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UrfrndHusker

I really liked this episode but, im feeling like WTF STOLAS STOP TOYING WITH BLITZØ AND ACTUALLY PUT FORTH EFFORT, but other than that I understand its difficult rn for the both of them

Max

Im sure Stolas will chose Blitz, its just a dinner after all

Sarah H

Copying and tweaking my comment from Morgan's reaction; I'm disappointed in Stolas this episode. The previous one made it sound like they'd be more civil and spend time together with the intention of dating, but he just leaves Blitz behind to chase an old crush. He even deleted his hookup app before going with Vassago; that's just a slap in the face to Blitz and anything they could have together. The hookups didn't mean anything, but Vassago is a different story. Blitz handled it well by being mature and not starting a fight, but you know he's going to have a complex about it. Vassago is a prince with status and money, and Blitz is going to see it as Stolas being better off with him than "slumming it" with an imp. It's going to be devastating. They're both still growing, but Blitz is the only one growing for Stolas and their relationship. Stolas is growing for himself, which he needs, but so far it's one-sided. Blitz is always the one chasing and fighting for him, and that needs to change. Even when Stolas wanted to confess before, he still summoned Blitz under the guise of their arrangement. If he decides he wants Blitz and not Vassago, he needs to be the one to reach out this time.

Phoenix_mercury

1. Stolas is allowed to get dinner with an old friend and classmate, it's been who knows how long and then wanting to catch up is understandable, dinner isn't automatically a date. Also notice how when stolas says "I'm ready" after deleting the app he's not looking at Vas but off into the distance. 2. As I said on Morgan's video, long-er term I'd actually love if Hb went a poly route with Vas, stolas and blitzø ngl, obviously there'd need to be work between Stolas and blitzø to be in a better place as well as interactions between Vas and blitzø and both blitzø and stolas doing work on themselves but I'd lost my shit if we actually got(positive) poly rep ngl

Phoenix_mercury

Exactly, literally just dinner to catch up with an old friend and classmate after who knows how long

Phoenix_mercury

How is Stolas toying with blitzø by getting dinner with an old friend and classmate?(Just like stolas and blitzø, vas and stolas aren't exes) It's been who knows how long, it's not surprising they'd want to catch up. /Gen

UrfrndHusker

Its been 20 years since Vasago and Stolas last talked and yes it is a weird situation and yes stolas doesn't owe Blitzø anything but he just faced huge humiliation in front of a whole party of Goetia and some imps when he did all the hard work trying to get the locket for Stolas then for him to say "Ill be home later, thx for everything" then didn't even give them time to actually celebrate the win

Blitzynatural

I think the ending might just be a red herring. Stolas only smiles right after reading the text from Blitzø. His "I'm ready" wasn't directed at Vassago. Notice how he reacted when Vassago mentioned "no duties". I think this is about Via. His dinner with Vassago will be him reconnecting as friends, and Vassago will be his link to help mend his relationship to Via, and I think that's gonna be his entire focus the rest of the season. To not let his feelings get in the way of that. I absolutely love Vassago and I loved their teenage romance, but at the end of the day, I think that's all it was. Stolas is not the same person, and, after all, Blitzø was the one who taught him that he could choose. Blitzø is the one he can be fully himself with. He's not a rom-com figure, but represents the reality of a humble life that he is learning to live, while Vassago offers an escape with luxury attached to it. I have so much faith in our lizard and his owl 🥹

XD Poisonwolf

I love Vassago and Stolas but i also love Blitz and Stolas. I feel bad on both sides but it made me emotional for Vassago he said its been 20 years and so hes waited 20 years for Stolas 😭🥹

Stephanie Vazquez

Stolas and Blitzø are gonna end up together regardless, we know this, but I get the slowburn frustration. Look at it this way, Vassago was the one who introduced Stolas to the feeling of freedom but he chose duty over love. Vassago was his reality at that time and Blitzø was the fantasy. He felt that he couldn’t reach the fantasy he wanted and Vassago showed him how but he wasn’t ready. After everything he went through with Stella, he lived that fantasy with Blitzø to cope. Now after losing everything, witnessing how far both Vassago and Blitzø are willing to go for him, Vassago made him realized he can make his fantasy with Blitzø a reality. As bad as it sounds, Vassago showed him from a royal Goetia’s POV it was possible because that was familiar to him. Blitzø couldn’t show him that because Stolas is not familiar with it from an imps POV so he doesn’t understand which is where the feelings of guilt come from.

Tgriff02

I think something a lot of people haven't considered with Stolas is that because everything in his life was planned and laid out by his father and the older Ars Goetia, he never got the chance to experience much of anything in terms of navigating social relationships. He's now experiencing EVERYTHING for the first time. Not only does he not really understand the rules, he doesn't know how anything feels until he experiences it. Consider how many grown, well adjusted adults would struggle with the feelings they'd have if an old flame suddenly came back i to their lives wanting to pusue something that wasn't possible in their previous interactions. Now consider what it would be like for someone with the social experience of what amounts to a 15 year old kid. I don't agree with Stolas's actions, he is wrong, but they are also very realistic and SHOULD be understandable. Stolas has to do all the learning and make all the mistakes that most folks went through in middle and junior high school. It's gonna be rough, and it's gonna suck for everyone involved. But the alternative is for him to remain emotionally and empathetically stunted. And Blitzø's feelings and reactiins are just as valid and warrwnted. In a real world situation, it would be totally fair of him to decide he doesn't want (or it isn't healthy) for him to hang around while Stolas learns to be a socially and emotionally functional adult. And I would support that decision in full. But it wouldn't change the fact that Stolas is still going to have to navigate these experiences in order to grow. And everyone is entitled to fuck up.

Max

Exactly! Stolas didn't even hold his hand back or anything. Besides Vassago deserves at least a dinner after everything, it would be kinda cruel to say no to that

jessie H

I think vasago could be Stolas’s first healthy relationship. As much as I love Stolas and Blitz, they aren’t healthy, and they did agree to just be friends last episode. Stolas should have taken Vasago’s offer some other time though. Time and place, and that want it. But it could be healthy, and maybe Blitz will find someone he likes

TonezTunes

Stolas... get YOU'RE shit together! Poor blitz. I really like Vassago too but Stolas is probably gonna hurt him too

Elijah

I think stolas is just catching up with an old friend i don't think they'll get together also vassago carried this whole operation he stopped stolas from being kicked out, he got the necklace, and he covered for blitz

Tyler Terwilliger

I know we want stolas and blitz together however I truly wouldn’t mind vassago and stolas (not because I really really like vassago as a character) because I want to see as mentioned in the reaction stolas grow and finally cherish love and not feel automatically obligated and guilty for wanting. The good precious boy deserves the world!

og.monstr

I get Elijah's frustration. Not that I dislike Stolas, but this back-and-forth part of his character development feels to me like he's going in circles. It's only going to hurt Blitz, which in turn might strain his relationship with Loona, and everybody else. After two-and-a-half seasons of "will they, won't they?", I just want the story to get on with it. If the rumour is true, the second part of S3 is going to focus more on Octavia, and I feel like we could all use more of her and her perspective.

milo

I know you don't like Stella and a lot of people don't, but I honestly feel bad for her. Yes she's not a good person, but her only purpose was to birth a child, and that's it. She didn't get any education (especially sad seeing her sitting in the audience when Stolas and Vassago graduated) which is why she can't read properly and is bad with numbers. She was just a child as well and she got pregnant at such a young age with a gay man who has been unfaithful countless of times. And like, I think we can all agree that Stella is an abuser, no questions asked, but a character doesn't have to be 100% bad or 100% good. Stella's story is also tragic. She never wanted any of this, and though I hate the way she handles her negative emotions and how she abuses Stolas, I just can't bring myself to hate her.

Jin

I get the feeling that Stolas, while perhaps flustered by Vassago, isn't interested in him romantically. The way he reacts when Vassago mentions that Stolas has no duties, which in reality, he does - he's still a father, and I think Stolas is going to focus on Octavia.

Erick Ruiz

Okay, at the end of season 2, it did not end on a good note! Blitz hugged Stolas, yes, but Stolas didn’t return it. He’s still thinking about Octavia. Also, before the whole book thing, Stolas only knew Blitz for a day. He knew Vassago for maybe a year.

Caitlin Conway

Hmmm.... I do agree with you they're just going out to dinner and Stolas probably just wants to say thank you. BUT!!! It IS toying with BOTH Blitzø AND Vasago!!! Because we all know Vasago doesnt JUST wanna go to dinner and catch up. Vasago wants to date and BE with Stolas romantically!!! And Blitzø also wants to be with Stolas romantically and is PATIENTLY waiting. He said so in the last episode, "even if we cant be together right now, I'm willing to give it a shot." So.... its a little bit of a shit move on Stolas's part to NOT be upfront with both of them. Unless he wants Vasago then its a different story. But its only dinner for STOLAS! This is NOT just a casual, "lets catch up!" For Vasago. He made that EXTREMELY clear MANY TIMES already. And although I DO agree with you I dont like how you phrased your comment because it triggered me and brought back BAD memories of an ex I had that said something similar to me. And guess what? It was the SAME SHIT! yeah for my ex it was just meeting up and I dont blame my ex BUT I do blame them for being dense because I knew and he GIRL who he went to see knew, it was NOT just dinner. She wanted to get back together..... like..... things can be innocent yes absolutely im not arguing that it isnt! Or that partners are not allowed to have friends. Thats not the argument here. The ARGUMENT is that we all know Vasago doesnt want to JUST be friends and THATS WHY its a problem. I dont like the phrasing of "Oh its not toying them them its just an old friend!" BS!!! ITS NOT! And dont gas light me into thinking the kissing, the romantic dancing, the super romantic Spanish song, the taking off the shirt and looking sexy, and all the blushing and glances WAS JUST an old classmate............. 😑

Caitlin Conway

Again, you dont kiss and dance romantically with JUST an old friend and classmate. It might be that way in Stolas's eyes but it definitely is not that way to Vasago

Cameron

Yeah but they’re not old friends, their old flames, which is a lot more context than just friends going to dinner. They’ve kissed and planned to run away together, and even still, vassago says “I love your smile” and says to stolas “ did you get that?” Stolas obviously gets flustered and says “yes I did, with a coy smile, that’s textbook flirting. They were flirting to each other and so stolas accepting dinner is kinda eh

Caitlin Conway

ahhhh now I know why I'm so triggered. Okay so I just want to point out that if we never get a character who is allergic to peanuts in the show, does that mean that the show isnt supportive of people with peanut allergies? No. It just means they werent thinking about that when creating the story. I don't care one bit if they want to put positive poly couples into the show! That would be cute! But like.... these specific characters haven't really shown us that they're okay with that life choice. And theres nothing wrong at all with choosing to be poly! That is totally up to the people in those relationships and if they're all super happy then its a happy day for everyone and a win-win situation. My issue ONLY comes from people attempting to persuade, peer pressure, coerce, recruit, solicit, and talk me INTO their lifestyle choices. Like... if I'm INTERESTED then thats okay! If I'm CURIOUS thats okay. But UNSOLICITED "Hey you GOTTA try this! In fact EVERYONE SHOULD!" is where I draw a thick line. No. And thats OKAY! it is OKAY for people to be monogamous! In the same way its OKAY for people to be poly. Blitzø got insanely jealous last episode over Stolas sleeping around. His character AS it is currently written is NOT okay with sharing. And people are ALLOWED to feel that way. It hurts to watch and its heartbreaking and sad. But this is the story as it currently stands. I would very much raise my eyebrows if they decided to all become a poly couple because.... it just doesnt MATCH the previous feelings we were already shown. And I dont think FORCING other people into it just because YOU like it or its something YOU want is the most selfless of actions. Thats just how it comes across in my personal opinion. A little selfish. A little dense. A little, "I'm not really paying attention to your feelings or anything you said." Like... Did you just ignore the previous fights they had were Blitz specifically called Stolas a whole and the community cloaca?.... Thats not a poly attitude. Or if it is then.... thats.... that just sounds very strange to me. A bit hypocritical. Again, I'm not saying that people cant change their minds! They can! But in THIS specific case, thats not what we were shown and its not how the characters were written. They were written to potentially BE a monogamous couple. But we can all make poly fan art of them! THAT is positive rep! IMHO. Sorry for going off a bit but your comment really irked me and rubbed me the wrong way because it felt like... you didnt even watch or pay attention to the show. You just want people to agree with you blindly and without criticism or push back. So... sorry for pushing back. But you're a little off the mark right now.

Max

I'm taking about the dinner lol

Suplee215

Growth can be messy and go back and forth. Rarely do people learn a lesson once and thats it We also don't know what Stolas has planned and Viasago did help a lot tonight ad meant somthing. If he just said no and never talked to him about it thatll be just like he did to Blitz.

Cherry

I have a theory idk if someone has mentioned but in mission zero we see the villains they have faced but there is one particularly that we can’t see and I found this image form google where they light in the image and it looks like a bird almost like a owl what if that is Stolas mother and She’s actually a villain or something or maybe she’s gonna be like the final villain they’re gonna face. I don’t know. It’s just a theory but I don’t know if somebody mentioned this before.

Cherry

Btw you mention the locket and what if Stolas mother is in it so that why I mentioned it

Martin E Melcher

Emotionally, I think Vassago would be good with Stolas. Physically, however, i dont know it hed be able to meet Stolas's needs as I can guess that Vassago may want to be gentle with Stolas and not comfortable with the more violent aspects of Stolas's desire

Cameron

Stella is a victim moreso than stolas, stolas got an education and a job. Meanwhile all Stella’ job is is being an incubator and nothing else, stolas even says “how did I know you can read?” And she also says “I have trouble with numbers I’ve told you that” meaning stolas got education while Stella didn’t.

Phoenix_mercury

Wow that's a ramble. Firstly what's with the random caps words? Secondly did you completely miss "blitzø and stolas doing work on themselves"? No, obviously currently poly is out of the question, blitzø at minimum isn't anywhere near able to consider such. Secondly, so since we've never been shown currently that they'd be ok with it that automatically means they'd absolutely be completely and entirely against it forever? Ngl this feels highly anti-poly just from how staunchly you came at a two point comment with such rigidity. Which is incredibly gross as someone that is poly, and no when I was younger I never thought poly would be for me, I've only had more than one partner for about 3 years now. I literally just said that it'd be cool for this show to go in that direction, but the possibility would only be there after the pair of characters having relationship issues have done some work on themselves. Sorry but I'm not entertaining such negativity and I am blocking you, it's not personal I'm just not dealing with such 😊(image included of my current relationship dynamic in a second message btw)

Phoenix_mercury

Also stolas's "I'm ready" wasn't said towards Vas, he deleted the app then looked straight ahead(Vas to his side)

UrfrndHusker

I apologize for triggering u at all, im sorry u were in that situation, and thank you for agreeing with me, most of my issue with Stolas is that he is even just entertaining Vasago's dinner invitation let alone just blowing Blitzø off to catch up with an old flame either way hes stuck in between but im sorry to say if he were going to choose he'd probably choose Vasago over Blitzø, and it would be hard to watch Blitzø let go but still I love this show and I dont entirely hate Stolas its just the writing is so good that im displeased with his actions and im here for it

Phoenix_mercury

You can have trouble with numbers even with an education, you do know that right?

Cameron

But they aren’t just old friends though lmfao, they are old flames. Vassago was flirting with stolas when he said “i love the way you smile” a direct quote from the song between them as teens. Thats why vassago asks if stolas caught that part and stolas gets flustered and looks away with a coy smile saying “yes I did..”, they r aren’t just friends lol

Phoenix_mercury

"she didn't get any education"? What ep does her backstory show this? We don't have a ton of info on her(not that I'm actually complaining) but theirs no evidence at all of this, "which is why she can't read properly and is bad with numbers", you do realise this comes across as bad with reading/numbers = uneducated, right? Which, obviously, isn't true

Phoenix_mercury

Fr, he saw "this is important to him" twice and was on that shit, he came for one item and bought 2(spending a shit ton in the process) and saved an imp from getting into shit(or hurt) because stolas cared, they're old classmates and friends (no, like blitzø and stolas they're not exes either, they had a fling at most) they're allowed to want to catch up after not seeing eachother for who knows how long

Max

I never said they are just friends, I just meant that it's just a dinner and they haven't seen each other in so long. Besides Vassago waited for so long and saved their asses, I think going to a dinner is alright, I feel lik Stolas is going to chose Blitz during or after that anyway

Phoenix_mercury

Yeah, after this? I love both, my solution(only once blitzø and stolas are in better places, individually and together) is throuple

missy

I'm HOPING Vassago is going to be a vehicle for Stolas to be put into Blitz' shoes, and not actually a love triangle. Now that he has no power, no money and everyone looks down on him, he is basically on the same level as Blitz was and might feel what he felt now with Vassago? Stolas seems to be incapable of putting himself in other people's shoes so now that he's forced into them, maybe it will finally open his eyes? PLUS HE IS IMMORTAL, he can have both of them technically, just at different times. WHO KNOWS, I'm scared poor Blitz😭

Phoenix_mercury

Exactly, its been years since they've seen each other, they're allowed to want to catch up. Theirs probably a lot of stuff they want to discuss and work out after everything, stolas can easily get back home, and with his mind cleared and not thinking about what happened, thank blitzø properly and do something with him(they could literally spend the rest of the night watching movies, maybe stolas even offers the horse one he knows blitzø likes, seeing as they literally live together) while telling him what was talked about, communicating properly and making sure blitzø doesn't feel like he's hiding things from him, I don't get why everyone's jumping immediately to "stolas going to dinner with his old classmate, friend and teenage fling means its automatically a date and something is going to happen"

Moba_hh

The writing genuinely will have tanked so bad in my opinion if stolas says yes to having dinner with vassago bc why was episode 3 a thing ep 3 was such an important episode to have the best this season im predicting bc it addressed all the issues so we could move forward so if we take 5 steps back after that episode it would be so disappointing :(

Kay

Vassago is what all the Stolitz haters who favor Stolas (and usually dislike Blitz) have been asking for. "Stolas deserves to know what a healthy relationship is! he deserves better than Blitz!'.... I've seen that argument so much and for so long. Well, here it is lol. Vassago will be wonderful; he'll treat Stolas amazingly. I foresee no twist where he's a bad guy or breaks Stolas's heart. By the end of the season, Blitz will even begrudgingly agree. He wants Stolas to be happy. I think Blitz will tell Stolas that Vassago is who he deserves....and when Stolas replies with, 'You don't get to decide what I deserve'... those Stolitz haters are gonna be so pissed off.

Shay

I have some many different theories about the locket, it's the only item that Andy's ice melted off of

Crookie

I found it kinda cool that’s it either because Blitz is finally being mature or that he was just so angry that his text to Stolas was actually spelled correctly

Vince

I think Vassago is going to be an ally for us in the end, but I also think his dinner with Stolas is going to be one of the things that shows Stolas that he’s not meant to be a Goetia, he’s right where he belongs. With his real family. Just gotta get Via back :)

Bunni

One thing I have to disagree with, season two didn’t end on a good note for them. It did for Blitzø because Stolas, a person he now loves, sacrificed everything to save him but to Stolas it didn’t end well at all; like he said in the previous episode, feels a huge amount of guilt for throwing away his daughter, who he said he cherish more than anyone else in the heat of the moment. And how that last episode ended with that scene in mind, they do not have a good headspace to even start dating, I mean personally I wouldn’t want to date someone who called me a whore and been nasty to me and the same with seeing someone who I thought maybe we had a thing going on sleeping with other people without communicating. They need to literally start from the ground up with trust and communication!! This is, in my opinion a good start. Stolas told Blitzø he is going for dinner and Blitzø is saying “okay! I am giving you the space!” They’re improving and that’s all I can ask for but I wouldn’t be mad if they went their separate ways. It’s why I am not a big fan of “will they, won’t they” tropes it get dragged out. I see their relationship like Ross and Rachel in friends 🤣

Vince

This is my thought. At dinner he’s gonna lay it out for Vassago, that he is appreciative and it really is incredible to see him again but he’s got Blitzø and he’s ready to start working on himself so they can actually be together. I also think Vassago is gonna be a connection to Via for Stolas.

UrfrndHusker

U gotta give Blitz the benefit of the doubt he feels like he failed getting one thing for Stolas and that now hes getting pushed aside for someone else but hes hiding his feelings behind a smiley face

Hayley Rohrbacher

I sadly think many misread the last episode....Yes Stolas and Biltz had a nice moment at the end of their conversation. But it didn't end with them getting together. It was more so Hey I do love and care for you, and I want you in my life. However Stolas has fully laid it out for Blitz that he can't be in a relationship with Blitz after everything. And I personally don't see that changing until his relationship with Via gets mended. Also they're still sadly in a power dynamic ONCE again...roles are just reversed. With Stolas working under and living with Blitz. In my personal opinion both Stolas and Biltz need to grow and mature more, outside of being in a relationship with each other. Before they ever can be together. I'm sorry one conversation where they now understand each others stances doesn't miraculously fix everything. Blitz doing something nice, doesn't fix everything. Which is why I think Vassago would be good for Stolas. I think it gives him a chance to experience that love and relationship he has been wanting, without the relationship being so heavily tainted. It would also give him a chance to spread his wings and grow. Also who knows they might not get together....although I wouldn't be oppose to it. Especially with how much I ADORE Vassago, he's such a good boy.

Elena plionis

Your reaction was exactly my reaction, ‘Stolas…NO!’ This show is giving me emotional whiplash 😭

Gabi (edited)

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2026-10-29 22:00 I totally get the frustration, but you have to look at it from Stolas' perspective! While he said yes, it wasn’t just a simple agreement—it was the start of a new path and a chance to embrace his first love, at least for now, because we all know Stolitz is endgame. I was confused at first, but rewatching the episode made me realize it’s a symbolic sign for him to finally become who he wants to be. Ultimately, this growth is good for both Stolas and Blitz; even though it’s tough, they both have a lot of maturing to do, just like Brandon when mentioned Blitz during in one of the panels in the past. It’s ironic how we used to dislike Blitz and now love him—With Stolas in S3, we're seeing some hate or dislike while the series is still running, at least for now though. This is just part one of S3 in Stolas' journey. We have to trust the process because by the time S4 comes around, we’re going to see his progress and fall in love with his character all over again. I resonate so much with the relationship between Stolas and Octavia because it reminds me of my own bond with a family member, and it gives me so much hope that things will get better for Stolas and his arc, as well with Blitz. Just remember: all good things come to those who wait, because at the end it'll be worth it. #Stolas #Blitz #HelluvaBoss #Growth #CharacterDevelopment #Process #Endgame 🦉✨🦎
2026-10-24 19:23 I totally get the frustration, but you have to look at it from Stolas' perspective! While he said yes, it wasn’t just a simple agreement—it was the start of a new path and a chance to embrace his first love, at least for now, because we all know Stolitz is endgame. I was confused at first, but rewatching the episode made me realize it’s a symbolic sign for him to finally become who he wants to be. Ultimately, this growth is good for both Stolas and Blitz; even though it’s tough, they both have a lot of maturing to do, just like Brandon when he mentioned Blitz during in one of the panels in the past. It’s ironic how we used to dislike Blitz and now love him—With Stolas in S3, we're seeing some hate or dislike while the series is still running, at least for now though. This is just part one of S3 in Stolas' journey. We have to trust the process because by the time S4 comes around, we’re going to see his progress and fall in love with his character all over again. I resonate so much with the relationship between Stolas and Octavia because it reminds me of my own bond with a family member, and it gives me so much hope that things will get better for Stolas and his arc, as well with Blitz. Just remember: all good things come to those who wait, because at the end it'll be worth it. #Stolas #Blitz #HelluvaBoss #Growth #CharacterDevelopment #Process #Endgame 🦉✨🦎

I totally get the frustration, but you have to look at it from Stolas' perspective! While he said yes, it wasn’t just a simple agreement—it was the start of a new path and a chance to embrace his first love, at least for now, because we all know Stolitz is endgame. I was confused at first, but rewatching the episode made me realize it’s a symbolic sign for him to finally become who he wants to be. Ultimately, this growth is good for both Stolas and Blitz; even though it’s tough, they both have a lot of maturing to do, just like Brandon when he mentioned Blitz during in one of the panels in the past. It’s ironic how we used to dislike Blitz and now love him—With Stolas in S3, we're seeing some hate or dislike while the series is still running, at least for now though. This is just part one of S3 in Stolas' journey. We have to trust the process because by the time S4 comes around, we’re going to see his progress and fall in love with his character all over again. I resonate so much with the relationship between Stolas and Octavia because it reminds me of my own bond with a family member, and it gives me so much hope that things will get better for Stolas and his arc, as well with Blitz. Just remember: all good things come to those who wait, because at the end it'll be worth it. #Stolas #Blitz #HelluvaBoss #Growth #CharacterDevelopment #Process #Endgame 🦉✨🦎

Donovan Taylor

Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of the love triangle trope. I really hoped that Vassago would be introduced as just a friend. But hey, we still have part 2 and other seasons so we’ll see. Maybe they won’t lean too heavily on it for long.

Matthew Paul

How dare Viv gives us hope at the end of episode 4 just to do this?? She wasn't kidding, this season would be a roller-coaster

Gabi

We also have to remember that each character has an arc and we have to trust the process because we all know Stolitz will be endgame, so let’s enjoy seeing how they’ll do it without questioning everything; that’s what’s so fun about watching this series, because while it’s about the adventure and the relationships they’ll have together, it’s really all about that character development!

Lil Ferret

I definitely think that the ending is a mis-direct for the sake of drama and Stolas is just going to make everything clear to Vassago so they can stay on good terms at that dinner, but it's not going to lead to anything. Regardless, that was a very shitty way to go about doing it even if that is the case. He could have very easily scheduled a later date and then explained his plan to Blitzo so that he wouldn't get the wrong impression and show him gratitude for his effort. Boom, no issues. This bird has the emotional intelligence of a wet cat. This is honestly one of the shittiest things Stolas has done, I would not blame Blitzo if he just straight up cut him out of his life after that. (even though Ik that's not going to happen because they're endgame *sigh*) Vassago quickly shot up my character list this ep tho, goated behavior.

Lil Ferret (edited)

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2026-10-26 05:00 This, all of this. I've been saying this whole season that if the problem is his guilt with Octavia, then the FIRST thing he should do is try to go fix that relationship. And I say first because there is a laundry list of things they both need to work on by themselves before they even think about getting into a relationship. Or else it's just going to be a constant back and forth of "okay we're good, oh no one of them hurt the other, cue series of events, reconciliation again. Then hurt again, and compromise again." Until it eventually boils over. This is very toxic. And I honestly just can't bring myself to ship them because of it.
2026-10-24 19:46 This, all of this. I've been saying this whole season that if the problem is his guilt with Octavia, then the FIRST thing he should do is try to go fix that relationship. And I say first because there is a laundry list of things they both need to work on by themselves before they even think about getting into a romantic relationship. Or else it's just going to be a constant back and forth of "okay we're good, oh no one of them hurt the other, cue series of events, reconciliation again. Then hurt again, and compromise again." Until it eventually boils over. This is very toxic. And I honestly just can't bring myself to ship them because of it.

This, all of this. I've been saying this whole season that if the problem is his guilt with Octavia, then the FIRST thing he should do is try to go fix that relationship. And I say first because there is a laundry list of things they both need to work on by themselves before they even think about getting into a romantic relationship. Or else it's just going to be a constant back and forth of "okay we're good, oh no one of them hurt the other, cue series of events, reconciliation again. Then hurt again, and compromise again." Until it eventually boils over. This is very toxic. And I honestly just can't bring myself to ship them because of it.

Hayley Rohrbacher

!00% Also another thing I don't see people taking into account...is the two of them also ready need to get to know each other. Because I'm sorry they both know next to nothing of the other...Everyone likes to stay "oh they're childhood friends" when they're really not. Stolas might think so. But us as an audience knows better. They only knew each other for a night as kids. Than only reconnected many years later due to a damn book. But they knew next to nothing about each other. Despite having sex together. This is also something they need to work on as well after a lot of other shit gets address and worked on first.

Soul Reaper

at end of trial ep it was clear stolas and blitz were not going be together for a while cuz of stolas guilt but I think the combination of his daughter being 18 soon (free)and healthy relationship with vassago will heal that guilt ending up with sweet but short relationship with him leading into the finally together moment with blitz

Willow 404

You know how in episode 3 you were saying "I'm too demisexual for this" regarding Stolas hooking up with strangers? Well now I'm saying that I'm too polyamorous for this. The three of them should just date each other ffs

Jexz

I feel for blitz, and Stolas does have problems. But for character growth and such, i do believe it's important that the charcaters get to grow on their own without the regard of "Will they, won't they" and thei effection they have for one another. The best representation to help explain what i'm trying to say is the yuri manga "How Do We Relationship". It's realistic and angsty, but represents growth and maturing after hard times. While it's disappointing that it's not going to be now, Stolitz is endgame by confirmation. i do think that it's best they get to find themselves without revolving /involving what they do around the other person, especailly Blitzo. While he doesn't have to let go of stoliz, he needs to learn it it's like to heal without the motivations of pleasing stolitz or getting closer to being with him. They both need to find themselves and grow into better, more mature and new people. Learn better things. Even though it would be away from each other, they would be growig to be healthier people for each other later, then they could re-learn the new them and start again from there.

Ryan

Plot twist - what if Roo is in the locket?

DKscribe88

I'm a little concerned about Vassago and his approach to coming back into Stolas' life. He came in during one of the lowest points of Stolas' life, where his ex is selling all of his posessions just to twist the knife in deeper. And then Vassago bought things that he knew were important to Stolas, which seems like a knight in shining armor moment, but this is also a tactic that people who are controlling use to create a sense of indebtedness, causing the victim to feel like they owe it to the person to stay with them. I like Vassago, and we did see how amazing he was towards Stolas in the past, but we have no idea how the years might have changed him. We think he's doing it just to rekindle his past romance, but I just know this show has a habit of doing twists and throwing us for a loop. So I hope it doesn't go down the way I'm worried it will. And no, this is not me projecting a past experience on this. I am fortunate to not have gone through anything like that. But I have worked with others who have been in abusive relationships. It just feels a little sus, is all.

Yaboiroshi

Blitz was a childhood friend.

Yaboiroshi

I like vasaggo and stolas together. So far it feels like a healthier relationship

Valerie E

My theory is Stolas never loved Vassago. Had a crush and thought he was hot sure. But, the whole duet they sing kind of reveals Stolas's True feelings. Vassago is telling him he is ready instead of asking him if he is ready. Every time Stolas sings it's about losing himself in Vassago's song or focusing on his duties. Meanwhile for contrast Stolas is ready to break all the rules for blitz and turn his back on his duties. When Stolas and Blitz get their short duet in Mastermind they both sing only about their love for each other. You're my light, You're my Heart, Only Death can rend our love apart. While things have been really rocky for Stolas and Blitz's Relationship. They both have made major mistakes of course, Blitz is the polar opposite of Vassago. Blitz doesn't expect Stolas to abandon everything for him at any point ever. Blitz doesn't offer him mythical island paradises. Blitz offers him a job, a place to sleep, and isn't telling him everything is all okay when it isn't. When Blitz isnt self destructing and being an ass, he is supportive of Stolas finding his own way in the world. This is a very realistic love between two people in the lower classes of society. I don't think Vassago is evil. But, he is rich and one of the most powerful of Goetia, so he has always gotten everything he has ever desired. Stolas on the other hand has pretty much from day one hated the system he was born into. Blitz was an immediate compliment to those feelings. Blitz didn't make jokes like the other clowns, blitz didn't play like the other kids his age, blitz as an adult has not let his class define him or hold him down. Stolas doesn't want to be a trapped bird in an ornate cage. He wants to find his own song and someone like blitz to carry the tune with him through life. That includes all the changes that come throughout life. Blitz has consistently changed in the couple years Stolas has known him, and keeps changing. Stolas has also changed drastically, even if it doesnt seem that way on the surface. He has friends now, loves working a job, and is finally allowing himself to be more vulnerable to Blitz about his feelings. Meanwhile, Vassago hasnt changed a bit in 20 years, just the same teenager that wants to run off for a unrealistic romantic fantasy. I say this with no malice, and the show may prove everything I said wrong in the next episodes. I hope Vassago finds someone who can return his loving embraces, and wants to be carried by his songs. I just dont think that person is Stolas.

GlitchedLetters

I honestly feel a little bad for Stella, she's clearly a victim of emotional incest from her brother. And whether that's agreed on or not, he obviously has some gross, unnecessary need for control over the women in his life. I admit, she didn't need to be so loud and pushy towards Stolas during the flashback, but people have mentioned she said "our wedding" when talking about the colors, so she was thinking with him in mind and trying to function as a couple (which they are literally not compatible). The fact that her brother chose Cyan as one of the colors, if not the main color, is extremely screwed up. If its meant to be her and Stolas, i believe the wedding would have been pink + red or pink + black, but was cyan instead, unless they managed to keep it the color she wanted. He clearly wants to be in charge and treats her like a child, and isn't afraid to take control over Via's life until she is also married. I'm hoping, with Stella going against her brother during the auction and because her own past of being forced into marriage and carrying a child, she may end up stopping Via's potential marriage in this season (since people are theorizing that's what's being built up to). I'm not expecting her to have any redemption, but i do think she's capable of changing, just like Stolas.

blerper

i feel like stolas is only going on that dinner to catch up and thank him, Because let's not forget Vassago just paid 100 Million(or whatever) for his locket, but i don't think he's going to fall in love with him again. he placed his hand in Vassago's, But that's all. compared to last episode where he held blitz's hand tenderly.

Sarah H

Yeah, but they were only friends for a day. Stolas' father paid Blitz's father to have Blitz over for a playdate for one day. They played together, bonded, had that moment at the tree, and Blitz robbed them during the pirate game because that was his father's angle. They didn't see each other again until Blitz came to steal the book as an adult.

Sarah H

I'm not getting bad guy vibes from Vassago, but it is odd that he only appears now when Stolas was banished and has been living with Blitz for at most 2 months now; he knew what situation Stolas was in, he knew he was ''free'' of his duties, Vassago could have reached out sooner, but he didn't. Why wait until the auction and until he had the journal with the message he wrote to reach out finally? It was convenient for him that Stolas just happened to be at the auction, but what would his plan have been if Stolas wasn't there? Hold on to the journal and not reach out and have it as a keepsake? Seek Stolas out? And I get staying away for 20 years after the rejection, and Stolas carrying out his duties to the family and his work, but could he really not have reached out sooner once everything fell apart? Obviously, the writers may not have included him sooner just for the heck of it. So there would be this moment of angst or betrayal when Blitz and Stolas had finally reached some middle ground of being civil and growing. Still, I'm interested to see how we'll get to see him fleshed out a bit more and know whether his motives are pure and romantic or something else.

Jared Bichler

"This isn't going horribly so far." And... Cue Stella!

Jared Bichler

And just when the relationship was out of the woods, we took a detour through the jungle!

Christopher Herrera

So even though she brings up the last episode she seems to forget that blitzo acknowledged that they may not be together now and that he will be mature about things

Jared Bichler

I think the crimson skies backgrounds were meant to represent the beautiful picture Vassago was painting.

Jared Bichler

Mortimer was more of a father to Stolas.

Jared Bichler

Vassago doesn't know about Blitz, so this one is solely on Stolas.

Jared Bichler

Honestly, I think Vassago deserves better than Stolas. I love Stolas but...

Sirenityy2u

Idk if it'll just be me, but I dont want Stolas and Blitz to be together. Something about it is toxic. Could they get along? Yea. This slow burn feels tense though, and clearly there's still not enough proper communication; especially to Blitz. Could just be me.

KriszGamer00

Vassago: "I'm ready when you are." Stolas: "I'm ready." ...🤲

KriszGamer00

Somehow he didn't feel any guilt leaving Blitz behind after Blitz declared in the last episode "I'm willing to give it a shot."

Paw-Paw

The second Stolas said the locket was his mothers Vassago locked in so fast

Lil Ferret

Yes! The fact that Stolas had to tell Blitzo about his plants and how much he loves Botany and gardening just shows how little they actually know each other. How can they be lovers at this point if they’re barely friends?

Candypie Travels

he ready for blitz or he ready to see via thats all I'm a say

Phoenix_mercury

Vas offers a luxury fantasy while blitzø offers simple domesticity, an run away with me Vs a movie on the sofa with take out...👀

Phoenix_mercury

Maybe he wasn't planning on reaching back out, maybe he just saw the journal on the auction page and knew he needed to get it back then when he saw stolas at the auction stepped in when Stella started up🤷

Phoenix_mercury

Does it *really* count id you spend a day with someone then only reconnect again 20(iirc) years later?

Kev Rink

Not only was Blitzø mature about it, but he actually spelled every word correctly!

Cody Schultz

I think a lot of people are overlooking a line Stolas said that changes the dynamic of this episode in my opinion: "Are you ready?" "No, but I suppose I must be, for Via." Stolas I don't think realizes this heist was a romantic gesture for him by Blitz, he was only thinking about his daughter and in the end Visago is the one who spent one hundred million to secure the necklace. Of course he at least owes him dinner.

Lunar Blitz

Heres the thing... i am not dismissing how blitz feels AT ALL. his anger here is 100% justified.... HOWEVER, as someone who was in an abusive household growing up, when youre finally free and getting over the depression that the whole thing caused... you have this realization that you are...actually free... your life is not the same anymore, the things that held you back from experiencing certain things is no longer a factor. theyre gone. as angry as i would be in blitz position, i cant help but understand that stolace NEEDS this. he kinda owes it to himself to experience this. otherwise it could come back and eat him up inside, "what could have been" yk? especially since stolace and blitz JUST said "although we cant be with eachother right now". its like going on a break with someone right? boundaries and terms need to be set for said break, which didnt happen here, but alot of breaks involve seeing other people with the promise of talking about continuing the relationship after said break. thats how i see it here. just with more lack of communication.

Xýliandra

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. I just read through all that. Applause👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. You have Fantastic points!!

Xýliandra

33:23 "OH! WE'RE GETTING A SPANISH SONG?!" YES🤩🤩!!! Thank the Helluva team for putting in the subtitles for Vassago's part, cause I would Not be able to follow along. Out of All the words, I know: La Luna, Mi Amore, (and) Encanta to sunrisa. The rest of the song, I have no clue😅 43:23 Stolas: "It was my mother's!" That's All Vassago needed to hear! He locked TF IN!! Vas was like "Money, is Not an Issue! I am getting that necklace!" 50:11-50:57 Totally with you Elijah! I hope Stolas just wants to catch up with Vassago, and that it doesn't lead to anything romantic! I want them to be friends, and nothing more. Cause, Hello, Blitz has jumped through hoops for you Stolas. When is He gonna get something good outta this?! I hope this weeks episodes heals me, cause I'm getting tired of this back and fourth Shit with Stolitz. I am a Ride or Die Stolitz shipper, But I'm getting tired of only getting crumbs of goodness and loads of angst and anger! "I'M TIRED OF THIS GRANDPA!!" If they are making Vas a love interest for Stolas, I at least hope they become a polyamorous relationship with Blitz as part of that! If you want me to ship Vas with Stols, you bet your ass, I'm gonna bring Blitz into that ship as well!!

Anri Wickers

it’s limitlessly frustrating that viv keeps doing this with stolas

Jittercritter

Something I haven’t seen a lot of people pointing out is how both of Stolas’ first friendships quickly turned into crushes. Given the fact that he didn’t have any other friends and never saw a healthy romantic relationship growing up it’s entirely possible he just doesn’t know how to differentiate platonic affection from romantic or sexual attraction. Notice how his closest friends in IMP are the women? He doesn’t have to fear getting confused with them.

Leon Lesser

To be fair, Vassago has been a much healthier partner to Stolas than Blitz ever has. But yeah I'm sure this won't be anything permanent.

fluffqueen91

Like others have said, it's important to remember that in the last episode, Stolas specifically said that he doesn't know if he and Blitz can come back from The Everything. They're on pretty good terms again, yes, but Blitz himself is the one who said the words "even if we can't be together right now". Stolas has a lot to work through! I absolutely understand and empathize with how it makes Blitz feel, and it is admittedly a bit insensitive to go on a date with someone else after such a big gesture from Blitz, but Stolas plainly stated that (at least for now) he can't pursue the relationship that he's "tainted" with his selfish actions. I don't think Stolas and Vassago will last long, especially since I get the vibe that Vassago hasn't grown in some of the important ways Stolas has. They'll probably have some key differences (especially in regards to upper class mentality), but I do hope they remain friends afterward. Stolas deserves to explore what might have been and to have a relationship based on mutual affection rather than what he was doing with the "punish me for being selfish" partners. I 'm sure he'll have that with Blitz one day, but they're not ready yet! If Stolas ignored his feelings of guilt and tried to properly be with Blitz right now, I don't think the relationship would work out well, and it could rip them apart so that they couldn't be together even as friends.

Black Fire

I have a feeling though that this thing between Stolas and Vassago is going to sour. I get the feeling that despite how charming he is, he's still a Goitic prince. With the way he treated Blitzø I get the feeling that despite not being as bad, he's till going to look down on imps which will cause Stolas to fall out of love with him in order to defend Blitzø, Moxxie and Millie. I assume Vassago will invite Stolas to stay with him. Or what if Via and Vassago dont get along

Mira Krantz

All of this!! 👏👏👏

Mira Krantz

All of this too!! 👏👏👏

Tristan Haller

Stolas certainly should have, at the very least, scheduled the dinner for another day and gone home with Blitzo tonight, but for what it's worth, I think the text he sent was genuine and heartfelt, and *was* growth in him making sure to check in. Just like it was growth from Blitzo to recognize that he can be privately pissed off and hurt by that choice, but doesn't get to make his hurt feelings Stolas' responsibility to manage. I think the arc here is that Stolas now has the opportunity to both experience a healthy and stable relationship so he can have some grounding in the future, and an opportunity to put some of his guilt behind him and repair his relationship with Via--neither of which he can really do with Blitzo, through no fault of Blitzo's own. And when he realizes he still truly wants Blitzo, he'll be able to go back to him the 'right' way and with better communication skills.

OnTheSpectrum7342

I put a similar comment on Mosco's reaction, but I'm conflicted because I feel bad for Blitzø, but happy for Stolas. But, I'm willing to see where the storyline takes us when S3 returns in 2027.

Bailey

I'm so conflicted on this because on the one hand, Vassago has been a genuinely great character. Even with just 1 episode of major screentime (keyword "major") and he has genuinely great chemistry with Stolas. But on the other hand, yeah, we all know what I'm thinking. But I think it would be best for Blitzo and Stolas to take some time as just friends while they figure their shit out. It was shitty of Stolas to just go for the dinner right away, but idk. I think in the end he and Blitzo will improve their situations and themselves. And since imps apparently don't live forever while Goetia and high demons do, I think a compromise would be for Stolas and Blitzo to be together until Blitzo passes away, then Vassago and Stolas can be together for the rest of eternity. Also I absolutely love how many of the Goetias are actually ones from the grimoire they originated from irl. Stolas, Paimon, Vassago, Andrealphus, Barbatos, and Sitris (the cat guy) are all based on ones mentioned in The Lesser Key of Solomon, and they're actually pretty accurate in terms of their powers and what they do. For instance, Stolas IS all about astronomy, herbs, and is considered to be one of the most trustworthy demons in the Goetia. He's also described as a pacifist. So the Stolas in this show actually fits that. Their ranks are accurate too. Andrealphus is a Marquis, Stolas and Vassago are Princes, Paimon is a King, etx. I hope we see some of the other more famous ones at some point like Belial, Bael, and others. Also fun fact, Asmodeus is also a King of the Ars Goetia, in addition to being one of the Seven Deadly Sins from some other apocryphal texts.

Gianmi98

I get your reaction to Stolas accepting Vassago's invite, but regardless of the conversation Blitz and Stolas had, they still agreed they wouldn't be together yet, because Stolas couldn't bear the guilt and the shame he would feel by being with Blitz, and he also doesn't want that to ruin the relationship for Blitz.