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Not going to lie, having a rough time of things lately. I'll keep this post short and focus on one important item of business, then an update on TLS development.

Some of you may be aware that Patreon updated its policies on adult games and is temporarily taking down many pages based on unclear criteria. Though I have not gotten hit yet, it's not a great environment for work and I've had to spend time keeping up with the news and trying to comply with the new rules. If I am taken down, expect more information at my blog or the wiki:

http://the-last-sovereign.blogspot.com/http://thelastsovereign.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Sovereign_Wiki

This is probably not the best place to comment on the changes, especially since many things are still ambiguous. Just rest assured that I'll be monitoring the news and taking any steps I can to avoid problems.

Anyway! That aside, let me talk about something I'm working on. For the last two chapters of the game, you'll have access to a home base that you can improve and customize. After gathering information from backers, I've divided the base choices you can make into three categories:

1) Expansions - Rooms or wings will start out empty and you have the option to build something, usually inspired by a harem member.

2) Plot Trophies - As you advance in the story, elements of the base will change. Expect these to be character notes or plot related, so you won't see much about them for now.

3) Design Choices - Purely cosmetic alterations to the base.

Since you will see only some of the first and none of the second in the coming update, I want to focus on the third for this post. You'll also get a chance to try out all the options in the release as a special preview.

Here is a view from the engine map editor. Each of the little squares represents a customization option of some kind:

That map is the control room of the base, where you can modify many things. Want sexy succubus statues instead of knights? Go interact with them in the left block. Want a particular color of banner? Have 19 choices to the right. The top squares you can't see are different thrones (they'll be visible in gameplay mode). Notably, in the lower right, you can choose your walls/floors/carpets.

All of this is really time-consuming. >.< I'd hire somebody to help with the tedious parts, but unfortunately I'm making so many design decisions in the process that it wouldn't really be feasible. I hope the end result adds some more depth to the game and is enjoyed by everyone, though!

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Lamsey

There's something satisfyingly meta about making a map editor in a map editor. Xzibit would be proud.

EG Douglas

I like this. Hopefully you won't get into any issues, keep us updated if you can and I'm sure many of us would be willing to try and help how we could. I support you because you do quality work, that's something that should be defended.

sierralee

You dawgs better like maps in your maps, because RPG Maker is NOT meant for this. XP

sierralee

Glad you like it! I hope there won't be any issues, the worst part right now is the uncertainty.

Frosty1979

I am pretty sure your game is safe. From what I saw only developers who openly, more or less advertised, that you could rape and have incest, were taken down. You shouldn't have any problems yourself, since you don't advertise with that, and well also play someone in your game who does none of these things, Robin is not blood related. everyone is of adult age and Simon is a caring, non raping main char. :) Concerning the customisable base it sounds great. Like you said it sounds like a lot of work for just one person though.

Decanter

Meanwhile other devs are censoring comments with certain content-related keywords in them because they believe Patreon might be using bots to scan for them.

Badger66

Yep, based on what I have read, they are going after the "big 5" (loli/underage, bestiality, rape, necro, & incest), and that is page advertisement not in game content. Either way, you should have nothing to worry about since your games include none of those fetishes.

sierralee

It's difficult to filter through everything that's being said about this, but based on info received directly from devs who have gone down and come back, it seems like main pages are most important and that some automation is in play. Most notably, there was one dev whose page emphasized it did NOT contain any of the major elements and they got taken down in the initial set. Hopefully I will be done with the majority of the work on the base soon. It may be rough, but hopefully the heavy lifting will be complete. Then I can show all you guys and refine from there.

Sower of Systems

The base customization looks great! This is exactly the sort of extra feature that I wish was in many bigger titles. I think you're going about it in exactly the right way. Fallout has its base now but it's that effect of the story on that base that makes it really feel like yours. I think the balance of story/character/personal changes to the base is the perfect way to go about it.

Frosty1979

Also concerning the base. I loved the Suikoden games. One reason I liked it so much was the base you got which was inhabitated by all the allies you got. Even side characters had their place in their. Would be cool to have special rooms not just for main party members, but also allies like potentially the Iron Cudgel, your orcs, human military forces, succubi forces etc.

Ferr

There is just one guy how might do that stuff and most of us are willing to pay to fight him (but his dead got to be epic). And if paying for game where you want to kill the bad guy becomes illegal, the games have a problem.

sierralee

There are several pieces of this that are Suikoden-reminiscent, and you can expect to see some side characters right away. Some of them were even introduced long ago for this stage of the game, and there will be a little quest for them!

Bladestorm

That will be amazing, I as well loved Suikoden games and that you have decide to do this and what your saying makes me excited to see it when it comes.

StalkerRoguen

Can you post what artist had their games/pages banned? I am a little concerned about that... Ah, there is something about the game that I wanted to ask (a month ago -.-)... I will do it now before I forget again: Do I gain anything by keepin Political Capital? Because I REALLY don't care about Maranite Artifacts...

Avera

Hmm... that editor is a surprisingly neat solution. I was afraid we would have to go through the base and change every carpet manually. xD I'm mostly looking forward to plot trophies but you seem to have thought the whole base building idea through very well. As for the whole Patreon issue, I can understand you being anxious about it, considering your livelihood depends on it. I'm cautiously optimistic that it won't be that bad, considering how fast they've reinstated the suspended accounts after their "clean up" instead of permanently banning them. Still, it's a pain for you. Hope it goes well. :)

Avera

Well... at least we can be sure now if a bot checks comments, considering you've mentioned all the banned things. :P

StalkerRoguen

Thank you... Actually, it's very reasonable.

SJ99998

It is of utmost importance that the base be located near hot springs! Really though, looking forward to building the pool Yarra talked about in the dark crypt.

sierralee

Haha, I hope it lives up expectations.

sierralee

Haha, changing every object manually would be a huge pain for everyone. Just doing everything this way already required a stupidly large number of switches. I'm cautiously optimistic as well, but I'll be more relaxed once we get more concrete information.

sierralee

Yarra considers this one non-negotiable, so expect to see it! (I couldn't figure out a way to build a pool like I wanted using a reasonable number of events and this map already risks slowing some systems, but I prefer to write it as Yarra being really proactive. =P)

Alan Howard

From what I remember, there were many of us that made suggestions because of our love/nostalgia of suikoden. I was one of the many that suggested something similar, so I am very happy with the design choices on this. Can't wait to see this implemented.

Stijn Van Hove

Silly Patreon. The internet is for porn!

Seil

Well, i do like maps in my maps. Also can i have statues of sexy succubi knights?

Phil

So there will be no trophies for achievements in earlier acts (for example, having the Yhiilin Coup in the Third War just abort because we have so much support, or reaching certain values in the religion/economy/etc trackers)? Pity.

sierralee

Haha, not unless someone makes a sprite for it.

sierralee

Not trophies exactly, but do expect to unlock some customization options based on past results!

Decanter

At that resolution, I'm not sure they'd look different from normal knight statues. Not like a succuknight would want to stick her wings out the back of the armor or anything.

Decanter

It's good that Patreon has competition, but I do question the sense in branding such a platform as a combination of "Patreon" and "hat". And that's assuming it's "hat" and not "hate", which given the phonemes in the word it's playing off... Regardless, so long as it's legit, I suppose there's no solid reason a creator can't use both, diversifying as a precautionary measure. Just makes tracking milestone progress more complicated.

sierralee

Since I would very much like to keep making games for a long time to come, I am interested in diversification and alternatives to Patreon. It may have a strong grip on this niche, but it's never entirely comfortable relying too heavily on a single site. So thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not sure this one is an option for me. To my knowledge, Hatreon is invite-only, and I don't think it's likely I'd be given an invitation.

Avera

Yeah, hatreon is a neo-nazi support site, so even if you would get an invite you'd probably not like the company. @Decanter the name sadly comes from hate, not hat.

Jan Dietrich

@ Avera It seems you know more than me. What is true is, that because of it's liberal framework many creators who you or others may find controversive have changed to hatreon.

Jan Dietrich

@Sierra Lee Regarding invitation: That will most likely change the more popular the site becomes. Originally, hatreon was funded as a sort of refuge for all kinds of content creators, especially political controversial ones, for example Lauren Southern etc. But there are as far as i know no plans to keep it this restricted. As with all commercialised projects, Patreon will most likely become more and more restrictive and eager to clear the site of any sensible content in fear of revenue looses, similar to the process YouTube is undergoing at the moment. Which is, of course, their right as an private enterprise. Anyway, it was meant only as a suggestion to increase your own options in a worst case scenario, Sierra.

Stijn Van Hove

So what if there's a neo nazi or two on there. What matters is whether or not a site supports free speech. You can always choose not to support the ones you don't like.

Jan Dietrich

@Summus Which is a opinion i share with you. It is important to maintain a free market of goods AND opinions.

Whismas

Yeah, Hatreon is a straight-up support site for your various flavors of diet nazi. Despite catering to its unique clientele, for some weird reason they have a really hard time getting funding, to the point where Sierra already makes more on Patreon than like 95% of the featured creators on Hatreon *put together*. Not only do you get to hang out with neo-nazis, you also make next to nothing doing it because very few people want to a join a site built to fund nazis. You can hold out and see if someone makes a FreeSpeecheon or whatever, but then you've still got to see if it can get a big enough of a base going that it doesn't fold like Offbeatr. And can satisfyingly answer the question "why should I give money using this site over Patreon?"

DukeLeto7

"First they came for the diet-Nazis, and I did not speak out—because I was strangely comfortable with it."

Desertopa

I only just joined Patreon entirely for the purpose of supporting your work (and participating in the discussions of it,) so if you're booted from the site, I would be pretty pissed.

sierralee

I hope I'll be fine, as I don't violate any of the rules that have been made known. The problem is the uncertainty that comes with the rules being applied inconsistently and ambiguously. In any case, glad to have you here, thanks for your support!

DukeLeto7

One idea worth considering if Patreon does try to become an onerous "morality cop" is that the US has the First Amendment, the Sherman Anti-Trust Act and the ACLU. It may be possible to convince the latter to organize a pro bono class action lawsuit on behalf of the censored artists even though Patreon is a private firm IF Patreon also has a de facto monopoly on the market for "artistic crowdfunding". Dunno if non-US citizens could participate, but presuming the remedy of relaxing content strictures is cheaper for Patreon than a cash settlement or protracted litigation, it might not matter. Hatreon doesn't look like an organization I would care to do business with, but their customer artists might want to consider that course of action in preference to setting up their own site with blackjack and hookers, because it might be that Patreon has a weak Natural Monopoly on the market precisely because recreating its network is a functional barrier to entry. It's probably not as strong a case of network costs as FB has in the social media space, but if FB can effectively lock Google out of the social media market with network adoption costs despite being (in most respects) a raging dumpster fire of incompetence and mismanagement, then a couple hate speech loving yahoos with no capital backing probably has no chance against Patreon.

Decanter

Other than their partnership with Discord, I'm not sure Patreon has that much in the way of networking effects. As for barriers to entry, the only one I'm aware of is regulatory - you need a significant wad of cash before you're allowed to make a service like this, unless that's changed while I wasn't paying attention.

DukeLeto7

Just in case we're talking past each other, apologies if I'm pompously reteaching what you already know. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect</a> The economic concept here is that a service has value based on the number of people that use it. The classic example is old style telephone lines, although phone line networks also had the more basic barrier to entry that having two in the same place was expensive and pointless, like roads. FB has value because all your "friends" who use FB use it. Even if you wanted to switch to Google Plus, to get the same value out of G+, you'd need to convince all of your friends who use FB to switch as well, and they'd need to convince all of their friends who use FB to switch... and so on. The size of the FB network is an effective barrier to entry barring Google, which has an obscene amount of resources to throw at promoting Google+, from competing effectively with FB in providing the same service. Patreon has a small amount of value from its network of artists, because at least some people come to patronize individual creators as a result of using the "find creators" and "suggested creators" features on the front page. A site competing with it directly wouldn't have that advantage, and if it contains nothing but people who have been booted from Patreon for Hate Speech, their existing network might even be a disadvantage, since creators don't want to be associated with that kind of content. There's also the convenience of listing the source of all of your patronage revenue to potential patrons on one site, because popularity is to some degree an indicator of content quality. Likewise, there's convenience for the creators in only having to configure one site for their patrons. All of this is a lot weaker than FB's network advantage in social media, but it isn't nothing.

Decanter

Oh, I know. I'm saying other than the communities on associated chat rooms (Discord users tend to be weirdly fanatical and status-seeking), I don't know that Patreon's network effect is all that amazing, let alone amazing enough to carry an antitrust case.

DukeLeto7

I think Anti-Trust is based more on practical market share than an analysis of economic advantages. There were two semi-connected thoughts in my original comment. First was that IF Patreon gets too moralistic in its content control, litigation in a US court may be an option so long as it remains a de facto monopoly in its business model. Second was that doing that might be a better option for the people behind Hatreon rather than throwing time and money at trying to compete with Patreon because of the mild network costs, assuming their interest actually is the principled promotion of totally free speech. I wasn't trying to imply that Patreon had that current de facto monopoly BECAUSE of the network costs, it was just the first out of the gate, as it were. My actual preference for the people running Hatreon is that they can douse themselves with gasoline and light a match, but the suggestion that they try litigation instead of direct composition wasn't really concern trolling because I think it actually would have a better chance of working.

FigelNarage

In the hypothetical situation this channel/profile gets banned or suspended where will you retreat? Hreinn's Games if thats hasnt gone under as well i suppose?

sierralee

It depends on when and how. To my knowledge, in this wave of suspensions not a single creator has been permanently banned. Though I am taking steps in case Patreon stops being a viable platform, I personally don't think that's imminent based on their behavior so far. So again, it depends. But the longer things persist, the firmer the foundation beneath me and the more options I'll have.