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Twin Peaks: The Return EP 17 & 18 Uncut Reaction (Patreon)

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EP 17 & 18 Uncut: https://vimeo.com/1199596219/c7b199edf4?fl=tl&fe=ec

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James vs Cinema

Figured I give Lost Highway & Inland Empire a try next! Leftovers I've been seeing recommened as well.

Bobbobbobo

Aw, you missed Gordon Cole's dick joke. Right at the start, apparently it was right after Albert and whatshername shot the fake Diane and she disappeared. At the start of ep 17, Gordon was holding his gun and saying regretfully "I couldn't do it Albert!" Albert says "You've gone soft in your old age." After forcing Albert to repeat it, Gordon quietly replies "Not where it counts, buddy."

Bobbobbobo

When Diane reappears, look at her hair and her fingernails. Her hair is red, the color of the curtains in the red room. Her nails alternate black and white, like the floor of the red room.

Tykjen

Sound Design: David Lynch. Incredible work across the series. Fun Fact: The woman who opens the door at The Palmer's house actually lives there IRL!

William Davis

I loved watching you experience this show James! I am both baffled and satisfied by this ending. Obviously I can’t know what David Lynch and Mark Frost had in their heads, but I have a theory. I think that when Cooper went back in time to try and prevent Laura’s death, he inadvertently created an alternate universe where everything is worse and the evil entity of Judy has control, and the tragedy and trauma of Laura’s death is destined to repeat itself over and over again. As you pointed out, it seems that Laura can still feel the trauma of what happened to her, even though she is alive and has a different name. I think this could play into a bigger message about how the past can’t be erased. But that’s just my interpretation, anyone can disagree.

William Davis

It’s interesting that you have cited Dark as one of your favorite shows, because I kind of feel like the ending to Twin Peaks is sort of like the negative version of the ending to Dark, where the time travel ruins everything instead of fixing everything.

Brittany Rubio

Considering that the woman who lives in the Palmer house in the finale actually lives in the house, makes me look at the entire finale differently. The Return is very much an anti-reboot in how it teases out and sometimes outright denies the viewers callbacks that they expect from such things, the biggest example being Dougie/Cooper. The show also has interesting ways of referencing itself from the outside looking in, such as the scene where Cooper finally wakes up and we hear the show's theme song swell, but also when Audrey is called to perform her iconic dance. But the end, to me, feels like a strange message about what creative projects become when the cult around them grows mythic. Cooper and Laura/Carrie have entered *our* world, where they only exist as characters on a TV show. The house isn't just the house from the show, real people live there. The things that happened there weren't real, and yet they were, because we all remember them from Twin Peaks and Fire Walk With Me. We hear Sarah Palmer yell Laura's name before Carrie screams, stuck in the loop that is her tragic story. They don't really exist, yet in a way their story never ends because the show can always be revisited and rewatched again and again. But the TV can also be turned off, just like all the lights in the house go out before the credits roll. They only exist so long as we give them our attention. Even if Cooper saves Laura, she is also always dead. Like Lynch's original idea for Twin Peaks where the mystery is never solved, the story lives on forever in an endless loop, Laura eternally whispering to Cooper in the infinity of the black lodge about everything and nothing but ultimately we’ll never know what it was she said and it almost doesn’t matter. /endrant lol

Kyle Turman

While I'm not the only one to think any of this, my headcanon is Dale and the rest of the blue rose task force all had what in Dark Souls terms would essentially be the souls of warriors soldiers or hunters, who had no conscious knowledge that their job in the universe is to stop evil spirits/demons. And in that fight against these demons they were essentially given a divine infused weapon, the soul of Laura Palmer. Lauras spirit was irresistible to everyone (why almost everyone seemed sickeningly in love with her) especially and most importantly to Judy and her progeny Bob. Eventually Dale tricks Judy, who is unable to let go, into following Lauras soul into the new universe. Once Dale finds Carrie and perhaps unknowingly confirms the trap is set, Laura seems to wipe that new universe out of existence. Thus deleting, or at least trapping and quarantining, Judy and keeping her from spreading to other worlds like before Again, just some headcanon nothing definitive

Bobbobbobo

That lady in the old Palmer home, in the last scene, Alice Tremond. You probably noticed that her acting was a little stiff. No shade on her: she wasn't an actor. She's the actual owner of that house, in the "real" world! Tremond isn't the real woman's name, though. I'll get to that in a second. One of my pet interpretations of Twin Peaks is that it's ultimately about stories, and storytelling. The stories we tell ourselves, the stories we tell each other. We're characters in our own dreams and in each other's dreams. One of the common (though far from canon) interpretations of the finale is that Richard is the real guy, an FBI agent stationed in Odessa Texas, and Dale Cooper is the man that Richard wishes he could be, and Cooper's doppelganger is the man that Richard fears he might be, deep down. Linda is a real woman too. She's Richard's (ex) wife. Diane is the person who Richard wishes she was, and Diane's doppelganger was who he was afraid she was deep down. During that long drive, they stopped conspicuously at that Valero gas station, surrounded by dark nothingness. Nothing really happens there so you naturally wonder why they had the scene there. I think it's important that Valero is a real chain of gas stations. They're all over out west. Elsewhere in the series they sometimes conspicuously avoided real-world brand names. In the bar where Sarah bit off that guy's face, there was a neon sign that looked just like a Miller Lite sign but it just said "Lite Beer" or something like that. The only brand names that seemed to be "real" over most of show were cigarettes, but we know that David Lynch considered cigarettes to be transcendent items. I think in that scene at the gas station, they were signifying something about transitioning the story to something closer to the real world. Mysteries still abound, though. Going back to that last scene, Alice Tremond lives in the Palmer home now, and she bought it from someone named Chalfont. Way back in season 2, when Donna briefly took over the Meals on Wheels deliveries from Laura, she met an old woman on the route named Mrs Chalfont. Her grandson was at the house with her (played by, I kid you not, the son of David Lynch). The kid showed a magic trick where he magically transferred the creamed corn (garmonbozia) from Grandma's tray, into his hands. This freaked Donna out and she left. When she returned, a much younger lady answered the door, named Alice Tremond (I might have these names reversed). Tremond said she'd always lived at that house, and she'd never heard of a Mrs. Chalfont. We did see that Mrs. Chalfont again, though. In FWWM, she and her grandson were both in the room with the formica table, the room above the convenience store, where there was also the short guy (the Man From Another Place, aka The Arm), along with Bob, a dirty woodsman in a chair, and a guy in a red suit with a mask with a long pointy nose (that guy briefly appeared in ep 17 as well). In the movie, she also appeared to Laura, in the prequel time, and gave her the painting with the angel in it (the angel that eventually disappeared and "saved" Laura, in some sense, in her death scene at the end of FWWM). So who is Mrs Chalfont, really, and who is Laura? Who is the dreamer? I've been thinking about this show for almost a decade and I still don't know. And that's the best thing about it. When interviewers tried to get Lynch to explain his work he always refused, and he usually said "The film is the thing." Like a true experience, it can't be reduced to words. If it could, nobody would make the film. On the subject of what to watch next, here's a wild idea (only half serious): take some time with other things, sure, let this settle. But In a couple years, if you get the itch, do another series of reactions to Twin Peaks, the second time around. I don't know how many times I've watched this series from beginning to end, but each time I've noticed new things and thought about it a different way. Too many reaction videos out there are "first time watching." A series like Twin Peaks rewards repeat viewings. I for one would watch from beginning to end if you did this series a second time around.

József Gergelics

I'd want to submit a video here that you could watch or maybe even react to. This explained the whole of twin peaks s1-s2-FWWM-s3 to me unlike any other theory/explanation I've ever heard. In short: Cooper went full FA/FO, and boy did he find out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiO_o5S_g7s&

PeaceandCheese

Thanks for these reactions, always love a rewatch and first impressions are usually wtf lol. I first watched them when I heard how good The Return was 9 years ago. Watched them twice since and The Return maybe 4th time now. There are videos 'explaining' Twin Peaks but I think the point is there is no full explanation, there never was and that's awesome. On my 4th watch of this I'm now wondering if Cooper is Cooper or Richard. Did Cooper and Twin Peaks actually exist? If they carry on visiting places would it be all different people like at Laura's house? I only get this from the way Cooper is at Judy's diner, unless he's just in serious saving the world mode, but he doesn't say yes thanks for his coffee like the usual Coop lol. It's all left ambiguous and I love it :)

Kazserah

That was quite the journey. Tremond and Chalfont are names that have been mentioned before. The trailer park owner said the Chalfonts owned one of the trailers before, and Tremond was that old lady Donna would do meals on wheels for, with the boy who did magic. Idk why their names were tied to the ending though. I wasn't sure how to feel about this season the first time I watched, but on every rewatch I liked it more and more until it not only became my favorite season, but my favorite piece of media of all time. And every time I rewatch I notice more details, connect more dots. Even now. Some people try to say the whole meta thing is the entire point of the series, but I disagree. It's certainly a part of it, but it's just one layer. You should definitely check out Inland Empire. Also, I think you'd love the series Deadwood. Nothing like this, but a very solid western series by HBO. I haven't seen The Leftovers myself, but it's on my list so perhaps I'll watch with you if you start it. BTW I'm really glad James played a part in the conclusion. Wish Donna was in the series though. They recast her once, why not again? Anyways, it's been fun!

Diarmid

Throwing another vote in for The Leftovers definitely has that complex creative mystery similar to twin peaks

Broncaho

I just wanted to make sure this got out there one last time. It's worth checking out ANY of the official behind-the-scenes material for Twin Peaks: The Return; it's as compelling as the show itself. How he directs, works with his cinematographer, how they prepare for backwards scenes in the Red Room. I'm not sure if it all is, but some of it is on YouTube. Thanks for the hang in Twin Peaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idyQKdc8G8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBku9qAGQzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im07r-0IH_s

Dale Cooper

Have you heard about a show called Carnivale? It's an awesome weird show that was ahead of its time but was cancelled after 2 seasons because it was very expensive to produce (2003-2005). It is worth watching nonetheless. Thanks for your twin peaks ride!

George Ray

Such a great, weird and strange journey seeing you react to this and so glad you did. I wanted to lay out my interpretation just to get it out there, feel free to agree or disagree with me but this is how it all makes sense to me. All roads lead to Judy/Jowday. Major Briggs said in Season 2 that fear and love open the door and that's exactly what we see in episode 1 where Sam + Tracey have sex the entity of Judy/Jowday comes through in their world through the box. I believe Judy was created as the evil that men do through the first atom bomb testing in New Mexico as we see in Part 8, that creates a new or reawakens this evil through that. Judy/Jowday gave birth to Bob and we knew how that story played out through the original series. This ended up being Cooper's mission all along, to defeat Judy and save Laura. But doing so has major consequences for himself, to forever being trapped in this darker version of Twin Peaks. In Cooper's speech in Part 17 he said some things will be different or something to that effect. In part 1 when we first see Cooper and the fireman he tells him remember 430, Richard and Linda, two birds one stone. Cooper says he understands as the fireman says he is far away, this is the key to everything in the conclusion. Fear and love open the door to Judy. In part 1 when the two kids are having sex the portal opens and the entity that kills them imo is Judy. This unleashed Judy into the world or our world as we are dealing with multiple dream words and dimensions. This is why Diane and Cooper have sex so awkwardly because they know it will open the door to Judy's world. Diane almost cannot go through with it that its why she leaves when she becomes Linda and Cooper becomes Richard. This is something they have to do. Jefferies sent Cooper back in time to find and save Laura and tells him this is where he'll find Judy. While showing him an infinity loop, Cooper knows this is where his existence will lead or end up. Cooper manages to save Laura from death but this puts things out of balance (all apart of the fireman's plan I'm sure) and sent her to Judy's world/dimension in Odessa, TX. Is it future or is it past? All we know is what Cooper knows is that he has to find Laura Palmer and bring her home, but who's home? The Fireman told Cooper in the beginning that it is in their house now, Laura's house. The entity of Jowday or a Jowday exists in Sarah Palmer and has been taking over her for years back when she swallowed the frog moth in part 8 as a little girl (if you believe that the little girl in part 8 is Sarah Palmer, I definitely do and did when I first watched it back in 2017.) Laura is the light and Sarah is the dark and they have to defeat Jowday but at what cost? We see Cooper acting less and less like Cooper, this leads me to believe that his shadow self is now aligned with his true self so there is definitely an edge and darkness within Cooper/Richard. We are also on Judy's playground/dimension so we are playing by her/their rules. Cooper/Richard is confused by the plan but all he needs to know is to bring Laura back. But something is different. What year is this? Chaulfonts and Tremonds which are names dating back to the original series and Fire Walk With Me. Because Judy is in the house now and so are her friends the Tremonds and Chaulfonts. Laura is the key to defeating Judy. She is the dreamer where everyone lives inside her dream, but not a literal dream, more like a dream world and I refuse to believe that this is all a normal dream/nightmare or that Twin Peaks knows it's a tv show that is just utter non sense to me, but I digress. Laura hears her name from the house and she screams, her energy, her fear and memories all come back to her as this defeats Judy. The electricity goes out and Dale and Laura become trapped in a world of darkness. A loop that they will now have to exist in. To forever destroy Judy or stuck in the waiting room, I guess we will never know and I love that. I love the ending and with this in mind it becomes clear to me that this story has always been about good vs. evil and the trauma we carry around how it defines and shapes us. That's just the elongated way I look at it all feel free to agree or disagree but the ending to me is bittersweet. Judy is defeated but Cooper and Laura are forever trapped in this traumatic world that they opened the door to. There are consequences for changing the past but it was done so in a noble way even if it never really "saved" Laura. Judy is defeated and the world in Twin Peaks will see that the darkness is gone... Now that's just me but I love the entire journey to Twin Peaks from beginning to end. I love everything being shrouded in mystery especially in the end of it all. I once again would highly recommend The Leftovers and you so should also watch Lost Highway and Inland Empire! Thanks for all that you do, James!

Hanna

As folks been sayin closest tone prolly * The Leftovers plzzz watch! Also highly recommend these!💗 Not all same surreal but unqiue vibes will dig- here master list! * The Curse (Showtime limited series- knocked my socks off satire n offbeat tone, won't see surreal finale coming with trillion trillion guesses Gotta peep! * Dark * Altered Carbon * Dollhouse * Westworld * Sharp Objects * The Outsider * Room 104 * YellowJackets * 12 Monkeys- series * The Strain * Preacher- series ( Same guy wrote both comics The boys & Preacher) Ohh dud * The Young pope series is gorgeous Oh should watch tho more importantly - Parthenope movie. Both made by The GREAT Italian Director Paolo Sorrentino! 💗Watched Parthenope ona edible cpl months ago, & about wept, was gorgeous magical vibe & score. Many didn't get it. A24 flick, you will surely appreciate the filmaking! If haven't seen then MUST also see * Watchmen * Lovecraft Country * Lost * Dark Crystal Age of Resistance great prequel to Dark Crystal movie astonishingly good! 96% puppetry & utterly get lost in the world kick ass voices too! * Atlanta show reminded me of Twin peaks at times. That magical surrealism vibe lol

stinkbagz

Lost was similar in some parts

LoraxPramheda

Yes, Richard and Linda were the names the Fireman shared with Cooper at the beginning. The hotel Diane and Cooper went into is not the same one "Richard and Linda" exited. Seems like something about the route, location, and sex magic shifted reality even beyond him trying to intervene with Laura in the Woods. I think of it as Cooper trying many ways to save her but trauma can't be undone, only worked through.

LoraxPramheda

Also going to recommend Corne Pone Flicks series "Twin Peaks all questions answered" series if you are ever itching to dig into a solid analysis of the show themes.

David Hodges

I would highly recommend checking out The OA, intriguing, ambitious and emotionally complex, also has some similarities to Lynch and Twin Peaks but very much it's own thing

Tension y

I don't think anything really compares to the uniqueness of The Return, but The Leftovers is definitely one you need to do! Fantastic gem.