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Chapter 167 (placeholder) (Patreon)

Published:
2023-07-01 02:40:05
Imported:
2026-06

Content

This one is a placeholder for chapter 167. 

It's highly unlikely that I'll have surgery scheduled for this month, so I should finally be able to catch up on these chapters I owe you.

Best wishes,

Tefler

Comments

Silent Count

Hope the surgery gets scheduled as soon as possible.

Old Cruiser

At the least, please give us updates during July!

JP

Does anyone have access to see how many Patrons Tefler has lost since starting the pre-charging?

Emma B

4 in advance..... I think tefler is stretching our patience. He doesn't even have to type in a new status..... Just copy the previous month, make the same promise of catching up and put in another placeholder. I don't believe you now, tefler. Your output over the last 3 months has been at most half a chapter a month. While you have a great storyline and I have been a loyal follower since your first post on SOL and been on patreon with you from the beginning of this journey I'm losing faith in you now. Sorry to see this state, but you have been outright lying to your loyal patrons and just dragging them along. I don't think I can continue this association anymore.

Dallas Bell

Tefler go back to your 9-5, your story is a great read but you are a scam at this point

Michael56Smith

.08: I expected a #167 placeholder to let him pay his monthly bills, ... let him get to feeling well again, and he'll catch up, ... have some faith, ...;-) ttfn

Jedi Khan

Your doctors must have a different definition for "urgent" than most of us. If they were indeed dealing with your situation as "urgent," they'd have you in for surgery within a week or two. But yet you say that your surgery is unlikely to be scheduled this month? Yeah, that's not "urgent," that's "it can wait."

Michael56Smith

.18: Hey Tef! ... please do not forget your fans reading TSM on the 'free' sites, .... latest chapter was #145 on 05/02/23, ... if you could find it in your heart to drop them a couple of freshly released chapters, then the fans would really love it, .... thanks ... ;-) ttfn

Dani Vega

All the negativity aside, I'm glad you're back, Tefler! I don't mind paying you in advance for a promise to deliver. Just like the original idea of a patreon used to be. No pressure during hard times. We're glad to have you back when you're ready to get back. I'll up my subscription for the ones you lost

WWODBD

I unsubbed in Feb, and am now happy to pay for July (with the $1/month limit, just in case) because I believe we're square. I'll unsub before August, assuming there's not another installment before the end of the month. I don't need any explanations, and I don't pass judgement. From here on out, whenever you put out a chapter, I'll happily pay you my dollar, as your Patreon terms clearly spell out. I won't be paying for placeholders or partials. That said, I hope for good things for you in health and life!

Alex H.

Glad that antibiotics worked. While it sucks, that your local doctors don't want to do the OP, at least they are not over convident. I wish you the best and get well soon!

Tyler Derkearmian

So now we're up to placeholders for a complete 164, 165, 166, and 167. God I wish I could put money away that easily. So at Tefs typical pace we now have placeholders through November. Almost seems like he's trying to dig his hole deeper than last year.

Grandizer

I am actually wondering when we will start seeing 5-7K word length chapters. That will make catching up far easier than the "normal" sized chapters in the past.

Paladin

Catch up on chapters owed by the end of the month, sure. Another placeholder, how unique.

Jim lynch

Be careful nobody drowns in all this bs

BrianM

Thanks, Tefler. Now anxiously waiting for the rest of 164 and hopefully more chapters to follow before you have to go for surgery.

J

get well soon tefler, and maybe set yourself deadlines during the month, like each sunday a chapter (since it are 4 chapters). Dont tell us about it, just do it for yourself

Vince

Tefler, this is what I warned you about without a completed chapter 164. Stop slapping and get zapping and the complainers will be attacked by your loyal fans.

Parzival

Tef can you set yourself a hard deadline of the middle of the month to have a chapter out? If you did this it would only take 4 months to catch up. I might be wrong but the way it looks is that you only work 1-2 days at the end of the month to produce something so that you can put another charge out. Surely if you put an expectation that you will have something out mid month and end of month that would help both yourself to produce and keep your loyal supports happy that you’re trying to catch up.

Parzival

You only seem to listen to a few people that tell you only what you want to hear, that it’s ok and we’ll continue to support you. These same people also tell others if they’re not happy, to stop supporting you. If I had people telling my clients that, I’d be pissed! They’ll keep telling you you’re ok right as you drive this right off a cliff. They’re even helping to create the cliff. You’ve pissed off the vast majority of your supporters. I don’t say this to have a crack at you but to try to warn you of the aforementioned cliff. Please please take stock of what you’re doing and fix it and maybe accept some of the offers of help to turn it around before it’s too late. I’d really like to read the end of this story and the sequel and that’s not gonna happen if you lose half your support base and can no longer do it.

Parzival

I run a successful business and could help not only with communication but also with ideas to increase your level of support in a way that people would be happy to pay for. And if you don’t like me that’s fine, please just accept someone’s help to do this. And not one of the yes people because they’re not gonna give you the help you need. Someone who is happy with where it’s at isn’t going to be able to change it for the better. You need someone who’s not actually happy with what you’re doing to help change it and hopefully help change the general perception you’ve created. I’ve read comments where people no longer care about your personal situation and what’s been going on in your life which should tell you how bad it’s gotten. Your average support per Patreon is down over 50%. The alarms should be ringing.

Austin

Hahahahahahahaha

Michael carney

Typo 163 Only then can the superstructure can be safely ejected,”

Anonymous Mouse

I’m actually happy about this, for the first time in months. I got what I suggested: charge us for a half chapter, which is about the size of an old chapter anyway. Happy to pay twice a month for this to happen.

Michael56Smith

.42: A few times a statement has been said that makes little sense to me, .... that Mael'nerak Claimed the Thrall species, the Maliri, here in Shrouded Space, about 72 thousand years ago, ... After he came to this part of the galaxy, .... - Okay, recall that he was already a very powerful Progenitor with over 60 Progenitor Victories under his belt, .... just check out some of the Throne World (on Kythshara) Palace's artwork, ... So, who were his thralls / solders way back then, prior to 72,000 years ago?? -- I suggest that Mael came to Shrouded Space with some 25 to 30 Thrall fleets, maybe more, ... or he sent for a few dozen more later as the war with the Achonin wore on, ... at the war's end there would have been many thousands of his Thalls available to impregnate and start a new Empire with, ... He may also have snuck in a few males too, maybe, ... So, it is my belief that the Maliri have always belonged to Mael'nerak, ... --- I also do not believe that he created the Nymphs, I believe he adapted them from a species that his brother Progenitors had developed eons earlier, and he had a few in his former Empire, and he sent for them, ... he then may have made a number of adjustments like when he made them only breed able by a Progenitor (himself), and he then used them as the perfect spies to help win the war with those pesky Archonin, 72 millennia ago, ... there were some older commands like no hand guns that were leftovers from centuries past, .... And I think that the Achonin were the ones most likely to have created the powerful Astral / Psychic Dampening field later called the Shroud, and those nasty and horrible slavers, the Enshunu, might know where and what it is, now, ... ---- And John should get around to looking into the origins of the Shroud, and keep it going, ... maybe make some more, ... curtail Xar'aziuth's control a little more, ... I would've thought that Mael'nerak might have dug into the origins of the Shroud himself and that knowledge may still be buried in the all the multiple centuries of data at Kythshara, or was it lost in Nexus's memories, .... --- okay, not solders, but soldiers, sheesh, sorry, .... -- and the many references to Mael claiming the Maliri way back 72,000 years ago were written by a fan fiction author in 3 of his TSM alternate stories, ... so sorry Tef, you are officially off the hook, .... ;-) ttfn

Anthony Kester

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Andrei

So this makes it 4. 4 months behind at the rate it’s going. Soon it’ll be 5. Don’t lie to us Tefler, there’s no way you’re catching up anytime soon. For you to catch up and be on schedule by the end of this month, you’d need to release 5 chapters in the next 26 days. A chapter every 5 days when you’ve been releasing one every two months? Come now, we’re not that stupid.

James Lawson

Wow Andrei you are really slow aren't you.

Austin

I'll still support you Tefler, but I've changed my sub from $10 to $1 with a limit of 1 charge a month. This is getting pretty far behind

sunxia

I’ll take that last comment and flip it - @tefler I’m currently at $1 with a 1/mo limit. As soon as you are caught up I’m back to 10 unlimited

Austin

I never said I wouldn't bring my sub back up, once he's caught back up I'll change it back

Muninn

I’m not one to complain and honestly don’t mind the slower pace this year too much, I get it, things happen. I don’t get however why every post from Tef is either “I’ll finish this part post up soon” or “I should be able to catch-up this month” when he never posts before the last day of the month, which means either he’s not posting as soon as they are ready as he claims or doesn’t finish a single chapter until the final day, in which case of course he isn’t going to catch up…

Rayce Royal

Been daydreaming about TSM being a blockbuster movie series akin to the Marvel Universe. I'm trying to picture in my head all the main actors and actresses that would play the main rolls. IMO the two best actors to play John would be Alan Ritchson or Chris Hemsworth. I'm leaning more toward Alan Ritchson here, simply because he doesn't have the Marvel baggage attached to his likeness. Also I'm seeing Charles Harris being played by Tom Selleck, but he might be a bit long in the tooth. Love to hear your thoughts on the girls and my choice of leading man.

Michael56Smith

.52: Okay, ... What about Faye? when is the gang going to be able to get back the Lab on Kythshara and finish the reanimation process (She's Alive!), ... then there is the trip to Trankaran space and the Star Forges (using the wormhole generator, but w/o the nausea), .... and then back to Genthalas, but if the Star Forges can make John a gleaming white Super Dreadnaught from Dana schematics, in record time, ... well that changes a few things, ,,, but back in the Protectorate, aside from all those Matiarrchs in need of more cum from Baen'thelas, there are a very many other lovely Maliri, on many worlds. in desperate need of a Nymph's Kiss; a few months to make a million, or so, Maliri wards, 10 million plus in a year, ...I do hope Edraele can handle it, ... ;-) ttfn

Newnotsure

Just some info here for those that loved reading Star Fleet Carl on his info blog it said he passed away June 29 2023 RIP SFCarl his story is not complete hopefully the family will post all of the completed chapters.

Anthony Kester

Are you looking for a 3SM Discord Server for serious people run by a lunatic? Have we got the server for you!!! Come on down to "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum" and post your thoughts on the epic. https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

Parzival

And here we are again. No more words added, no more updates. Seriously dude why do you piss all over the people that support you? I want to support you but you’re making it pretty difficult when you treat us with such contempt. You have a loyal fan base that would continue to support you into the sequel and side stories but not if you keep treating them like this. You might keep people while we’re enjoying this story but at this point most are gonna cut and run the second it’s done…

William Wallace

I'll still support you Tefler, but I've changed my sub from $10 to $1 and placeholders are to be not considered as a chapter, no chapter no payout!

Michael56Smith

.70: *** Psychic abilities that John has gifted on the girls: Alyssa (Matriarch) powerful telepathy and very powerful telekinesis, she has also learned to teleport, and she has these powerful eldritch blasts that use up lots of power; Calara - (Strategist and Tactician) able to sense multiple possible futures and navigate towards the best options; Dana - (GEO) can sense materials and repair damage to gear, and create extremely powerful gravity wells (little black holes); Dr Rachel Voss - (MD) psychic healer, makes extremely strong shields too; Sakura (Bad Ass) cryokinesis, aerokinesis, Alacrity (speed), and has great skill with ninjato swords, and lately she shares her body and soul with John, to be rather unbeatable: the Maliri Twins - electrokinesis, and pyrokinesis, ... plus both are able to journey into the Astral; Jade - (Nymph) a natural shapeshifter, Now can alter her mass/size to a great degree; Jehanna - (ex-TFN lead reporter) has gained the Dark powers exhibited by John's guide, dark tentacles, shields, Javelins, and illusions; Helene - (Mermaid) besides her Aquatic talents, she gained Psychic Empathic projection, ... I would like to see her gain additional powers like Sakura has, Perhaps control of the water element rune, but most predominately I want her to get the Sound rune -- Offensive (Sonic blasts/waves) and Defensive (shields), Cuz sound can travel extremely well through water; ... and then there is Athena (the good Guide) she has the Light powers, and she has also mastered the short-range teleport ability that ole Larn'kelnar used, and she will teach to others: And all of Jade's Nymph sisters have abilities like she has: ... I hope I didn't miss anyone, like Luna with psychic alacrity and that Shared-Soul thing, but with Edraele, (TK and Telepath, and Astral) .... and there'll be others added in the future, with mix and match psychic powers, some new abilities and overlaps as well, ... much fun times ahead, ... ;-) TTFN

Michael56Smith

.75: Hey Rachel! (shh, really just Tef), .... after all that you've now learned from Mael's notes, .... do you think that you'd be able make a synthetic psychic cum / elixir to greatly aid with the recruitment of new psychic wards? needed for all the new wards in absorbed empires, (i.e. the Laranthyrans), ... this elixir would be specifically keyed to John's psychic network, ... Or perhaps you would need a helpful purple pixie AI to aid your research?... -- Alyssa could sell tons of it by the pint at her Trade Station, .... Just imagine, being able to sell youth and health in a bottle, ... a fortune to be made for those needy orphaned kids, ... ;-) ttfn

AzureReader

Tef - you’ve been on 1/2 chapter a month pace all year. But to avoid falling behind further you’ve got to ramp up to delivering the 95% of Ch. 164 that’s left. Going from 50% of one chapter to 95% is a big jump in productivity. When you’re in fighting form you can do that but surgery ahead of you suggests you are not. So forget about catching up. Just try to deliver 164. Statistically you would be expected to only deliver half of Ch 164 this month, promise to deliver the rest by end of August, precharging for 168, not delivering anything in August if you have surgery and precharging for 169, and finally delivering the second half of 164 on September 30th when you precharge for 170. Delivering all of 164 this month will require a herculean effort in your condition and I will be among those that recognize that awesome effort. Hope you’re feeling better!

AzureReader

Back in chapter 158 when Alyssa found the issue with the wormhole generator she said it would only take a few minutes for Dana to fix the schematics and it would only take making a few new parts. John also said he wanted it fixed “ASAP”. It’s now six chapters later. Did they decide they like nausea?

Newnotsure

AzurReader I really hate to say if he follows what you just suggested I really will stop following him he needs to get stuff done, he says he has been sick, he needs time yes but if continues to NOT talk to his fans he will lose more of them

Jim lynch

Any chance of getting one of these 4 placeholders/ stolen money this month as promised AGAIN ?.

Resonant_Vibe

Tef must fulfill his obligations; his placeholders are un-approved promissory notes. Patrons were taken from without permission. Some will stay, for loyalty. Some will stay, for sunk-cost fallacy. Some patrons will lower per-post subscription amount. I did. Tef should worry about (% of loyal patrons VS. % of sunk-cost patrons ).

Michael56Smith

.84: Here, I toss a few handfuls of Purina Troll Chow out to you few adolescent types, ... 1) this is Tef's story, sink or swim, ... 2) in the 7 1/2 years he has been writing this complex tale, it is not unusual for there to have been a few family problems and illnesses, ... 3) what is your belly aching going to do, anything? (If you think you are helping, you might be dreaming) 4) historically, he does routinely surface at month's end, so let's wait a bit, okay? 5)... this middle of the month noise is rather annoying, please stop, ... -- ;-) ttfn

DigitalDreamer

Dude -- totally get it. I just quit feeding the trolls.

Keepit simple

Rereading Ben Shepherd series by BurntRedstone while I wait for more from Tef. I don't expect anything from Tef before midnight last day of month and don't expect him to catch up. So no rage from me....just want Faye back!!!!

Tom Ray

that's it. I am reporting this place holder shit and am out...

Parzival

You guys don’t seem to get it. It’s great that you’re happy and supportive but ripping people that have had enough is doing Tef a massive disservice. A LOT of his support base is unhappy (with good reason) and every time you are happily farewelling people, he loses money. You’re standing on the deck of a sinking ship encouraging people to stop helping and bail and what? If the ship sinks you’re gonna be happy and say I was loyal and went down with it? It’s not about the money, it’s never been about the money. I don’t think anyway here is bemoaning a couple of bucks. It’s the principle. People don’t like having no choice in being pre charged and then not only not get it, but get no updates. Time after time after time after time. Tefs word has become worthless. Most people want to keep supporting him but can’t seem to get his attention that they’re not happy with what he’s done. The fact he has ANY supporters left shows what a great story he’s written and I think everyone wants to see its conclusion. And nobody is going to get that if he loses so much fan base he can’t support himself this way anymore.

Parzival

Even the fact he allows all the vitriol in here to continue is just lazy. How hard is it to do a poll and say are you ok with the precharges? A) I’m not phased just want the story B) It’s not great but do what you gotta do C) I’m really unhappy and about to leave. At least get an idea of where your loyal supporters who’ve stuck with you through more than a year of this are at.

Keepit simple

I hear you Par. I don't like being constantly told that Tef hopes to catch up each month. We all enjoy the world that Tef created. I have suggested Tef get help to keep chapters coming. Tef made the decision to consider writing as a profession. Like any job, you need to do the work to get paid...normally. Agree that he should not precharge.

Rayce Royal

I am really not trying to be a Yes Man. I sincerely want Tef to succeed in this writing endeavor he's got going here. You both (Par and Keepit) are making excellent points. I am just trying to be as supportive as possible to someone who has gone thru some tough shit this year. Yes, we all go thru some rough times. IDK, maybe I've got it all wrong and Tef really doesn't care what any of us think or say. Not even sure he reads any of our comments. I'm just heavily invested in this universe and cannot imagine it not having a future. Call me an eternal optimist, I guess. Kinda like an addict awaiting his next fix, hoping it's as good as last time.

Tom Ray

Before Tefler turned off the amount of money he is making per chapter, It was around $8,500.00. So 4 place holders is around $34,000.00. THIS IS MY POINT!!!!!!!!! He made at least 34k for 4 non chapters. STOP the PLACE HOLDERS and post the chapters, catch up before taking more money. I can care less about 8 dollars he has charged me........ It is the accumulation of all the money has received without producing what he owes everyone.

William Wallace

I am sure he does not read these comments well I had enough I wil request a refund from the admins since Tef is not producing but getting payouts,for a few lines of exuses!!

Michael56Smith

.110: ... I WILL NOT FEED THE TROLLS, ... I will NOT feed the Trolls, ... I will NOT feed the Trolls, .... no Purina Troll Chow for you! ... no matter how much they really are begging for it, ... ;-) ttfn

Anthony Kester

MEN!!! Admiral Kester here. I am looking for volunteers to join an elite group. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to go to the new Discord Server, "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum" and have fun discussing everything 3SM. DISMISSED!!! https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM Also, leave "RAMMING SPEED" to me.

PLRus--Founding member of the TSM F5 club.

Ladies and Gentlemen of TSM's fanbase: You may not realize there is a fanfiction by a lady named Recurve33 that is fleshing out the minor empires. It is an extensive work, now spanning 33 chapters and growing. She works closely with Tefler and would like to share her story with all of you. There is a website where she is having her work posted and the URL is: https://www.pchotshots.com/bmettee/TSM/recurve33/index.html She loves feedback and you can easily give that by joining the original discord TSM discussion board at https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord and go to the fanfiction channel. Love to see you there. We have a very civil discussion board with thousands of members on the original Discord server for TSM. Read her stories, come check us out, and give Recurve some feedback. Have a great week!

Who Me

The Tefler TSM Discord is an absolutely wonderful place to discuss the story, delve into the underlying currents, and just associate with other TSM fans. Well worth the cost to join! (Psst - It's FREE!)

Michael56Smith

.118: It is the 19th of July, and according to some earlier status updates, .... Tef might finally be ready for his Gall bladder removal surgery late this month or possibly early next month at a bigger / better hospital, .... So, I am guessing that we might be close to a cut off time, similar to Tef's EOM deadlines, and we might just see a few new words, maybe even a whole chapter #164, ... wouldn't that be nice? Fingers are crossed for Tef's good health, .... -- ... and to have him once again slaving away on TSM installments very soon (I know, that's my self-interest speaking for me, but what can I say, .... I want to see Gahl'kalgor get his Progenitor ass royally stomped on, .... and to see what else those Maliri Males might have up their cloaked sleeves, .... a superpowered-up Nova Lance maybe? That can blow Thrall shields away, ... wouldn't that be nice? And I really want the very next part in chapter #164 to be when the Thrall fleets are all confused by the incredibly great firepower from the invisible weapons platform, plus the Invictus, plus the Maliri Males cloaked battleships, .... oh, those thrall fleets are so toast! -- And I do hope that the arrogant Asshat Kal, does a wormhole jump to the remains of Genwynn station to see what's up, .... and gets some of his immortal tail feathers singed, "run away, Kal, run away," ... Cause those Naughty Nymphs manning the guns are quite ferocious, ... maybe we should start to call him Gahl'bladdor, the no good, ... ;-) TTFN

Rayce Royal

Twenty days of July have come and gone, yet we are still patiently waiting for the rest of Chapter 164. Come on Tef ol buddy, we know you have a couple of chapters in ya this month :)

Jonathan Fowler

My wife went through a similar experience to Tefler. She had an operation and acquired an infection which had to be cleared up. Instead of being in hospital for a few days, she was there for three months. Her convalescence took almost two years before she was functioning at a pre-operation level. During this time, there were periods when she was extremely tirred and washed out, and everything became a big chore. I am not suggesting that the cases are identical, nor am I seeking pity for her situation. We were lucky: we did not have the death of a father to deal with as well. Rather, I repectfully suggest that those who balk over a few dollars a month put themselves in Tefler's shoes. He has not disclosed his full medical history nor what else is ging on in his life, nor should he. People should be patient and understanding. I am confident that the episodes will continue, and that he will catch up eventually. Until then, I wish him a speedy and complete recovery. I am confident that Tefler will continue to churn out chapters when he is able to do. Until then, I urge people to stop being impatient and lacking in understanding.

Dominic Janning

I've been re-reading. Got to say Dana is my favorite!

Michael56Smith

.129: the Grand Engineering Overlord is totally AWESOME!!! If not for all of the gear that Sparks has built for them, and all the ship upgrades, they would still be barely able to fight off pirates, ... and she's a very sexy red head, ... yummy!! ;-) ttfn

Dominic Janning

The only thing I'm not a big fan of. Is it never anyone fault when one of the girls or John dose something. It is there fault. It doesn't mean they got to get all piss off but it be nice to see someone get mad and stay mad for a bit.

Rayce Royal

Ok, I'm not sure I remember who suggested reading about Jack's adventures from BurntRedstone, but call me officially hooked. AMAZING!!

MVFast

Tefler, how many chapters are you planning? I could see you doubling what you’ve written. To end the progenitors, twenty to fifty isn’t unreasonable. If you’re tired of it, you could end it in ten. I’ll come out and ask. Do you have an outline of how you’re getting from here to the end, or are you creating it as you go?

Rev. Thwack

For all the apologists who keep trying to say it's "just a hard time"... August 2021 was the last month that ended with Tefler caught up. Ever since then, he's been living in pre-charge land. That's 22 solid months of the exact same excuse... things took longer than expected, the story is complex, I'll get caught up this month... and 22 solid months of that being a bunch of bullshit. Sep '21 - Jul '22, Tefler was typically half a chapter to a full chapter behind. Aug '22 - Mar '23, Tefler was typically two chapters behind. Tefler has been at least three chapters behind for the last three months. This isn't improving, this is a steady patter of Tefler slowly taking more and more advantage of community good will. This isn't getting fixed any time soon. There's only been once in the last twelve months where Tefler produced two or more chapters. This isn't an attack on the story, this isn't hopes that Tefler fails. This is me shining a light on the actual recorded history of how the last three years have been going, which anyone supporter can see for themselves simply by looking at posts by month. This is me trying to raise a warning sign to Tefler. He has got to fix this. If he thinks this isn't having a negative impact on the financial support he receives, he just needs to look at earnings over the last few years, which have been trending down. This is me telling the apologists that they need to stop just trying to dismiss everyone's concerns. All that does is drive people away faster. It does not help Tefler in any way to see people like Michael56Smith. If he mistakenly believes blind loyalty and support is going to stay while he continues to get further and further behind, then there will be the reckoning of Tefler burning out all remaining good will in the community, and Tefler no longer being able to financially support himself through his writings. I want this story to continue, but this trend is the largest threat to its continued existence.

Dean Lee

Tefler focus on your health drink lots of filtered water

Sean Miller

To the apologists that keep telling patrons to leave, you are Tefler's worst enemies. Quit driving away his support. Teflor does need to get it in gear. I know I've reduced my monthly support. Is that what we want? For Teflor to lose his support so the few remaining can say, "I always stuck with you, bud." To put it another way, do you want to be that friend that drove all his other friends away, just to monopolize his time? Sounds pretty sick to me.

Dominic Janning

Well waiting for more chapters. I'm looking for something else to read. I really like space story's. Like someone finding a ship or gets one and upgrade and advantage. Any ideas of one's I might like??

Keepit simple

Did 64 ppl really "like" vote a placeholder post?

William Wallace

Wait 5 more day's and hey ho there is chapter 164 full and placeholder for ch.168

Michael56Smith

.169: I would still be surprised to find out that Kamella Harris could even possibly have read Three Square Meals, ... I don't think her mind is capable of the stretch, .... -- and if her staff read TSM for her, and left her some notes, then she'd still manage to mess that up too, .... --- she might send off a nonsense comment complaining about not having gotten the next chapter, yesterday, .... ---- A fair amount of troll food scattered across this comment, ... bad mikey, ... ;-l ttfn

Greg Hill

Damn, you really go out of your way to deflect don't you...VP Kamala Harris, really!!!...but if you're a maga then I can understand why you wouldn't have a problem with what some would consider fraud...btw, did you set up this site originally?

Newnotsure

Where the F**k did that come from Michael 56 Smith I think you could drive people away from this site alone. Just my opinion

Newnotsure

I really think Tefler needs to take care of his self for sure what some don’t like is the pre- charging you don’t work you don’t get paid I will be off work for three months coming up for a knee replacement not going to get paid but I do have insurance to cover that Tefler needs to see if he can get insurance for that maybe he can maybe not but ……. Yes he needs to get better but others say don’t charge if you don’t work that’s all

Newnotsure

Waiting on m56s to reply on this one I have big shoulders for sure

Jedi Khan

Alright, with the end of the month fast approaching and no word from Tefler, I'm going to go ahead and advise everyone here to expect more of what has been going on for awhile: a maybe finished chapter and another pre-charge. Because really, why expect anything different at this point? Now for the other part of this advisory notice: if you don't want to be pre-charged again, go ahead and cancel your subscription now before the end of the month deadline for Patreon billing. You won't be charged for this month if you do. Come back after the new year, maybe Tefler will have caught up with the chapters he's already charged for by then. Or, if you're really lucky, he'll have snapped the death spiral he's in and have actually gotten back on schedule, getting ahead of what we've already paid for. If that turns out to be the case, if you return after the new year, you'll have access to chapters you hadn't paid for, making them free. That's it for my advisory notice. Carry on.

michael camenzuli

Yea right I cancelled my subscription and still got charged

Bobdaniels

Taking bets on the Tefs most likely move in 24 hours (/s) -Releases 4 chapters and catches up completely with no more placeholders: +30,000 -Releases a partial or rest of chapter with an explanation for why xyz slowed him down this month: -600 Side bets for reasons for writing delay: -Wife/son/he had some medical complication that completely derails him for four weeks: +150 -His dog ate his homework: +450 -Aliens abducted him for 3 1/2 weeks: +650 -Saying that it’s difficult to wrap up the 160+ chapter story and X million word story so he experiences writers block sometimes (which I would completely understand and wish he would say): +400,000

Michael56Smith

.192: -- many decades ago, in a land not too far away, a Canadian radio announcer routinely ended his show with "Ta ta for Now", and ultimately that remark made its way into a Winnie the Pooh story, (the story's Author was Canadian also - surprise!), ... with Tigger belting out a happy 'TTFN!' and now you know, ... ;-) ttfn

Steven

Open note to Tefler, cheerleaders & critics I think Tefler needs encouragement but of a different type than he has been getting, and maybe a perspective shift. He’s created this story, world, universe(s) that many readers are extremely passionate about & willing to pay for, me included. I enjoy this story. Heck, I love this story; I don't want it to ever end. Readers are passionate enough to argue/debate about every aspect of it, the worlds and peoples and possibilities.. including the technology - which doesn’t exist, and will never exist, (unfortunately). Yes, he’s having a tough year but I think it’s more than that. I feel/think he has slipped into the negative side or aspect of writing this story. Maybe it’s more than that, even burn out? He’s struggling and failing to achieve his own deadlines. He’s putting in time, but it seems like not until he has to, and just enough to keep some income coming in. It seems like he’s slipped into the “it’s become a job” mentality, and focusing on the pressure, and monetary aspect – and tedious nature of deadlines, but you will have that with every job. Before I get attacked, I’m a huge and ongoing fan and because TSM is a GOLD MINE. He doesn’t have to go in and answer to a boss, where your desk is always piled with more shit on it every day, and management's unreal expectations. He would still have some people yelling at him (like the trolls now), so he would not be getting away from it, even if he quits altogether, heaven forbid. In this goldmine the mountain is not at risk of falling in on him, he’s not getting gritty and he’s not even having to commute or use public transportation in a daily rut to get back and forth to a soulless drudge job. He can do his writing from wherever his homebase is, or where he draws inspiration from. He can better control his schedule and free up time for family as required. Writing is not easy but he alone knows this story intimately, and he could ride/write this for easily another decade. The fact that he has already written in excess of 4.1 million words and people are clamoring for more – he doesn’t have to figure out a new (hopefully successful) product, he doesn’t have to go out and drum up sales. People are already interested in it, passionate – people already want this, and they are coming to him to get it. This is the very definition of a goldmine! In this goldmine there are new veins to explore, puzzles to solve, foes to defeat. Old friends to revisit, new tech to create or enhance. Lost family to find. Races to save. Wrongs to right. Hungry “Babes” to feed. Babies to make. Kyth'vindathys powers to explore. AND the resurrection of Faye. Almost an unlimited amount of gold in this mine, for sure! My intention here is to encourage a shift to a positive perspective. And he has to want it. He needs to get excited again. He needs to start rethinking this, and shift it back to seeing it in a positive perspective. Why? Because TSM really is a GOLD MINE and NO ONE ELSE can write and share this story other than you Tefler! There is gold in every aspect of the TSM story and you alone are intimately familiar with every part of this universe that you have created. And just as a tangent comment, I think it’s foolish from a successful business model perspective, to end this story and start it again19 years down the road. In my uneducated opinion doing something separate is fine, or prequel, or a companion piece is okay, but don’t abandon us here and now. If you do, you're leaving a proven gold mine on the table in hopes of having lightning strike twice. (totally a mixed metaphor but I don't care). You are the miner. Every morning you can wake up and say to yourself, “let’s go mine some gold today!” Best wishes & Good luck! I’m pulling for your success!

BrianM

Well said, Steven. I am happy to continue my support of Tefler and beg that he follows up by mining the next vein of gold, and the next, ....... and the next as he adds chapter after chapter to this great space saga.

TF007

24 hours to go

Evan

I'm looking forward to chapter 164 being finished along with chapters 165 through 167. We'll see what happens over the next 24 hours. I'm not expecting anything past 164, to be honest, along with a placeholder for 168. On the other hand, if Tefler is feeling better, he might be working on a larger set of chapters than I think, trying to coordinate the complete set of events with this particular Progenitor before releasing it all at once. I'd be thrilled to be surprised in this fashion. Either way, something to look forward to. I just hope that Tefler has had a better month and that his health has improved.

Michael56Smith

.203: ... from his earlier update, it might well still be before his operation takes place, ... but if all of his infection has cleared up, he should be feeling better, and with any luck at all for us, ... writing more TSM, .... fingers crossed, ... before the actual operation distracts him for a while, ... I think that if he'd been scheduled for his Gall bladder surgery earlier this month, he might well have sent us an update, .... so, no update, no surgery, as yet ... -- the latest Tefler update: "It's highly unlikely that I'll have surgery scheduled for this month, so I should finally be able to catch up on these chapters I owe you." -- I am hopeful he has been able to do lots of writing, ... but like most of you, on the evening of EOM I am only hoping for a completed chapter #164, and I am expecting another placeholder (#168), .... we shall see how the day finishes up, ... ;-) ttfn

The Professor

It's a DOLLAR, a DOLLAR sprinkled in with a little drama. I can live with getting charged for a tease or whatever. I have more important things to concern myself with in life than to rant over the dollar or two he is charging. IF you enjoy the story, pay it and enjoy the stories as they come. What else can you actually buy today for a dollar or two?

The Professor

BTW, I had gallbladder surgery this year and it can be debilitating for a while and mess with your head. Again, it's only a dollar. I look forward to the next chapter when it lands.

articulus48

Thank you The Professor! I an at $2 a month and if I can't do two bucks I should go back to Lit. After reading TSM more than once I have come to the realization of just how complicated this story is. Its like a tree, it started out with one sprout and is now a giant oak. Just making sure all the threads of the story follow must require an incredible out line and attention to detail. I don't think anyone is capable now of just sitting down and banging out a new chapter. So to the trolls just bale and leave the comments to the people who appreciate the story. Wishing Tefler all the best and please keep writing!

TF007

2 hours to go

Evan

Less than 6 hours to go, hopefully…

TF007

1 hour or less

Evan

The Patreon cutoff is at midnight PT. Tefler might surprise us again…

Steven

wrong place

Michael56Smith

.220: ...and when is Dana going to have time to build them all Hoverbikes, a few of Dana's special "Lioness 9000's", those extremely over engineered machines for John's lovely biker gang, all wearing one of Alyssa's white leather Biker Jackets, .... just wait for the next Progenitor to show up, ... and then his Thralls will all be completely fascinated and relatively astonished, as well as no longer very menacing, panting with hoverbike longing, ... Those enemy Thralls are likely to strongly question their Progenitor's orders, ... the next Asshat's crew might just revolt, ... va-room, va-room, .... -- maybe John can win them over with a hoverbike or two? ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.222: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... --- upgrade the mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- remember to brush her teeth, ... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... ---- Oh yeah, and there is also the project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John and also the physical device of Larn'kelnar's as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, but they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not the evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura? Tashana? Edraele, Dana and Rachel, and maybe Helene? ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.224: oh wow, ... a Cyber-Faye Matriarch for AI's, ... that would be Awesome, ... but first Faye and Irillith will need to restore a big chunk of Mael's computer and AI lore, so that they can 'create' more 'neato' AIs, both the Nexus model and the perky purple holo-pixie version, ... --- and Faye will be so very proud of her cyber-daughter, Daphne, .... --- So Perhaps they'll build a few more (really cute) AIs based on the 'Little One' model? .... they would be like Daphne's sisters and cousins, calling Faye their Auntie, ... --- thus, we have the beginnings of Faye's wide-spread digital family, ... Lots of useful AI's, ... ;-) ttfn

Megan Donahue

Anybody else concerned that we've heard nothing since August?