, how many pieces of writing you chose to release at once really doesn't feel like an issue to me. In terms of reading them, it does take some time to read the allthing, which I love doing, and I am VERY interested in the column, I'm also considering kids in the near (???????) future, and this issue drives my little head insane. So if you do release both back to back, I'll probably take some time to read both, but sometimes that happens, I come back to posts from 2 or 3 weeks prior when I have time. What I did feel, though, was that maybe from your words you actually need this time for your house/kid/yourself/ etc, and maybe it would be good for you to take a bit more time on this one. If that's the case, please do. I love your writing, and I love your music and all other forms of art, I know that what we do here is help with the whole bulk of it, we're not here for this specific month's work, we're here for the long run, and it's great to be close to the "source", if you know what I mean. I guess that's maybe why people tend to go "do you, we support you". It's not (just) cause they're nice, it's cause that's how the patreon feels. What you said about the radio station makes a lot of sense, trust it.

Susan Lazarus

You make plenty of art, do the column, we can wait for the Althing! Monthly sounds beautiful!

Maryen Cairns

Cuppa tea, chill when you can, you mother us & your child - it's all good! I like monthly and give us yourself when you can. You got this - and we got your back. xxx

Romi

Focus on your well-being first and then being a mother to Ash. Writing and making art can take back seat. 💗❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎

Omenrose

Just breathe in, we're not going anywhere.

Caitlin Brown

So after sleeping on it all night I think I realized a huge part of you wants to DO THIS THING to prove to yourself that you CAN do this thing. Kind of that moment when you have to go to bed because you need enough sleep to take care of the kids in the morning but your brain goes "orrrr I could stay up until 1am and get so much shit done and feel like a badass but also wake up completely burnt out and miserable." And yes, I completely give you permission to do that. It's certainly not ME I'm afraid of overwhelming. Sometimes you just need to feel like a badass.

Neil P

Plus one for The Nap Ministry. I think Tricia Hersey is one of the most important voices out there these days. Can't wait to read her (imminent) book.

Rexington Funk

Funnily enough, I actually feel opposite of what you might expect. I am an artist too, a fabric artist, and I also have Patreon but it only has 20 patreons. Over the summer I took a break and *paused payment* and I lost 3 patreons. That’s 15%! Point I’m making is if you take time off of work, especially months, its not going to be the exact same when you get back. I don’t have to say this to you of course, I know youve felt the sting of the patreons youve lost over the last 3 years. This is my tough love for you. You need prioritize your job. I read your every post on instgram, every dresden dolls email, every patreon post. (I have tickets to Woodstock even!) I attempt to listen to or read every sound youve breathed into a mic or computer for the last 18 years. And for the last three years it seems you have prioritized everything above your job (this patreon) and its starting to really take its toll on me. I am wishing there was more content. And not even music. Just writing. Just a blog, updates. It’s kind of a big deal in my life to hear about yours, and I feel were running on empty at this point. I know you worry about being a good mother, but let me tell you, you are. But It hurts when friends and family who prioritize their kids *every single time* instead of ever making room for anyone else. In the end, they lose their friends and the closeness of their family. Don’t end up like them. Ash is super important, but so is having a full life for yourself. Please prioritize this patreon. So yes! thing both things! PLEASE. Get them done. I don’t pay per thing personally (so maybe i have no place saying this) but the point is if I feel starved for content I’m sure theres plenty others that do too. Of course you should take the time you need to get over covid, take care of your dad, reintegrate into society and your house, but please don’t neglect your patreon. 😢😔 Ironically enough, it’s been a long intermission. Regardless of what you decide this time I’ll be here. I hope your life calms down and you find balance and peace ASAP. Looking forward to the Allthing (i enjoy reading it, including the messages from staff!), and to the ask amanda column, whenever they come out. 🤍

Claudia Rapp

I was going to say, go ahead, as you see fit - as you said, but it feels like you might be better off with more people saying, don't do too much ... unless you feel like doing too much. You know? My reply would be, listen to your gut: writing moar or cleaning house? In any case, once again, lots of love to you. Donut Queen!

Jeannine

You're not putting out too much for me, but you're possibly not finding the rhythm for what you can do right now...which is not what you ideally think you could and should do. I get it. My kids are grown, and I tried my best to do everything while they were young, and I was doing it basically alone. I couldn't do it all, but I tried...and I let go everything that I personally wanted to do and any social life outside of family and work. For more than 2 decades, in fact. So you need to find what's a realistic rhythm for you--what matters most. Then don't beat yourself up about what you choose to let go.

Alan Wilder

Amanda. I have about 90 things still marked as unread going back to posts from NZ. I can’t keep up with your activity now. Take a break!

Katie Roberts Art

I really don't care/mind Amanda - I have been missing you here and pay per month so it really doesn't bother me. Although I would like more content (I'm on the lowest tier so don't expect much) please don't burn out but don't agonise over it either - I get irritated by you asking us and shilly shallying to be honest. I will have to say Ruxington Funk has a point. I'do get pissed off when I see you post so much to Instagram then here, they don't pay you, we do. Having said all that, I really don't mind too much. I just think you need to make sure you are more centred and grounded and focusing on these three things: your family/friends, your music and us. I know your writing matters but I you push yourself SO much to try to squeeze everything in and out of life and it's exhausting to watch.listen to sometimes. Is it unfair to say you seemed much more grounded and had lower expectations of your self in New Zealand and I liked your content more. Read us a damn poem from a mountain again and don't write such long posts for all I care. Send us an audio ramble in the bath again. Please post some photos of the forest as it turns towards autumn, tinker on the piano, play with Ash, share a few photos and words with us and don't exhaust yourself and us with self-imposed deadlines and expectations. There, you wanted truth and hard lessons and love. Now come here and have a cuddle, take off all your clothes, have a bath and crawl into bed. Or write/play/sing/cry. We love you either way. Hugs. Xxoo

Chad Boykin

Take care of yourself first, like the oxygen mask on the airplane ✈️

Alexander McKenzie

Dear Amanda, I'm your patron on Patreon to support YOU. I mostly don't read what you write - I wait for you to sing. If you like writing, go for it. Do what you can and don't try to do more. Take care of yourself, take care of Ash, then when those are done do what you can for your patrons.

Jann

I am capped at one thing so what you do doesn't affect me financially. So I am fine with either. It sounds like life is running away with you, catching you in a maelstrom of activity. My advice, fwiw, is to breathe. Stay present. Pick one thing to do that is in front of you. Pick the juiciest, most appealing one. Then breathe again. Stay present. Isn't it funny how much time we spend in our heads regretting the past or worrying about the future when both are just thoughts and all we ever have is the ever moving present moment? Be here now. Catch the ball that is in front of you and move on. Know that the truest and most real things we have are love and the present moment and when we combine the two, we have art and we have joyful relationships and we have peace. Blessed be. You are so loved.

PATRICIA COLE

And please know that whatever you decide, you will deal with it. In your own wonderful Amanda way.

Nicole Prehoda

While I voted for two things, the real answer is: it's OK whatever you do! of course take care of you and yours first. All else will be fine. But you seemed to want to know it would be OK to do two things back to back and it is! And I think you'll feel better getting both out--you're so close! But hey, what do I know? :)

Maggie McNally

I’m a low level member, so whether you do 1 or 2 things isn’t impactful for me or you, but if you burn yourself out it will. For me, being allowed to be a voyeur into your creative process and receive the gift of your creative output is why I am here. I am not a parent (my choice, made years ago), but I’ve watched people be swallowed alive by their commitment to their child/children, and then be without their friends when they emerge from the caregiving cocoon. I trust you to make the right decision for yourself (notice I did not say Ash). I don’t care which path you choose, just put one foot in front of the other and do what fulfills you.

Leslie Hennis

I've been here. So advice coming your way. The house will always need cleaning. Ash will take as much time as you will give him. Write down all the things you need to do. Break it down into four hour pieces or less. Write them all down on a list. Take the top five for the day and put the rest aside as distractions. Do the top five. Also, schedule time for each activity. Make sure one item is fun or something you want to do and don't need to do. So, I tend to write better after waking up. The kid comes home around 3 and needs help with homework. Kid goes to bed 8-9. For example, if I were you I would get up, get kid to school, write outline for chapter one or write chapter one, eat lunch, pay bills, unpack a couple of boxes, get kid from school, help with homework and snack, have fun with kid, dinner, kid bedtime, practice piano in the evening. Follow this routine and get your five things done per day. If you have time, work on the sixth thing. If you were in the groove on writing and didn't want to stop, do the things you didn't get done first thing tomorrow and fill in with the next three priorities. After a week, the chaos should calm down and a routine settle in. If you need chaos, save it for the weekend when you have Ash.

Ciaran Dalton

We are your mirror, your echo chamber, we are all in the same boat. Life is busy, chaotic, and overwhelming for most of us right now. Just as you struggle to manage all of life's responsibilities, I think that your audience would struggle to appreciate and even read 2 things right now. Focus on publishing one. We can handle one. Two will cause our plate to overfill, probably resulting in both things going by the wayside.

Tammy Meier

I never finish reading the all thing. My favorite "thing" is a morning ramble. I love seeing people in their authentic experience - which is your sweet spot. It's why I'm here.

Melanie Scharrer

I don’t think you need my permission to do or to not do. I trust you to know your heart and to make the art that comes from it. That’s why I’m here anyway.

Martha Mountain

Deep breaths, girl. I'm here for you whatever you decide to do with this but I really don't want to you add to the stress in your life by trying to tie yourself to a chair when you've got a LOT of things that could make that not doable. FWIW, I find the lack of cadence fun. It reinforces that inspiration is not on a schedule and when it comes you've got to ride it. And when it doesn't, keep on keeping on and trust that it;'ll be back. (And while I'm not arguing that you should thing setting up your house, I do think that it could in fact be an art project. and perhaps if you think of it that way it won't be so daunting cause it might be more fun) anyway, please take care of yourself, you're in a very weird place right now and all those 'you can't pour from an empty cup' and 'put your mask on first' adages are adages for a very good reason.

Midge

I chose leave it be not because I don’t want a thing, but because as a human and a mother, I know the position you’re in. I identify so very hard with this. I also have ridiculous to do lists that rely on me getting up at stupid o’clock. Just breathe. Do you. You keep saying you’re going to take it easy and then don’t take it easy. Actually taking it easy requires not working. Do the rest thing (well, the mama version which isn’t always all that restful but is a shit-ton easier than doing the working and the mama thing. Thing three things next month. This of us who want to can limit our pledges. Or just do two things. We’re here. We’ve got you. Rest.

Rebecca Ryan

I’m on the lowest tier here so… but always feel warm and fuzzy and lovey, when you post anything.. at anytime ☺️💜 Stop..and take a breather…x

Katherine North

I put two because I wanted you to know that it was ok to do that if that’s what feels like peace or relief to you, but let me echo everyone here in saying: we’re all in it. We’ve got your back. Hang in there.

Dana

i'm a pledge-is-capped person, for reference, and i voted for one Thing. but, honestly? a couple of posts like this a month is .. plenty? i don't expect a Thing Every Month. my view of the Patreon (for you, and the others i support) is... just that, support? so you can Do The Stuff. i figure the Patreon annual cost of a couple of CDs (at regular retail pricing) or what i'd pay for a concert ticket is how i can help support people. because i want you to do the stuff that makes the world nicer. and sometimes that means taking a nap. or hangin' out with your kid. ♥

Andrea Majeski

I chose leave it be but not because I'm annoyed with the amount of content being put out. That's ways fine. I can come to it when I have a moment to come to it. I say leave because I think you should take the time you need to take to feel some sense of caught up/on track/less heavy with the weight of it. Focus on longevity of self. Love.

Monica Byrne

Lol I can’t vote for either, because what I want is for you to do what’s easiest, most mental-healthy, and most conducive to peace of mind FOR YOU! Do whichever that one is! ;)

Betsy Cacchione

I love you Amanda. I am your patron, not because I need you to put out material on a regular basis, but because I support the idea of your type of art BEING in the world. And the possibility of your type of art to exist also requires the down time which allows it to percolate. None of us can create when we are burnt out. I am exhausted right now. Everything is happening all at once. I have barely kept up with the omega group - I scan the group chat once in a while. I barely answer my phone. I barely have time to glance at what you are putting out all the time but I read some of it and keep all of it and file it away into a place where I can go back and read it or watch it or listen to it later at my leisure. This time is crazy. I think your poll is a little complicated. So I would be careful of how you read your response. If you need the money, thing both things. If you don't have time to do the writing and are only doing it because you feel like we need you to be producing something, don't worry about it. The way the poll is worded - some people are going to choose the second answer because they don't want you to burn yourself out. So I am clarifying. Be what YOU need to be. Because that is what I need you to be. Just - to BE. Love and hugs coming your way. I will see you at the Dresden Dolls show in September. Gonna wrap my arms around you again and remind you that what you are - is enough. (And it will never be enough) But it is enough. In this epic maelstrom. You're doing good. (Betsy from Omega group)(PS - there's going to be a small group of Omega-ites at Woodstock Dresden Dolls weekend- hoping a tiny hug compassion reunion might arise for a moment amongst it all. We could probably all use a big group hug - if you'd care to be at the center.)

Karen Wohl

I agree with the first two comments above, and this is the first time I’ve ever commented, but this is how much I feel this, that this has drawn me to actually comment for the first time. Like the above voices I also would say do only one thing not because you’re asking too much from us but because you’re asking too much from yourself. I want you to feel enough support and enough grace to be -able- to do the art that I am on your patreon to support, and that includes not pushing yourself to the wall. Please take time and space and -grace- for yourself too. I love you. I am happy to wait and keep paying into your patreon no matter what.

Susan Cohen

FWIW, I'm webchat level but only because that's the $$ that I want to give. I'm perfectly happy hearing from you WHENEVER and don't give a ratsass about when or how much. I just like hearing your voice in the world.

Paula Gaber

I don't mind two things, but to be honest, I probably won't have the bandwidth to read/absorb that much in a short period of time. More likely, I'll tell myself I'll get to it later, then it will get buried in the email pile.

Lisa Howe

Amanda, your Patreon said you make Things—not just music, not just art. So whatever you make that is creative and Thing-like seems to me can qualify as a release. I’m not worried about you releasing multiple things per month because I have set my cap, as everyone should do. So that’s why I’m totally fine with you releasing two things even if they are close together, if that is what you want and need to do. I also want to say I understand that quiet panicked feeling that comes with life being so full that art can’t be made. In my case it’s an elderly mother with mental illness and dementia rather than a child and sick rescue cats and cleaning out my moms apartment rather than unpacking 3 years away from home taking up all my time. I know things will be different at some point soon, but right now it feels like I will never again have space to breathe and drop into my creativity. I hope things begin to ease for you in the near future. I am exhausted all the time these days. I know I need to root back into yoga practice and walking outside and generally refill my cup and live in the present. But it feels like there is no time for anything except surviving the present. Sometimes it’s just hard. It feels sucky that the best option might be to just acknowledge that it’s hard and sit with that shit. I’m really not good at that. In solidarity! ♥️

Alex Pugh

Honestly, I don't have the bandwidth to read almost any of the posts but your music and book have meant so much to me throughout my life that I'm pretty much here just to throw money at you. And anytime I do have the extra time I love popping in to see what's going on. Do the thinging, or even do the three things in October, whatever!!

Elyssa G

I want you do to what you want to do. That seems like the beauty of patronage, that we can support you, however you are, in real time. Reading your message drove home for me that everything is a circle, a cycle-- some periods are creation heavy and others are survival and rest, and that's NORMAL. So if you need rest, please rest. If you need to create, please write. ❤️

Rhiannon Marshall

'Overwhelmed' that's a word I really relate to right now & one I've heard a lot lately from others. Maybe there's something in the air right now in the world. I'd write more but I've just seen this just as I've gotten home from work &, in a few seconds, I'll be heading through the door to relieve my parents of their child care duties & giving my near 2 & 1/2 year old, Aoife, my undivided attention until she goes to sleep. If I don't fall asleep with her (as I did last night) I'll come back & say more but, if I don't, then I want to send epic mum solidarity & you all my love, as always. My feelings on the 'thing' thing do what you feel you can & what your gut tells you is right. Always trust your gut xxx

DJ May

Hey Amanda! Fellow writer here. I’ve been in a huge slump lately—nothing is percolating and my mind feels very very heavy. I told another writer friend about my unease about writing while I feel this way, and he said, “Wait. It’s okay to let things rest. We all have seasons, and sometimes you need time to do the other things so you have good, whole, coherent thoughts when you come back.” So there’s my two cents. It might be time to rest, and that’s okay!

Sean McGinley

It sounds to me like moving to a monthly model would likely ease some of the concerns you have around thinging the things & the timing of deliverables, so from that point of view, I definitely support the monthly model. If you decide to keep the per thing model, I'm not going to be disappointed that you delivered content back to back so either way, I'm here & support whatever model works best for you :)

Anneliese L

I voted for the first option but agree that there should be that third one of just do what YOU need to do. Create what you want to create when you can and want to create it. I’m a small supporter money-wise but a supporter nonetheless. If you need space and time to not “thing” only to “thing” the right thing for you, that’s what you need. I wouldn’t drop patronage for lack of things or multiple types of the same thing. The only reason I’d drop patronage would be if I could no longer afford to do so or if for some reason I disagreed with the content all of a sudden. An artist should be making the type of art that’s right for them in the moment, not what they’re “expected” to make.

The Laughing Muse

Thanks for asking, but to echo a lot of others here: do whatever is going to bbe easiest on you. We're all Going Through Stuff right now (well, all the time, but right now it's turned up to eleven) and creativity has never been a tame beast that heels to schedule. Be gentle with the squidgy parts of you (heart, mind, soul), because those are the parts that support everything else.

Kelly Rainey

I'm capped to protect my budget and not have to think about this so I would be perfectly happy for you to move to a monthly model so you don't have to think this way either. I, like the others commenting, am a patron b/c I want to ensure that your contributions to the world can continue. I don't much care when/how often...b/c I know full well that you don't take the support lightly and you use it to do exactly what I want to do... turn the cosmic art wheel.

Matt Tong

I'd say do what feels right here. Content happens at the pace it happens, especially stuff like blog posts. I'd say though that I'm thinking of dropping. Not from the pace of blog updates. I was really into the Art in the Mail, and enjoyed the first couple I got a lot, but that doesn't seem to happen all that often considering. $25/month is just too much for a small art piece one per year or so. (I'd thought it was $25/thing, where thing was an item in the mail. Until I set a monthly limit, it was charging me $25 for each blog post!!!) Anyways, where the drop may happen soon, I didn't want it to be thought of as part of the change.

Charles Mills

You always play fair by us. I am happy for you to take a little pressure off and do the one thing. Love you whicever.

Hunchinson

peace on your head, lovely!

Julia Thompson

I've capped to one at the moment as money is a bit tighter, so it doesn't affect me financially, but I do feel you need to do what is right for you. When it wasn't capped so tightly I was quite happy with more than one thing - I didn't always have the time to digest it all at the time, but the point of patreon is to give an artist space to feel creative and not churn out material. The monthly model suits me with other accounts - sometimes there's a quiet month, sometimes there's lots, but that's OK. Take care of yourself. x

Tamara

I say don't thing for thinging's sake. Share a quality thing.

Yael Mehl

I love you. Everything you give us is enough. You are always enough. Be good to yourself. ❤️

Hayley Rosenblum

If you make the move to monthly, I don't think anyone needs to opt-in to it, I think it'll automatically change for everyone depending how your reward tiers are set up. Definitely talk to the Patreon team, they'll help make it as painless as possible.

Ria

Stop worrying. Do what feels right.

Jacquie Bazinet

As a Creator of Things and Master Procrastinator with ADhD... I'd say do what your body and mind allows you to do. One step/thing at a time. Multitasking is baloney for me.

John Doherty

My one comment was the the way the poll was written The last part of the second option " you're putting out too much" should read " you never dissapoint with what you create and share"

Jenna Tomlin

Oh. Don't worry about it. Do what you need to do; do what feels best for you. We're here. We understand because we have lives that demand too much of us sometimes too (or these days, most of the time). If you put out two things at once, okay. If you space them out to give yourself breathing room, okay. ::hug:: Do what you need to do for your heart, for Ash, and for your brain. I love you.

Kristen Slovak

I care full time for 2 elderly family members (mom and aunt). If they have taught me anything (and they have taught me a LOT) it is to slow down. Save the push and the adrenaline. The things can be done without them.

Larissa Rook

I have no answer. I just support YOU. and trust that you will do what is right (or write) for YOU (see what i did there?). aeriously, you have inspired me to strap myself down to my kitchen chair and write, and edit and upload etc… for my very own Patreon account I am launching Oct 1st. i am also a full time mom and know how challenging this can be. especially coming off of a two and half year pandemic. it’s fucking hard. but we can squeeze in moments for art whenever and however we can. you got this. and we got you.

Tracy Harris

The amount I subscribe I am happy to give. The amount of content you produce does not matter to me. If you charged me twice for one piece of writing I would not notice or worry. Love to you - take care.

amacker

I don’t know where you get the energy! I’m exhausted from moving, going to Burning Man, cleaning up my old shop space in Benicia, moving another truck and trailer load… The last… from CA to north TX & Somehow I think I have a good compared to what you’re going through. Well not really. Because art. I need to do Art! And I need to write. And I need to figure out where all the stuff I’m hauling back is going to go. Ugh. Nap time.

Catherine Hannah

I would like for you to realize that, for me anyway, Patronage to an artist is for the *Potentiality* of your creating something. It is to give you the freedom not to worry about the money coming in so much. Not because I want to peer into your existence like a crabby old miser every minute and say, "Are you CREATING RIGHT NOW?!???" If I want an "Art For Hire" scenario, I will commission for it. So, try to cut yourself some slack. I think I would keep paying you a LONG TIME, and not even come close to filling the " Judy Blume" bucket....

Jess Hartmann

I am here because I love Amanda Fucking Palmer (that's you). I'm here because The Art of Asking made me learn about, appreciate and respect the wonderous/terrifying life of the artist. I am here because I see how transparent and vulnerable you are being, and aspire to cultivate that kind of courage in my own life. When life is this crazy for you, you're allowed to be mindful of how you use your spoons. "Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." The most important thing, for me as a fan, is for you to take care of you. I'll still be around.

Randy E Chase

I know it has been said by others, but for me, being a patreon is not for a thing. It is a general support because of the appreciation of the person and the art. If you put something out, awesome. If you do not, maybe awesome is not the word :) but it is cool.

Pauline vd H

Girl, I’m a patreon because I like you and trust you. I don’t keep count. I might even miss a thing or two.

Arin Greenwood

I didn’t vote because I don’t quite agree with one above the other - in my opinion you should write both things if you have the energy and inspiration to do them both, regardless of what date the calendar tells you it is. Don’t hold off on one just because you think we don’t want to get Things back to back or on the same day, but hold back until next month if it makes it easier for you. We’ll be fine. We’ll always be fine. I am curious though about your decision to charge per Thing rather than per month - I get why you did it at the beginning, but honestly I would rather just pay you for you, Amanda the Artist, regardless of how many Things you can Produce per month. Because I trust that you will create when you can and share it with us when you can. The days of the month shouldn’t be what is in charge, especially these days when I feel like time is so fragile and speeds up and slows down constantly outside of our control. I hope this helps! ❤️

Robert Austin

AFP, I've been reading your recent posts, and you seem to me to be overwhelmed with life in general, and yours in particular. You can't work yourself out of being overwhelmed, My advice? Take some time for yourself. Turn your computers off. We'll still be here, waiting for you, when you're ready.

Mary Doyle

Amanda 🥰 - I am here to support YOU. I believe in you and I am learning to put my money into things/people I want to be a part of. I love Patreon because I know I’m helping an artist to be free from corporate leaches. If you do nothing for months, I still want to contribute because I know you’ll be back. You’ve had an incredible few years of chaos. Your beautiful child needs you. You need you. You need to nest (as my mother always called it). Nest, rest, love. There is no hurry. You are AFP and you always will be. I am more than happy to pay monthly, even if you put out nothing. I, and many, many others, care about YOU. Please, take my money and use your time filling your cup and loving Ash. 🥰🥰🥰 I love you Edited: I couldn’t vote. I don’t want to say “do a thing, or do both the things” because all I want is for you to have peace. Even if that is not doing any “things”. (But change to monthly billing 😉 - maybe temporarily 🤷‍♀️)

Michelle Turner

Amanda, you do not *need* to write two things, but if two things want to be written, we'll support you either way.

Lara Klemens

Hi, I answered the poll to reflect my own current behavior of "do things slowly and only what you can handle in a conscious fashion". (That would have led me to just doing the one thing.) That being said, if you have Two Things in you, great! I have always edited my Patreon to reflect what I can afford in monetary support whatever Thinging was happening. Monthly seems like a great option right now, and when (if) you get back to extra-prolific output or huge projects that need specific Thinging, change it back.

Áine Tyrrell

sending you love and as a patron, a patreon creator, and a mother, I know this intersection you are balancing. It is overwhelming sometimes and not wanting to let anyone down. I have learned in Patreon though through not being able to produce what I had due to long Covid and the death of my father suddenly, that most people are here purely cause they believe in the ART and YOU, not in the output. They don't count like we do as creators. They just are here. So you do what your soul is telling you to do. Also I don't know why but as a mother and musician the roles somehow both feel so overwhelmingly large at the moment. And then add in your move.. it is BIG!!! Just wanna say I feel ya, thanks for your honesty as always. And also its ok to make this decision for you! just do what your soul sings to do. Love ya

Seia Gamble

I personally don't get irritated about you publishing/not publishing/thinging/not thinging anything at all. Honestly? I don't really notice. I'm your patron to support you (and also to get art in return). To be uber frank (and not in a disrespectful or a you-think-too-much-of-yourself sort of way), I am way more focused on my own life. I only keep up with this patreon retroactively and catch up on things that are posted about once a month. So in a very non-empathic way, don't worry about this patron noticing you publishing or not publishing a thing, I won't. In an empathic way: don't sweat it. Make the choice based off of what you want and need to do for you and your income. I, personally, think a good organization is always in order the moment you think of it. If you're thinking about it. I'd rather you went and did that for a moment. If it's a choice between an article and you getting your house in order, just go get your house in order. You give us plenty of stuff. And, again, I'd never have noticed if you hadn't asked.

Jenny Lalor

When you say you’re putting out too much - I think this should be you’re trying to do too much - one thing is fine - you’ve earned an easy choice this month so take it easy x

Jerry Peckery

To be honest I'm really here for the music, the rest is nice but I support you cause that's how the Dolls continue. That's what I need. You do what you need to I'm in for the long haul. Plus TWBNI was such a big thing - I'm good for a while.

Melissa Lockhart

I am team “do what feels right,” so not voting one way or the other. There is no right or wrong answer here. I will always support my artists in whatever they choose to produce and set free in the world.

Kata Götz

Don't put so much pressure on yourself. It is indeed a fucking too much to deal with right now. We will be here and wait for you. Maybe moving to a monthly fee instead of per thing would take the pressure off you; I would be happy to go up a tear, if you would make an average of the things and make the entry level at 3€ or so...that would provide a steady income with less stress. Sending you love.

Olaf Lewitz

Good morning Amanda - lots of love from Berlin! I get two things out of paying: that I know you’re out there doing what you do - and that I get to feel “more connected” to you. I don’t care too much when you publish what or how much or even my “special access” to some things - I believe in what you do, I share a lot of your aspirations, and I celebrate the fact that it’s possible to do what you and I and others like us do. I want you to feel cared for and loved. That’s my gift. I give it because I can, and you may take it without any sense of debt. I’ve taken so much joy out of your art over the years, you’ve enriched my life so much - it’s worth paying for for many more years to come 😊🤗❤️

Skyeanna Malito

I picked the one I did, not because I think you're putting out too much, but because I think you're putting too much on yourself. September was an intensely weird month that somehow flew by, and we all need a bit of grace.

Viktoria Nikolova

Oh dear... I can relate very much although the "mom" part is missing in my life for sometime now. But from what I learned from you Amanda, from your book and the podcast and all the guest you spoke to, is really when things go so far that I can't take a decision, discussing it is good. But means that you should probably take care of yourself first. So I would recommend you to trust that sometimes is beter to take a step back and get the benefits of time, instead of pushing. An example from the complicated life of a small fish like me, doing 50 small jobs that sustained my income or cutting back and using the time to free my mind for big stuff. I am not babysitting for a year now and I am way ahead. Multiple this and trust that is for the best to use the time for yourself, and your house, and your mental state. Sending love!

Alessandor Earnest

I’m a little confused by the question, to be honest. My impression is you’re burnt out. You’ve been burnt out for a long time, and you need to do whatever you can to prevent yourself from getting more burnt out. It affects your health, tanks productivity, and the worse it gets, the longer it takes to recover.

kaminokai

For me, the more the merrier. But I know that is not for everyone.I am always trying to do too much. But, I also like doing a lot. And if you like doing a lot, you should. Creating is your thing. There is also something to be said for taking it easy now and then, and if this is that time, you should. Either way, I support you. Peace and love!

Elizabeth Harris

I think you should do as you feel you need to. That said, I just don’t have the bandwidth to keep up, right now. I need to find a way to rest and I just … can’t fit it into my life. Sounds crazy, but that’s where I am. It will change and then I’ll be able to catch up. Or let things flow away to the sea. Either way, I believe I’ll be alright whatever you choose. Sent with Lots of Love

Sarah Brennand

Sounds like you need a rest Amanda. Do what you feel is best for you.

James Cowie

Go ahead, your creativity of the allthing and "Ask AFP" and everything else are so inexorably linked and symbiotic that not doing so would create as many problems as it may first appear to solve. Re-immersing yourself and Ash back into the open Lunatic Asylum that is The United States of America is the larger and in my opinion more pressing issue. Finding some way to access the peacefulness of Te Ika-a-Māui or Te Waipounamu with the buzz and achievements of Bawstom Mass.

Mara Wüstenberg

A few days late, but I still want to say it. Yes to what all the others said: We love you. We want to support you. Do what's best for you. I personally don't care how much you put out. For me it's important to hear from you from time to time - to have the feeling of being connected. I love and respect you as an artist - but that's done. The creative things I already gained by your existence are already plenty. Sure I want you to continue as an artist - to have an artistic output but by god not monthly! It's all connected. Artistic/ creative work is not like other jobs. What you do in your daily life, how you live your live, places you go, people you meet, experiences you have, dreams you dream... all that has an effect on your output. So just living is part of the process. We are no maschines - there are times when the art bursts out and times when it builds up. I know it's hard to go on when there is so much inside thats want to express itself in an artistic way - and there is no time or energy to do this at this point in space and time. ok. than not now. Breathe. you are there with all that is within you. And we love you for that. Breath again. You can be just like that - your own artistic entity. I Love you just like that and want to support you just like that. And yes, I think a monthly fee would take the pressure of (also for me on the other end - I would not think Oh I have to read/ see that right now) - I really think it's agood idea.

Tim Goldstueck

Everything got very expensive these days, at least here in Europe. And I don't earn that much, it's a really hard time for me right now. Anyway, I limited my monthly Patreon output from the very beginning to a level I can afford easily. And I could adjust it if I want. Maybe I will, if things get worse in the future. Don't worry Amanda, you're not stealing my precious money 🤑💰

Róisín O'Connor

Amanda - like any workplace - is there space on the Patreon for annual leave, sick leave, and even, a sabbatical? There should be seasons and cycles. The work ethic is as much about quality … as quantity, and the art “production line” requires downtime. I’m on the lowest tier, and I’ve no problem you scheduling time for research & development, and then time for drafting, feedback, editing & then… launch. Anyone else agree?

Brian Fitzgerald

I think you're asking us to validate what you know in your heart to be true: you need to slow down. I'm never gonna run from being a patreon because you publish too much -- there's much you put out that I don't read already. It gives me warm fuzzies to know I'm helping you make art even when I don't see it. Slow down. Look after Ash. Nest. Let us buzz around in the beehive and produce honey from the daisies in the field and the flowers you've already planted - none of us expect a perpetual floral feast.