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Reaction to Angry Comment, Lack of Nuance & War Crimes

An answer to a hostile comment on the the Boxer Uprising (1899-1901) video by Justin and Joe, a PhD Candidate in the Department of History at the University of Calgary. His Thesis concerns Anglo-Japanese military relations during the period of 1894-1905 with a special focus on the Boxer War. Additionally, we cover the general (lack of) nuance, the difficulty of cover war crimes and other sensitive topics on YouTube. You can follow them on twitter: Follow Justin on twitter https://twitter.com/CBI_PTO_History @CBI_PTO_History Follow Joe on twitter https://twitter.com/JoeFonsecaHist @JoeFonsecaHist Follow MHV on twitter https://twitter.com/MilHiVisualized @MilHiVisualized »» SUPPORT MHV «« » patreon, see videos early (adfree) - https://www.patreon.com/join/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis »» MERCHANDISE «« » teespring - https://teespring.com/stores/military-history-visualized » SOURCES « Selected Primary Sources: Brown, Frederick. From Tientsin to Peking with the Allied Forces. London: Charles H. Kelly, 1902. Giles, Lancelot. The Siege of the Peking Legations: A Diary by Lancelot Giles. L. R. Marchant Ed. Nedlands: University of Western Australia Press, 1970. Hooker, Mary. Behind the Scenes in Peking: Being the Experiences During the Siege of the Legations. London: John Murray, Albemarle Street, W. 1910; Internet Archive, 2008. https://archive.org/details/cu31924023151131. Landor, Arnold Henry Savage. China and the Allies. London: W. Heinemann, 1901. MacDonald, Claude A. “The Japanese Detachment During the Defense of the Peking Legations, 1900,” in Transactions and Proceedings of the Japan Society London. Henri L. Joly, Ed. Nendeln: Kraus Reprint, 1971. Martin, William A. P. The Siege in Peking: China Against the World. London: Oliphant Anderson and Ferrier, 1900. Steel, Richard A. Though Peking’s Sewer: Relief of the Boxer Siege, 1900-1901. George W. Carrington Ed. New York: Vantage Press, 1985. Secondary Sources: Bickers, Robert and R.G. Tiedemann, The Boxers, China, and the World. New York: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc., 2007. Cohen, Paul. History in Three Keys: The Boxers as Event, Experience, and Myth. Columbia University Press, 1998. Esherick, Joseph. The Origins of the Boxer Uprising. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1987. Hosoya, Chihiro and Ian Nish Eds. The History of Anglo-Japanese Relations, 1600-2000: Volume II: The Political-Diplomatic Dimension, 1931-2000. Ian Nish and Yoichi Kibata Eds., London: Macmillan Press Ltd., 2000. ———. The History of Anglo-Japanese Relations, 1600-2000: Volume III: The Military Dimension. Ian Gow and Yoichi Hirama Eds., London: Macmillan Press Ltd., 2000. Silbey, David. The Boxer Rebellion and the Great Game in China. New York: Hill and Wang, 2012. Otsuka, Umio. “Coalition Coordination during the Boxer Rebellion: How Twenty-Seven “Councils of Senior Naval Commanders” Contributed to the Conduct of Operations,” Naval War College Review: Vol. 71: No.4. (2018) https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/nwc-review/vol71/iss4/8 #BoxerUprising #BoxerRebellion #BoxerWars

Comments

Hyok Kim

Looks like I had missed the party. I agree about simplistic good guy vs bad guy analogy, but that’s what the tactical crowd like. I also agree about ‘’What about Ism/’’ with qualification. It has to be discussed in proper context, and the consequences resulting from it. But I didn’t expect Boxer thing would arouse so much passion in 2021.

Michael Moran

Justin 👍👍 as always. As I was ill recently, I am just now getting caught back up on my subscription accounts. I always look forward to the videos you appear in. I look forward to hearing more from you on the Pacific War as I just finished reading SEM’s Multi-volume history of WW2 Naval Operations.

Military History Visualized

> But I didn’t expect Boxer thing would arouse so much passion in 2021. This was recorded back in summer 2020. After the initial Boxer videos, Joe and Justin went over most of the question and important comments, they recorded everything and I edited them, then released them over the course of several months.