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Early Access: Death Traps? (OLD VERSION with Errors) (Patreon)

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2022-03-20 15:04:24
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Sherman Death Trap: Veterans vs Historians

Belton Cooper's book Death Traps is quite infamous for it's myriad of errors and other problems. Of course, it is very important to consider the context here, so both the division Cooper served in and also the fact that there was at least one ghostwriter involved. And oh boy there are a lot of errors and some are quite weird as well. I look mainly at technical aspects here and some might consider those errors minor, but they are so consistently wrong and with a pattern that I am not sure if there was not actual sabotage or trolling involved. Cover design by vonKickass. »» GET OUR BOOKS «« » The Assault Platoon of the Grenadier-Company November 1944 (StG 44) - http://sturmzug.com » Army Regulation Medium Panzer Company 1941 - http://www.hdv470-7.com »» SUPPORT MHV «« » patreon, see videos early (adfree) - https://www.patreon.com/join/mhv » subscribe star - https://www.subscribestar.com/mhv » paypal donation - https://paypal.me/mhvis »» MERCHANDISE «« » teespring - https://teespring.com/stores/military-history-visualized » SOURCES « Cooper, Benton Y.: Death Traps: The survival of an American Armored Division in World War II. Ballatine Books: New York, USA, 2003. Thomson, Harry C.; Mayo, Lida: The Ordnance Department: Procurement and Supply. United States Army in World War II. The Technical Services. Center of Military History, United States Army: Washington D.C., USA, 1991. Hunnicutt, Richard Pearce: Sherman: A History of the American Medium Tank. ECHO POINT Books & MEDIA: Brattleboro, Vermont, USA, 2015. Zaloga, Steven: Armored Champion: the top Tanks of World War II. Stackpole Books: Mechanicsburg, PA, USA, 2015. Zaloga, Steven: Armored Thunderbolt: The U.S. Army Sherman in World War II. Stackpole Books: Mechanicsburg, PA, USA, 2008. Zaloga, Steven J.: Panzer IV vs Sherman: France 1944. Osprey Publishing: Oxford, UK, 2015. Spielberger, Walter J./Doyle, Hilary L./Jentz, Tom: Panzer IV und seine Abarten. Motorbuch Verlag: Stuttgart, Germany, 2019. Newsome, Bruce: The Tiger Tank and Allied intelligence. Volume III: Tiger 131: from Africa to Europe. Tank Archives Press: Coronado, CA, USA, 2020. Newsome, Bruce: The Tiger Tank and Allied intelligence. Volume IV: Capabilities and Performance. Tank Archives Press: Coronado, CA, USA, 2020. Military Intelligence Division: Tactical and Technical Trends. War Department: Washington, D.C., USA, 1942-1945. Tank and AFV News: Interview with Steven Zaloga, 27th January 2015: https://tankandafvnews.com/2015/01/27/zaloga_interview/ From the Editor: Debunking Deathtraps Part 1, 29th January 29 2015: https://tankandafvnews.com/2015/01/29/debunking-deathtraps-part-1/ Statistics on M4 Sherman Page on Wikipedia https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/M4_Sherman 28 July 2002 Version of M4 Sherman on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=701247 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wikipedia #DeathTraps,#Sherman,#BeltonCooper

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Scarecrow Repair

One can write it off as human nature to think one's own experiences apply to everyone else regardless of how different the circumstances are, but this is so well known that the ghost writer and publisher bear some responsibility for such poor proof reading. My father had collected hundreds of WW II paperbacks when I was a kid, I read everything I could get my hands on (starting with volume "A" when we got an encyclopedia!) and it didn't take long before seeing the inconsistencies between different accounts, both on the same side and on opposite sides. But while that probably would have applied to all the technical mistakes, the name of the book, "Death Traps", might have stuck anyway, and the Chieftain aka Nick Moran has several times said the Sherman was not a death trap. Maybe the market for WW II books was diminished by 1998, and maybe the technical expertise to catch those mistakes had disappeared from publishers by then.

Military History Visualized
>>80188455

> this is so well known that the ghost writer and publisher bear some > responsibility for such poor proof reading. as mentioned in the video, I am not sure if some of that was maybe even intentional. It is a bit odd particularly Pak 41, KwK 42 instead of Pak 40 and KWk 41 and then M2 instead of M3 gun.

Minion

12:57 Sounds like that's my next Q&A question for that Irish mate of yours 😉

Uncle Joe (Brian)

Ok, to address the elephant in the room... Bernhard, have you considered a different background for each MHNV video? Reason is, you might not notice it, being Australian, sorry, Austrian, but it looks very, very stark, uninviting & somewhat uninspiring. Have you considered making the green screen relevant to the video rather than the odd-looking brown leather suede wall? eg a map, a diagram, a picture - you get the idea. This video is a great example of my point. Best wishes from Canberra, B PS See what Chris thinks of the idea before you dismiss it out of hand, huh?

Military History Visualized
>>81199376

yes, I had a green screen for a while and barely used it, it just created more overhead in editing and everything else. Here is one of those videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRT0PFJg53I Yes, I have considered it, but in the end, everything takes time and I did not use it. The whole point of MHNV was to read and write more and spend less time on "visual" stuff. And in theory it sounds like a great, in practice not so much.